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Re: Would a boy and a girl in the same family ever both be given essentially the same names? #ukraine #names

Kenneth Packer
 

Part of the answer to this question is the family’s Jewish “Affiliation.”  There was a famous Chernobyl Hasidic Rabbi, Menachum Nuchem.  Many followers of him named children after him.  On my family tree there are several who have his name, just as an honor to him, not because he was related.

Ken Packer

Washingtonville, NY

 

Researching: PEKER, PACKER, BECKER, PECKER from anywhere in the Ukraine, especially towns within a 200 mile radius for Kiev (Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan, Brusilov, Khordorkev, Rudni). 

 

 

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Re: Birthplace vs. emigration place vs. port of origin for destination in US? #general

Alan Shuchat
 

The U.K. Outward Passenger Lists on Ancestry sometimes show how a passenger leaving the U.K. arrived there. I’ve found this information for someone who left from Libau and then took a ship from Southampton to Canada.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Re: What is the difference between "town" and "residence" in Ukraine Death Records on JewishGen #ukraine

Alan Shuchat
 

Following up on my earlier post (https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/message/640980), I think there are translation errors in the death records for Dina and Elya Shumyatskij that Judy Kaufman posted in her question. Dina's husband is listed as Benyamin in the translation, but the Russian says El'ya-Benyamin and the Hebrew says Eliahu Beniamin. Elya's father is listed as Benyamin, but the Russian says the boy who died is Don El'ya-Benyaminov and the Hebrew says Dan ben Eliahu Beniamin. So his name should be Don rather than Elya and his father should be El'ya-Benyamin. If this is correct, then Dina lost her husband and then three months later lost her son.

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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Re: yiddish words #yiddish

hlevinemd@...
 

Noting that there is a post today about the very rare occurrence of kids being named after their living parents, I recalled a Yiddish saying that I love dearly, meaning "drop dead:"

"May you have someone named after you....soon!"

Hank Levine


Re: Fogel family in Rivne or Rowno is this the same place #ukraine

Max Heffler
 

Yes. You can see the variations in the JewishGen Gazetteer at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/gazetteer/gazetteer.php:

 

More Info Rivne, Rovno, Rowne, Ruvne                populated place              

50°37' N 26°15' E

G

Ukraine

187.8 miles W of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E

 

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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Fogel family in Rivne or Rowno is this the same place #ukraine

 

Dear fellow researchers
I hzvd documents indicating my Fogel family is from Rivne, and some documents state they are from Rovno.  Is this the same town?  Also is Rivne or Rovno
the name of a region, an oblast perhaps under Tsarist Russia?  The conflicting forms were filled out from 1913 through 1940.  Thank you for your help.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


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The JGS of Montreal - Program Announcements #jgs-iajgs #events

Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
 

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Dear members and friends of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal:

 

We regret to inform you that our Monday, April 06th, featuring JGS-M

President Stanley Diamond, and Tuesday, May 05th, featuring Andrew

Zalewski, Board member of Gesher Galicia, have been cancelled due to

Corona virus concerns.

 

However, please stay tuned for further news of our programs.

 

And - we are working on the possibility of bring our Sunday Morning

Family Tree Workshops to you online - news of these to follow shortly.

Stay tuned...

 

Merle Kastner,

JGS of Montreal, Programming

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Re: Translation of Roman alphahbet "Chenat Glanwan" #usa

Sherri Bobish
 
Edited

Edward,

Are you looking at a copy of the actual certificate, or a transcription?  If you have a copy of the certificate than please post it on Viewmate so that we can help you decipher the words.

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ


Re: Fogel family in Rivne or Rowno is this the same place #ukraine

Susan&David
 

Rivne / Rovno / Rowno in Ukraine are one place.
See https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/rovno/index.asp

David Rosen
Bosto, MA


#galicia #galicia

Sharon Taylor
 

I just had an Op-Ed published in the Jewish Exponent (in Philadelphia) that describes eastern Galicia in the years leading up to the great flu pandemic of 1918.

You can check it out here:


Sharon Taylor
Gesher Galicia member

Researching
NEMETH, BLECH, KASTENBAUM, (in Mariampol)
FLEISIG, WEISNER (in Kulikow)
FISHER and RAPPAPORT in Lithuania 



Re: Would a boy and a girl in the same family ever both be given essentially the same names? #ukraine #names

jbonline1111@...
 

FWIW, my grandfather and his uncle had the same name, according to my mother.  I can't say for sure, but I assume that they were both named after the same deceased relative. I don't have any names farther back than my gg, so I can't be sure.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: What became of the Suwalki-Lomza group run by Marilyn? #lithuania

Joel Ives
 

I was under the impression that there was information published in "Landsmen" the quarterly publication of the Suwalki-Lomza Interest Group that cannot be found anywhere else.  I don't believe that the information can be found on-line.  

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey USA

Researching:
KAPLAN: Lomza & Piatnica
ABOWICZ: Sniadowo
KOHN, KON: Nowogrod
PIENKIEWICZ, NEACHOWICZ, BRZOZA, ZABORSKI, BLUMBERG: Lomza Gubernya 

 


Fogel family in Rivne or Rowno is this the same place #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

Dear fellow researchers
I hzvd documents indicating my Fogel family is from Rivne, and some documents state they are from Rovno.  Is this the same town?  Also is Rivne or Rovno
the name of a region, an oblast perhaps under Tsarist Russia?  The conflicting forms were filled out from 1913 through 1940.  Thank you for your help.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


Re: Can I assume ROSENBLUMs buried in Brisker cemetery section came from Brest?

COMCAST Pop
 

Both of my Grosser great -grandparents were board members of a burial group from Makhnovka but neither was from there. They and several of their children are buried in the society’s plots. The connection was that their daughter’s husband’s mother was from Makhnovka. Given how many of my relatives are in the society’s plots( but the daughter and her husband, my grandparents, are not there) I could have thought that branch of my family was from Makhnovka. They were not. 


Re: Upcoming free access to the Archives of St. Petersburg, Russia

N. Summers
 

Do you have a link to the archives? I haven't been able to find it.

Nancy Summers
Maryland USA


Re: National Emergency Library Created by Internet Archive #announcements

Ellen
 

I was surprised to find quite a few books in the National Emergency Library that may be of interest to this group.  Some of them are either out of print or not available in my local library system.

Under Topics & Subjects on the left side of the page, I clicked on "Jews" and then limited my search to books in English (under Language).  The default order seems to be by date published, starting with the oldest books in the collection, but if you sort them alphabetically by title, you get a better sense of what's available.  

Here are just a few examples:

A Brotherhood of Memory:  Jewish Landsmanshaftn in the New World
A Student's Guide to Jewish American Genealogy
A Century of Ambivalence:  the Jews of Russia and the Soviet Union, 1881 to the Present
A Bintel Brief:  Sixty Years of Letters from the Lower East Side from the Jewish Daily Forward
Our Parents' Lives:  The Americanization of Eastern European Jews

There are also memoirs, Yiddish folktales, novels, books about history, etc.  If you're looking for a particular title, it's definitely worth a look.

Ellen
 
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Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Re: What is the difference between "town" and "residence" in Ukraine Death Records on JewishGen #ukraine

Alan Shuchat
 

Every subject in the Russian Empire was registered in a social class and at a particular location, but didn’t necessarily live there.
“Residence” means where the person was registered. “Town” means where the event took place.

For example, the 2nd person in this list, Dina, was registered as a “meshchanina” (townsperson - feminine form) in Glukhov. She died in Baturin and was buried in the Jewish cemetery in Konotop, 16 miles from Baturin. The deaths on this page (626) and the surrounding pages of the record book took place in various towns but were recorded in Konotop and the burials took place there. The records were certified by the Konotop crown rabbi. The people were identified by their town of registration. I’m attaching a copy of the page. Dina is on right-hand side, with the number 29 in the leftmost column.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


Re: What is the difference between "town" and "residence" in Ukraine Death Records on JewishGen #ukraine

Chuck Weinstein
 

Town reflects either where the document was registered or the town in which the individual was registered.  It was very difficult to change your registration, and it persisted for generations, even though people moved about in the Pale. In most cases in these records, it is the town where the record was filed, however.  Many of these records have been digitized by familysearch.org and are on line.  Others are in the process.  Microfilms are no longer available in most Family History Centers, but are available in Salt Lake City.  

Documents were registered in the regional capital, which is generally near the town of residence.  They were later consolidated into regional archives.  

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, JewishGen Ukraine Research Division
chuck1@...


Re: Given name Anuta from Bessarabia #bessarabia

Valentin Lupu
 

Anuta (pronounced Anutza in Romanian) is the diminutive for the Romanian name Ana or the Hebrew equivalent Chanah / Hanah.

Valentin Lupu
ISRAEL


Re: Would a boy and a girl in the same family ever both be given essentially the same names? #ukraine #names

Shelley Mitchell
 

My Galicia family followed the traditional approach. The first male born to each sibling would carry my deceased grandfather’s name. Since my mother only had daughters, as the first born, I carried his name. At the time, and long after, he was my only deceased grandparent.
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Shelley Mitchell 
NYC
searching KONIGSBERG/KINIGSBERG, TERNER, MOLDAUER, SCHONFELD - Kolomyya PLATZ - DELATYN. All Galicia.


Re: Would a boy and a girl in the same family ever both be given essentially the same names? #ukraine #names

Sally Bruckheimer
 

You say 'Essentially' the same name. Menachem isn't Nechama, and a double name isn't the same as any single name. If the names are different, they are different, not 'essentially' the same.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ