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The ancestry of Sarah nee MENDES (b 1791) wife of David JUDA RODRIGUES #unitedkingdom #germany #sephardic

David Ziants
 

I am looking for further ideas concerning Sarah nee MENDES (b 1791) was my fourth great-grandmother and was married to David JUDA RODRIGUES. See:-

https://www.geni.com/people/Sarah-Rodrigues-Mendes/6000000011361759839

Her husband was from the Netherlands, and they at some stage lived moved to the UK. Some of the children were born in the Netherlands and some were born in England. The couple belonged to the Portuguese Jewish community.

We know of her, as her name is mentioned in some of their children's documents. Her husband has also been traced through the Dutch archives, and we can go back quite a few generations. We do not, though, have any reference to her parents and neither can her birth record nor their marriage record be found, neither in the UK (Bevis Marks) nor in the Netherlands (Jewish Portuguese community). Thus it is very likely that she was born, and they married in Hamburg.

She is not Sarah the convert that appears on Bevis Marks records and was transcribed onto the 1851 Anglo-Jewish Database at Jewishgen, as that Sara had a different family.

I already requested help through the Sephardi Diaspora Facebook group, and I was shown the following multi page link to a legal dossier concerning inheritance:-

https://archief.amsterdam/inventarissen/scans/334/5.1.1.27.7/start/130/limit/10/highlight/2

which mentions a Sarah MENDES of an earlier generation from Hamburg. but my Sarah is more likely to be descended from the earlier generation Sara's brother Moses, as it seems that he was the only paternal grandson from their grandfather Isaac MENDES :-

https://www.geni.com/people/Moses-Mendes/6000000090053431511

There is actually already a family connection, as the earlier generation Sarah's husband's later wife is a sister-in-law of David's grandfather.

Unfortunately, the Hamburg records are generally very sparse and although was able to receive a lot of resource with regards to JEUDA RODRIGUEZ from the Sephardi group and private correspondence with one of the members, no further information was able to be provided with regards to tracing David's wife, apart from the earlier generation family.

It should be pointed out that although David and Sarah came to live in England, Bevis Marks do not seem to have a record of her, although they have of husband David (d1867) . There are too many Sarah RODRIGUES in UK BMD to identify her (family prefix JUDA was no longer used), and although they both seem to appear in London on 1841 census there, neither were so far found in 1851 and 1861 censuses - so maybe they returned to Hamburg - but then David is buried in London.

So, I am posting here, to see whether anyone has any further ideas how I can trace my fourth great-grandmother upwards. 

Also it should be pointed out, that from checking JOBWR for Germany, there was seen to be a few people named Sarah MENDES in the death records there, the dates of these do not resonate and there is not enough data in total to be able to identify the earlier generations as relevant.

Thank you in advance.

David Ziants

dziants AT gmail.com (please put "@" instead of " AT ")

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel 

Of my maternal sephardi ancestry, family names there are JUDA-RODRIGUES (or RODRIGUEZ-PASQUAL), MENDES, CAHANET de LARA COHEN (COHEN de LARA), GOMES da SILVA, ABENDALAK (Ibn DALAK), COHEN de MATTOS, BARUCH ROZA, SALOM, VIEYRA, de SOLA, JESURUN de OLIVEIRA, COHEN FARO, PRETTO HENRIQUES, ISRAEL, PRETO SOARSE, BASAN, MACHORRO, WARTEL, DRULLET, BENAVENTE, de PAZ


translation from German request - please - #translation

rose A
 

 

I request a translation from German to English or French for the following posts I sent through viewmate (there are 4 posts, but in fact they correspond to one single letter which is very long and which I devided into 4 parts).

It was written in May 1939 by my father's sister who was in Kobylnica Ruska, then in Lemberg with my grand father and sisters. My father had left to Italy where he probably received the letter. I would thank you for a translation as complete as possible, knowing that many words are difficult to read.

Thanks a lot ! I am trying to imagine my father's life as he never talked about it, it was probably too painful.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85200

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85201

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85202

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85203

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Rose Katz-Assor

 


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I request a translation from German to English or French for the following posts I sent through viewmate (there are 4 posts, but in fact they correspond to one single letter which is very long and which I devided into 4 parts).

It was written in May 1939 by my father's sister who was in Kobylnica Ruska, then in Lemberg with my grand father and sisters. My father had left to Italy where he probably received the letter. I would thank you for a translation as complete as possible, knowing that many words are difficult to read.

Thanks a lot ! I am trying to imagine my father's life as he never talked about it, it was probably too painful.

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85200
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85201
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85202
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85203
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much.

Rose Katz-Assor



 


Re: Good news for French research: 1931-1948 naturalization decrees online #announcements #france #records

Daniela Torsh
 

Thanks a lot Peter for posting Bernard's guide to research in France. I have found naturalisation for Paul STRANSKY a cousin of my mother's in 1946 the year I was born in Prague. Now I need to find how he got to Paris from Vienna and where he lived in Paris and how he survived the Nazis. I have no idea how to proceed. Any advice much appreciated.
Regards from Sydney
Daniela Torsh


James P. Kuykendall World War II Photography Collection #holocaust #photographs

Emily Garber
 

The Martin-Springer Institute at Northern Arizona University (NAU) in Flagstaff, Arizona has announced the completion of a web project featuring the James P. Kuykendall World War II Photography Collection.

In 2016, a box of more than 400 photographs and memorabilia related to the European theater of World War II was donated to the Martin-Springer Institute. The materials had belonged to U.S. Medical Corp. soldier, James P. Kuykendall and was donated by a third party.

The Institute created, funded, and supervised a team of NAU students to research and archive the collection. The student team organized, identified, and preserved the collection of photographs and also reconstructed part of Kuykendall’s life and wartime experience using genealogical records and methods. The collection includes graphic imagery from Ebensee concentration camp, liberated 6 May 1945; Nurnberg (Nuremburg), massacred Russian slave laborers, May 1945; and Geisenhausen, political prisoners, April and May 1945.

The impressive web project may be viewed at: http://msi-worldwar2photos.org/

A warning: some of the images are difficult to take.

Emily Garber
Phoenix, Arizona


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Debbie Terman
 

Hello,
 
I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM85235
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
 
Debbie Terman


Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Nicole Heymans
 

As stated in several replies, information in databases should only be corrected if the indexer clearly misread the original record. No information absent from the original record should be added.

You can post a tree to FTJP including any information known to you from family history, if you believe this to be correct. (I have some seemingly official documents where my grandmother, who was substantially older than my grandfather, adjusted her birth date by 10 or more years...).

In my first effort at indexing records, when I was still coming to terms with old German, I remember deciphering a newborn's given name as Hans, and later realized it was Isaac. If in doubt, always try to find the original record, and post to Viewmate if you need help.

At present I am busy double checking an old file that has been up on JRI-Poland for some time, correcting some misread items, but mainly eliminating hypothetical suggestions that were nowhere in the records and may be potentially misleading.

Nineteenth century records were not exact. They provide any information the informant provided, and the clerk chose to register. In my extended family, there's an individual with given name Chaim in some of his children's birth records, Joachim in 1834 naturalization records, and Heymann in his son's 1887 death record. Genealogy develops creativity and lateral thinking.

Happy hunting,

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

 


Re: My JABLOW Family from Minsk #belarus #names

Sherri Bobish
 


Dale,

A soundex search at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Belarus/
for surname JABLOW finds this surname in Minsk records, along with other possibilities:  YAVELOV

I see a December 1903 Ellis Island passenger manifest for Ender JABLOW from Minsk.  If you look at the manifest you will see the name JABLOW was written over a crossed out surname that looks like GZABLO,  Although, I'm not quite certain about the first letter being "G" or something else?

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Viewmate 85183--translation requested--German #translation #germany

Joseph Walder
 

 
I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the address above.
This is a marriage record for Moses Moritz Walder and Brandel Betty Eber from 1884. I would appreciate as complete a translation as possible, including any notes related to later events and anything about place of origin, family members, previous marriages, and professions. I'm not able to decipher the handwritten German from this era. 
 
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much.
 
Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA
 
 
MODERATOR: Please ignore messages I sent earlier today (2 September). There seemed to be a problem with the link going to a different Viewmate request
 
 
 


Viewmate 85183--translation needed--German #translation #germany

Joseph Walder
 

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
 
 
This is a marriage record for Moses Moritz Walder and Brandel Betty Eber from 1884. I would appreciate as complete a translation as possible, including any notes related to later events and anything about place of origin, family members, previous marriages, and professions. I'm not able to decipher the handwritten German from this era. 
 
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much.
 
Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA
 
 
MODERATOR: Please ignore message I sent earlier today. There seemed to be a problem with the link going to a different Viewmate request
 
 
 


ViewMate translation requests - Polish #translation

Ross, Phil
 


I've posted three vital records (two birth records and one marriage record) in Polish for which I need full translations. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...




Please respond via the form provided on each ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.
Philip Ross


Re: B'nai Moishe Alexandrovsky Benevolent Aid Society #usa #general

Sherri Bobish
 


Jay,

A Google search found this on GoogleBooks. 

B'nai Moishe Alexandrovsky is cited in an index in the book listed below the citation.

Ben Shloime, “The History of B'nai Moishe,” B'nai Moishe Alexandrovsky Benevolent Aid Society, 1909—1934 (no publication data)

Labor in Retreat: Class and Community Among Men's Clothing Workers of Chicago, 1871 1929. By Youngsoo Bae. Albany: State University of New York Press, 2001.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: nickname for Miriam? #names

jbonline1111@...
 

My sister's English name is Anne.  Her Hebrew name is Chana.  I would think that Mira is a diminutive for Miriam.
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Viewmate 85183--translation needed--German #translation #germany

Joseph Walder
 

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
 
 
This is a marriage record for Moses Moritz Walder and Brandel Betty Eber from 1884. I would appreciate as complete a translation as possible, including any notes related to later events and anything about place of origin, family members, previous marriages, and professions. I'm not able to decipher the handwritten German from this era. 
 
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much.
 
Joseph Walder
Portland, Oregon, USA


Re: Where Was Wilkennie, Russia? #russia #names

Susan&David
 

If you look at his NY ship arrival on the Hamburg in 1904 it says he is from Kovno.  (He is Meier Edelson, glazier, age 18)
If you look at the Hamburg departure lists, he is Meier Edelson from Wilkomir. 
Kovno is both a city and a Gubernia.  Like Kansas City is in Kansas State.

David Rosen


On 9/2/2020 8:41 AM, Carl Kaplan via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I found my grandmother's brother's 1911 naturalization papers (online), and attached them. He put down that he was born in Wilkennie, Russia. I have never heard of it, and couldn't find it in a search. Any ideas? Thanks.
--
Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania
HOFFERT, BIENSTOCK< BIENENSTOCK Kolbuszowa, Galicia
STEINBERG, KLINGER, WEISSBERG, APPELBERG Bukaczowce, Galicia


List of Genealogical Resources #general

Merrie Blocker
 

For an amazing list of resources check out
https://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/links.htm

Merrie Blocker, Silver Spring, MD
https://thebaronhirschcommunity.org/


Re: Were there markings on Jewish headstones in the United Kingdom that identify who the stonecutters were? #unitedkingdom

Madeleine Isenberg
 

To all,
I have been trying to learn more about Jewish stonemasons, to understand how they gained their skills and expertise.  Also, I want to know what kind of religious knowledge they might have needed, to ensure that inscriptions were appropriate.  I still haven't found enough information.

However, this website has some interesting observations as well as including names of some "monumental stonemasons: that you might find useful for London at least:
http://cemeteryscribes.com/blog/stonemasons-and-monumental-masons/

Best,
Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching:  GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland, such as: Nowy Targ, Wachsmund, Lopuszna, Ochotnica, possibly Krakow, who migrated into Kezmarok or nearby Straszky/Nagy-Eor/Nehre, both now in Slovakia.
GOLDSTEIN in Abaujszina (Sena), Szkaros, Szikso, Trstene, and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva, Hungary; Possibly Timosoara, Romania 
--
Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.


Re: Good news for French research: 1931-1948 naturalization decrees online #announcements #france #records

Peter Cherna
 

For convenience, here's the direct link to Bernard Flam's instructions on researching in France:
https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/message/646211

Peter Cherna


Re: Where Was Wilkennie, Russia? #russia #names

David Barrett
 

Noticing that family Edelson has some roots in Kovno I have to assume that some transliteration went wrong and that the place of birth/abode was WILKOMIR [ Ukmerge] which is not far from Kovno and is part of Kovno Gubernia
David Barrett


FGS Annual Conference Award Three Jewish Genealogists #announcements #events #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) held its virtual annual conference on September 2, 2020.  The FGS will be merged into the National Genealogical Society (NGS) as of October 1. The New NGS will have at least 4 board members from the FGS including a new officer position, Vice President of Society & Organization Management. Joining the new NGS board will also be Marlis Humphrey, as a director-at-large from Florida.

 

During their annual virtual conference the FGS announced its annual awards of which three awards were given to Jewish genealogists:

 

The Rabbi Malcom H. Stern Humanitarian Award was given to Miriam Weiner,CG. The award describes Miriam as the genealogist who lifted the “Archival Iron Curtain” and represents the highest standard that embodies both the purpose and spirit of the award.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The Loretto Denis Szucs Award was given to Gary Mokotoff for his many years of dedicated service and for helping to revolutionize the way we do research.  They mentioned he started in 1979 by helping develop the JewishGen Family Finder which is used by 100,000 researchers and help found the IAJGS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The third award, the FORUM Writers Award (no slide with her photograph) went to Jane Neff Rollins for the FORUM  contribution, Labor Union Documents Genealogically Relevant Sources.  FORUM is the magazine of the FGS.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

rebasolomon
 

WOW!  What a well thought out approach and diversified plan of action. Our thinking is along the same lines, but I am far behind you. Thank you so much for this response.

Reba Harris Solomon, New York

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