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Sheftel family from Kratinga, Kovno, Russia
#russia
perimeters
I would like help researching my Sheftel/Sheftelovitz family line. I have successfully traced it back to Mordechai Joshua Sheftelowitz (1812-1886) married to Fanny. One of his sons is Michael Sheftelowitz, who became a naturalized British Citizen 4 April 1897,
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Sarah L Meyer
Many years ago I tried to use DNAGedCom and it blew up because I had so many Jewish matches (all 4 of my grandparents were Jewish). So try it but be aware that if there are a lot of matches it may crash your system. Unfortunately we Jews have fewer records, and shorter surname history - and more matches than the non-Jews.
At that time, I sent a message to the administrators requesting that they let me know when their site would work for Ashkenazi Jews. I have never heard back from them. -- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com
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"Osterbücher" in 1832 Hessen-Nassau
#germany
Michael Rubin
I have the estate inventory of an ancestor who died in 1832 in a small village in Hessen-Nassau. The inventory lists several obviously Jewish books (eg. "ein Judisches Gesetzbuch"). It also lists "2 Osterbücher." I know that this term today means springtime children's books and/or secular books somewhat related to Easter themes such as bunnies and generally neutral in terms of religious content. My question is what this term might have meant in 1832. I have a hard time believing it refers to today's version especially since this person was elderly and children were out of the house. And, there were only two such books. There were only one or two of any of the books in the house.
Could Osterbücher have meant haggadah for Passover? Any other ideas? Thanks, Michael Rubin Boston, MA USA
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Event: The Poetry and Fate of Matilda Olkinaite: A Diary of Jewish Culture in Lithuania
#announcements
#lithuania
#holocaust
#events
peggyfreedman@...
Thank you to Phil Shapiro for letting me know about an online discussion of the fate and writings of Matilda Olkinaite, a young Litvak poet whose life was cut short by the Holocaust.
The event is organized under the auspices of the commemorative year of Vilna Gaon and Lithuanian Jewish Heritage by the Embassy of Lithuania in Washington, DC. The online conference will take place on Friday, July 10, 2020 at noon, 12:00 PM EDT For more information: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/poetry-and-fate-of-matilda-olkinaite-diary-of-jewish-culture-in-lithuania-tickets-111689028892 Peggy Mosinger Freedman
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I found relatives who got pregnant before they were married in 1934. They put the baby up for adoption then married 3 months later. I can't imagine anyone doing that today.
-- Phil Karlin Hartford, CT
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
It was a frequent practice. It was this in my family. It was a childless relative. I don’t know anything more about him. It is necessary to look for documents about adoption.
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Re: Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location
#general
Kenneth Ryesky
I do not know any of the particulars regarding your interactions with Pilgrim Psychiatric Center (formerly Pilgrim State Hospital), but note the following
New York's Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) is structurally and operationally similar to the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), except that FOIL gives New York state agencies broader reasons to deny access than does FOIL for federal agencies.
Your written request for the information should specifically state that the information is requested in accordance with FOIL. If your request is denied, then the bureaucrat who denied your request is required under FOIL to inform you of (A) the reasons for the denial, and (B) the identity of the bureaucrat to whom the denial can be appealed.
If the denial is upheld on this appeal, you then have the right to further appeal the denial to the Appellate Division of the New York Supreme Court (if this appeal is successful you may be entitled to attorney fees and costs).
[N.B. Don't let the name of the tribunal intimidate you. In New York, the "Supreme Court" is the LOWEST court of general jurisdiction; the intermediate appellate tribunal is the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court, and the highest state court in New York is the Court of Appeals of the State of New York.]
{Usual caveats that this does not constitute legal advice in the context of the lawyer-client relationship.}
-- KHR
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Kenneth H. Ryesky, Esq.
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
-- Ken Ryesky, Petach Tikva, Israel kenneth.ryesky@...
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Re: Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location
#general
Marilyn Feingold
HIPPA has changed everything. Many years ago I researched a family member in a facility and got a copy of their diagnosis and lots of other information. I am certain they wouldn't give me that information today. Too bad. Marilyn Feingold
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This may not help you at all but at the Kehillath Israel (Brookline MA) Hebrew School, several years ago, we had a third grade teacher named Avraham Gomborow and he was also a survivor. In fact half of the teachers plus the principal were survivors. I'm talking the 1950's fyi.
David
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manderlie@...
I have some thoughts for you if you would like to connect privately. I am not sure how to contact you however.
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alina.gildiner@...
Itka is a diminutive for Ita
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Angie Elfassi
Hi,
this subject is close to my heart!
A story I have told before and am happy to share again ....
My ggrandfather Mordechai KASSEMOFF was born in Rezekne in Latvia. On his papers that I had received from the Latvian archives, it said that his father was Moshe Hirsch. However, on his tombstone, in Leeds, it said his father was Zeev.
During my years of research I came across two family ancestors - GREENSTONE/GREENSPAN and MULVIDSON, and I couldnt understand how they were connected to the KASSEMOFFS. Eventually I was in contact with a descendant of one of the MULVIDSON family, who lives in Norway, and he sent me a copy of a photo taken in 1926. He told me that on the reverse side of the photo was written: my brother Mordechai and family in Leeds. Imagine my shock when I received the photo (attached). I had the identical photo in the cupboard of my ggrandfather and ggrandmother and their grown children (including my grandparents). He told me that the original family name was MULVIDSON. Ggrandfather Mordechai's birth father was Zeev. The clue of his birth father was on his tombstone  . The GREENSTONE/GREENSPAN (I have found different surname information and spellings, for the same branch) is the 2nd brother. There may have been more but because of the different family surnames, it's not easy to find them.I was told that they had been given different surnames almost at birth, to avoid conscription. The oldest son kept the family surname as he was exempt from army service.
Hope this has helped.
Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel
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Esther Goldberg
All telephone books are on the web
Esther
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
I have the same for my grandfather in the Ukraine.
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
http://genealogy.org.il
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Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com
Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl
-- Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy
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"adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Yes, I have an example of adoption to avoid the Tsar’s army, which I've told in a family story on the Byerazino/Pahost KehilaLink. The details are reported here:
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https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Byerazino/family-stories/rose-rabinowitz-family.pdf
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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Judy Madnick
We were told that my husband's surname "Madnick" was not the original family name, that when the Russians recruited boys to their army by force, if you were an only son, you could avoid the military. We've been told that the original name was "Gegozinski," so a direct ancestor of my husband and his brothers (unknown to us) each chose a different family name. Ours chose Madnick." Now I'm wondering whether they were "adopted," as described above or whether the "only son" story is accurate.
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ViewMate translation request - Polish (may be Russian)
#translation
#poland
#russia
Alice Klein
I'd like to request a translation of the Polish/Russian text of a birth record from Warsaw in ~1913. It is on ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82758 Please respond using the online ViewMate form. Thank you so much, Alice Klein
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Was a gradfather an acceptable witness for the birth of a grandson in Galitzia in 1875?
#austria-czech
Alberto Guido Chester
Dear Genners
I have found a close relative living in the same house, with the same surname who appears as witness in the birth act of a boy (by the way my grandfather)
I think he was his grandfather, however I cannot yet prove the relation.
Was such a close relative accepted by the Austrian authorities as a witness of the birth?
Or maybe this was not a limitation?
Thanks for your comments.
PS: If you consider your comments to be of relevance to me only, please email me but not the list.
Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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"adoption" to avoid the czar's army
#general
#lithuania
Ettie Zilber
DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR? a branch of my family had 5 sons around the mid-late 1800s. In order to avoid the military, 4 of the sons were "adopted" by families which had no sons. Thus, this branch had 5 different family names. They lived in Kalvarija and environs. Does anyone have information about this practice? How do the genealogy experts advise doing research for this brick wall?
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Robinn Magid appointed Assistant Director of JRI-Poland
#announcements
jeremy frankel
On behalf of the Board of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, I would like to heartily endorse the election of our long-time society member, Robinn Magid, to the position of Assistant Director of JRI-Poland as well a member of the JRI-Poland executive committee.
It has been my privilege and pleasure and that of the board to have known Robinn for many years, both professionally and personally. Her many years of experience and various skills will be put to good use with JRI-Poland’s board and executive committee. Congratulations! Jeremy Frankel President San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
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