Re: Otto WEISZ, Vienna


Hi Harvey

On familysearch I found the marriage record of Moritz Weisz and Beatrice Alice Goldstein.
I also found the marriage record of Rosalia Weisz and Ernest Kreisler.

But I didnt' find the marriage record of Rosalia Weisz with a man named Schmoll.
I also didnt' find the marriage record of David Weisz and Rosa Fener or Feuer.
I also didnt' find the marriage record of Charlotte Weisz and Dr. Ernest Karman.

But on familysearch I found two passenger manifests for this Dr. Ernest Karman.
One on the steamship Orduna, November/December 1921 and another on the steamship Olympic, February 1924.

By the way in 1912 Dr. Ernest Karman and his wife Charlotte were in Karlsbad at the same time as the famous composer Giacomo Puccini!

Corinne Iten

Searching for Joseph Bernard Friedman #courland #latvia

Friedman, H George

My great grandfather was Joseph Bernard Friedman.  I cannot get any further back than about 1870.  Please bear with me through this long plea for help.

I have two levels of information about him: family lore, and documented.

Family lore is that he emigrated to New York before the Civil War, enlisted in the Union Army, and eventually mustered out in the south, where he lived the rest of his life.  I have been able to verify some of this.

Documentation begins with his first marriage in 1870 in St Louis to Tillie Peiser.  They settled in Holly Springs, MS (1870 US Census).  By early 1871, they settled permanently in Boutte, St. Charles Parish, LA, where he was appointed Postmaster in 1872, and held several parish (county) offices from time to time.  They had five children: an infant who lived only a few days, then Miriam, Ettie/Esther, William/Willie, and Eva.  Tillie died in 1878, apparently in childbirth (the inscription on her tombstone implies that there is an infant buried with her).  Joseph (J. B.) married Bertha Reichenberg in 1880; I have her genealogy well documented, including collaboration with other Reichenbergs both in the USA and in Germany.  They had four more children, including my grandfather, Harry Friedman.

J.  B. was assassinated in 1888, an event which is well documented in newspapers and other sources.  He, both of his wives, and his eldest daughter Miriam are buried in Gates of Prayer Canal Street Cemetery in New Orleans.

The census reports of J. B. claim he was born in Prussia c. 1840 (1870 census) and Kurland c. 1841 (1880 census), which makes sense.  His birthday is given on his gravestone as 21 Jan 1841, and in several primary records (e.g., his marriage license with Bertha, his second wife) as 1841.

I have searched for his military records, but am frustrated by the fact that there were numerous Joseph Friedmans in the Union Army, with no way to distinguish among them.

I have searched for his emigration to the USA, which yields four hits in in 1857 and 1858 for a Joseph Friedman, one from Bremerhaven, one from Hamburg, and two from Le Havre.  But again, there isn't enough information to decide which, if any, is my GGF.

Thank you for reading this long message.  Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.

George Friedman

Need Help Reading Town Name on Ship’s Manifest #galicia #records

Linda Habenstreit

My paternal grandmother Ernestina STECKMAN immigrated to the United States from Rotterdam on the SS Ryndam on October 7, 1911. She is the second person listed on the ship’s manifest. See Ancestry.comURL below.

I have searched the JewishGen Communities database for the town/city that is listed as her last permanent residence. I cannot find this town. 

Can anyone read this Manifest and figure out the town/city where she last resided? I would very much appreciate any assistance provided. Thank you!

Linda Habenstreit
Springfield, VA
HEBENSTREIT from Belzec/Rawa Ruska, Galicia, Austria
REITZFELD from Rawa Ruska, Galicia, Austria
STECKMAN from Husiatyn, Galicia, Austria 
BECKER from unknown Galicia, Austria

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from? #general


This is a question I've had forever, so thanks for posting it.

Re Gallego, I have a friend who grew up in Galicia, and learned from her that the language is mutually intelligible with Spanish, but more in the sense that if you speak Portuguese (which Gallego resembles closely--no surprise, since it borders Portugal) or Italian you can get the gist of it, and vice versa.  Also, people in Galicia didn't have much choice to learn Spanish. Growing up under Franco she and her friends were not permitted to speak Gallego in school; if they did, they were punished.  Tout ca change ...
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements


I looked at the New York Times story referenced and read in it with some amusement that GEDMATCH "contacted the F.B.I. to see if the agency would investigate" and "The F.B.I. did not respond to a request for comment."  Why would it, since the F.B.I. is one of the law enforcement organizations that would benefit from broad access to commercial DNA databases, and may even already have done so?

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

Hungarian Research Division Virtual Meeting Wednesday August 12 #announcements #hungary

Vivian Kahn

Sziasztok barátok! Greetings friends!!

The JewishGen Hungarian /Research Division (formerly the Hungarian SIG) will meet virtually on Wednesday, August 12, from 11:15 am - 12:15 am, U.S. Eastern time.

I’ll will be giving a presentation on the Division’s recent and upcoming activities including updates to the Hungarian database. You do NOT have to be a paid conference attendee to join in. However, whether or not you’ve paid for the conference, you do need to register to attend this and other “Free Access Sessions.” Please read more below.


Go to the Attendee Service Center on the conference website (, sign in, and select “Update Your Info.” Then click “Edit” and page through your registration until you reach the listing of free sessions. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.


If you have not registered for the conference and want to have access to SIG and BOF meetings and other free events, go to and register for the Virtual Limited Access Conference. Select your choices, then be sure to continue to the end of the registration to save them.

If you have already registered for limited free access but did not select the meetings you want to attend, please go back and edit your registration to include your choices. Follow through to the end of the registration to save them.

For more information about the conference see or . Registration questions/problems? Contact registration@....

Vivian Kahn
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director
Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
Researching families including:
BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ. Avas Ujvaros, Hungary/Orasu Nou, Romania
KAHAN/JOSIPOVITS/DUB, Sziget, Kabolacsarda, Nagyvarad, Hungary/Sighet, Ciarda, Oradea, Romania
KOHN/Zbegnyo/ Zbehnov, Tarnoka/Trnavka, Slovakia; Cleveland  LEFKOVITS/Kolbasa/Brezina, Slovakia
MOSKOVITS/Honkocz, Szobranc, Osztro, Kassa, Hungary/Chonkovce, Sobrance, Ostrov, Kosice, Slov., Nyiregyhaza, Hungary
ELOVITS/Hornya, Hungary/Horna, Slovakia
NEUMANN/Szeretva, Kereszt, Nagymihaly, Miskolc, Hung./Sobrance, Kristy, Stretavka, Michalovce, Slov. 
POLACSEK/Hunfalu, Hungary/Huncovce, Slovakia
SPITZ/Nikolsburg/Mikulov, Prosnitz/Prostejov, Moravia/Czech Republic; Kismarton/Eisenstadt, Hungary/Austria; Hunfalu,Hungary//Huncovce, Slovakia

Re: Beltsy Birth Records #bessarabia #records


I can't help because I can't read Cyrillic.

But, I am very interested in the results.
My grandfather's brother Itzka Barer claimed to have been born in Beltsy.

Re: Ancestry purchased by Blacksone #announcements

Shelley Mitchell

One of the interesting aspects about the purchase of Ancestry by Blackstone is the history of both. In 2016, GIC, a Singapore state company, with Silver Lake, were the majority owners. Before this purchase, China sold its modest interest in Blackstone. Blackstone is still a multinational and operates from the US.

Re: Online trees #general


I have had my trees on FamilySearch, wikitree, my heritage and probably others. No issues found family, found documents. But recently FamilySearch has recruited "volunteers" who now add whatever they want to my tree. Some of their information is correct, but some is not. They add the information without approval, and sometimes with very poor research. I was furious. I spent at least an hour removing their finds, including relatives they gave me that were not mine. I am now thinking of removing everything from FamilySearch.

Searching:TSIBULSKY #ukraine


My great-grandfather's name was Feivel Tsibulsky (Zibulsky?). He perished with his second wife during the holocaust. They died as martyrs, heroically, and I need information to proceed with a search. I cannot find any records of them. I know they lived in Kodima (Kodyma?), in the Ukraine. I am trying to find out given names,  birthdate (or assumed birthdate), where they may have lived prior to the war, or anything else. His daughter, my maternal grandmother, was Mania (Manya?), married to Max Gorbaty.
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Seeking Lasutra family #general #photographs


It is a very rare surname so everybody must be related. I've copied everything that can be found on the USHMM and Ancestry web site. For some reason, the name does not show in SSDI, perhaps it has changed. Israeli sources still have to be checked.

My mother's aunt told me, some 30 years ago, that Lasutras emigrated to America. Just yesterday, a different version was presented by her daughter who remembers packages "from Palestine". Maybe, the Lasutras emigrated to both places. Mother's relatives stopped corresponding in the late 40's-early 50's. A man from their shtetl, remembered now only by his first name, Falik, was put on trial and sentenced to hard labor for corresponding with relatives abroad. My mother's uncle got scared to death and tore up all letters, envelopes, pictures, etc. so the contact was lost. They all lived in a small town of Pulin (also known as Chervonoarmejsk), but the story was repeated many times throughout the land of victorious socialism. Another example that comes to mind is my parents' neighbor in Zhitomir by the name of Meyerovich who was sentenced to hard labor for listening to the Voice of America, also ca. 1950.

A side project: if you are interested in Pulin, I organized photography of all remaining tombstones at the Pulin cemetery. The project is currently underway.

So, has anybody crossed paths with a Lasutra or heard this name?

Thank you!



Boris Feldblyum
FAST Genealogy Service

Re: Zibulsky family #ukraine


Thank you for your interesting etymology, Dr. Ash. My family - so far as I am aware - never made it to Germany, so I don't think that could be part of the equation, (although I could be wrong). The surname could be a nonsense word, as sometimes happened in Russia, also explaining why onion may be in there too. I know very little about the name otherwise. As for the Cyrillic spelling to Latin I don't know that either. I will take your suggestion and try to search with "Tsibulsky". (I think I have seen that spelling somewhere, too.) Thank you!

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from?#general

Alexander Sharon


In Ukrainian Galicia is known as Halychyna - there is the relation between Halych and Halychyna. 
In year 1206 Hungarian king Andrew II, following occupation of The Duchy of Halicia adopted title Rex Galiciae et Lodomeriae. This title was used by other Hungarian kings and Austrian monarchs who inherited Hungarian crown. At the beginning of 14th century the Duchy of Halicia became part of The Kingdom of Poland.

Re: Where did the term Galitziana come from?#general


Halych: the H & G are cognates between Polish and Russian.

I have read that Halych referred to the salt mines in Polish Galicia, But it could also refer, as the Spanish place does, to Celtic Gauls who lived there at some point. 

A quick on-line search will provide more information.

Re: 1940 USA census what does an X in a circle mean? #records

Sally Bruckheimer

The X by some person's name on the census means that is the person that the census taker talked to and got information from.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Otto WEISZ, Vienna


Hi Harvey

The BMD records of the IKG Wien are online on familysearch, also the Wiener Meldezettel (registry records of the inhabitants).

The Wienbibliothek (Library of Vienna) has the Lehmann city directories online.

The Austrian national Library has several newspapers of Vienna online.

Death of Dr. David Weisz, Lindengasse 4, Wien VII, 27. December 1918, he came from the Komitat Tolna in Hungary

Death of Ignatz Weisz, 3. October 1900, father of Dr. David Weisz. There are listed other children of Ignatz (siblings of David).

Death of Fanny Weisz (née Taussig), 11. August 1909, mother of Dr. David Weisz. There are listed other children of Fanny (siblings of David).

Corinne Iten

Re: Nussdorfs brothers-Hungary or Berlin #germany #hungary

Judy Petersen

Hi Barbara,
     Should we assume you have checked JewishGen's All Hungary Database?  There are a few NUSZDORF names there, mostly from Galicia, but also a few in Putnok, Hungary.
     Do you have access to MACSE?  There are 3 NUSSDORF listings there.  One for Sara, daughter of Tillie NUSSDORF, who married Chaim ROSENBERG, one for their daughter Sarolta who married Rezso TOLMAR, and one for their daughter Regina (birth record).  Henrik STORCH is mentioned on all of these records.
     Have you considered checking NUS[S]DORFER or NUSZDORFER?  There are about 30 records for these surnames on MACSE, but they all seem to be Roman Catholic.  Still, perhaps the family converted....???
     There are also a few Jewish NUSSDORF records on the GenTeam (Vienna records) site.  Did some family stay in the area?

                   Judy Petersen

Re: Seeking any and all information on Max Koenig and Hannah (Morgenstern)Koenig #usa


Hi All Max was born about 1863-65, and his second wife Hannah/Anna Morgenstern was ten years younger than him and was born about 1875. I have a few death dates from the online death index, but have no way of knowing if it's him. I will list them below. Any and all help is appreciated.
Max Koenig Age 74 died in Bronx 12/22/1941 #11665
Max Koenig Age 79 died in queens 1/24/1942 #794
Max Konick age 84 died in kings 4/23/1945 #8594
Anna Koenig Age 73 died in Bronx 2/20/1948 #1992

Sarah Greenberg(USA)

Re: Online trees #general

Max Heffler

Geni most certainly has a Sources tab for each profile and one random one I pulled up has links to 1920 and 1930 censuses. There is also a Media tab for each profile, Discussion, Revisions, etc…


From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Alan Ehrlich via
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] Online trees #general


Sorry, however that’s not my experience with geni. (i.e., ”like open source code progressively more correct”... not). In my opinion, a more accurate simile might be: ’like a camel is a horse put together by a committee... And there aren’t sources’.

Alan Ehrlich


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Belarus Meeting at the IAJGS Conference #belarus #announcements


I think you meant to say meeting will be at 245p EDT ( Eastern daylight time.). It’s summer and the conference is running on EDT 

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