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Re: Definition of family name #names #poland

alejandro@...
 

The exact meaning of this surname is en epenthesis of the surname Korb which is a german word for basket.
Now, "belnik" is a yiddish suffix for a person´s occupation. Therefore, the epenthesis occurs when you add or substract a letter from a surname. In this case an "a" was added and that is  how Korabelnik means "a basket maker or seller".
Best
Alex


Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

Rifkeh (רבקה) is actually Rebecca in  Hebrew and probably Yiddish. The parents probably preferred Rose.


Re: Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

mmsandfriends@...
 

hello, is there a way to find a list of ship names/manifests for arrivals of Yiddish speakers from Russia? My husband's great-grandfather, Israel Divac arrived in 1882 and the 1920 census for Philadelphia listed his spoken language as Yiddish and his origins from Russia. Minnie Schreck


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:58 PM Marsha Paiste <marsha.paiste@...> wrote:

Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


Re: Equivalent Name for Rose #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

Risha in Russian


Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Susan Goldsmith
 

I should know the answer to these two questions, but am floundering. 
 
1. Is there any way to see death certificates, not indexes, after 1948-49 for NYC and Brooklyn online.  I seek one for 1969 in Far Rockaway and one for 1981 in Brooklyn.
 
2. Is there any way to see naturalization records, not indexes,  in US District Court for the SD NY (NYC), US District Court for the ED NY (Brooklyn) , NYC Superior Court  and Kings County Court online?
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland


Looking for the birth certificate of MODLINGER from Przemsyl, Poland #poland

Jacques Klein
 

Can somebody help me to find the birth certificate of MODLINGER ( may be another name) Israel Jacob, born on  5th December 1906 at Przemsyl (Poland) from Shraga and Miriam ? And if possible, a translation.

As I do not understand polish, it is very difficult to search in polish archives.
Thanks
J.KLEIN
Paris, France


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

bobmalakoff@...
 

The name change idea was perpetuated in the Godfather movie.  Vito says to the immigration agent "I am Vito Andolini from Corleone" and the agent writes down Vito Corleone.  Many families changed their name on the own.  My maternal great grandfather came over as Morris Shimishelovitz.  Within his lifetime the name became Similovitz and then they said the heck with it, it's Simmons.
Bob Malakoff


Feierstein and Finkelstein from Mihaileni #romania

Margaret Kugel
 

My grandmother came from Mihaileni in Romania. According to Wikipedia there are several different towns called Mihaileni I would like to know how to find out which town is the right one.

 

Her family name was Feierstein or Fierstein or Feirstein. Her mother’s maiden name was Finkelstein. I would like to connect with anyone who has information on those families.

 

Margaret Kugel


Name Tocherre #names #yiddish

Marsha Paiste
 


Hello all--

When my great grandmother from Kornitsa brought her children to America in 1895 they came on a ship from Hamburg.  The passenger list employs Yiddish names with unusual, perhaps German, spellings.  For instance Tsiedel became Zeitel. Similar forms of the names also appear on the list of arrivals in NY.

One of the names is hard to read but looks like Therue or Tocherre  which I believe is my great aunt Jennie.  Is Tocherre  a name?  Is it possible that my ggmother said "daughter" or "tochter" and the name on the list  arises from that?  Are there names for Jennie that seem like either of these?

Marsha Starr Paiste
New Hampshire


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Lee Jaffe
 

I tried to answer this question about possible fatal accidents your "cutter" ancestor might have suffered earlier but the moderator misunderstood my reference to the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and rejected my message.  But no one else has mentioned more common kinds of industrial accidents and I thought I'd try again.  

My  family had a clothing manufacturing business in Philadelphia for 70-80 years.  They had their own cutting shop where material was cut in bulk and sent out for sewing to a jobber.  They used electric saws to cut many layers of cloth at one time.  There were the occasional accidents with the saws but I never heard of a fatality.

More concerning were fires.  There was always a lot of dust in the air from cut fabric.  Scraps of fabric were everywhere, often in bins under the cutting tables.  Rolls of cloth -- weighing 100s of pounds -- were stacked on racks (maybe another accident waiting to happen).  And finished clothes hanging from racks.  All told, a lot of fuel for a fire, which could be started by any number of common sources.  The Triangle fire is the most famous but we still see reports of fatal sweatshop fires. 

If not fire, cutting shops were still industrial sites with plenty of opportunities for injury and death.

Lee Jaffe


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

Barbara Ellman
 

All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
 
Births after 1909
Marriages certificates after 1937
Marriage Licenses after 1949
Deaths after 1948
 
Many of the indexes have been made available thanks to Reclaim the Records.  But actual documents are only available through the restrictive Health Department.

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Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: Maiden name of Great Grandmother #ukraine

dasw5@...
 

Did you try looking for death certificates? 


Re: Travel information sought for Rose FRIEDSON #usa

EdrieAnne Broughton
 

A lot of New Yorkers and New Englanders booked winter trips to Havana and the Caribbean to escape winter for a while, especially in the 1920-1940 time frame.  The trips were on cruise ships and lasted 1-3 weeks.  I've read that some of the cruise lines offered special fares to even up the single sex ratios.  My ancestors were never flush enough to get tickets.  Maybe that's why they went to California.
                   EdrieAnne Broughton
                       Vacaville, California


Re: NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa

ELIAS SAVADA
 

Check out https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/24/
for the best information on this issue.

Eli Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@...


Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

Max Heffler
 

I have been using Brother’s Keeper since DOS before Windows and it has come a long way and the author is very responsive. And being shareware, it cost nothing to realize the value and quickly registered it and have paid negligible for updates since

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Teewinot via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:01 AM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Genealogy Software For Family Trees #General

 

Hi Dani,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

You know, I didn't even think about that! I've been using computers
since the days of bulletin boards (before the Internet) and MS DOS
(before Windows), so it just never crosses my mind. Yeah, I'm fine with
it all.

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.

That sounds good.


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Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

harold.love@...
 

I find them all to be too expensive. I went with MyHeritage to house my Tree because it is huge but I haven’t gotten any new info there in ages. When I first joined they had an arrangement with Newspapers.com that was fantastic. The deal expired and they never worked out a renewal so not only do subscribers not have access for new Newspaper.com searches but everything that was archived to my ancestors disappeared. Their customer service is non-existent. I would go with the ultra-expensive Ancestry and should probably move my account and tree. Does anyone know where you can house a 2500 member tree for free?


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Max Heffler
 

I prefer to use geni.com as my main online tree and match record on MyHeritage and also use Ancestry.com. By bouncing back and forth I fill in many from all 3.


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Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html


Re: Seeking (Cohen) Bessie antecedents of Rosina Lhévinne (Netherlands) #russia

Judith Berlowitz
 

Uploading screen shot showing a Jacob Nathan Cohen Bessie in St Petersburg in 1864, as the link reportedly didn't work.
Judith Berlowitz


Re: Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

I have been using Family Tree Maker since at least 2011, when it was still on 3.5" disks!   It does everything that you are are asking for and more.
I started Family Tree Maker with names and dates, and over the years have been adding to this basic information. 

You can collect and enter all kinds of information for every entry - not just vital statistics. When putting in vital statistics you can include locations and other information.  You can also add in data for things like Bar Mitzvah info, etc. There is a place for personal notes and research notes for each entry and that's where I copy in documents that I have, family stories,  etc.
You can also attach photos to the individuals on the tree and you can document the sources for the information.  You can have a number of separate trees, if you wish.

When you want to "publish" the family tree, you have a choice of formats and fonts, and you can decide how many generations you want to include in the tree and what information you want to include on the tree (birth and death date, other dates, etc).  I print out a huge tree of many pages and paste it together.  Sometimes I print it with name, birth date and death date, sometimes I add the locations for birth and death.  I color code the tree for male and female.

Aside from the choice of publishing the family tree, you can also publish reports. The output for reports also gives a choice of different options and what information to include.  I find the reports useful when I am gathering information from other people and want an informational printout to work from.    There is also a report feature to show relationships -  if you put in someone's name, it will list everyone on the tree and their relationship to the individual - i.e. first cousin once removed, etc.

The program will handle a number of separate trees and there are other nice options for publications.  For example, for a close Friend's 80th birthday, i got the family information from his cousin.  The friend has been involved in Bonsai growing for many years. Using the info from his cousin,  I produced a family tree, in color, with a Bonsai Tree in the background that I was able to frame. 

As much as I noted above, I know that I have not used all of the features of Family Tree Maker and am always learning.  The program is regularly updated.


Hope this is of help to you.  Good luck!


Avivah R. Z. Pinski
near Philadelphia, USA . Researching: Zuchman in Sarnaki, Karczew, Warsaw Poland; Rubinsztejn in Sarnaki, Poland;
Reznik in Drohiczyn, Siemiatische, Poland; Sondak in Vitebsk, Belarus and Rehitza, Latvia; Aginsky and Slonimsky in Minsk;
Kopekin & Rifczes in Lemberg, Vienna, Polatsk, & Besonkovich; Familiant & Koifman in Bessarabia and Ukraine; Fehl in Mikulov, Vienna
 

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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: Deportation from U.S. ports back to Eastern Europe #general

Sherri Bobish
 


Judi,

There is no notation on the girls' passenger manifest indicating that either of them ever applied for naturalization. 

Did their mother or father come to the U.S. before they turned 18?  I am not sure if they could have naturalized under a parent's papers at that time?

Something to think about.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

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