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Re: Sharing family tree information #general

jbonline1111@...
 

This has been very thoroughly answered with only one exception: identity theft is not limited to living people.  I would not share much about deceased people unless I can verify a relationship because those names can be used for identity theft. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Index of Baghdadi Jewish Surnames -Harasta in Syria #names

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Hi,
There is a book in  Arabic about Harasta published in Damascus in 1988. A copy exists at the National Library in Jerusalem but due to COVID 19 it is closed nowadays.

It was originally a Christian village but through the generations they almost disappeared.

I'll ask on the Damascus Jewish fora on Facebook  to see whether someone knows more. In the meantime I enclose an image of the book cover.

What is your email address?

Jacob Rosen

Jerusalem


Re: "Holy Silence" Documents Vatican's Role in the Holocaust #announcements #holocaust

Jeff at SG
 

We were very frustrated at first because the sound through both my laptop and the TV connection was very muted.  It was impossible to hear anything.  Only when we connected external speakers to my computer did the sound become audible.  
We watched it too. Excellent documentary. The only sound problem we encountered was a slight timing dtiscrepancy between the sound and the image. Not much, 1 second or so, perhaps because of the difference in wifi download speeds.
Highly recommend watching while it is still available. Very illuminating on multiple aspects including Pius XI of whom I knew little, Pacelli's consistent behaviour both before and after becoming Pius XII, and several other important but far less known individuals who played important roles. 

Jeff Malka
https://sephardicgen.com/MalkaFamilyWeb/Malka_family.html
MALKA ,(Spain, Morocco)
GOLDENBERG (Romania, Rosh Pina, Egypt)
ORNSTEIN (Hungary, Philadelphia), GELFAND (Belarus, Philadelphia)
RUDO (Baltimore)


Re: Sharing family tree information #general

mab@...
 

Emily - 

Looking at the article by Jim Tanner, I wonder about the validity of the copyright notice that Ancestry.com puts on the information on its website.  I had always assumed that their copyright notice on the original document did not apply, especially in the case of US Census documents.  However, I had presumed, perhaps incorrectly, that their summary of the information was subject to this limitation.

- Miriam Alexander Baker


Seeking descendants of Samuel Kivivitz and Goldie Bass #belarus

lhcomac@...
 

I've been researching my paternal grandmother, Tema (Rose) Kivovitz Comac from Derevna, Belarus.  She was the daughter of Samuel Kivovitz and Goldie Bass who were also the parents of Irving  and Faigie.  Irving took the name Cannon in the USA.  Faigie married and lived in the state of Washington; can't recall her last name.  Just discovered there was another brother, Hilel Kivovitz (1878-1935).  I knew both Irving and Faigie but never heard a word about Hilel.  Would love to know why.  He was married to Molly Ornstein who used the name Kivo later in life. They had three children-- Seymour, Gertrude and Rose who also used the name Kivo before her marriage to Emanuel Landsburg.  Would appreciate any info about Faigie or Hilel.

Thank you
Linda Comac
lhcomac@...


Re: Citizenship #general #usa

Susan&David
 

Your GM seems to have  reapplied voluntarily, not remembering the past. What does the 1940 census say about her citizenship?

David Rosen
Boston, MA   

On 8/22/2020 3:02 AM, bobmalakoff via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
The 1930 Census appears to show my mother (age 17 at the time) and her parents as naturalized citizens.  What confuses me is a Petition for Naturalization [of a Married Person, under Sec. 310(a) or (b). 322 or 312 of the Nationality Act of 1940 (S4 Stat. 1144-1145] for my grandmother from 1941. (US District Court, Newark NJ)  Upon further reading it states that she was naturalized on May 28, 1924. I don't understand why she had to petition again.
 
Bob Malakoff
Pittsburgh,PA 


Re: need help finding Morris, Sam and Jonas LISS passenger arrival records #belarus #russia

Diane Jacobs
 

That is why the number one rule in genealogy is spelling doesn't count.
I found my grandfather's manifest page
for Glazer listed as Gloetzer.

Always cast a wide net, if you want to find a lot of fishes.

Diane Jacobs



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From: Sherri Bobish <sherribob@...>
Date: 8/19/20 5:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] need help finding Morris, Sam and Jonas LISS passenger arrival records #belarus #russia


Nancy,

I have found individual passenger's names spelled differently on the FamilySearch, Ancestry, and EIDB indices.

Considering how hard it is to read and interpret the handwriting on many of the manifests, it is amazing that we can find any of our ancestors!

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Katzenellenbogen / Ariogala #rabbinic #lithuania

Adam Cherson
 

Hello Jeremy,

First I need to correct a typo in the earlier post: the second potential K'bogen haplogroup is E-M35 (not E-35).

In this situation you want to obtain yDNA from a person(s) who is reasonably certain to be a patriline descendant of R' Chackiel Yankielowicz (by patriline I mean male-to-male with no breaks). The initial screen is the Y37 test at FTDNA. This test will provide a base-level haplogroup which will show whether the person is J-M172, E-M35, or something else entirely. More in depth testing may or may not be warranted depending on what the screen shows. I would also suggest testing more than one such cousin from each available, separate line, to the extent possible, because redundancy of result is strongly persuasive in this field. PLMK if you need any further guidance on testing mechanisms, procedures, and/or logistics.

Cordially,
Adam Cherson


Re: U.S. Appeals Court Rules Spanish Museum May Keep Nazi Looted Art #announcements #holocaust

Adam Cherson
 

First, I thank Professor Lazerow for summarizing the case for those of us with not time to digest another legal document. According to the professor, the case hinges upon whether the buyer showed the "due diligence [in verifying whether the seller had good title] that a reasonable purchaser would have exercised at the time under the circumstances of this purchase." I cannot tell from the summary whether Baron Thyssen-Bornemisza showed reasonable due diligence. All I know from this discussion is that the baron bought the work from a New York Gallery owner in 1976. So what would be reasonable due diligence under these circumstances? Certainly one would want to learn the provenance of the painting (where, when and how did the New York gallery owner get the work?), The next obvious question would be whether the prior owner(s) had good title. Now, I don;t know how much the dealer knew or told the baron about the painting's history, but supposing the baron knew that the Nazi government had been a prior owner, then due diligence, in view of well known and widespread Nazi looting activities, would have involved a determination, perhaps by a lawyer, as to whether the transaction between Lilly Cassirer and the Nazi government was a valid legal contract under German law at the time of that transaction. If it was considered legal under German law for a government official or agency to receive a painting in exchange for securing three exit visas, then there would be no legal issue as to whether succeeding owners could claim a valid title to the work (this would be a question of German law). On the other hand, if the baron had no knowledge of Nazi involvement in the chain of title and could not have reasonably obtained such knowledge, then we have a different case, which would seem to me to be governed by New York law, since the transaction seems to have taken place in New York. In New York State the innocent buyer of stolen property does not become its owner. The buyer would be required to return the property to its rightful owner, and the thieves would owe the innocent buyer the purchase price in restitution. The thieves in this case, if the original transaction was void, would be the successors-in-interest of the Nazi government and possibly other subsequent owners depending on their knowledge of the original theft.

Adam Cherson


Re: Russian Website Jewish Roots #russia #general

Ellen
 

A great idea for a webinar:  how to use the jroots forum to search for your ancestors.  I've browsed the website a few times, but it's not obvious (at least not to me!) how to use it.

Just my 2 cents!

Ellen
--
Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Re: Seeking help to find the marriage and death registrations of my Grand Uncle Dr KAMMER Zsigmond, Budapest dentist. #hungary #records

Judy Petersen
 

One more:

marriage of Lidia SCHWARCZ (parents Salamon SCHWARCZ and Irma FELNER to Jeno Heim RUSSO in Budapest VI in 1919.  This is her first marriage.  She was divorced when she married Zsiga.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTH9-RWF?i=136

              Judy

PS  Beno KAMMER's wife died in 1926 and their daughter Irma married Lajos DURLACHER in Budapest VI in 1916


Re: Seeking help to find the marriage and death registrations of my Grand Uncle Dr KAMMER Zsigmond, Budapest dentist. #hungary #records

Judy Petersen
 

P.S.  Other KAMMER records available on MACSE include:

marriage of Adolf and Fani's daughter Ella to Gyula LOVY in Budapest VI in 1909

marriage of Adolf and Fani's son Vilmos to Janka RINTL in Budapest VI in 1915.

death of Adolf KAMMER in 1912, age 61, son of Simon KAMMER and Jozefin BORTSTIEBER; witness Bernat KAMMER

death of Adolf and Fani's daughter Terezia KAMMER in Budapest VIII in 1942.  Her husband was Arnold SPITZER.  witness was Karoly SCHWARCZ.

death of Adolf and Fani's daughter Gabriella KAMMER in Budapest V in 1945; wife of Gyula LOWY

Vilmos KAMMER's death in Budapest VII in May of 1945; married to Janka KRINBEL (either a corruption or misspelling of RINTL).

death of Beno KAMMER, son of Simon KAMMER and Jozefa BOTSTIBER in Budapest VI in 1920, married to Hedwig CZELLER.

     Unfortunately, I couldn't find Zsiga's death.  It's possible the records for the year/district haven't been transcribed yet.  I'm sure you could find records related to the other branches, so definitely worth joining MACSE!

               Best,

                      Judy


Re: Seeking help to find the marriage and death registrations of my Grand Uncle Dr KAMMER Zsigmond, Budapest dentist. #hungary #records

Judy Petersen
 

Hi Rosemary,
     Here is the link to the record (on familysearch) of Dr. Zsigmond KAMMER to Lidia SCHWARZ in Budapest VI on 9 Apr 1923.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRPS-R1W?i=135

     You couldn't find it in the familysearch records because it hadn't been indexed by them.  However, some digitized (but not indexed) post 1895 civil records images available on familysearch have been transcribed by MACSE, the Hungarian Society for Family History Research, and are available only on the MACSE website's database.  MACSE is fee for service, but it's very reasonable at $30/yr.  If you are doing Hungarian (present day borders) research and can afford it, I strongly suggest you join MACSE.  It has been an absolute boon to my Hungarian research and their database is updated monthly.
     
 www.macse.hu

     Best,


                          Judy Petersen


Re: Leopold Israel Haar deregisteredfrom Vienna, Austria on 16/05/1938 #austria-czech

peterhare46@...
 

Hi Sherri and thank you for your response, yes I have the Move Here information but it doesn’t state how / where my Father came from to England, hence my request through Jewishgen.
kind regards Peter 


Re: Seeking help to find the marriage and death registrations of my Grand Uncle Dr KAMMER Zsigmond, Budapest dentist. #hungary #records

Marianna Toth
 

VŐLEGÉNY MENYASSZONY
Családneve: Kammer Családneve: Schwarz
Keresztneve: Zsigmond Keresztneve: Lidia
Apja családneve: Kammer Apja családneve: Schwarz
Apja keresztneve: Adolf Apja keresztneve: Salamon
Anyja családneve: Krausz Anyja családneve: Telner
Anyja keresztneve: Fanny Anyja keresztneve: Irma
A házasságkötés dátuma: 1923.04.09.
Helység: VI. kerület
(Budapest)
Folyószám: 534
Megjegyzés:  
Filmkocka-szám: 344 Filmszám: 4429559
Kapcsolat az anyakönyvhöz
a FamilySearch portálon
Feltöltve: 2015.03.01. Azonosító: 1235719  


Re: Russian Website Jewish Roots #russia #general

yelena.v.volk@...
 

Hello, June!

Okun and Kanfel are popular surname in Moscow synagogue vital records. These records are in the Central Moscow archive. I'm copying these records and want to place them to forum.j-roots.info.
Also there are many folders about Okun and Kanfel Central Moscow archive. You can write me and I will try to find all of these information for you.

Sincerely, Elena
yelena.v.volk@...


Re: "Holy Silence" Documents Vatican's Role in the Holocaust #announcements #holocaust

viferra@outlook.com
 

We watched this excellent documentary yesterday.  I used the link at the bottom of the article in the Jewish Journal to register
https://jewishjournal.com/culture/arts/320367/holy-silence-documents-the-vaticans-role-in-the-holocaust/

Shortly thereafter I received an e-mail with a link to watch.

We were very frustrated at first because the sound through both my laptop and the TV connection was very muted.  It was impossible to hear anything.  Only when we connected external speakers to my computer did the sound become audible.  

Hope this helps for anyone still trying to view the film.

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA

 


Re: Citizenship #general #usa

bobmalakoff@...
 

The 1930 Census appears to show my mother (age 17 at the time) and her parents as naturalized citizens.  What confuses me is a Petition for Naturalization [of a Married Person, under Sec. 310(a) or (b). 322 or 312 of the Nationality Act of 1940 (S4 Stat. 1144-1145] for my grandmother from 1941. (US District Court, Newark NJ)  Upon further reading it states that she was naturalized on May 28, 1924. I don't understand why she had to petition again.
 
Bob Malakoff
Pittsburgh,PA 


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Sherri Bobish
 


I've been following the discussion regarding the occupation of cutter. 

My grandfather, born in Ariogala (near Kovna) circa 1884, arrived as an 8 year old, and lived and worked in Manhattan.  He kept a diary, and I thought I would share some of the notes he wrote regarding his early years as a cutter.

"Put by cutting table as apprentice February 19,1900 at  A. Hurwitz B'way, N.Y. at $4.00"

"Found employment at Empire Skirt Co. May 24 1900, at $9.00 per week as cutter."

"Permanent work at Empire.  Left, and resumed work at Hester Wesler (B'way.) July 2, 1900, @ $10. per week."

"Got position at Star Skirt Co. July 9, 1901 @ $12.00 raised $2.00."

Regards,

Sherri Bobish



Re: Leopold Israel Haar deregisteredfrom Vienna, Austria on 16/05/1938 #austria-czech

Sherri Bobish
 


Peter,

I guess you've seen this index card:
https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.movinghere.org.uk/deliveryfiles/PRO/HO396_32_011/0/1.pdf

Also, 
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/search?filters%5BmakerString%5D%5BHaar%2C%20Zygmunt%20and%20Leopold%5D=on

2nd Polish Corps Fight in Italy
Haar, Zygmunt and Leopold (Undefined) Polish Public Relations Unit (publisher/sponsor)

Regards,

Sherri Bobish

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