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Re: IOFE family, Vieksniai, Lithuania, Revision List errors? #lithuania

Joel Ratner
 

To my way of thinking, it is quite difficult to confuse the Cyrillic letters for the Latin "f" and "p". Here is my explanation and I'd like to ask the Russian speakers to give me some leeway in my explanation. 

The Cyrillic letter for the Latin "f" is similar to the Greek phi. IF you recall, the Greek phi is the letter with the circle and the vertical line going through it. In Cyrillic, the handwritten 'f' takes a similar form although the shape is not circular, but does have the vertical strikethrough. It is a very distinct letter The Cyrillic "p" is most like the Greek letter "pi' which has two vertical lines and a wavy top connecting the two. Examples of the two letters in question can be seen in the attached files. The list of names used for this was from the YIVO Archive, Record Group 24, F160, Part 1. These are records for the Vilna Rabbinical School and Teachers Seminary from 1872/3.  I selected these records to use as examples due to the neat, clear handwriting not always found in some revision lists and vital records. 

In the first image, an example of the Cyrillic "p" is shown. The name in this list is listed as number 46. The name is PAS, Manuel. In fact, Manuel almost received all "A's (a grade of 5). It is easily seen how the first letter of the surname PAS resembles a Greek pi. Another example is just below for number 47 on the list, PREIS, Leyzer.

In the second image, name number 57 is FRUKHT, Khatskel. The next name, number 58 is FINKELSHTEYN, Mendel. Here you can see the resemblance of the leading letter of the two surnames to the greek "phi". 

From the examples, one can see how it is difficult to mistake the two letters for one another. I have also attached a copy of examples of Cyrillic letters which can be mistaken for one another. Thanks for this list go to the developer, Joe Armata.

Joel Ratner


Re: Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Updates for the month of November, 2013 #bessarabia

skzikit@...
 

how can I enter Bessarabia SIG?
Shahar Klein


Re: Seeking descendants of eleven LIEBOWITZ children who settled in Toronto, New York and New Jersey #usa

Tracy Fish
 

To echo Barbara Sloan’s comment, do you have any other information or where they originated prior to NY/NJ? My fathers maternal family was Leibowitz from NY. 
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Tracy Fish
Nevada/Brooklyn, New York
tsfishphotography@...
IG: @tsfish

Researching:
Belarus: DORINSON, LEIBOWITZ, LEVIN
Hungary: FRIEDMAN, HERTZ, KLEIN, WEIS
Poland: CHELMINSKI, FRAJSTMAN/TRAJSTMAN, KIERZENBLAT, LAKOMSKA, LAKMAN/LANGMAN, LESZCZYNSKI, LEWKOWICZ, MARKOWSKI, POTOLOWSKA, SKOVRONSKY/SKOWRONSKI, WYGODA, ZYNMAN
Russia: JAFFE, KAPLAN, PAKORNOV, SEBULSKY
Saint Petersburg, Russia: FISH/FISCH
Ukraine: GORDON, KAPLAN


Re: Polish Birth Certificate--plus death? #general

patrice.markiewicz@...
 

Hi,

My grand mother on my mother side, Rosalie PICH from Rozborz Okragly (near Jaroslaw in Poland S-E) born in 1916, and who got married with Pawel BUJOK, had a cousin Zofia PAWLOWSKA who lived in a city near Zielona Gora in Poland (East). I do not know if my grand mother sousing Sofia has as previous name Dwojra Malka GOLDIN Borned ZYLBER. I could ask her daughter with whom I am in contact?

Thanks,
Patrice MARKIEWICZ from Paris FRANCE.


Re: Kopyl (Kapule) #belarus

gnscpa@...
 

My paternal grandmother was a  Rivin (Levin) -   I was born & raised in Sioux City as we’re both my parents.   I remember the Shulkin family.  The ‘old man shulkin’ carved the the ark in the Kapulia shul.   It was closed in the mid 50s & the carvings are in the big Jewish museum In nyc.  
I’d say that 90% of Sioux City was either from Kapulia, Tinkovitz, Kletsk or Urevitz  all within 7-10 miles apart.    

Jerry Sadoff 


ORADEA ( NAGYVARAD) BIRTH RECORD 1945 #romania

Andres Carciente
 

In order to get a copy of a birth record from Nagyvarad ( ORADEA) in Romania from 1945 what is the procedure?

 

 

Thanks

Andres Carciente
Budapest


Central Death certificate DATABASE from ISRAEL in english is available? #israel

Andres Carciente
 

Central Death certificate DATABASE from ISRAEL  in ENGLISH is available?



Specific dates: 

1893
1930
1976
1982
. Database from Har Hazetim and database from Har Hamenujot ( Jerusalem)  Thanks


GOPEN OR HOPEN FAMILIY FROM KOBYLNIK BELARUS, NAROC TODAY #belarus

patrice.markiewicz@...
 

Looking forward information related to my grand grand mother Efrosyna GOPEN or HOPEN, born in 1882. She got married with Kazimierz MARKIEWICZ in Kobylnik around 1903 and who died ion the 9th of September 1937 in the village of Naposki near Kobylnik. Her father was Bornislaw HOPEN or GOPEN. She seems to have two brothers, Jozef and Izydor. Please contact me. Patrice MARKIEWICZ from Paris, FRANCE.


(United Kingdom) British History Online Free Access Through July 31, 2020 #unitedkingdom

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The British History online (BHO) founded by the Institute of Historical Research and the History of Parliament Trust in 2003 with over 1,270 volumes, is a digital collection of key printed primary and secondary sources for the history of Britain and Ireland, with a special focus on the period 1300 to 1800. To 31 July 2020  they're making all transcribed BHO content freely available for individual users.

To start your search go to:

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/search


To read more about this see:

https://blog.history.ac.uk/2020/03/british-history-online-makes-all-research-content-free-to-individual-users/

 

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Looking for any information about Eizig Moshe Kremer from Zagreb, Croatia #scandinavia #holocaust #israel

golemir3@...
 

Eizig Moshe Kremer was born on 11/26/1890 in Slatina (Solotvina) Maramureș, Romania/ Ukraina
His parents where Rachel nee Friedman and Isaak Hirsh Kremer.
He was married to Ruza / Rozalita nee Zalmanovitz
Living in Zagreb Croatia, they had 3 children: Lea, bella and Herman. I found same hints to the possibility they had another daughter.
They all were murdered at the Holocaust except for one unidentified daughter who made alia to Israel before the Zazi occupation of Croatia. I'm looking for her along time. Can anyone help me in locating her and with ant information about the family? According to source Lea had any connections to Sweden.
I'm Amir and I live in Jeruzalem, Israel.


DAAR, Julius #galicia

Rojinks3000@...
 

I am looking for my fathers family.  They lived in Dembica


Translation of the Memorial Book of Gostynin, Poland at reduced price #yizkorbooks #poland

Joel Alpert
 

Memorial Book of Gostynin, Poland

Yizkor Books in Print is happy to make this book available at severely
reduced pricing by ordering through JewishGen

List price: $59.95, available from JewishGen for $38

For more information and directions for ordering go to:
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Go toward the bottom of the page below "Available at:" for the link to
start your order.

For information on the other 95 other Yizkor book we publish, go to:
https://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/ybip.html

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project


Re: Headstone Translation #translation

Chayim Fried
 

you are partially right
Hersh is a translation of Tzvi, mostly people who are called hersh, the real name is Tzvi, and only called hersh, i know a few that are called Tzvi hersh both at a time but also rare, but very rarely (or if at all) will someone be called hersh alone,

Hertz ( even if the origin might come from hersh, which i dont know) i have never heard any one be called Tzvi Hertz, we hear alot Naftula hertz.
Zev and wolf, yes wolf is a translation of zev, we see some called zev wolf, rarely wolf as self


Re: Looking for info on the MYERS family in West London #unitedkingdom

Eleanor Richmond
 

This must be more of a coincidence. I think my friend Claire Klein from England to Toronto Canada had the maiden name Meyers..
Her Father may have been( Isaac), a widower, who also emigrated to Toronto Ontario Canada.
If you are interested I might be able to contact her daughter.
Eleanor Richmond


Marguerite Siph - Brussels, Brabant, Belgium #general

evansdd84@...
 

1871-1955, died in Broward County, FL.  With my maternal great-grandpa Isadore Orlando DePass, no marriage record so far, they lived in NY and NJ.  That's the little I know about her.  I am wondering if any other researcher has information on the Siph family.  She had a son, Fandell Leopold DePass, and a daughter, Marguerite Juliette DePass. Thank you.
 
Dan DePass Evans


rtanks55@...
 

I'm looking for genealogists who may have information on survivors and victims of the Holocaust. 
I'm also looking for others who are searching for relatives from Sniatyn
My.grandfather was from Sniatyn and I am searching for his family names, and if any survived


Re: Jewish Records in/around St George in the East, London, England #unitedkingdom

paulkozo@...
 

Usually the most reliable tool for a search of vital records in England and Wales is at freebmd.org.uk.   

You say you have a record for "Henry Sands" birth at St George in the East in July 1905.  There is no such record either on FreeBMD or on Ancestry.  Please tell us what you are relying on.   What else do you know about the family?

There is a Harry Sandperl born Jul/Aug/Sep 1905 St George in the east C Vol 1c Page 304.   Is there any chance that this could be the person you seek?  If there is, there is a birth and death for a Rachel Sandperl in 1907 and a birth of a Millie Sandperl in 1912 (with a mother Krasnabret).  The 1911 census shows them as Sandpearl  -  Simon and Rebecca (both born Russia Warsaw) with children (the older ones born in Warsaw) inc Harry aged 5 and mother in law Krusnabrot.  But Simon and Rebecca die in the 1950s.   So all in all, probably not who you're looking for.     I can see no Henry Sand* in the 1911 census that could be plausibly yours.  Apart from Sandpearl in the 1911 census there is a Harry Sandle of the right age with a mother Rebecca in Bethnal Green and no father living with them.  She seems to die in 1912, so perhaps this is the family?

To find Jewish burials in London there are two main sites:   

-  for the Fed there are lists for the Edmonton and Rainham cemeteries at https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Cemeteries/Federation/Rainham/INDEX.HTM. 
-   for the United at https://www.theus.org.uk/category/find-grave you have to search by cemetery, given and family name.  So, for example, search "East Ham" simon, sandpearl  and there he is.   
  
Most of my East End relatives were buried at East Ham or Rainham until the community moved further out.  

Many of the Jewish institutions have merged over the years.  You might therefore want to start with Jewish Care and Norwood, but you may want to wait until the lockdown is over.

















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Paul Hattori
London UK

SHADUR, SADUR, SHADER, SADER, CHADOUR, SADOUR, SHADOUR,  SZADUR from Salakas, Lithuania
MINDEL, MINDELL from Utena and Vyzuonos, Lithuania
FELLER from Pabrade, Lithuania


IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings April 2020 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues…some were posted on this discussion group but most were not—all postings are included below The following are the summaries for the month of April 2020.  In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you and your society to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert. Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy –making certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.

 

 

  • (European Union) EU Commission Opens General Data Protection Regulation to Public Comments

 

  • (European Union) Microsoft Issues Biannual Trust Reports- On Right to be Forgotten

 

  • (European Union) Right to be Forgotten Case--Whether News Outlet Has to Delete Content in Response to an Erasure Request

 

  • Reclaim the Records--Total Victory in Missouri

 

  • (Republic of Ireland) Launches Online Facility for Birth Registrations; Patience for Ordering Civil Vital Records.

 

  • (Scotland) Scotland's People Announced Due to Pandemic They are Unable to Process any Certificates

 

  • (United Kingdom) Isle of Man Permits Online Birth and Death Registrations Due to Coronavirus

 

  • (US) Census--Paper Forms Going Put to Those Who Did Not Reply Online

 

  • (US) Facebook Litigation on Violating Privacy Rights Revived

 

  • (US) Preservation Week April 26-May 2, 2020

 

  • (US) President Trump Seeks Delay in Finishing 2020 Census

 

  • Correction: (US-IA) Iowa SF 2236 on Right to be Forgotten Renumbered to SF 2351

 

  • (US-WA) Proposed Rules on Vital Records Access

 

 

The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously.  We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner.  If you are interested in any of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives.  To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG  or a subscriber of JewishGen, Avotaynu, Legal Genealogist  etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/

 

The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.

 

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically.  Each month the locales covered differ.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


Re: Passenger arrival records #usa #general

Jx. Gx.
 

Gayle, I am responding to your May 4 posting about the difficulty you are having finding family members on passenger arrival records.  I had similar experiences finding my grandfather and great-grandfather and maybe what I have to say will be of help to you.  I searched in vain for my grandfather at the Ellis Island website using his Hebrew and English names setting the time frame slightly beyond the dates I gleaned from census records and his naturalization papers. I then searched the Ellis Island site by using only his surname.  That produced probably 100 or more possibilities. I went through each of those names regardless of the first name that was on the passenger list.  I finally found him using the nickname "Alter."  That appears to be a somewhat common nickname.

Finding my great-grandfather was even more difficult.  After exhausting every possibility at the Ellis Island site, I was prepared to give up the search when I came across a Canadian site.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/introduction.aspx
However, my hopes were again dashed.  I then went to https://www.familysearch.org/search/ and under the record category "Vermont, St. Albans Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1954," I found my great-grandfather. He had sailed from the UK to Quebec, Canada, and made his way to New York passing through the U.S. immigration station at St. Albans, Vermont.  He should have showed up on the Canadian site, but maybe their records are incomplete.

I found that some of the ship passenger records on the Ellis Island site are not as high quality as the same record on familysearch.com.  I recommend viewing both sites to select the best copy.

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona
mrme1914@...       


Looking for Graham Jaffee in UK of Golman Family in Belarus # Belarus

Joel Alpert
 

Please send me his email if anyone knows of him.  Active in JewishGen

Please respond to me privately.

Joel Alpert