Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Judi Wagner


I have just found another Eliane HIRSCHFELD, that arrived in the same year, 1940, but in August instead of April.  She came with her family, father Oscar, born Frastal ? Hungary, mother, Blanchette, born Lausanne Switzerland, Eliane, 14 years, born Strassburg France and Gerard, 11, also born Strassburg France.  Wasn't someone else looking for the name HIRSCHFELD, and with the town Strassburg?  They were coming from Mr Ern. Brunswig in Bordeaux,  France and going to Mr Henry Levi in Brooklyn.  Pencilled in is the  wording: nephew Irving Rechtsintzer ( not sure of spelling). Maybe there is some connection, and the girls are both named after the same relative.

Now, how would I know which Eliane the naturalization papers would refer to?  Is Southern District Court, Manhattan? Brooklyn?
Would it be possible to find the naturalization online, not just the index?  Then it should list the rest of the family info. 

now that we are not getting a hurricane, and we worked all day yesterday to bring in our patio and outdoor furniture, sculpture, mobile, bird bath and bird feeders, etc, we can relax and work on genealogy :-)


Names of people buried in Timisoara, Romania, Cemetery #romania

Mike Grossman

I believe that my maternal ggrandmother Paulina MARCUS is buried in the Timisoara, Romania, cemetery on Celea Sever Bocu (seen on JOWBR). Comments give the source as CET register Vol_2 REG_1 Page 78. 
Any suggests on how I can get to the source (or a list of those buried there) to verify the date of death?
Mike Grossman
Urbana, Illinois, USA
GROSZMANN / GROSSMAN, Tolcsva, Hungary

Re: Lithuania - Soloveitchik Brothers with Same Given Name #lithuania

Irwin Keller

Hello Perry,

That's an interesting bit about children taking their mother's name. I know that often to distinguish between cousins of the same name, probably named after the same recently deceased ancestor, they'd be identified by their mother's given name. Thus giving rise to Jewish surnames like Dvorkin, Chaikin, Sorkin, Rivkin, Rachlin, Estrin, etc., that are all women's names in a genitive case.

But is there something else going on here? I have relatives who also came from Soloveitchiks on their great grandmother's side, whose great grandfather took his wife's name when they reached Chicago. (There they made it Solovy.) I always presumed that her name had more prestige, or was easier for Americans than his difficult name (Knishevitsky). But your "Shorris" story makes me wonder if there was some naming custom alive in the Soloveitchik clan that made taking a mother's surname more common somehow...

I get that there's a difference between being referred to as your mother's before the era of surnames, and consciously choosing your mother's (or wife's) surname after the era of surnames. 

Still, your story, specifically as a Soloveitchik whose family chose Shorris, made my mind start to wonder...

Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland


Many Russian names end with -slav.
For example the two famous musicians Sviatoslav Richter and Mstislav Rastropovich.
Slava is a short form for any of these.
Shay Meyer, Rehovot, Israel.

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Elise Cundiff

I've done the free trial at Ancestry, and also MyHeritage, and various streaming services.  I've never felt that it wasn't made clear that at the end of the free trial, I would be charged for a continuing autorenewal at a specified price.    The statement is usually on more than one page, also.    
I can see that someone who just clicks the buttons without reading the other information on the page (and yes, it is in smaller print, in my opinion that is intentional to snare those who just glance at the page) would miss the information.   But it is clearly there, in my experience and as I recall..  
I've also once or twice forgotten to cancel a full membership at the end of the term, and was auto-renewed.  But, Ancestry has always agreed on request to cancel and refund the charge.   MyHeritage refused to refund.   

Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland


I forgot another Polish name - Zdzisława. Zdzisia or Sława is a short form of it.

Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Max Heffler

Personally, I don’t believe those that have passed care and I’ll take the benefit of finding long lost family.


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Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.



Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

rv Kaplan

In 2017, researcher Tomasz Jankowski found for me extracts from the 1897 Census for my ancestral town of Kaminets-Podolsk in Ukraine which list my grandparents and their families before they were married.  He estimates that 49% of the census records for this city have survived, but very few from other areas of Podolia.  This is the only time I have accessed the 1897 census - nothing doing for my ancestral towns in Lithuania and Poland.

Does anyone know if there are Austrian imperial census records which would cover Galicia?

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland 

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 15:59, <ellar107@...> wrote:
Thank you, Peggy
It is unfortunate that a lot of records were destroyed in Russia/Ukraine. What is the best way to search for birth/marriage/death records in Kiev and Vinnitsa?

Ella Raber

Re: Brick Wall: Help Needed #ukraine



1. I think they most likely traveled under their original name.  
2. Try doing immigration searches at Steve Morse's one-step search site
He has the best search engine for this purpose (and many others as well).   City of origin may help in doing searches.
3. FYI.  I ran a search.  About 160 ships arrived in NY in April 1888.  None on the 15th.
4. He was 2 years old in 1888.  It would be usual for him to have traveled with his parents at that age.  If they immigrated in 1892, perhaps he did also.
5. Look for naturalization papers.  Census data may help finding this.
6. I would not put a lot of faith in immigration information about a small child.  He would have no memory of this, and would have to rely on stories told to him.

Good luck,

Rich Meyersburg
Laurel MD

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Hank Mishkoff

I've found that Ancestry is actually better about this than some other companies are. They auto-renewed my subscriptions a couple of times when I forgot to cancel. When the charges appeared on my statement, I called them and they pleasantly reversed the charges, no argument, no sales pitch. Other companies have not been so accommodating. I think there are companies whose business plan is basically to charge you by surprise and then refuse to issue a refund, but that has not been my experience with Ancestry.

Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

Arthur Rosenthol

Ken is correct. Mt Jacob is across from Mt Lebanon which backs onto Har Zion. Mt Sharon is about a mile and a half away. I have relatives in all 4 cemeteries.

Arthur Rosenthol
Bala Cynwyd PA

Pereyaslav, Ukraine Cemetery Information #ukraine

Lawrence Fagan

Does anyone have information regarding getting access to the cemetery
in Pereyaslav, Ukraine.
I'm asking for: rabbiungvar@... Please respond directly to him.

Thank you,
Larry Fagan

Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Sally Bruckheimer

If you are where LDS libraries are open, you can see old death certificates there. Check at to see if they have what you want available.
I intend to check to see if the closest library is open, so I can go there and access one that I want.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: The Jews of Panevezys and Kupiskis, Lithuania. #lithuania

Linda Cantor

Look at for more information on the fate of Kupiskis Jews. 

Linda Cantor, Kupiskis Kehilalinks webmaster

Levin family from Vinnitsa #ukraine


My Grandfather, Sender Levin, came through Ellis Island in 1913 with his daughter Chaya (Ida).  His wife and remaining children stayed with his brother, Aron Levin, in Vinnitsa until they left for the port in South Philadelphia in 1914.  I can find no information about Aron Levin, or any other Levin, and whether or not they emigrated to the US.

Partial solution found to transcribing audio or video memoirs / testimonies #translation

Peter Cherna

I have a handful of audio and video recordings of my parents and other relatives for which I would love to have transcriptions. In the spring I found a (not free) web site called to which you can upload audio or video files and it will attempt to auto-generate subtitles. The resulting quality varies, mostly between decent and shockingly good. I have only tried detecting English speech. (I have one recording where the sound quality is poor and that one totally failed to produce useful results.)

Rough steps after creating an account:
  • Click New Project
  • Upload your audio/video
  • In the left panel, click Subtitles
  • Click Auto Subtitles, select the language, and click Start
  • Wait a while (it seems to take a few minutes for every half-hour of source material)
  • The subtitles will eventually appear in the Subtitles panel
  • Click Options
  • Click Download .txt
  • Now you will download the a text file containing subtitles

So far I'm finding I need to spend between an hour and maybe four hours per hour of original recording doing cleanups, fixing transcription errors, formatting the result, etc.

Quality of the translation will vary based on a lot of factors, mostly audio recording quality, whether it's more of a narration than a multi-person overlappping conversation, how strong the speaker's accent is, etc. Naturally, foreign place names and proper names are more likely to be mangled.

Still, this is a great way to kickstart a quarantine-project. Based on some past transcribing I've done, this cuts the time/effort needed down to about a quarter of what would be needed without this, give or take. is $30/month and that gives you 4 hours of automatic subtitle generation. If you run out, you can top up the hours ($10 for 5 hours) or wait for the next month. (The top-up button is currently broken, but you can send them an email.)

(I found this web service in the spring helping some college students who needed transcriptions of some Zoom lectures.)

Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

Kenneth Ryesky

Dena and Hadar, I wish to borrow your map!
Because per the map I am using (GoogleMaps) and my personal ambulation experiences, Mt. Sharon is approximately 2.63 kilometers northwesterly from Mt. Lebanon (in the latter of which I have a grandmother, 2 great-grandmothers, and a g-g-grandmother).
Mount Jacob is across Oak Lane from Mount Lebanon (at least according to my map).  And on its other side (per my map, at least), Mt. Lebanon abuts Har Zion Cemetery (where I have a g-uncle); Mt. Lebanon and Har Zion have interconnecting driveways and apparently are maintained by the same maintenance crew.
Please apprise how I can access your map.
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Housing Family Trees for FREE #general

Lisa Liel

Or, you know, don't, if you have any concerns about what the Mormon Church will do with records of your ancestors.

Re: given name "Slawa"? #names #poland


One of my great aunts was called Slawe on her manifest and other early documents. She came to the US from Belarus (Grodno gubernia) in the 1890s. Her English name was Celia.

Rich Meyersburg
Laurel, MD

Re: Inventory of 1834 Revision List for Vilna #lithuania


Is there a way to access the Malat records to peruse rather than doing various searches in ALD?

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