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Re: [Canada] Drouin Institute Places 1.3 Million Obituaries Online Free Access #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Paul,

Good observation, but that is because in Quebec (perhaps in part because of
the use of the French-based Civil Code) married women very often do not take
their husband's surname when they marry but retain their birth surname.

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Paul Silverstone [mailto:paulh2@...] wrote:
This is a great resource. But note that women are listed under their
maiden names and not their married names.
On 4/5/2014 3:06 AM, Jan Meisels Allen wrote:
The Drouin Institute has put online 1.3 million Quebec obituaries dating
from 1999 to the present-access is free. The obituaries have been collected
from 250 different internet sources. The records can be searched by name
and date of death. To access the website go to:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/avis-deces .

A list of other records on their website may be found at:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/about . The Drouin Institute is a
subscription site. Only the obituaries listed above have free access.
More information on The Drouin Institute may be found at:
http://www.drouininstitute.com/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: [Canada] Drouin Institute Places 1.3 Million Obituaries Online Free Access #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Paul,

Good observation, but that is because in Quebec (perhaps in part because of
the use of the French-based Civil Code) married women very often do not take
their husband's surname when they marry but retain their birth surname.

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Paul Silverstone [mailto:paulh2@...] wrote:
This is a great resource. But note that women are listed under their
maiden names and not their married names.
On 4/5/2014 3:06 AM, Jan Meisels Allen wrote:
The Drouin Institute has put online 1.3 million Quebec obituaries dating
from 1999 to the present-access is free. The obituaries have been collected
from 250 different internet sources. The records can be searched by name
and date of death. To access the website go to:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/avis-deces .

A list of other records on their website may be found at:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/about . The Drouin Institute is a
subscription site. Only the obituaries listed above have free access.
More information on The Drouin Institute may be found at:
http://www.drouininstitute.com/


Re: Finding possible Jewish family links #general

Roger Lustig
 

Dear Rose,
Welcome to the group, and thanks for your detailed exposition of your
interests.

According to Wikipedia, ">from the Marriage Act 1753 until 1837, only
marriages conducted by the Church of England, by Quakers, or Jewish
marriages, were recognised in England and Wales. This was changed by the
Marriage Act 1836 which, in addition to introducing civil marriage, also
allowed ministers of other faiths (Nonconformists and Roman Catholics)
to act as registrars." Before 1753 formal marriage was evidently not
required. So no, one would not look to an Anglican church register to
find Jewish marriages.

Was Judaism practiced clandestinely? Depends on where and when. Before
Oliver Cromwell's time, there were officially no Jews in England. Some
Conversos (Jews >from Spain who had publicly converted under duress but
maintained their faith in secret) settled in London and formed a
clandestine community there. After 1655 at least some Jewish settlement
was permitted. By the 18thC there were several synagogues and ever fewer
restrictions.

On the other hand, the vast majority of English Jews lived and still
live in cities, so it would have been unusual to find Jews in rural
farming communities. Not impossible; but unlikely.

Benjamin, Schadrach, Meschach/Meshack and Abednego are indeed
Old-Testament names. But the first of these is also a popular given name
among Gentiles in many countries, and the others are *not* commonly
found among Jews. The 1841 England census has almost 800 entries with
given name Shadrach or Shadrack, 150 Meshachs and almost 100 Abednegos.
(Over 40,000 Daniels, for those keeping score.)

Looking through lists of Jewish names, I can't find a single instance of
any of those names. Ancestry.com offers over 3600 instances of Abednego,
all but a handful >from England, Wales, former British colonies and other
parts of the US. The exceptions are >from Sweden, Norway and one Reformed
Church baptism in Hungary. Same story for the 25000+ Shadrachs--in fact,
I don't see *any* exceptions there.

Levi (George HUMPHREY's middle name) is used by Jews, but also used to
be very popular in England and Scotland.

As to Clifton College, there was >from 15 years after the school's
founding until recently a boarding house for Jewish boys, but it was one
of ten houses, so Clifton itself was neither founded nor ever intended
primarily for Jewish students.

To resolve this, I'd attempt to track down the sources of the family story.

Good luck--and let us know what you find!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 4/5/2014 8:36 AM, John Chitty wrote:
Hello Listers,
I wonder if any member can help me with a family mystery? I am keen family
historian and have traced several family links, but am at a loss as to how
to verify (or disprove) an old family story. My late mother used to talk
about my Dad's family being connected to the Jewish faith in some way but as
there had been a family estrangement I was never able to track down the
truth.

The history is this: My paternal grandmother, Sarah Ann Humphrey nee Davis
(1852-1944) was the daughter of Robert Davis and Ann (nee Reeves). Robert
Davis was a cab proprietor in London, and Ann's father was Levi Reeves, a
farmer >from Wiltshire. One of Sarah Ann's sons was named after his
great-grandfather and named George Levi Piercy Humphrey.

Sarah Ann's husband, Richard Humphrey, was at one time a tutor at Clifton
College in Bristol, which I believe was founded for Jewish students. Further
back in the family tree there are other males with what I believe to be
traditional Jewish names - e.g. Benjamin, Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego.

I have no idea how to trace Jewish families as my grandparents were married
in an Anglican church in London and since then the family have been of the
Anglican faith.

One of my queries is this - did Jewish marriages have to be "legalised" in
an Anglican church, as used to happen with Roman Catholics? Or have I got
the family history totally wrong? And did the Jewish religion sometimes
have to be practised in secret?

I do hope some kind person will be able to help me sort out the family
history. There are so few clues, but it may be that someone more skilled
than I am would be able to point me in the right direction for further
research.


Brooklyn Public Library finishes digitizing the Brooklyn Daily Eagle #general

Emily Garber
 

The Brooklyn Public Library has completed digitization of the Brooklyn
Daily Eagle newspaper through 1955 and has placed it online (hosted by
newspapers.com).

For a direct link to their search page:
http://newsstand.bklynpubliclibrary.org/

For a link to my blog post about using the database and images:
http://extrayad.blogspot.com/2014/04/soar-like-eagle-then-get-some-rest.html

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com
http://www.kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding possible Jewish family links #general

Roger Lustig
 

Dear Rose,
Welcome to the group, and thanks for your detailed exposition of your
interests.

According to Wikipedia, ">from the Marriage Act 1753 until 1837, only
marriages conducted by the Church of England, by Quakers, or Jewish
marriages, were recognised in England and Wales. This was changed by the
Marriage Act 1836 which, in addition to introducing civil marriage, also
allowed ministers of other faiths (Nonconformists and Roman Catholics)
to act as registrars." Before 1753 formal marriage was evidently not
required. So no, one would not look to an Anglican church register to
find Jewish marriages.

Was Judaism practiced clandestinely? Depends on where and when. Before
Oliver Cromwell's time, there were officially no Jews in England. Some
Conversos (Jews >from Spain who had publicly converted under duress but
maintained their faith in secret) settled in London and formed a
clandestine community there. After 1655 at least some Jewish settlement
was permitted. By the 18thC there were several synagogues and ever fewer
restrictions.

On the other hand, the vast majority of English Jews lived and still
live in cities, so it would have been unusual to find Jews in rural
farming communities. Not impossible; but unlikely.

Benjamin, Schadrach, Meschach/Meshack and Abednego are indeed
Old-Testament names. But the first of these is also a popular given name
among Gentiles in many countries, and the others are *not* commonly
found among Jews. The 1841 England census has almost 800 entries with
given name Shadrach or Shadrack, 150 Meshachs and almost 100 Abednegos.
(Over 40,000 Daniels, for those keeping score.)

Looking through lists of Jewish names, I can't find a single instance of
any of those names. Ancestry.com offers over 3600 instances of Abednego,
all but a handful >from England, Wales, former British colonies and other
parts of the US. The exceptions are >from Sweden, Norway and one Reformed
Church baptism in Hungary. Same story for the 25000+ Shadrachs--in fact,
I don't see *any* exceptions there.

Levi (George HUMPHREY's middle name) is used by Jews, but also used to
be very popular in England and Scotland.

As to Clifton College, there was >from 15 years after the school's
founding until recently a boarding house for Jewish boys, but it was one
of ten houses, so Clifton itself was neither founded nor ever intended
primarily for Jewish students.

To resolve this, I'd attempt to track down the sources of the family story.

Good luck--and let us know what you find!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 4/5/2014 8:36 AM, John Chitty wrote:
Hello Listers,
I wonder if any member can help me with a family mystery? I am keen family
historian and have traced several family links, but am at a loss as to how
to verify (or disprove) an old family story. My late mother used to talk
about my Dad's family being connected to the Jewish faith in some way but as
there had been a family estrangement I was never able to track down the
truth.

The history is this: My paternal grandmother, Sarah Ann Humphrey nee Davis
(1852-1944) was the daughter of Robert Davis and Ann (nee Reeves). Robert
Davis was a cab proprietor in London, and Ann's father was Levi Reeves, a
farmer >from Wiltshire. One of Sarah Ann's sons was named after his
great-grandfather and named George Levi Piercy Humphrey.

Sarah Ann's husband, Richard Humphrey, was at one time a tutor at Clifton
College in Bristol, which I believe was founded for Jewish students. Further
back in the family tree there are other males with what I believe to be
traditional Jewish names - e.g. Benjamin, Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego.

I have no idea how to trace Jewish families as my grandparents were married
in an Anglican church in London and since then the family have been of the
Anglican faith.

One of my queries is this - did Jewish marriages have to be "legalised" in
an Anglican church, as used to happen with Roman Catholics? Or have I got
the family history totally wrong? And did the Jewish religion sometimes
have to be practised in secret?

I do hope some kind person will be able to help me sort out the family
history. There are so few clues, but it may be that someone more skilled
than I am would be able to point me in the right direction for further
research.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn Public Library finishes digitizing the Brooklyn Daily Eagle #general

Emily Garber
 

The Brooklyn Public Library has completed digitization of the Brooklyn
Daily Eagle newspaper through 1955 and has placed it online (hosted by
newspapers.com).

For a direct link to their search page:
http://newsstand.bklynpubliclibrary.org/

For a link to my blog post about using the database and images:
http://extrayad.blogspot.com/2014/04/soar-like-eagle-then-get-some-rest.html

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com
http://www.kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html


Re: [Canada] Drouin Institute Places 1.3 Million Obituaries Online Free Access #general

Paul Silverstone
 

This is a great resource. But note that women are listed under their
maiden names and not their married names.

Paul Silverstone
New York

On 4/5/2014 3:06 AM, Jan Meisels Allen wrote:
The Drouin Institute has put online 1.3 million Quebec obituaries dating
from 1999 to the present-access is free. The obituaries have been collected
from 250 different internet sources. The records can be searched by name and
date of death. To access the website go to:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/avis-deces .

A list of other records on their website may be found at:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/about . The Drouin Institute is a
subscription site. Only the obituaries listed above have free access. More
information on The Drouin Institute may be found at:
http://www.drouininstitute.com/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: [Canada] Drouin Institute Places 1.3 Million Obituaries Online Free Access #general

Paul Silverstone
 

This is a great resource. But note that women are listed under their
maiden names and not their married names.

Paul Silverstone
New York

On 4/5/2014 3:06 AM, Jan Meisels Allen wrote:
The Drouin Institute has put online 1.3 million Quebec obituaries dating
from 1999 to the present-access is free. The obituaries have been collected
from 250 different internet sources. The records can be searched by name and
date of death. To access the website go to:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/avis-deces .

A list of other records on their website may be found at:
https://www.genealogiequebec.com/en/about . The Drouin Institute is a
subscription site. Only the obituaries listed above have free access. More
information on The Drouin Institute may be found at:
http://www.drouininstitute.com/


2nd Avenue Yiddish Theater #yiddish

holod@...
 

I have been researching my great grandfather Joseph Hershberg who is said to
have managed the 2nd Ave Theater in the early 1910s. He is buried with the
Yiddish Theatrical Society in Queens but I have not been able to find any
documentation on his connection with the theater.
Any help here would be great.


Preston Holod
516.859.1613
11 Park Place
Rockville Centre, NY 11570


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre 2nd Avenue Yiddish Theater #yiddish

holod@...
 

I have been researching my great grandfather Joseph Hershberg who is said to
have managed the 2nd Ave Theater in the early 1910s. He is buried with the
Yiddish Theatrical Society in Queens but I have not been able to find any
documentation on his connection with the theater.
Any help here would be great.


Preston Holod
516.859.1613
11 Park Place
Rockville Centre, NY 11570


Help finding COHEN & HAUS (HOUSE) in Russia #general

Scott Ehrlich <scott@...>
 

Greetings:

I am trying to learn about my maternal grandparents - Israel COHEN and
Rose/Chana HAUS/HOUSE COHEN.

According to a 1920 US Census, Israel and Rose House Cohen were born in Riga.

My mom vividly recalls Rose telling her Rose was >from Minsk or Pinsk.

A 1900 ship manifest - http://ehrlichtronics.com/manifest shows Israel
and Rose (Chane on the manifest) came >from Vilna, but that appears to
be false.

Israel and Rose, and their son, David and David's wife, also Rose, are
buried near me in Massachusetts -

Israel Cohen, died 1950 at age 74 in USA
Rose/Chane/Chana Cohen died 1964 at age 83 in USA

Israel's parents, according to his US death record, were Samuel COHEN and Marcia.

Rose/Chane/Chana's parents, according to her US death record, were Melvin House
and Toba.

Israel apparently had a brother, Josef, according to the 1900 ship manifest.

Israel and Rose had a son David. He is not listed on the ship manifest and
appears to have been born in Russia.

I have searched my ancestry.com and jewishgen accounts but cannot find
anything on David or the marriage of Israel and Rose/Chana. I am keeping my
mind open to the myriad of spellings for Israel, Cohen, House,
Chana/Chane/Rose and David, including using the "Sounds Like" or "SoundEx"
options in my searches.

I have tested with familytreedna and none of those matches are close enough
to help me.

I am seeking documentation (or family) who might have, or can show,
documented proof of Israel and Rose' marriage (which would help show where
they were married and the spelling of Rose' given and maiden names), or even
David's birth, to also reflect his parent's details.

It would also be great to find documented proof of Israel's parents having
Israel and David as children, but that is going one generation further.

Any email addresses or web sites I can reach out to or visit in Minsk
or Pinsk or elsewhere to help with this search?

David had a social security number and I am awaiting the original application
that would have been completed by he or his parents/family through the Social
Security Administration's Freedom of Information Act Request to see what it
might reveal.

I know this post is long, but I wanted to make it as complete as possible
with all relevant details.

Thank you all for any leads.

Scott Ehrlich, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Scott@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help finding COHEN & HAUS (HOUSE) in Russia #general

Scott Ehrlich <scott@...>
 

Greetings:

I am trying to learn about my maternal grandparents - Israel COHEN and
Rose/Chana HAUS/HOUSE COHEN.

According to a 1920 US Census, Israel and Rose House Cohen were born in Riga.

My mom vividly recalls Rose telling her Rose was >from Minsk or Pinsk.

A 1900 ship manifest - http://ehrlichtronics.com/manifest shows Israel
and Rose (Chane on the manifest) came >from Vilna, but that appears to
be false.

Israel and Rose, and their son, David and David's wife, also Rose, are
buried near me in Massachusetts -

Israel Cohen, died 1950 at age 74 in USA
Rose/Chane/Chana Cohen died 1964 at age 83 in USA

Israel's parents, according to his US death record, were Samuel COHEN and Marcia.

Rose/Chane/Chana's parents, according to her US death record, were Melvin House
and Toba.

Israel apparently had a brother, Josef, according to the 1900 ship manifest.

Israel and Rose had a son David. He is not listed on the ship manifest and
appears to have been born in Russia.

I have searched my ancestry.com and jewishgen accounts but cannot find
anything on David or the marriage of Israel and Rose/Chana. I am keeping my
mind open to the myriad of spellings for Israel, Cohen, House,
Chana/Chane/Rose and David, including using the "Sounds Like" or "SoundEx"
options in my searches.

I have tested with familytreedna and none of those matches are close enough
to help me.

I am seeking documentation (or family) who might have, or can show,
documented proof of Israel and Rose' marriage (which would help show where
they were married and the spelling of Rose' given and maiden names), or even
David's birth, to also reflect his parent's details.

It would also be great to find documented proof of Israel's parents having
Israel and David as children, but that is going one generation further.

Any email addresses or web sites I can reach out to or visit in Minsk
or Pinsk or elsewhere to help with this search?

David had a social security number and I am awaiting the original application
that would have been completed by he or his parents/family through the Social
Security Administration's Freedom of Information Act Request to see what it
might reveal.

I know this post is long, but I wanted to make it as complete as possible
with all relevant details.

Thank you all for any leads.

Scott Ehrlich, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Scott@...


Mollie TISCHLER, nee DAUST, descendants query #general

Martin Fischer
 

I recently received information >from a researcher that my first cousin twice
removed Mollie TISCHLER (nee DAUST) survived the Holocaust and managed to
move to Israel, where her children already lived.

Mollie TISCHLER was mentioned in the Berlin address books up to 1939, when,
at the age of 54 she was trying to make a living as a language teacher,
according to the researcher.

I am interested in making contact with any of her descendants in order to
exchange family history information.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois

Researching: DAUST/DAUS >from Wongrowitz, Posen, Prussia (now Wagrowiec, Pila,
Poland), Breslau in Lower Silesia, Germany (now Wroclaw, Poland), and Berlin,
Germany; TISCHLER, SACHS, KOPPENHAGEN, LEVY; FISCHER, KOBER, FOERDER,
GASTMAN/GUSTMAN, GELHORN; LEVIK, OSTROWSKI, KAGAN/COHEN, STEINBERG. For more
details, see my family history website at http://www.martinfischer.webs.com/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mollie TISCHLER, nee DAUST, descendants query #general

Martin Fischer
 

I recently received information >from a researcher that my first cousin twice
removed Mollie TISCHLER (nee DAUST) survived the Holocaust and managed to
move to Israel, where her children already lived.

Mollie TISCHLER was mentioned in the Berlin address books up to 1939, when,
at the age of 54 she was trying to make a living as a language teacher,
according to the researcher.

I am interested in making contact with any of her descendants in order to
exchange family history information.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois

Researching: DAUST/DAUS >from Wongrowitz, Posen, Prussia (now Wagrowiec, Pila,
Poland), Breslau in Lower Silesia, Germany (now Wroclaw, Poland), and Berlin,
Germany; TISCHLER, SACHS, KOPPENHAGEN, LEVY; FISCHER, KOBER, FOERDER,
GASTMAN/GUSTMAN, GELHORN; LEVIK, OSTROWSKI, KAGAN/COHEN, STEINBERG. For more
details, see my family history website at http://www.martinfischer.webs.com/


2 Viewmate translation requests - German (possibly Polish) #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

Fellow genealogy researchers,

I've posted 2 vital records for which it would greatly help to have
translations. The first is a death record for Henie STRASFELD, who I believe
to be my great-great-great-grandmother.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33030

The second is a death record for Hersch STRASFELD, who I believe was my
great-grandfather's brother.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33029

Thank you very much.

Dave Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina
davestra@...

researching STRASFELD/STREISFELD

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond either via ViewMate or via email directly to Dave.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2 Viewmate translation requests - German (possibly Polish) #general

davestra@ymail.com <davestra@...>
 

Fellow genealogy researchers,

I've posted 2 vital records for which it would greatly help to have
translations. The first is a death record for Henie STRASFELD, who I believe
to be my great-great-great-grandmother.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33030

The second is a death record for Hersch STRASFELD, who I believe was my
great-grandfather's brother.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM33029

Thank you very much.

Dave Strausfeld
Durham, North Carolina
davestra@...

researching STRASFELD/STREISFELD

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond either via ViewMate or via email directly to Dave.


INTRO: Researching HANELLIN/GANELIN and Variations #ukraine

Liz Hanellin
 

Dear Ukraine SIG,

My last name is HANELLIN. My paternal grandfather Abraham's family was >from Ekaterinoslav, but I don't know whether >from the town or the gubernia. Abraham came to the U.S.A as an infant, with his parents and seven brothers (another brother was born here). They came in two batches -- in 1903 as HANELUN via Antwerp and in 1904 as HANELIN via Bremen. Abraham's parents were Saul/Sol (Schewel) and Clara (Chasse) (nee CHAIKIN), but I do not know the names of their parents. (As of yet, I have not been able to locate Saul and Clara's burial locations in the New York area, but I haven't lost hope and perhaps their stones will give me information as to their father's names).

Our name is pronounced with an emphasis on the first syllable; however, I was always told that in Russian it was pronounced as GANELIN or GANYELIN, with an emphasis on the second syllable.


On the manifest of some of the family members who came over together, their town of residence is listed as Sedrinska. I am assuming this is the shtetl of Shchedrin, in Belarus, and not the town in Siberia, Shadrinsk. So, the family must have traveled or moved to Shchedrin on their way to moving to America. I also found the names GANELIN or GANELLAN listed on the Shchadryn (Shchedrin) Kehilah Link. Perhaps they had family there. On the manifest of the remaining family members, their residence is listed as Cota which might be Ekaterinoslav, perhaps unspellable by an official who didn't speak Russian and was in a hurry.

I have found enlistment records for a few of the brothers here in the U.S. that list their birthplace as either Ekaterinoslav (WWI enlistment papers) or Dnipropetrovsk (WWII enlistment papers), so it seems that they identified themselves as coming >from there and that Shchedrin was a temporary residence.

The only other family lore I have is that the family were inn owners at some point, something I find no doubt inappropriately romantic.


Could anyone make any suggestions as to a good starting point for my research? And if there are any HANELLIN/GANELIN researchers out there, I'd love to hear >from you. CHAIKIN too.

Thanks,

Liz Hanellin, New York City
liz_hanellin@...

Also researching: SHUKET >from Lypovets, Kiev


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine INTRO: Researching HANELLIN/GANELIN and Variations #ukraine

Liz Hanellin
 

Dear Ukraine SIG,

My last name is HANELLIN. My paternal grandfather Abraham's family was >from Ekaterinoslav, but I don't know whether >from the town or the gubernia. Abraham came to the U.S.A as an infant, with his parents and seven brothers (another brother was born here). They came in two batches -- in 1903 as HANELUN via Antwerp and in 1904 as HANELIN via Bremen. Abraham's parents were Saul/Sol (Schewel) and Clara (Chasse) (nee CHAIKIN), but I do not know the names of their parents. (As of yet, I have not been able to locate Saul and Clara's burial locations in the New York area, but I haven't lost hope and perhaps their stones will give me information as to their father's names).

Our name is pronounced with an emphasis on the first syllable; however, I was always told that in Russian it was pronounced as GANELIN or GANYELIN, with an emphasis on the second syllable.


On the manifest of some of the family members who came over together, their town of residence is listed as Sedrinska. I am assuming this is the shtetl of Shchedrin, in Belarus, and not the town in Siberia, Shadrinsk. So, the family must have traveled or moved to Shchedrin on their way to moving to America. I also found the names GANELIN or GANELLAN listed on the Shchadryn (Shchedrin) Kehilah Link. Perhaps they had family there. On the manifest of the remaining family members, their residence is listed as Cota which might be Ekaterinoslav, perhaps unspellable by an official who didn't speak Russian and was in a hurry.

I have found enlistment records for a few of the brothers here in the U.S. that list their birthplace as either Ekaterinoslav (WWI enlistment papers) or Dnipropetrovsk (WWII enlistment papers), so it seems that they identified themselves as coming >from there and that Shchedrin was a temporary residence.

The only other family lore I have is that the family were inn owners at some point, something I find no doubt inappropriately romantic.


Could anyone make any suggestions as to a good starting point for my research? And if there are any HANELLIN/GANELIN researchers out there, I'd love to hear >from you. CHAIKIN too.

Thanks,

Liz Hanellin, New York City
liz_hanellin@...

Also researching: SHUKET >from Lypovets, Kiev


Seeking families: SLOIME/ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD/ROSEN/LEIBA/ZAHARIA #romania

Julie Rosenfield
 

Hi

I'm trying to trace the family tree of my ancestors >from Iasi, Romania and
wondered if anyone could help. The details I have are as follows:

My great-grandfather Sam ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Smil SLOIME) was born in
Iasi, Romania in 1861. His wife, my great-grandmother Rachel
ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (married name in Iasi, Rasel SLOIME), was born in
1864. I do not know her maiden name.

I can find no trace of a birth certificate for Smil SLOIME or a marriage
certificate for Smil and Rasel SLOIME and would dearly love to be able to
find these.

My grandfather, their son Jack ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Yanchel SLOIME)
was born in Iasi, Romania on 1887. His older sister Clara
ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Clara SLOIME and later became Clara ROSEN when
she married Isaac ROSEN in Manchester) was born 2 or 3 years earlier.

The family lived at 47 Eternitatea Street, Iasi, Romania.

Also listed as living in the same building are the witnesses on my
grandfather, Yanchel SLOIME'S (later Jack ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD) birth
certificate in 1887.

I don't know if they were related to my family or not but would love to
find out.

Their names were:

Moise ZAHARIA, sixty five years of age, tailor (He would have been born in
1822)
Itic LEIBA, twenty-two years of age, profession shoemaker (He would have
been born in 1865).
Leiba, son of LEIBA, thirty years of age, profession water-carrier (He would
have been born in 1857).

The SLOIME family came to London some time before 1901 where they changed
their name to ROSENFELD and later to Manchester where it was changed to
ROSENFIELD.

If anyone has any information about any of the above, I would be most
interested to hear >from you.

Many thanks
Julie Rosenfield


Romania SIG #Romania Seeking families: SLOIME/ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD/ROSEN/LEIBA/ZAHARIA #romania

Julie Rosenfield
 

Hi

I'm trying to trace the family tree of my ancestors >from Iasi, Romania and
wondered if anyone could help. The details I have are as follows:

My great-grandfather Sam ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Smil SLOIME) was born in
Iasi, Romania in 1861. His wife, my great-grandmother Rachel
ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (married name in Iasi, Rasel SLOIME), was born in
1864. I do not know her maiden name.

I can find no trace of a birth certificate for Smil SLOIME or a marriage
certificate for Smil and Rasel SLOIME and would dearly love to be able to
find these.

My grandfather, their son Jack ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Yanchel SLOIME)
was born in Iasi, Romania on 1887. His older sister Clara
ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD (born Clara SLOIME and later became Clara ROSEN when
she married Isaac ROSEN in Manchester) was born 2 or 3 years earlier.

The family lived at 47 Eternitatea Street, Iasi, Romania.

Also listed as living in the same building are the witnesses on my
grandfather, Yanchel SLOIME'S (later Jack ROSENFELD/ROSENFIELD) birth
certificate in 1887.

I don't know if they were related to my family or not but would love to
find out.

Their names were:

Moise ZAHARIA, sixty five years of age, tailor (He would have been born in
1822)
Itic LEIBA, twenty-two years of age, profession shoemaker (He would have
been born in 1865).
Leiba, son of LEIBA, thirty years of age, profession water-carrier (He would
have been born in 1857).

The SLOIME family came to London some time before 1901 where they changed
their name to ROSENFELD and later to Manchester where it was changed to
ROSENFIELD.

If anyone has any information about any of the above, I would be most
interested to hear >from you.

Many thanks
Julie Rosenfield