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Preserve the 2020 US Census for the Future!

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Genners,

Today is March 1st. In one month's time we will all be participating in the 2020 United States Census. As genealogists we spend an awful lot of time seeking out information and records about our family. Now is a chance for you to actually "create" a record.

After you have filled out the census, and before you send. it back to the Census Bureau, make sure that you preserve a copy for the future genealogist in your family. Furthermore, get the word out to your parents, siblings, cousins, anyone you can think of, and ask them (politely) if they will save you a copy. Naturally you need to contact them BEFORE April 1st.

If you don't do this, well, as we know all too well, it will get tossed into the bowels of the Department of Commerce and be lost to history for the next seventy-two years.

Don’t let this happen on our watch!

Sincerely

Jeremy


Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
now Sacramento, California, USA

Searching for:
FRANKEL/FRENKEL/FRENKIEL: Gombin, Poland; London, England
GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England
PINKUS, Poland; London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA


Re: Please help us solve a 50 Yr Old Family Mystery! #general #poland

FamilySearchPoland
 

Gail do you mind emailing me at nr1teachers@... so I can directly ask a few questions share some more information.


(Poland) NumisBids List of Bids with Names of Issuer #poland

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Stanley Diamond shared with me a link to NumisBids which is a monetary auction site. What is so interesting is on the bid they list the name of the issuer. It is being listed here only because of the issuers’ names which may have some genealogical relevance.  The lot showing is from the 1860’s at least in most part. Be careful you don’t end up bidding on an item unless you want to purchase it! See:  https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=sale&sid=3703&cid=113653

I have no more information about monetary auction sites or why they would include the issuer’sname.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: Ancestry Announces Digitization of All 36 Million Available US Draft Cards #World War ll #Draft Registration Cards

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Susan Meyer asked where on the WWll Draft card the date of entry could be found. The cards are on two pages. There is an arrow on the right hand side to the right of #8 that takes you to the second page that has the physical characteristics of the person, the date and location of draft board as well as the registrar's signature.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Please help us solve a 50 Yr Old Family Mystery! #general #poland

FamilySearchPoland
 

nr1teachers@... email there


Re: Please help us solve a 50 Yr Old Family Mystery! #general #poland

FamilySearchPoland
 

Hi Gail,

I am very sorry for the delayed reply.  I'm going to email you as well.  I've had a couple things pop up that needed my attention, so been a bit sidetracked from the family tree building.

 

FYI:  Pesa Appel / Bessie Appel lived until 1973.  Her birth year is listed as 1902 in Tomaszow but that is a "projection" since we've never found a birth certificate.  Only what my mother listed on the death certificate.

So if we can link Pesa Appel to Judko or Moszko Appel or the Appel Family, we'd have the data we needed!


Re: Stein

Beverly Benz
 

I have a great uncle Sam Stein but it’s abbreviated from Finkelstein.  He was married to Eve and had no children.
Bev W
Researching Finkelstein, Lazar, Blackschleger, Wagner.


Re: Death certificate information

John Anderson
 

Thank you, Renee! Very interesting article and links....

John


On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Renee Steinig <genmaven@...> wrote:


Livingston Place was in Manhattan, It was renamed in the 1950s and became Perlman Place -- in memory of  New York State Judge Nathan David Perlman.

More about the street:

Not mentioned on that site is an interesting aspect of Perlman's biography: 
In the 1930s, not finding a legal means to break up German-American Bund rallies in New York City, he called on gangster Meyer Lansky for help. Lansky and his fellow Jewish mobsters went on to attack many of those rallies.

Google PERLMAN LANSKY for a number of interesting articles.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


John Anderson <counselor12721@...> wrote:

.... The d.c. gives his place of death as what appears to be 3 Livingston Place, 13th Ward of New York City. I know of Livingston Street in Brooklyn, but no Place....
 


Re: Death certificate information

boris
 

There is a book (I can’t recall the title) about Jewish gangsters of the 30's. Its main premise, if I remember it right, was that Jewish gangsters literally broke the back of the German Bund who was openly pro-Nazis.


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Boris Feldblyum
boris@...


Re: Ancestry Announces Digitization of All 36 Million Available US Draft Cards

Michael Herzlich
 

Sarah asked how to see the date of the draft registration.  To see the date you should look at the back of the card.  You do this on Ancestry by clicking on the arrow on the right side of the image indicating to go to the next image.  This will also show height, weight, complexion, other physical characteristics for identification such as scars.

Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida

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Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Belarus - EPSTEIN, HELFAND, POLLACK
Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER


Re: Ancestry Announces Digitization of All 36 Million Available US Draft Cards

EdrieAnne Broughton
 

There are two sides to the WWII Draft cards.  The date signed is on the second side.  Use the arrow.


Re: Death certificate information

Renee Steinig
 

Livingston Place was in Manhattan, It was renamed in the 1950s and became Perlman Place -- in memory of  New York State Judge Nathan David Perlman.

More about the street:

Not mentioned on that site is an interesting aspect of Perlman's biography: 
In the 1930s, not finding a legal means to break up German-American Bund rallies in New York City, he called on gangster Meyer Lansky for help. Lansky and his fellow Jewish mobsters went on to attack many of those rallies.

Google PERLMAN LANSKY for a number of interesting articles.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


John Anderson <counselor12721@...> wrote:

.... The d.c. gives his place of death as what appears to be 3 Livingston Place, 13th Ward of New York City. I know of Livingston Street in Brooklyn, but no Place....
 


Stein

Stuart Kaufer
 

Searching for relatives of my GF Samuel Stein who was born in Kiralyhaza and died in Chicago in March, 1957.  I know he had a sister Sara (Sadie) who lived in Hawley PA with her husband, last name Kerner.  They had no children and are both dead.
Do not know if the real last name is Stein or abbreviated when they emigrated?   I do not know if they left relatives behind in Kiralyhaza when they emigrated in early 1900's.   Thank you.


Kaufer Family

Stuart Kaufer
 

Searching for the relationship between Frida Kaufer Blonder who died in 1909 and my Great Grandfather Salomon Kaufer who died in 1919.  All lived in Chicago.  I know all about Frida's husband and children on the Blonder side but cannot figure out the relationship between Frida and my GGF, were they siblings?   Thanks


Re: Ancestry Announces Digitization of All 36 Million Available US Draft Cards

Sarah L Meyer
 

I noticed the other day that I could see the young men's WWII draft cards.  But I have not been able to see the date on the WWII draft registration cards.  I would be very appreciative if someone could tell me where to look for it. (just which line or corner).

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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Seeking Family of Neche Shorr 1872 - 1940 of Rzeszow Poland

Marvin
 

Hi I'm seeking family of Neche Schorr 1872 - 1940, her parents were Chaim Schor and Sara Ryfka (Wisznizer) Schor brother Samuel 1866, Abraham, Sisters Rachel 1851. Gittel 1858,
Please email marvin.charles@...
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Marvin Bude
61 0413998735
marvin.charles@...


Death certificate information

John Anderson
 

I am looking for some explanation regarding the certificate of death (attached ) of my paternal great-great grandfather, Henry KLINE. Here is what I already know:
1. Henry KLINE (KLEIN on his d.c.) was born in Strasbourg, Alsace-Lorraine around Jul 1831. He came to the US around 1846, and settled in Hamilton County (Cincinnati), Ohio, but late lived in Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio.
2.  He married Amelia HIMMELREICH 13 Aug 1855 in Hamilton County, Ohio.
3. He worked as a " loan broker,"  "jeweler" or "merchant" over the years.

Now come my questions:
1. The d.c. gives his place of death as what appears to be 3 Livingston Place, 13th Ward of New York City. I know of Livingston Street in Brooklyn, but no Place.
2. The undertaker and Medical Attendant both give addresses in Manhattan: 206 6th Street and 235 E. 10th Street. Why would they have attended him if he died in Brooklyn?
3. Cause of his death is given as "Hepatitis diffusa;" what is the "diffusa" part?
4. Contributing to his death was "Collapsus." what was that?
5. Date of burial in Cypress Hill Cemetery appears to be Jan 18, 1875, but I am not sure if it is that or Jan. 16.
6. Given that the time from attack to his death was only 3 weeks, is that normal?

Any ideas will be appreciated.

John Anderson,
Orlando, Florida


Re: Finding researchers

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
I agree with Pieter, but you must also check when this researcher had logged for the last time : date is written in the box.
I should say that if a date is too old, hope of a reply is small.
Bernard


Re: Ancestry Announces Digitization of All 36 Million Available US Draft Cards

Ellen
 

It's really interesting to see where some of my ancestors were employed at the time!

Ellen
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Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


My genealogy search story #general

joshuawhytepiano@...
 

Hi everybody,

I hope you will take the time to read my story.

I found out that I had Jewish family when I was almost 17 (19 years ago). My grandmother at the time, (that has been dead for many years now) who is my Mother's mother, was sick and while being with my Mum told her that we were Jewish and she had relatives and named names to my Mum that she had never heard before. Apparently German Jewish was the background.
 
My Mum was very surprised as she had never known this and was kept hidden from us all. After this happened I was watching the news at home in London and feeling pain watching a story on a recent terror attack in Israel. My Mum then mentioned what had happened with her and grandmother. This set off a spark inside that wanted to embrace this and know more.
 
This eventually became an obsession of mine. My first friend was Jewish who had family in Israel (although very Secular), which I ended up visiting in 2005, but before that I wanted to connect to Jews and Judaism. I was going through a very tough time in the early 00s as my parents had a terrible separation, but this journey was a strength for me and I was constantly in Golders Green (a vibrant Jewish area of London) everyweek, I also "randomly" started to meet and befriend Jews where ever I was it felt.
 
At the time when my grandmother was still alive, I tried to ask her questions about this but sadly she never wanted to talk about it or shrugged her shoulders and lit up cigarettes (she was a big smoker). She always said that she was Catholic the family years before she mentioning having Jewish ancestry. I kept asking trying to ask anyone I could, but nobody had an answer. Even my Mum (who is not really interested in Judaism or having Jewish ancestry that much) when I asked her several times through the years, it was "I can't remember everything grandmother said at the time" or "I think her grandfather Stephan was a German Jew..." and more recently "no! it was your grandmother's grandmother that was Jewish and Stephan was German...". 
 
This was and continues to be very confusing and frustrating for me. Because my Mum doesn't remember much and my Uncle the eldest of the siblings, had a bad relationship with my grandmother and also doesn't care regarding grandmother. And unfortunately, all the other older relatives have since passed away. 
 
But, I'll continue with this later... Back to the story... 
 
Once I went to university in the North of England in 2005, I got involved with the Chaplin Rabbi of the time and had my first real Shabbat experience. 
 
It blew my mind! And even though I didn't understand any of the blessings in Hebrew or what real Observance of Shabbat was, I felt very connected and it did not feel alien to me. 
 
As time went on I met lots of people in the Jewish student community and became close with the new Chaplin Rabbi and Chabad. During this time, I experience all the holidays and began to become observant, and experienced laying Teflillin. It was very special and I learned so much and began to grow. 
 
I wanted to investigate a little in my background because I wanted actual proof.
 
I managed to look a little into my grandmother's background until I found Stephan Camfield and Elizabeth Henrietta Dann, her grandparents. I was very sad because it saw that they married in an East London church in the 1890s and I felt like everything wasn't what I hoped for. I felt stuck and I had no help in this clarity. Although I did see that Elizabeth's Dad was Samuel Dann. 
 
It continued this way until I considered maybe doing some kind of conversion process just to be on the safe side. But, that ultimately did not happen as the pressure built up on me too much financially, the lack of knowing whether I'm Jewish or not and other issues. So in 2010 whilst living back in London, I dropped everything as I was so upset and not getting any help. I decided to go 'off the derech' and just live my life as a young man.
 
I met a Swedish girl in London through music connections, we were in a relationship for 3 years and at the end I moved to Stockholm (where I now currently live with my fiance) in 2013 to have a relationship with her, that eventually failed. During the end of that relationship I began to feel a strong pull back to Judaism after attending a Shabbat dinner at Chabad. This was in 2014, and what would be the beginning of my journey back to Judaism. During this time, I met my current fiance as I was going through this return and a close friend who brought me back into Torah Judaism. Since 2014, I have been studying so much, come back to Shabbat Observance and growing in my Kosher.
 
Besides this, one last thing I'll mention is going back to what I mentioned earlier... My mother about 4 years ago said that it was actually the grandmother of her mother that was Jewish and Stephan was the German. So this made me feel stronger and that it was more likely as she seemed more certain. 
 
I gained hope again but it still wasn't enough. 
 
I have realised that this whole journey has been amazing and yet very emotionally straining for me. I feel that for over 16 years now I have not had any clarity on this and I truly feel that I deserve to know once and for all so I can move on and plan my future accordingly. 
 
What my grandmother revealed to my mother was a huge thing and I do not for a second believe it was a coincidence. My life changed forever when I found out about having Jewish ancestry and the funny this is that about 2 years ago I found that my Dad is Jewish and that his Mom's family originally left Europe due to persecution and were Polish Jews. I met my old great uncle at a funeral and he confirmed this and can speak Yiddish. 
 
This was an extra source of strength for me, but didn't settle the main issue at hand. 
 
I need clarity and do not want to cry or feel stressed about it anymore. I'd be happy to give out as much info as I can regarding names and birthdays etc. But I have no paper work. 
 
Can anybody here help...?  
 
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this. I'm sure it's not the first, but I really appreciate some feedback. 
 
May you all blessed with health, success and growth.
 
Joshua