Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

David Ellis

I had a similar problem with MyHeritage.  They offered a one year "premium plus" subscription at a heavily discounted price ($150 instead of the full $300 price).  I submitted payment details and paid gladly.  One year later, they charged my credit card $300 for a renewal I didn't request.  

This appears to be a fairly widespread practice with online services as well.

Re: Need Information on Aharon WOLLNER fm Beregsurany #hungary


Try contacting Baruch Huber from Ungvar. Sure he will be able to help you. 
His email: huberbelay@...

Re: Hedwig, Sophie and Alice KASSEL in Uruguay #germany #latinamerica

Carol Sage-Silverstein

I can ask my cousin who lives in Montivideo.  Her grandmother moved there from Poland in the 1930’s as well.

Re: Kreindler / Kriendler town of origin in Galicia #galicia


I can’t help you in your search, but as an interesting side fact, Carl KREINDLER’s daughter was a midwife who delivered my father and his two brothers between 1903-7.
Bob Weiss
Kreindler / Kriendler town of origin in Galicia #galicia 
From: Simon Kreindler
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:56:11 EDT 

I have documented my KREINDLER line back to my GG Grandfather, Simon Kreindler, who was born in 1790 in Solotwina, a shtetl in the Austro-Hungarian Empire not far from Stanislawow (today it is Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine).


Although the KREINDLER name is not all that common, I have never been able to connect my line with the KREINDLERS of Club 21 fame. Their earliest ancestor in the US was Kieve/Carl KREINDLER who arrived in NY either in 1900 (according to Ellis Island records) or in 1896 (according to his son, Peter).


Kieve/Carl’s branch subsequently changed the spelling of their name to KRIENDLER, probably because it was grammatically more correct in English-speaking USA. My line retained the original spelling.


Years ago, I tried to find out where Kieve/Carl’s family had originated. It was not on his Ellis Island arrival record and none of his family apparently knew the answer (although the ones I spoke to were also very curious).


I wonder if, in the intervening 20 plus years, any of the KRIENDLER branch has been able to find the answer? If so, I would be delighted to hear from you.

Cindy g

Does anyone have a subscription to ProQuest who would be willing to look up an obituary for me?  I used to be able to access the site through my public library, but they no longer subscribe to the site. 

Thank you,
Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO
Researching Rothblatt, Komisarchik, Feldman, Lobatch and Goodman

JewishGen Research Divisions #records

Beverley Davis

For many years I was subscribed to the following JewishGen Special Interest Groups (SIGs): Early America, GerSIG, JCR-UK, JRI-Poland, Latvia, Litvak, Rabbinic, South Africa, and Warszawa, which all ceased operation when the upgraded Discussion Group was initiated.

I would like to know what has happened to the previously archived messages, and directions on how to access the new Research Divisions.

Beverley Davis, Melbourne Australia

Re: Quick Translation from German to English Please #translation


On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:11 AM, fredelfruhman wrote:

I apologize for the two typos.  I should have written:
The groom was from Nordenburg.  His parents were the vinegar manufacturer Katzke Lieberman and Rahel nee Wolff.

Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Oradea (Grossverdan / Nagyvarad) Cemetery Search #general #romania #hungary

Moishe Miller

Dear Group,

Does anyone know of a resource to locate and possibly photograph the tombstones of my g-g-gp's, in Oradea? I know there are three Jewish cemeteries there. The Valenta has many tomstones photographed on JOWBR. 

-Moishe Miller
Brooklyn. NY
JGFF# 3391

Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals


I realize that in some places this might not be applicable right now, but public libraries often have subscriptions to Ancestry that can be used for free.  They won't offer a free trial, nor will they ask for a credit card number.
Some of these libraries have made it possible to connect to Ancestry from home through them during the pandemic.
Yale Zussman

Please help with translation of marriage certificate in Russian from Markuszow, Lublin, Poland #poland #russia #translation


This is a wedding certificate from 1876 that may be of my wife's great grandmother in Markuszow, Lublin, Poland, then under Russian control. The family names are Neirensztein and Goldzycher. Thank you in advance for your help.
I need to know the names and age related information of the parents of the bride and groom and the bride and groom, and the place where they were born.
Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, Texas

A Presentation from Gesher Galicia: The Galicia Jewish Museum in Kraków: A Virtual Tour Narrated By Jakub Nowalkowski and Jonathan Webber #galicia #events

Steven Turner

Dear Friends,

The webinar series from Gesher Galicia returns today with this engaging presentation by Jakub Nowakowski and Jonathan Webber from the Galicia Jewish Museum in Kraków. They take you on a virtual tour of the museum that you will not want to miss.

Jakub Nowakowski was born and raised in Kazimierz, the former Jewish district of Kraków. Coming from a non-Jewish family that lived in Kazimierz for generations, from an early age he was compelled to research the history of his neighborhood. In 2007 he graduated from the Department of Jewish Studies at the Jagiellonian University, where he wrote a thesis on Jewish resistance in Kraków during the Second World War. In 2005 Jakub joined the staff of the newly open (2004) Galicia Jewish Museum in Kraków. In 2006 he joined the Museum’s Education Department, and in 2008 he became its manager. In 2010, after an international competition, Jakub was appointed the Galicia Jewish Museum’s director.

Jonathan Webber is a British anthropologist and Jewish activist now living in Kraków Poland. From the end of the 1980s Jonathan conducted fieldwork over many summers in about 100 towns and villages searching out Jewish heritage across the length and breadth of that part of Galicia which is today in Poland. After sharing his findings with the British photographer Chris Schwarz, he then went on to curate with him the permanent exhibition of the Galicia Jewish Museum in Kraków, established in 2004.

This presentation is recorded and on our Members Portal for members to view at their convenience.

Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link.

You must be a member of Gesher Galicia to be able to access the webinars and other resources in the Members Portal. Please click on the link below to join or renew your membership to be able to view this presentation.

If you are unable to access the Members Portal, send your inquiries to: membership@....

Please email Gesher Galicia at info@... with any questions or comments.  
Enjoy the webinar series, one of many benefits of your membership in Gesher Galicia. Please stay tuned for an exciting lineup of programs to follow.

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: Jewish Legion WW1 #canada


There is another excellent book on the history of the Jewish Legion.    "The Jewish Legion and the First World War", by Martin Watts.  Publisher - Palgrave (Macmillan) 2004.

Re: searching SMITH (SCHMIDT) /FRANK families of Milwaukee from Lithuania #lithuania



I sent you an email concerning a similar search I am conducting, however I do not have any of the first names you are looking for.  Maybe we have lines that connect further back!

Good luck!

Brad Johns

SULOWAY / DAVIDSON (Lithuania / Russia)

Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

EdrieAnne Broughton

It might help if you include the location of the Mt Sharon and Mt Lebanon cemeteries you were talking about.  There are several Jewish Mt Sharons that come up in a google search and many more that are obviously not Jewish.  I found that while Mt. Lebanon in Glendale (Queens) NY doesn't have much presence on Find a Grave, it does have a website of it's own and includes a search engine for those buried there.  Adding a cemetery to FAG is easy.  First find the complete name of the cemetery, including previous names.  Go to FAG's page, hit Cemeteries in the top menu bar.  There are two choices below the "search for cemeteries".  One is Add a Cemetery, the other is Browse by Location.  Do try to browse by location because often the missing cemetery is there under another name.  If it isn't, then hit the Add a Cemetery and fill out as much as possible.  If there's an office where the clerk is missing, ask for a business card and enter the information on it.  If you add a burial or two that will get things started.  I support Find a Grave because they are mostly volunteer and a handy place to start searching when you don't have much money.  You get out what you put in.
               EdrieAnne Broughton
                Vacaville, CA  FAG # 47015046

Re: Early 1900's Address Book of Stanislawow #galicia

Logan Kleinwaks

Stanislawow is included in well more than 100 directories on, but most of them have geographic scope of all of Poland or all of Galicia, rather than being limited to just Stanislawow. The easiest way to search these is by surname, but you can also enter both a surname and stanislawow (separated by a space) to find pages mentioning both words (not necessarily in connection to each other). For a few of the most important such directories, search results (even just for surname searches) include an indication of the towns covered on the matching page, but I have not had time to create such a town index for each directory and many are not even organized by town, but by occupation or in another fashion. Another option is to manually browse the Stanislawow section of a directory that is organized by town. To find the Stanislawow section, you can browse the directory via the links at or search for stanislawow {X} where X is the directory's id number listed at Usually, if there is a Stanislawow section, you will see in the search results many matches for consecutive image numbers, with the first such consecutive match being at or near the beginning of the Stanislawow section and often having the word Stanislawow in all caps. In directories with a geographic scope larger than just Stanislawow (e.g., covering all of Poland), the amount of information about Stanislawow can vary considerably -- many of these directories are limited to certain occupations, but some are much more comprehensive, such as the well-known series Księga Adresowa Polski (wraz z w. m. Gdańskiem) dla handlu, rzemiosł i rolnictwa for 1926/1927 {d21}, 1928 {d22}, 1929 {d23. d1391}, and 1930 {d24. d1392}.

Logan Kleinwaks
near Washington, D.C.

Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Susan Goldsmith

Thank you to Karen, Richard, Moishe, David, Diane and Allan.  You each had helpful suggestions that got me poring over records again!.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Marcel Apsel

People should use common sense.  I had the same thing when I looked once at Ancestry and was proposed a 14 day free trial.  I accepted it and was straight away directed to a page asking me my credit card information.  I said to myself : why Ancestry needs already my credit card information during a free trial.  It should be normal been asked after the finishing of the free trial and it is me to accept their proposal or to refuse it.  Result would have been,  that I would have got a free trial for 14 days and then have to pay, because they have already my credit card information.  My common sense said – no thank you – and I skipped the free trial.  And if you think free ‘cheating’ trials are only with Ancestry, you make a big mistake.  I happens with a lot of other websites.

The same with the cookies: if you don’t accept them you cannot get on some websites.  So people, use your common sense, so as, I hope at least, you do the same when getting phishing mails.


Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium

Re: Name translation needed #names #translation


Podenszczyk = an archaic Russian word for a temporary worker hired (paid?) on "per day" basis.

Re: Name translation needed #names #translation

Chana Bonn

Jerychem is the Yiddish pronunciation of the Hebrew name Yerocham,   Yerocham appears in the book of Samuel as the father of Elkanah.  It has nothing to do with Jericho.  It is related to the word rachem-mercy.  


Harry Moatz

Hi Annette:

There certainly is a similarity of names - even beyond your story, but I do not see a clear family connection just yet.

The similarity in names arises from the fact that my grandfather, Samuel Schwartz, born in Monasterzyska, married Dora Kessler.  She was from Pruzhany, Belarus.  They met in NYC and married in Toronto.    

Moshe was born in 1815 and died in 1900.  The oral history written down in the family is that he was born and remained in Monasteryzska.  He made rope.  We do not know of any connection between him and Stanislawow.

My great grandfather, Peretz, lived for a while in Stanislawow, possibly sometime not long before WWI and definitely after the war.  He may have died there.  His home was shelled during the war and he and my great grandmother survived in the basement.  I do not have good dates for any of this.

It is the family's understanding that all of Moshe's children were born in Monasterzyska. The earliest connection to Stanislawow I have found is with Moshe's son, Mordachai, better known as Markus.  Mordachai married at age 25 Chale Sure Ebert in 1880.  I presume Mordachai moved to the Stanislawow for business not long before 1880, met Chale and they married.  They had 15 children.  Mordachai was my grandfather's uncle, and most of Mordachai's children emigrated to the US.  

I am in the process of identifying all Schwartzes (including spelling variations) from Monasterzyska via and will chart them and their families from info in the manifests or possibly naturalization documents.  I'll try to do the same for Stanislawow-associated Schwartzes per stevemorse,   I'll share this info with you when I pull it together.  I'm also planning on posting to Viewmate some 20th Century Monasterzyska-associated Schwartz metrical records for translation in the next week for inclusion in the "chart."


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