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Re: City of Rotterdam Archives Posts Passenger Lists of Holland America Line 1900-1920 #Netherlands #Passenger Lists

Gregory Engels
 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 01:47 PM, Harry Auerbach wrote:
There does not appear to be a field for the name of the vessel.
You need to go back some frames to find the heading of the section - that will tell you the name of the vessel, departing port and the date. Basically the list of passengers you are looking at is traveling on the same ship. And you only see the person who have made the booking - listing the number of tickets of full, half price and free tickets followed by the route that was booked (e.g. Rotterdam to New York)
The list seems to be structured by the class of staterooms that - first class (Erste Klasse), followed by the second (Tweede Klasse) , third (Derde Klasse).  

Gregory Engels


Re: yiddish words #yiddish

Deborah Blankenberg
 

Several people have brought to my attention an error in Google's translation. Feyvish is a masculine name and does not mean fish. 
--
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
dtblankenberg@... 
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)


Re: What became of the Suwalki-Lomza group run by Marilyn? #lithuania

Jill Whitehead
 

I think it is true that Marlene (not Marilyn) Silverman obtained data from some sources that could not be obtained elsewhere (e.g. from Galina Baranova of the Lithuanian archives), though I think subsequently most information did appear on JRI Poland and Litvak SIG.  A lot of the usefulness of the journal Landsmen was from the articles on the Jewish history and geogaphy of the Suwalki  Lomza area, and of the family histories of members of the SIG, which was very international in scope.

These sorts of articles can now be found in other journals e.g. Shemot the journal of the Jewish Genealogical Society of GB. The current Chair of the JGSGB has ancestors from the Suwalki Lomza area. However this is no substitute for a dedicated group, but it needed a lot of resources to organise, especially as it was paper rather than online based. 

As this area was, and still is, a border area of NE Poland wedged between Kaliningrad (Koningsberg, East Prussia), Belarus and Lithuania, it had a paricular interest for many of us. Our ancestors were culturally Litvak (due to having been part of Lithuania in the middle ages) despite being situated in Poland (under Tsarist control) for most of the 19th and early 20th century. 

Jill Whitehead nee Servian (Serwianski), Surrey, UK
Former UK rep on Landsmen editorial board


Re: Trying to break a brick wall to find living relatives in the US... #general #usa #belarus

Diane Jacobs
 

Also , did you know that some Belarus records could in in JRI-Poland and All Lithuania Database on jewishgen.org

Diane 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels@...>
Date: 3/29/20 6:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Trying to break a brick wall to find living relatives in the US... #general #usa #belarus

This might be the other way around as for the most other brick walls - I do know the historic ancestors here, but I have trouble to connect the dots to the present day.

My Great-Grandmother was a part of big jewish family of 14 siblings. They lived in Minsk, Belarus, Her 10 sisters and the youngest brother have all emigrated to the US and my GGF Basia stayed in Russia with two brothers. (actually my GGM was already "sitting on packed suitcases" when my GGF has left her, so she stayed with five kids in poverty and could not afford the travel). In the Soviet time, nobody in the family have talked about those american relatives, as this could get one in jail or even killed. So it was a big surprise as I interviewed the brother of my grandfather and he came up with this information - but he could not remember any names, even the one of his uncles that actually came to visit in the sixties. That was 12 years ago, and out of those 11 siblings I was able to find four and have met with descendants from two of them and had a little conversation with another one. But the fourth one I am stuck for over two years now.

So here it goes:

My GGGF: Peisakh Gordin b 1851, d 1942 Slaveni, Belarus.

his wife: Frieda Itkin. (he later in life had a second wife Galina)

His Children I know of:

  • Stayed in Russia:

    • Basia Gordin 1878-1942 - married Engelsgelb - my Great-Grandmother, five kids.

    • Isaac Gordin b1870 - d unknown, lived in Minsk, four kids.

    • Aaron Gorind b? - d.~1974, lived in Minsk, two kids.

  • Emmigrated to the US:

    • Isidore (Israel, Izzy) Gordon - b 15 Jul 1895, d 21 Mar 1991 in West Palm Beach, 2 Kids, I have met his grandchild.

    • Fannie (Feiga) Balberor b 15 May 1887, d 10 Mar 1950 Detroit, three kids, I have met her grandkids.

    • Mollie (Malke) Sirota b Apr 1889, d 06 Jan 1953 in LA, three kids, I have some contact on Facebook with her granddaughter.

    • six further sisters I do have nothing on. The birth register for Slaveni https://goo.gl/maps/gFDDFsU6qysgUQ4E8 has apparently not survived WWII.

so the last sister I know about and try to find out her descendants:

  • Rose (Rane, Rone, Rannie) Gordin born 1885 in Sloveni, Senno Uezd, Mogilew Gubernia, Russia died Sep 20 1969 - buried in Montefiore Cemetery, Queens, NY https://imgur.com/welEUxk

    • she married sometime in 1906 one Jacob Etkin b25 Jan 1887 in Minsk, Belarus, d 15 May 1953 in New York

    • Jacob arrived in the US 24 Jun 1906 under the name Yankel Itkin, he stated that he would be joining his Father (according to jacobs gavestone his name would be Abraham) with c/o of a Max Mindlin, Red Bank, NY. Because he had no money, he was detained, and the record list Max Mindlin as his uncle. Manifest https://imgur.com/19cRwfB Detained list https://imgur.com/PtSFPbd

    • Rose arrived 24 Jun 1907, exactly one year after Jacob, passenger name Rone Itkin (row 18) https://imgur.com/jaqELTL - she too was detained and picked up by her husband (row 8) https://imgur.com/YmW8y9z - his address being 165 East Broadway, NY

    • 19 Jan 1909 their daughter Annie (or Anna) Atkin was born https://imgur.com/2RAQfg5 - address 653 Sackman St, NY

    • 1910 Census Jake, Rosie and Annie Etkin - 401 Powell St, Brooklyn, NY https://imgur.com/YOQ0hGT

    • 18 Jan 1912 their daughter Florence Etkin is born in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. https://imgur.com/qql2ucT - Florence died 29 Dec 1975

    • 1915 NY State Census Jacob, Jennie (!), Annie and Flora - they are back in NY: 226 Livonia Ave. https://imgur.com/jwK1Kht

    • Nov 1917 their daughter Sylvia is born in New York

    • Nov 1919 their daughter Lillian is born in New York

    • 1920 Census: Etkin, Jacob, Rose, Anna, Florence and Lillian - Address 1514 St Marks Ave, Brooklyn. https://imgur.com/iyZZB9J

    • 1925 NY State Census surname Atkin, same address 1514 St Marks Ave https://imgur.com/GpH7M9R

    • 1930 Census: https://imgur.com/HTYKy4I and https://imgur.com/YM83YQ3 456 Herzl Street, Brooklyn

    • 1940 Census: They still all live together - address 408 E95th St (that's just a couple of hoses away from Rose's brother Isadore) https://imgur.com/0qtvzTB

    • Anna have married sometime Hyman Lastman https://imgur.com/O8kpe3Q

Now, the headstone of Jacob and Rose says that they had grandchildren. I had wrote an email to Montefiore cemetery once using their contact form in june 2019 and once using the email of their director jan 2020, asking them if they would have a next of kin information or a obituary on file, but never got an answer. (I had some success in writing to the cemeteries before - ifact the first hint of Rose was from the cemetery file from Fanny Balberor (died 1950) that listed in the next of kin list: "Str Mrs Jacob ATKIN NYC", and it took me some time to find everything linked above in this message). 

Any ideas where to dig now?

best regards to all you who are in quarantine, as we are here in Germany. 
Gregory Engels


--
Diane Jacobs


Re: Trying to break a brick wall to find living relatives in the US... #general #usa #belarus

Diane Jacobs
 

Gregory, 

Based on my past experiences with cemeteries. You need to call them ask if they have name and address for next of kin.
If they do, then ask if they will forward a letter from you.  They will only tell you what state (assuming it is the US).

If someone does not want to be helpful, call them back the next day when someone new is there.

In my experience, Jewish cemeteries are usually helpful. If you don't get what you want the first time, try again


Diane Jacobs 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels@...>
Date: 3/29/20 6:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Trying to break a brick wall to find living relatives in the US... #general #usa #belarus

This might be the other way around as for the most other brick walls - I do know the historic ancestors here, but I have trouble to connect the dots to the present day.

My Great-Grandmother was a part of big jewish family of 14 siblings. They lived in Minsk, Belarus, Her 10 sisters and the youngest brother have all emigrated to the US and my GGF Basia stayed in Russia with two brothers. (actually my GGM was already "sitting on packed suitcases" when my GGF has left her, so she stayed with five kids in poverty and could not afford the travel). In the Soviet time, nobody in the family have talked about those american relatives, as this could get one in jail or even killed. So it was a big surprise as I interviewed the brother of my grandfather and he came up with this information - but he could not remember any names, even the one of his uncles that actually came to visit in the sixties. That was 12 years ago, and out of those 11 siblings I was able to find four and have met with descendants from two of them and had a little conversation with another one. But the fourth one I am stuck for over two years now.

So here it goes:

My GGGF: Peisakh Gordin b 1851, d 1942 Slaveni, Belarus.

his wife: Frieda Itkin. (he later in life had a second wife Galina)

His Children I know of:

  • Stayed in Russia:

    • Basia Gordin 1878-1942 - married Engelsgelb - my Great-Grandmother, five kids.

    • Isaac Gordin b1870 - d unknown, lived in Minsk, four kids.

    • Aaron Gorind b? - d.~1974, lived in Minsk, two kids.

  • Emmigrated to the US:

    • Isidore (Israel, Izzy) Gordon - b 15 Jul 1895, d 21 Mar 1991 in West Palm Beach, 2 Kids, I have met his grandchild.

    • Fannie (Feiga) Balberor b 15 May 1887, d 10 Mar 1950 Detroit, three kids, I have met her grandkids.

    • Mollie (Malke) Sirota b Apr 1889, d 06 Jan 1953 in LA, three kids, I have some contact on Facebook with her granddaughter.

    • six further sisters I do have nothing on. The birth register for Slaveni https://goo.gl/maps/gFDDFsU6qysgUQ4E8 has apparently not survived WWII.

so the last sister I know about and try to find out her descendants:

  • Rose (Rane, Rone, Rannie) Gordin born 1885 in Sloveni, Senno Uezd, Mogilew Gubernia, Russia died Sep 20 1969 - buried in Montefiore Cemetery, Queens, NY https://imgur.com/welEUxk

    • she married sometime in 1906 one Jacob Etkin b25 Jan 1887 in Minsk, Belarus, d 15 May 1953 in New York

    • Jacob arrived in the US 24 Jun 1906 under the name Yankel Itkin, he stated that he would be joining his Father (according to jacobs gavestone his name would be Abraham) with c/o of a Max Mindlin, Red Bank, NY. Because he had no money, he was detained, and the record list Max Mindlin as his uncle. Manifest https://imgur.com/19cRwfB Detained list https://imgur.com/PtSFPbd

    • Rose arrived 24 Jun 1907, exactly one year after Jacob, passenger name Rone Itkin (row 18) https://imgur.com/jaqELTL - she too was detained and picked up by her husband (row 8) https://imgur.com/YmW8y9z - his address being 165 East Broadway, NY

    • 19 Jan 1909 their daughter Annie (or Anna) Atkin was born https://imgur.com/2RAQfg5 - address 653 Sackman St, NY

    • 1910 Census Jake, Rosie and Annie Etkin - 401 Powell St, Brooklyn, NY https://imgur.com/YOQ0hGT

    • 18 Jan 1912 their daughter Florence Etkin is born in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. https://imgur.com/qql2ucT - Florence died 29 Dec 1975

    • 1915 NY State Census Jacob, Jennie (!), Annie and Flora - they are back in NY: 226 Livonia Ave. https://imgur.com/jwK1Kht

    • Nov 1917 their daughter Sylvia is born in New York

    • Nov 1919 their daughter Lillian is born in New York

    • 1920 Census: Etkin, Jacob, Rose, Anna, Florence and Lillian - Address 1514 St Marks Ave, Brooklyn. https://imgur.com/iyZZB9J

    • 1925 NY State Census surname Atkin, same address 1514 St Marks Ave https://imgur.com/GpH7M9R

    • 1930 Census: https://imgur.com/HTYKy4I and https://imgur.com/YM83YQ3 456 Herzl Street, Brooklyn

    • 1940 Census: They still all live together - address 408 E95th St (that's just a couple of hoses away from Rose's brother Isadore) https://imgur.com/0qtvzTB

    • Anna have married sometime Hyman Lastman https://imgur.com/O8kpe3Q

Now, the headstone of Jacob and Rose says that they had grandchildren. I had wrote an email to Montefiore cemetery once using their contact form in june 2019 and once using the email of their director jan 2020, asking them if they would have a next of kin information or a obituary on file, but never got an answer. (I had some success in writing to the cemeteries before - ifact the first hint of Rose was from the cemetery file from Fanny Balberor (died 1950) that listed in the next of kin list: "Str Mrs Jacob ATKIN NYC", and it took me some time to find everything linked above in this message). 

Any ideas where to dig now?

best regards to all you who are in quarantine, as we are here in Germany. 
Gregory Engels


--
Diane Jacobs


Re: yiddish words - kayne hora means no evil eye. God willing is im yirtse haShem #yiddish

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Kayne hora from the Hebrew Bli ayen hara'a means without the evil eye. God willing is im yirtse ha-Shem
Ida


Re: Fogel family in Rivne or Rowno is this the same place #ukraine

igersammy@...
 

Hi Marilyn,

My own family from the city of Rovno (Rivne in the Ukrainian language). This City has a big ownership history like most of the cities and towns in the Eastern Europe. 
From Wikipedia and my own research:
1.  Following the Second Partition of Poland in 1793 Rovno (Rivne) became a part of the Russian Empire, and in 1797 it was declared to be a county level (uyezd) town of the Volhynian Governorate of the Russian Empire. 
2. 
During World War I (1914-1918) and the period of chaos shortly after, it was briefly under German, Ukrainian, Bolshevik, and Polish rule. In April–May 1919 Rivne served as the temporary capital of Ukrainian People's Republic
3. As the result of the Polish-Soviet war and 
in accordance with the Riga Peace Treaty of 1921 it became a part of Polish Volhynian Voivodeship, a situation which would last until the Second World War (17 September, 1939).
4. On 17-September-1939, Rovno (
Rivne) was taken over by the Soviet Union. From December of the same year Rovno (Rivne) became the centre of the newly established Rivne Oblast, within the Ukrainian SSR.
5. 
On June 28, 1941 Rovno (Rivne) was captured by Nazi Germany, which later established the city as the administrative centre of Reichskommissariat Ukraine. At the time, roughly half of Rovno's inhabitants were Jewish; of these, about 23,000 were taken to a pine grove in Sosenki near the City of Rovno (Rivne) and killed between November 6 and 8 by Nazis and their collaborators. A Jewish ghetto was established in Rovno for the remaining 5,000 Jews. In July 1942, its population was sent 70 km (43 mi) north to Kostopil where they were killed, the ghetto was subsequently liquidated on 13-July-1942.
6. 
On February 2, 1944, the city was liberated from the Nazis by the Red Army in the Battle of Rovno, and remained under Soviet control until Ukraine regained its independence on the break-up of the USSR in 1991.

Please also see attached:
 ''
Holocaust in Rovno Book'' in PDF by Jefrey Burds;


Australian newspapers #general

Sue Levy
 

For those of us who are now using our at-home time to do family history research, I must commend you to the National Library of Australia’s online searchable newspaper database, the Trove – trove.nla.gov.au. This free searchable database contains much more than newspapers and with some practice becomes very navigable.

 

May I also suggest the very similar free database PapersPast (https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz) which has digitized New Zealand newspapers, gazettes etc from early colonial times.

 

Last year I gave an illustrated talk to the Jewish Historical & Genealogical Society of Western Australian on the ways to navigate and get the best from the Trove and PapersPast.

 

Any researchers who would like a copy of my notes and Powerpoint slides is welcome to contact me privately.

 

Wishing all researchers and families well during these difficult times, and may your family history research be as productive as ours. Lately we have been inordinately fortunate in receiving hints which mostly bore fruit, and the subsequent research (using Trove in a couple of cases) has been most entertaining. However, if it Is suggested that a name on your family tree belonged to a convict transported to Australia in 1822, and discover the man with that name on your tree has a wife born in 1949, do think twice before getting excited about it!! Your claim to convict ancestry will have to wait for another time…

 

Sue Levy

Perth, Australia

Librarian, JHGSWA


Re: Given name Ksyel

Judy Petersen
 

Ksyel is probably a corruption or alternate form of Kusiel/Kutiel, which is in itself a nickname or shortened version of Yekutiel.  As to what it would be in English, that would be total speculation.  Sometimes people Americanized their names by using the same first letter or sound.  My best guess as to the closest Americanization in that respect would be something like Charles.


Re: Issue 139 of Genealo-J has just been published #france

cadesky@...
 

How can I get a copy of this issue #139 ? My grandfather Isaac Tivoli lived in Salonica before he was deported to Auschwitz but I know he and his family’s births were registered in Livorno as many years ago I was able
to get documents from the city 
Cadesky@...


Re: Given name Ksyel

jrsackerman@...
 

Ksyel is a nickname for the name Yekusiel (Hebrew Yekutiel).  There is no close English name.  He could have chosen most anything.


Trying to break a brick wall to find living relatives in the US... #general #usa #belarus

Gregory Engels
 

This might be the other way around as for the most other brick walls - I do know the historic ancestors here, but I have trouble to connect the dots to the present day.

My Great-Grandmother was a part of big jewish family of 14 siblings. They lived in Minsk, Belarus, Her 10 sisters and the youngest brother have all emigrated to the US and my GGF Basia stayed in Russia with two brothers. (actually my GGM was already "sitting on packed suitcases" when my GGF has left her, so she stayed with five kids in poverty and could not afford the travel). In the Soviet time, nobody in the family have talked about those american relatives, as this could get one in jail or even killed. So it was a big surprise as I interviewed the brother of my grandfather and he came up with this information - but he could not remember any names, even the one of his uncles that actually came to visit in the sixties. That was 12 years ago, and out of those 11 siblings I was able to find four and have met with descendants from two of them and had a little conversation with another one. But the fourth one I am stuck for over two years now.

So here it goes:

My GGGF: Peisakh Gordin b 1851, d 1942 Slaveni, Belarus.

his wife: Frieda Itkin. (he later in life had a second wife Galina)

His Children I know of:

  • Stayed in Russia:

    • Basia Gordin 1878-1942 - married Engelsgelb - my Great-Grandmother, five kids.

    • Isaac Gordin b1870 - d unknown, lived in Minsk, four kids.

    • Aaron Gorind b? - d.~1974, lived in Minsk, two kids.

  • Emmigrated to the US:

    • Isidore (Israel, Izzy) Gordon - b 15 Jul 1895, d 21 Mar 1991 in West Palm Beach, 2 Kids, I have met his grandchild.

    • Fannie (Feiga) Balberor b 15 May 1887, d 10 Mar 1950 Detroit, three kids, I have met her grandkids.

    • Mollie (Malke) Sirota b Apr 1889, d 06 Jan 1953 in LA, three kids, I have some contact on Facebook with her granddaughter.

    • six further sisters I do have nothing on. The birth register for Slaveni https://goo.gl/maps/gFDDFsU6qysgUQ4E8 has apparently not survived WWII.

so the last sister I know about and try to find out her descendants:

  • Rose (Rane, Rone, Rannie) Gordin born 1885 in Sloveni, Senno Uezd, Mogilew Gubernia, Russia died Sep 20 1969 - buried in Montefiore Cemetery, Queens, NY https://imgur.com/welEUxk

    • she married sometime in 1906 one Jacob Etkin b25 Jan 1887 in Minsk, Belarus, d 15 May 1953 in New York

    • Jacob arrived in the US 24 Jun 1906 under the name Yankel Itkin, he stated that he would be joining his Father (according to jacobs gavestone his name would be Abraham) with c/o of a Max Mindlin, Red Bank, NY. Because he had no money, he was detained, and the record list Max Mindlin as his uncle. Manifest https://imgur.com/19cRwfB Detained list https://imgur.com/PtSFPbd

    • Rose arrived 24 Jun 1907, exactly one year after Jacob, passenger name Rone Itkin (row 18) https://imgur.com/jaqELTL - she too was detained and picked up by her husband (row 8) https://imgur.com/YmW8y9z - his address being 165 East Broadway, NY

    • 19 Jan 1909 their daughter Annie (or Anna) Atkin was born https://imgur.com/2RAQfg5 - address 653 Sackman St, NY

    • 1910 Census Jake, Rosie and Annie Etkin - 401 Powell St, Brooklyn, NY https://imgur.com/YOQ0hGT

    • 18 Jan 1912 their daughter Florence Etkin is born in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. https://imgur.com/qql2ucT - Florence died 29 Dec 1975

    • 1915 NY State Census Jacob, Jennie (!), Annie and Flora - they are back in NY: 226 Livonia Ave. https://imgur.com/jwK1Kht

    • Nov 1917 their daughter Sylvia is born in New York

    • Nov 1919 their daughter Lillian is born in New York

    • 1920 Census: Etkin, Jacob, Rose, Anna, Florence and Lillian - Address 1514 St Marks Ave, Brooklyn. https://imgur.com/iyZZB9J

    • 1925 NY State Census surname Atkin, same address 1514 St Marks Ave https://imgur.com/GpH7M9R

    • 1930 Census: https://imgur.com/HTYKy4I and https://imgur.com/YM83YQ3 456 Herzl Street, Brooklyn

    • 1940 Census: They still all live together - address 408 E95th St (that's just a couple of hoses away from Rose's brother Isadore) https://imgur.com/0qtvzTB

    • Anna have married sometime Hyman Lastman https://imgur.com/O8kpe3Q

Now, the headstone of Jacob and Rose says that they had grandchildren. I had wrote an email to Montefiore cemetery once using their contact form in june 2019 and once using the email of their director jan 2020, asking them if they would have a next of kin information or a obituary on file, but never got an answer. (I had some success in writing to the cemeteries before - ifact the first hint of Rose was from the cemetery file from Fanny Balberor (died 1950) that listed in the next of kin list: "Str Mrs Jacob ATKIN NYC", and it took me some time to find everything linked above in this message). 

Any ideas where to dig now?

best regards to all you who are in quarantine, as we are here in Germany. 
Gregory Engels


Re: Given name Ksyel

Israel P
 

In proper Hebrew, that is Yekusiel /Yekutiel. In other languages they could have used anything.  It is my Uncle Ken's name.


#galicia Researcher #galicia

Amos Sobel 4X4MF
 

Looking for a researcher to find out the birth records of Stryj in Eastern Galicia for the period 1924-1942.

Your help is welcome

Amos Sobel
Haifa, Israel


Re: Given name Ksyel

Susan&David
 

I looked up the ship Statendam, arrived NY on 4 Sep 1898. Child is male. I would say Ksyel is short for Yekusiel

David Rosen
Boston, MA
 


On 3/28/2020 9:32 PM, Rachelle Litt wrote:
On the ships manifest it says the child’s name was Ksyel. I’m trying to figure out what that might have become in English?
Any suggestions? Mother was Sure Lindenbaum
Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
--
Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida


Re: yiddish words #yiddish

David Lewin
 

Is this "Halts kammer"  not the German word Hals  = throat  rather than Holz = wood?

David Lewin
London


At 19:22 28/03/2020, Deborah Blankenberg wrote:
Google Translate transliterates ער רעד זיך �פ ווי� פייוויש �ין ה�לץ ק�ממער as "er red zikh af vya feyvish in halts kammer" and translates it as literally meaning "He speaks like a fish in a wooden chamber." Such a colorful language, our mameloshn!
--
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
dtblankenberg@...
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)


Seeking FEUERLICHT - to USA late 1800s #austria-czech #hungary

Alex Magocsi
 

In the late 1800s, Herman FEUERLICHT emigrated to the USA with his family and settled in Manhattan, NYC.
As a point of reference, per the 1869 Hungarian / Slovak census, Herman & family were residing in Lapispatak, now Ploské, Saros County.

I am trying to locate a descendant of this family to see if there is a family relationship to Hanna FEUERLICHT / FEIERLIKT.

I am writing to the list in the hope that Ira FEUERLICHT, son of Herbert & Roberta (STRAUS) FEUERLICHT is a member of this community AND will respond.
He reportedly resides in Manhattan and is the great-grandson of Herman.

Alex

MAGOCSI (Gyula-Jovancza, Gyulaj, Tolna)
Grosz (Nyirbator)
Greif (Prešov District, Austria Hungary,Slovakia)


IGRA Offering Free Opportunities to Connect and Learn #israel

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Associations (IGRA) has two new opportunities for you to engage and be connected to the genealogy community. After Pesach we will be hosting a series of free webinars with lecturers from around the world. The schedule will be available shortly. 

More immediately we are beginning a free “Show & Tell with IGRA” ZOOM series this Monday, March 30 and Wednesday, April 1. These sessions in English will take place weekly (but not on a holiday) Monday evenings at    9 pm Israel time (2 pm EDT, 11 am PDT). The same topic will be in Hebrew on Wednesday evenings 21:00 Israel time.

“Show & Tell with IGRA” will be open to those who connect to ZOOM with our meeting code. We will do our best to record these sessions and make them available on our website.

Each session of “Show & Tell with IGRA” will demonstrate a different topic. Some will be connected specifically to IGRA, while others will demonstrate how to use other websites or applications – hands on topics you can immediately make use of on your own. Each session will run for 30 minutes with time following for you to ask questions via the Chat option.

The first “Show & Tell” will emphasize IGRA’s many resources. To join the Zoom Meeting  on March 30th  go to 


https://us04web.zoom.us/j/275283882

If you have suggestions of topics for us to include in future sessions please send them to webinars@...

 

Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair 

 

 


Re: Would a boy and a girl in the same family ever both be given essentially the same names? #ukraine #names

Eric Mack
 

One possibility is that one sibling was named after the ancestor, and the other sibling was born on or about the 9th of Av.  "Menachem" and "Nechamah" connote "comfort", and the month of Av is often called "Menachem Av".

On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 04:24:52 AM GMT+3, Shlomo Katz <shlomodkatz@...> wrote:


I know many Orthodox families, my own and others, in which brothers and sisters have similar names, for example:
Menachem and Nechamah
Baruch and Bracha
Yehuda and Yehudis.

Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


Re: Given name Ksyel

Eric Mack
 

I would guess יקותיאל, which is rendered as  "Yekusiel" in Ashkenazic pronunciation, and "Yekutiel" in S'fardit.

The name is from the Bible, Chronicles I, 4:18

"וְאִשְׁתּוֹ הַיְהֻדִיָּה יָלְדָה אֶת יֶרֶד אֲבִי גְדוֹר וְאֶת חֶבֶר אֲבִי שׂוֹכוֹ וְאֶת יְקוּתִיאֵל אֲבִי זָנוֹחַ" (דברי הימים א', ד', י''ח).

Sefaria translates that verse as:
And his Judahite wife bore Jered father of Gedor, Heber father of Soco, and Jekuthiel father of Zanoah. These were the sons of Bithiah daughter of Pharaoh, whom Mered married.

Eric Mack, Jerusalem


On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 04:52:40 AM GMT+3, Rachelle Litt <rlittrph@...> wrote:


On the ships manifest it says the child’s name was Ksyel. I’m trying to figure out what that might have become in English?
Any suggestions? Mother was Sure Lindenbaum
Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Rachelle Litt
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida