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Request for Your Assistance on Learning About Archive Access Problems For Holocaust and Holocaust Era Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR: Please respond to Jan privately, unless you have
information about specific research techniques and/or resources
that might be useful to others.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Request for Your Assistance on Learning About Archive Access Problems For Holocaust and Holocaust Era Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR: Please respond to Jan privately, unless you have
information about specific research techniques and/or resources
that might be useful to others.


How to find certificate number? #general

Puffins@...
 

Hello,

I know that my gr grandfather Sam (Hyman) KROENDELL or KROENDEL died Nov.
25, 1917 in NYC. HIs headstone is in Washington Cemetery along with his wife
Dora and son Jack.

I have the date but I need a certificate number to order the death
certificate >from familysearch.org.
I can't find him on Italiangen.org. Do you have any suggestions as to how
to get this certificate number? Could there be a reason it is not there on
italiangen.org?

Sam immigrated in 1890 but the family is only listed on the 1910 census. I
also can't find him on a manifest. I have a feeling that the name was
poorly written or badly spelled.

Any suggestions you can offer that would help me order this death
certificate would be very helpful. I am specifically looking for his
parents' names.

Thank you very much,
Donna Eschen
California

MODERATOR NOTE: To make it easier for others to discover possible links,
please use capitals for the names of families you are researching.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to find certificate number? #general

Puffins@...
 

Hello,

I know that my gr grandfather Sam (Hyman) KROENDELL or KROENDEL died Nov.
25, 1917 in NYC. HIs headstone is in Washington Cemetery along with his wife
Dora and son Jack.

I have the date but I need a certificate number to order the death
certificate >from familysearch.org.
I can't find him on Italiangen.org. Do you have any suggestions as to how
to get this certificate number? Could there be a reason it is not there on
italiangen.org?

Sam immigrated in 1890 but the family is only listed on the 1910 census. I
also can't find him on a manifest. I have a feeling that the name was
poorly written or badly spelled.

Any suggestions you can offer that would help me order this death
certificate would be very helpful. I am specifically looking for his
parents' names.

Thank you very much,
Donna Eschen
California

MODERATOR NOTE: To make it easier for others to discover possible links,
please use capitals for the names of families you are researching.


Re: Schedrin #belarus

Benjamin, Sheldon <Sheldon.Benjamin@...>
 

Re:Schedrin question

I'm sending this to entire list because it's so interesting. Schedrin was
one of a few towns in the pale owned by Jews, more or less. The most prominent
and possibly the largest Jewish family was named GOLODETZ-they were lumber
merchants. A booklet in Hebrew and English is available called The History
of the Family Golodetz. I read it at the YIVO library in the late 70s I think.
I'm on the road now but likely have a copy at home if you can't locate one.

My guess is that is the origin of a family name of Holod >from SCHEDRIN.

Sheldon Benjamin
BENTZIANOV of Varatin, Bel
REVZEN of Streshin, Bel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Schedrin #belarus

Benjamin, Sheldon <Sheldon.Benjamin@...>
 

Re:Schedrin question

I'm sending this to entire list because it's so interesting. Schedrin was
one of a few towns in the pale owned by Jews, more or less. The most prominent
and possibly the largest Jewish family was named GOLODETZ-they were lumber
merchants. A booklet in Hebrew and English is available called The History
of the Family Golodetz. I read it at the YIVO library in the late 70s I think.
I'm on the road now but likely have a copy at home if you can't locate one.

My guess is that is the origin of a family name of Holod >from SCHEDRIN.

Sheldon Benjamin
BENTZIANOV of Varatin, Bel
REVZEN of Streshin, Bel


Request for Your Assistance on Learning About Archive Access Problems For Holocaust and Holocaust Era Records #belarus

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Belarus SIG #Belarus Request for Your Assistance on Learning About Archive Access Problems For Holocaust and Holocaust Era Records #belarus

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Dear Jewish Genealogist:

I will be talking in Europe in June on access to Holocaust and Holocaust era
records. I am asking you for your assistance on problems you may have
incurred when trying to access these Holocaust records. Not all records are
birth, marriage, death or census records. These records could be
institutional records, passport, transit visas, concentration camp records,
property records, art works and other similar documents. With respect to
access to archives, either in person or by written communication, had you
encountered problems or obstacles with respect to the availability of the
records. I do not mean if the records are not on the Internet and
therefore, they are not accessible >from the comfort on our homes.

The scope of this covers not only vital records >from 1860-1948-the time
frame people in the holocaust may have been alive to just after the
Holocaust and includes displaced persons camp records. We need to know who
was there in order to know who is no longer there- which is why I am also
asking about records that would tell us who was alive at the time-i.e.
starting in the 1860's--the outside date of someone still alive in
1939-1945. If you know the person died before the Holocaust please do not
reply that you can't get their records-this if for people alive at the
beginning of the Holocaust. I am looking for information on access
problems-whether a government agency or private archive ignored your
request, refused access to the records, the records were not researchable
when at the archives, the cost of obtaining the records was prohibitive, in
other words obstacles you may have encountered >from a government archive or
private archive for archival documents that cover the Holocaust or Holocaust
era type governments.

I would appreciate if you would get back to me back with the following: name
of country, archive and the type of access problem you incurred. We
recognize that some countries have specific time embargoes before records
may be accessible--and that is an access impediment that can be submitted. I
would appreciate your objective comments and not "complaints" as we need to
know where and what the problems are before we can try to get changes.

On the other hand, if you had a positive experience I would also like to
hear about that as positive examples to show others is helpful.

I would appreciate hearing >from you before April 30.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Jan


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Schedrin Minsk #belarus

Preston Holod <holod@...>
 

My greatgrandfather and grandfather emigrated >from Schedrin in 1903 and
1905. Their surname is in question. My greatgrandfather Harry (Hillel) was
said to have changed his surname to escape the Russian draft. He married my
greatgrandmother Rose (Raisel) and were said to be cousins. He settled on
the name Holod but I do not believe that name appears in Schedrin Records.
I am aware that there were 4,022 in a Schedrin census of 1897 but have not
been able to locate the list to compare first names and possibly locate my
family.

I am wondering whether this information is available or if anyone else has
any ideas how I can continue my research. Any Help would be appreciated.
Thank you.

Preston Holod


Belarus SIG #Belarus Schedrin Minsk #belarus

Preston Holod <holod@...>
 

My greatgrandfather and grandfather emigrated >from Schedrin in 1903 and
1905. Their surname is in question. My greatgrandfather Harry (Hillel) was
said to have changed his surname to escape the Russian draft. He married my
greatgrandmother Rose (Raisel) and were said to be cousins. He settled on
the name Holod but I do not believe that name appears in Schedrin Records.
I am aware that there were 4,022 in a Schedrin census of 1897 but have not
been able to locate the list to compare first names and possibly locate my
family.

I am wondering whether this information is available or if anyone else has
any ideas how I can continue my research. Any Help would be appreciated.
Thank you.

Preston Holod


Russian old dates convert, YES or NO? #belarus

Allan Karan
 

What is the standard for Genealogy?

Should I convert old Russian dates for family marriages, births, deaths and
other events while they were living in Russia?

I have Russian family documents >from 1900-1910 that have the old Russian
dates right up to departure to the US. The last date shown on a Russian
Passport is June 22, 1910 and when converted is July 5, 1910, the date shown
on the ship's manifest for them sailing.

When they arrived in the US my farther used the converted date for his
birthday, but his brother kept his birthday in the old Russian date.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;
Chepeli; Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN from
Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Russian old dates convert, YES or NO? #belarus

Allan Karan
 

What is the standard for Genealogy?

Should I convert old Russian dates for family marriages, births, deaths and
other events while they were living in Russia?

I have Russian family documents >from 1900-1910 that have the old Russian
dates right up to departure to the US. The last date shown on a Russian
Passport is June 22, 1910 and when converted is July 5, 1910, the date shown
on the ship's manifest for them sailing.

When they arrived in the US my farther used the converted date for his
birthday, but his brother kept his birthday in the old Russian date.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;
Chepeli; Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN from
Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@...


Descendants of Alta and Berl KAPLAN #belarus

Israel P
 

My maternal grandmother had a sister Alta Rosenbloom, born
about 1880 in Borisov. She married a man named Berl KAPLAN.
They had three sons and a daughter. Two of the sons are
Jakob and Baruch-Yosef and the daughter is Etta Bryna.

We have a Russian photograph >from the mid-1920s without Berl
and he may have been dead already.

Jakob and one of the other brothers each had a daughter
before contact was lost in 1930.

Alta's parents are Israel David (my namesake) and Etta Bryna
who died when her children were young.

Sunday, my g-gm's yahrzeit, I opened a Facebook page called
"Etta Bryna's Descendants" to which I have invited descendants
of my grandmother and her brother. I would love to find some
descendants of Alta KAPLAN as well.
(Two other sisters died in the US with no children.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
blogging weekly at http://allmyforeparents.blogspot.com


IAJGS Awards Nominations #belarus

Harvey Glasner <hsglasner@...>
 

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
is now accepting applications for their annual awards.

They include:

1. IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award

2. Outstanding contribution to Jewish Genealogy via the Internet,
Print or Electronic Product

3. Outstanding Publication by an IAJGS member organization

4. Outstanding Programming or Project that Advanced the Objectives of
Jewish Genealogy

All four Awards must be nominated by an IAJGS member organization,
although it is not uncommon for individuals or other organizations to
provide letters supporting the nomination. The deadline for
nominations has been extended to May 15. A full explanation of the
Awards and the nomination process can be found at
http://www.iajgs.org/awards/awards.html.

Note: It is permissible for an individual to put forth a nomination or
for a member to self-nominate.

Harvey Glasner
Awards Committee Chairperson


Belarus SIG #Belarus Descendants of Alta and Berl KAPLAN #belarus

Israel P
 

My maternal grandmother had a sister Alta Rosenbloom, born
about 1880 in Borisov. She married a man named Berl KAPLAN.
They had three sons and a daughter. Two of the sons are
Jakob and Baruch-Yosef and the daughter is Etta Bryna.

We have a Russian photograph >from the mid-1920s without Berl
and he may have been dead already.

Jakob and one of the other brothers each had a daughter
before contact was lost in 1930.

Alta's parents are Israel David (my namesake) and Etta Bryna
who died when her children were young.

Sunday, my g-gm's yahrzeit, I opened a Facebook page called
"Etta Bryna's Descendants" to which I have invited descendants
of my grandmother and her brother. I would love to find some
descendants of Alta KAPLAN as well.
(Two other sisters died in the US with no children.)

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
blogging weekly at http://allmyforeparents.blogspot.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus IAJGS Awards Nominations #belarus

Harvey Glasner <hsglasner@...>
 

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
is now accepting applications for their annual awards.

They include:

1. IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award

2. Outstanding contribution to Jewish Genealogy via the Internet,
Print or Electronic Product

3. Outstanding Publication by an IAJGS member organization

4. Outstanding Programming or Project that Advanced the Objectives of
Jewish Genealogy

All four Awards must be nominated by an IAJGS member organization,
although it is not uncommon for individuals or other organizations to
provide letters supporting the nomination. The deadline for
nominations has been extended to May 15. A full explanation of the
Awards and the nomination process can be found at
http://www.iajgs.org/awards/awards.html.

Note: It is permissible for an individual to put forth a nomination or
for a member to self-nominate.

Harvey Glasner
Awards Committee Chairperson


ViewMate Translation Request - Polish #poland

Jeff Jacobs
 

I have posted four records on ViewMate, for which I would very much
appreciate translations. Please use the ViewMate form.

The images are at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33116
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33117
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33118
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33119

Thank you.

Jeff Jacobs
Columbia, SC USA


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate Translation Request - Polish #poland

Jeff Jacobs
 

I have posted four records on ViewMate, for which I would very much
appreciate translations. Please use the ViewMate form.

The images are at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33116
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33117
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33118
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=33119

Thank you.

Jeff Jacobs
Columbia, SC USA


Congregations in London's East End & City (update from JCR-UK Webmaster) #unitedkingdom

Webmaster JCR-UK
 

Please note that the JCR-UK webpages for each of the nearly 150 Jewish
congregations in London's East End & City (listed on
http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/East_End_London.htm) have
recently been enhanced, to include, amongst other things, a
description of the location of the congregation, details of the former
local, district and parish authorities and registration districts and,
where known, details of marriage registers.

If anyone had any additional information or corrections, I would
delighted to hear >from you.

All comments are welcome.

Regards

David Shulman
Webmaster JCR-UK
Ra'anana, Israel
email: @JCRUK and jcr-ukwebmaster@...


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Congregations in London's East End & City (update from JCR-UK Webmaster) #unitedkingdom

Webmaster JCR-UK
 

Please note that the JCR-UK webpages for each of the nearly 150 Jewish
congregations in London's East End & City (listed on
http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/East_End_London.htm) have
recently been enhanced, to include, amongst other things, a
description of the location of the congregation, details of the former
local, district and parish authorities and registration districts and,
where known, details of marriage registers.

If anyone had any additional information or corrections, I would
delighted to hear >from you.

All comments are welcome.

Regards

David Shulman
Webmaster JCR-UK
Ra'anana, Israel
email: @JCRUK and jcr-ukwebmaster@...