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Holocaust memorials in Montreal - #holocaust #poland #ukraine, #holocaust #poland #belarus #lithuania

Gary Perlman
 

The Baron de Hirsch cemetery in Montreal has 17 Holocaust memorials: JGS-Montreal.org/link/BdH-Memorials. These have been photographed and over 1900 names of the fallen with local (Montreal) ties have been entered by volunteers: Gary Perlman, Cindy Hershon, Daniel Zackon.

Yom HaShoah begins at sunset on Monday, April 20, 2020, so this seemed like a good time to share the information. Note that I am not knowledgeable on this subject; I just took the photos and organized the data entry. We hope that this information is useful to you.

Permalink: https://jgs-montreal.org/link/BdH-Holocaust

Gary Perlman, JGS-Montreal.org

Some of the Memorials Show Names
Names Holocaust Memorial
337 Czestochowa, Poland
74 Hebrew Sick Benefit Association of Montreal
66 Russian-Polish Hebrew Sick Benefit Association
113 Pinsk, Belarus
180 Stolin, Belarus
286 Zamosc, Poland
483 Lublin, Poland
364 Vilna, Lithuania

Some features of the pages on the memorials:

  • Details: For details about each memorial (e.g., more photos, names), click on the Record button.
  • GPS: Each detailed record includes a GPS button that links to Google maps using precise coordinates of the memorial.
  • Places: "Birth places" link to Google maps using today's names towns. Other town names link to many resources on the JewishGen.org locality page.
  • Names: There is an option to show names, so all names can be viewed and searched on the same page. (This option excludes the names on the Canadian Jewish War Casualties, to allow focusing on Holocaust names.)
  • Family and Towns: For some names, there are indications of additional family. Some names are accompanied by towns names.
  • Research: The names on the detailed record pages link to the JGS-Montreal Genealogy Dashboard, which includes a link to search the Shoah Names Database at Yad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center. There you might find pages of testimony.


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Gary Perlman, JGS-Montreal.org


Need help seeking Yitchuk and Yomtov GUTTMAN from Lubny & Katerinslav #ukraine

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

WWII time my Shapiro's lost track of their family. The town was Lubny.
One brother stayed in Lubny and the other went to Katerinslav. One brother was Yitchuk and the other Yomtov Guttman.
What would you do to try to find out what happened?
I tried the holocaust museum. I wrote to the town(I got a lovely letter back) The museum had no records and they suggest I write to a man. BUT got no answer.
One son was in the army..Would there be records somewhere? Where do I write?
I am out of ideas?  I hope you understand what I am asking? HELP and Thanks Gayle

Gayle Schlissel Riley <keys2pst@...>


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

jbonline1111@...
 

I had many photos of my aunt's friends, whom I never knew and who were not Jewish. My sister and I went through all the photos.  Those that neither of us recognized went to the local library, which was happy to have them.  I then notified old classmates through Facebook that the photos were available at the library if they wanted to see them. 
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: identify #cemetery from statues in photo? #romania

Max Heffler
 

V Silver,

                An Eastern European Jewish Cemetery expert replied to me:

 

1)  My first reaction when I saw the photohgraph as a whole, without focusing on the couple or the statues, was that they were not in or adjacent to a cemetery because I saw no clear-cut indications that they were.  That is, I see no fence or gate or entrance to the cemetery as would logically and normally have been the case.  Secondly, I would think that statuary of this scale would be either part of a larger family mausoleum or displayed at the entrance or at some other prominent place within a cemetery.  The photo shows no sign of a mausoleum associated with the statues, nor are there signs that the art work has been placed in prominent proximity to a cemetery.  To me, this scene seems more likely to show a town square with the sculpture placed in an open area.  Of course, if the owner of the photo is certain of the provenance of the photo, then he or she may know definitely whether the couple is standing near a cemetery.

 

2) Of the towns mentioned as possible locations, Barlad, Botosani, and Bucharest, I believe that we can rule out the cemeteries in Barlad and Botosani.  I have visited all three locations; however, I have worked in only one of the cemeteries in Bucharest.  In Barlad there are supposedly three Jewish cemeteries.  I have visited two of them, and I can say this statuary was not there as of 2014, nor were those cemeteries of a scale that would have accommodated such a large monument.  The third Barlad cemetery was overrun with vegetation and inacesible, but again, the modest size of that cemetery would argue against a sculpture this large. 

 

I have seen information indicating three cemeteries located in Botosani; however, Mr. Iordache, the caretaker there, has told me there are only two.  I have visited both repeatedly and the statuary in question was not present.  In addition the size of the two cemeteries argues against a monument of this size having been located there in the past.

 

Bucharest seems a more likely candidate for the location of this monument.  I have visited only one of several large cemeteries located there, in part because I have found information about the cemeteries in Bucharest to be singularly confusing.  However, if Ms./Mr. Silver believes the photo shows a Romanian cemetery, then I would start with Bucharest.

 

3)  If the search has to be expanded beyond Bucharest, I would suggest keeping in mind several fairly obvious points.  Firstly, I would guess that the monument is located in a large urban area.  I can think of cemeteries in Warsaw, Lodz, Wroclaw, and Budapest where this monument would not be markedly out of place despite its scale.   Secondly, perhaps that large urban area would also be one with a signficantly assimilated Jewish population that also displayed marked socialist or Bund inclinations.  The monument strikes me as more secular and socialist than religious, and if that is true, it would require a significant part of the relevant population to be able to implement its erection in a cemetery where most of the art work is relatively conservative.

 

4)  If Ms./Mr. Silver needs the asssistance of someone on the ground in Romania, I can provide contact information for a good man with whom I have worked repeatedly.

 

Max Heffler

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of V Silver via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:22 PM
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] identify #cemetery from statues in photo?

 

Hello,

I believe this photo was taken at a Jewish cemetery in Romania and I’m wondering if anyone might be able to identify it from the large statues?

If I had to guess at a city/location, I might guess Bucharest, Barlad, or Botosani.

Thank you if you have any ideas about where to look.  I did try a Google images search but no luck so far.

V Silver

Miami, FL, USA

 

 

 


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V Silver

 


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Eva Lawrence
 

Can any kind person point me to the marriage record of Elke Eleanore COHEN to Nethanel UNGAR,  whose oldest son Löwe was born in Bonn in November 1798?. Elke was the daughter of Rabbi  Benjamin Simcha COHEN and Ella  AMSCHELL., She was born in Wallerstein in 1777.  I'm hoping  this will give me some information about Nethanael's parents. 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Tracy Fish
 

Hi all,

I wanted to give some thoughts/opinions to this as both an active researcher for the last 3 years, who is 29 years old and an Assistant Professor of Photography.

To start with the original posted questions:
1. If you want an exact 1:1 size then scan at 300dpi. If you want the ability to enlarge the photo or enlarge to reveal details in the photo you might have not otherwise seen, I recommend scanning at 600dpi, which is doubling the size of the original. JPEG files are compressed files, however, they will be universal and accessible by anyone and everyone with any software. JPEGs aren't going anywhere anytime soon. If you knew someone that could go into a software like Photoshop to touch up your photos if needed, then I recommend scanning a TIFF file which will be a much larger file size than a JPEG, but it will be uncompressed. That will require to then be converted to JPEG afterwards, but your safest bet is to just go with JPEG.
2. Adobe Bridge (not a free software) is great for batch processing and batch renaming files. This is what I specifically teach all of my students to use and I use exclusively for my own work.
3. There are not only institutions, but ARTISTS in particular who would love to have these objects. There are many many artists that appropriate found photographs into their artwork. While this has a very specific function depending on the work, just to give an alternate example on how they can be used. I'd be happy to share some artist examples of this if anybody is interested.

Now as a I mentioned I am only 29 years old and started researching intensively 3 years ago. While I know my age group is not by any means the "typical" age when people get interested in Ancestry or even researching, there are some of us out there! When I started, the first place I went to was to family photos. There was only THREE photographs for my paternal family. With little to no connection to that side of the family and being a small immediate family for starters, I was devastated to learn this. As my research continued and while I did not manage to uncover anymore photos, all I kept wanting was a face to the name. My maternal side of the family was a different scenario. There were many photos and negatives that I was able to accumulate across a couple of family members. My grandmother use to write on the back of some photos, so I was able to identify some people, which otherwise would not have been possible. Seeing her handwriting was also precious to me and I scanned. As my research continued and I connected with new found cousins, I was able to send them photos and at times they were able to identify people as well! While there are still several photos that I have not been able to identify, I treasure them just as I do with the other photos. Maybe as I connect with more people they will be able to identify them. If there's anything I've learned with researching and uncovering new information, it is not a race, but just a test of patience and time. I was also heartbroken and devastated when I found out a cousin years ago threw out a SUITCASE worth of photos because they thought no one would be interested in them and they didn't know who the people were.

So with that said, PLEASE do not discard objects. While they might take up space, someone might want them in their own time. Having the original photo/negative is always better than a scan. Digital files can get corrupted, thumb-drives, hard drives, and computers can fail. So if you are going to be scanning, make sure you back-up all of your hard work! But also consider keeping your photos. If it is something that you really don't want to hold on to, first ask other family members if they want them. If not, then consider donating or even giving to other sources like artists who would love these precious materials. While I may not have any children to pass all my work on to, I'm looking forward to sharing this information and these objects with my much younger family when they are older.

With warm regards,

Tracy Fish
tsfishphotography@...
Nevada/Brooklyn, New York


Re: Re: Bobr, Belarus #belarus

starrbrt@...
 

Hi, Elena!

Louis’s wife wasn’t from Bobr.

Louis’s parents may have stayed in Bobr, but I don’t know for sure. His mother’s maiden name was something like “Feigen” or “Fagen.”

Best regards,
Wendy Starr
New York City


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Lorraine Rosengarten
 

I had the same issue until I discovered where my ancestor went to school (in the US).  I was fortunate to find a yearbook on line and the school actually sent me his report card.  


moderated Re: "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

Sarah L Meyer
 

There is a book with the same name, which I bought a few years ago on Amazon.  This has been discussed in one of the FB Jewish genealogy groups with the Hassidim saying that the author excluded information from those who choose to join this group.  That said the point of the book was the difficulty of leaving the group and the challenges faced by those who do.  It was a very good read.  I suggest the book for those who prefer to read books.  I am not a movie watcher and do not know how closely the movie follows the book.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Re: Ukraine plans to sell Jewish cemeteries and massacre sites 2018 #ukraine

David P Cohen
 


Re: Finding family in Hungary #hungary

Lorraine Rosengarten
 


Re: Looking for Info on Lena Leibowitz and family in New York #lithuania #unitedkingdom #usa

jerome-yankowitz@...
 

I have a Lena Leibowitz on my tree but she married Jack Leibowitz and I have her originally as Lena Markowitz. I don't have other info about her.


Re: Looking for Info on Lena Leibowitz and family in New York #lithuania #unitedkingdom #usa

Sonja Marder
 

have you tried familytreenow.com?

lmk,

sonja marder


Re: Cologne cemetery #germany

elanabroch@...
 

I believe there is more than one cemetery.  Here is the person who helped me.  I'm sure he'd know the others.

SYNAGOGEN-GEMEINDE KÖLN
 
Daniel Lemberg
Cemetery director
 
Jewish Cemetery Koeln-Bocklemuend
Venloer Str. 1152
D - 50829 Koeln (Cologne)
 
Telephone:  0049 - (0)221 / 50 81 19
Fax:                 0049 - (0)221 / 992 54 65
E-Mail:           friedhof [at] sgk. de
Internet:       www. sgk. de


Re: Name IDA #names

Carl Kaplan
 

Not to throw out another loop, but my grandfather Charles, had the Yiddish name Chatskill or Yechezkel back in Minsk. The reason given was that the guard at Ellis Island said his name was too hard to pronounce so he said, "now you're Charles/Charlie".
Thus, no logic behind the name evolution. 


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Michael Hoffman
 

Hello Joanne Grosman,

The Royal Air Force Museum in London, England has a Photographic Archive and would probably be interested in you Bomber Command Photographs.

You can contact them by email at https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/contact-us/

Best regards,

Michael Hoffman
Borehamwood,
HERTS, UK


Re: Prohibition Bootleggers and Sacramental Wine photo #usa

krausj2@...
 

What a great photo. Do you have a source on it? Do you know whether it's in the public domain yet?


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Butch Hill
 

I was in a position similar to Ellen. I inherited a large portfolio of old photos from my mother and had no idea what to do with them. I have a great many cousins and one gave me the idea of posting them on Ancestry. So, I've now scanned several hundred photos and uploaded them to an extended family tree that I built on Ancestry for that purpose. Many of those have now been copied by a surprisingly large number of people. Some of those are immediate cousins, but others are extended cousins (3rd and 4th cousins) and others are researchers from the spousal families of Aunts and Uncles. Some have been copied by researchers assembling large regional collections. Hence, they now free of my possession, having a life of their own. 


Bakalarzewo #poland

david@...
 

Hi,
I'm looking for data on the Schidlowski and Kokoshowski families in Bakalrzewo,in the vicinity of Suwałki.

Can anyone help me?

Thank you


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Judy Floam
 

There is a museum in Washington called the National Museum of American Jewish Military History.  Their web address is nmajmh.org