Hello to all,

I’m looking for thoughts and guidance about a family surname, from Gorodische (the location that is supposedly about 100 miles from Kiev). My research has led me to the name Omborow (on the passenger manifest), Homboraw (on the petition for naturalization), Gomborow (used by some family members), and Gomborov (used by other family members). As you can tell, pronunciation played a role in the way the name was documented.

I would like to trace the name and the family further back, but without a better idea about the way the name may have been represented before the passage, it’s a challenge. My question: what could the name have been in an earlier manifestation? I can guess it was more like a gutteral “ch”: Chomborow, but any lead or idea would help. My thanks in advance for your time.

Best wishes,
Em

I am looking to find more about that portion of my family that came from Romania, particularly the parents and siblings of my maternal grandmother, Feiga Singer. My grandmother and her siblings were born in Targu Neamt between 1895 and 1911, but I don’t believe they stayed there. My grandmother left from there in 1921, traveling to Antwerp, Belgium, where she met my grandfather and gave birth to my mother. As far as I can tell the remainder of her family remained in Romania until at least after World War II.

 

Feiga was born in 1898 to Avram Meir and Sura Segal. She was the third of eight children. I do not have dates or locations associated with the death of either of the parents. Of the remaining children this is what I have:

 

Moishe was born in 1895. He married a woman named Frima Avram with whom he had two children: Gina born in 1925 and Itzhak in 1930. I believe he was living in Buzau at the time he became a father. He survived the war having spent some time in a labor camp (I don’t know which one). In 1950, still living in Buzau, he officially changed his name to Marcel Abramovici. He may well have used Abramovici or Abramovitz for quite some time prior to that point. The family moved to Israel at different times in the 1950s.

 

Riva was born in 1896. That is the only information I have on her.

 

Iosub was born in 1900. I have seen several items that make it appear he died in Iasi in 1944, but I can’t be sure that any of them are actually this person or just someone with the same name.

 

Simon was born in 1902. That is the only information I have on him.

 

Rebeica was born in 1904. In 1927 she visited Feiga in Antwerp. The Belgium archives show her name as being Rebecca Abramovici and that she resided in Bezeau. At some point, after returning to Romania in 1928, she married Aurel Creteu (I am not sure of the spelling of either his first or last name). They had a child named Adrian in 1946. They remained in Romania until the 1960s when they emigrated to Israel. Moishe’s grandchildren called her “Aunt Riri”.

 

Zalman was born in 1906. According to information contained in the Yad Vashem database he had at least two children and used the name Abramovici. He died in the Tighina death camp in 1942.

 

Tauba, the youngest of Feiga’s siblings, was born in 1910. She was married and lived in Bucharest. One source says she married Shlomo Hamundis in 1940. Another source says she married Roland Shternberg. She died in the Shoah but I don’t know the location of her death.

 

There was no immigration officers checking the status of passengers arriving in the UK before at least 1905, passengers just walked off the ship.

My second cousin, during an interview I conducted, informed me that his grandfather, Frank Kanserstein, had his name changed at Ellis Island.  Frank's was the husband of my great aunt, and I never met him.  According to my cousin, Frank's real name was "Thomaspol," but when they asked him what his name was, he replied, "Kanserstein," or "I can't understand."  Given your combined experiences, does this make any sense?

Have you tried the Marienwerder records available from this link ?:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/228694?availability=Family%20History%20Library

I am only aware of surviving Jewish records of Tütz from before 1820, which was when my paternal ancestors lived there. 

Have you added your family to the collaborative Geni Tree  ( free to use as a Basic member) ?   

Peter

I'm hoping that someone out there has information regarding Yaakov Lustbader, b. 1899, Novy Sanz Poland, d. 1980, Israel,    Parents;  Shimon Lustbader & Rachel unknown.
Neilan Stern. 
searching:  Stern, Stieglitz, Pistrong - Radomysl Wielki;   Aronowsky, Aronovsky, Entes - Vilijampole, Kovno Lithuania;   Black, Schwarz - Nesvizh, Belarus.
Thank you.
neilan1@...

Here is a translation of the headings for Odessa records that I made and posted years ago

http://sites.rootsweb.com/~ukrodess/page8.html

I had already answered some days ago; no idea where my posting has gone.

My wife's paternal grandmother was the daughter of a rabbi in the Bobruisk/Azarichi area in Belarus. Her Russian hame was SINAIDA. When she came to Germany in 1923 she always used the shortened form IDA. I am not aware of any Yiddish name of her.

A cousin by marriage and family friend, Edja Rosenzweig, jumped from a train going from the Hasag in Czestochowa to Auschwitz in mid-January 1945. She was about 21 at the time. My father interviewed her shortly before she passed away in 2002, and she told her entire wartime story. She said she and about 10 others in her group jumped from the train (they knocked out a window), and several made it to the woods where they hid out for several days. Edja was shot in the leg as she escaped. It might be possible to determine the names of some of the others depending on what kinds of records exist from the Hasag. For the person collecting stories, pls let me know if you would like more details about Edja's story. 

Erica Fox Zabusky
ZABUSKI - Czestochowa, Sochaczew
FRYDMANN - Sochaczew
BRAUN, PANKOWSKI - Czestochowa
FIKSEL, RUDMAN - Izaslav, Slavuta, Odessa, Kharkov
POLISZUK, GOLDMAN - Izaslav, Slavuta

Was it ever common around the 1930s for families that had adopted a baby to announce their child's arrival as if it was an ordinary birth?

I am researching an unexpected match in a number of cousins' DNA results. The ethnicity analysis suggests that this person likely has one, but not two, Jewish biological parents, and the strength and pattern of their matches suggests extremely strongly that this person is indeed a biological relative of our family. They were born in 1936 and appear to have been raised in the US state of Georgia by parents who were likely both Baptists. (Much of my family also lived in Georgia in 1936, although mostly not in the part of the state where this person was raised.)

Until I succeed at contacting this person's family, I am trying to gather as much information as I can on my own. One of the things I'm trying to figure out is whether I can narrow down the candidates for the person's possible parent in our family by determining whether that parent is likelier to be male or female. So I'm looking at two main possibilities: an extramarital affair involving the person's mother (suggesting the link is a male cousin in my family) or a baby being given up for adoption (suggesting that the link to my family might well be a female cousin). If I can be pretty confident that this isn't an adoption situation, I can zero in on one of the male cousins as the probable link.

The curious thing is that today I came across a couple of newspaper items that likely involve this person's family. One is apparently of a baby shower for the person's mother, given by their Baptist church. The other, about five weeks later, announced their birth.

So what I'm wondering is: was it a thing back then, especially in the US South, to have showers and birth announcements for adoptive parents? Or does the mere fact that these happened suggest that it's unlikely that a new addition to the family was adopted?

There's a second, particularly fascinating wrinkle involving this genetic genealogy mystery, but I'll save it for a follow-up.

At 16:43 29/06/2020, Angela Lehrer wrote:

I'm searching for the married name of my great aunt Rakel GOLUB born
Minsk 1884 and the names of her children who were probably murdered
in the Minsk ghetto around 1942. Her parents were Aryeh Leib GOLUB
of Lebedev, Belarus and Rose SHULKIN also of Belarus. I've searched
the Bad Arolson archives and contacted the Red Cross, but so far I
haven't traced her. Her brother, my grandfather, Tuvia GOLUB/GLOBE
used to send money to her via Barclays Bank in Liverpool before WW2,
but the bank has no existing archive of that period. I also asked
Yuri Korn from Belarus to investigate but haven't had any luck.
I've run out of ideas and any help would be greatly appreciated as
I'd like to record her name and those of her children in Yad Vashem.

Angela Lehrer
Jerusalem

GOLUB Minsk/Lebedev Belarus
S(H)ULKIN Belarus
BERNSTEIN, DUBOVSKY, GOLDSTEIN Alytus, Suwalki, Lithuania

This, clearly, is NOT your aunt, but a namesake,

Maybe it connects ?

I am in the process of collating 30 year's work of Forence MARMOR at
Mokkom Sholom/Acacia/Bayside cemeteries

Notes from Florence Marmor Data collected by Florence Marmor, David
Gevertzman, David Priever and Maurice Kessler plus other volunteers
from gravestones, death certificates, information from family
members, etc. Copyright 1995 by Florence Marmor, David Gevertzman,
David Priever, Maurice Kessler plus other volunteers, from
gravestones, death certificates, information from family members, etc.


Rachel GOLUB
death cert #2901,
died 01/13/1890 at residence and birthplace 24 Ludlow St., New York,
N.Y. of gastro enteritis and marasmus, age 3 months and 14 days,
father Chaim Golub, mother Bettie Golub, both parents born Russia,
buried 01/15/1890, undertaker Joseph Mistovsky, 8 Bayard St., New York, N.Y.

David Lewin

London

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage
of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the
Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at https://remember.org/unite/

While names may not have been changed at Ellis Island - the names might have been changed before getting on the ship! My great-grandmother traveled under the same last name as another family from her village that was going to NY.

A century later (and almost a decade ago) her maiden name was long forgotten by the family - and starting out in genealogy I naively assumed her immigration papers were accurate and happily traced out on jewishgen a family tree... for the other family she was travelling with! A few months later I figured out the ploy when all her children born in NY listed a different maiden name for her, as well as the marriage certificates for her children born in Belarus, etc. Out goes "My family tree", LOL :)

I don't know what applies in these specific cases - but both of them are after the area changed from Hungarian rule to Czechoslovakian following the Trianon agreement of 1920.

Please see your website email for a private message.

My earlier KRAUSE search has now progressed into a search for Marsha/Marcia/Martha (COHEN) KRAUT, h: Martin KRAUT, New York and New Mexico.  She would be the daughter of Beral William ‘Willy’ COHEN of Brooklyn, and a first cousin once removed to me.

Fingers crossed, and thank you.

Sandi Root <roadrunr2@...>

 

Here's the grain of truth: Someone in the family changed their surname.
Not surprising, since many "last names" were, literally, "son of X," and changed from generation to generation.