Re: Shabbos meals #belarus

Mashiach L. Bjorklund

Milchig was not part of my growing up family experience, but my wife's maternal ancestry is Sephardic. Their Shabbos meals were often milchig and included fish. Since I am the family cook I have researched Sephardic dishes as a way to connect my wife and kids to that heritage. Perhaps your ancestors were influenced by Sephardic Jews within their community.

Re: Double First Name, 2nd Maiden Name, or Something Else? #galicia #general

Christine De Angelis

Could Hoffert be a previous husband's name and Nuseaue (or whatever it actually is) Esther's maiden name? 

As others have implied, an index is simply a finding aid.  Trust nothing, verify everything is my motto, lol.

Re: Landsmann article #general

Lee Hover

I'm sure there is a library system in Israel.  Have you spoken to the librarian re obtaining the article ?

Re: Shabbos meals #belarus

Lee Hover

We were not religious, but every Friday nite it was chicken soup & chicken.    (And my mother was a lousy cook!)

the English equivalent of Asnel or Zammel #names

Sylvia Tulkoff

Does anyone know the English equivalent of Asnel or Zammel? Are these names Yiddish or Hebrew?
I found them in a letter written in Yiddish to my in laws but cannot connect them to anyone in the family that I know.
Thanks for your assistance.
Sylvia Tulkoff

Did Emperor Joseph's 1787 decree include a list of names? #austria-czech

Jim M

I have read in several references that the decree forcing Jews to take family names, promulgated by Emperor Joseph II in 1787, included a list of about 1500 specific names (some also say: "of which 10% were indicated as most suitable").   Is this true?   If so, is there a transcription of the list somewhere?

Thank you, Jim Milch

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Jules Levin

Tom, I think the Ellis Island meme now is recognized as false for how it
is usually understood--a US official caused the name change.  Before I
started my research in my own family, all my older cousins explained our
change as "Ellis Island", even though all the family was in the US by
1891--before Ellis Island was up and running.  By this they
meant--involuntary change by the government.  What else could they have
been thinking.  But now those trying to save the honor of their
grandparents are reinterpreting the meme as any kind of change--advice
by a fellow immigrant, a slip of the pen, any port of entry in any
year--as the deep meaning of "Ellis Island".  Basically, it means we
have won the argument--no changes were made at Ellis Island by the

Jules Levin

On 7/27/2020 8:19 AM, tom wrote:
your arguments are wonderful, but like the little old lady said in the
fast food ad, "show me the beef".
please provide us with just one single properly documented case, out
of all the millions of immigrants who landed at ellis island, where an
american official changed the immigrant's name.  it shouldn't be
....... tom klein, toronto
At 3:07 -0700 19/7/20, main@... wrote:


*Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island"* #names
From: YaleZuss@...
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 23:56:48 EDT

Karen Silver and Philip Trauring, who writes the blog where Avivah
Pinski found another claim against involuntary name changes


your ancestors, you don't discard anything they tell you unless
and until you have actual proof that what they told you is wrong.
NINC appears to have originated to motivate the wholesale
discarding of family narratives, which would destroy whatever data
they include; it's conceptually not that different from burning
down an archive.

Yale Zussman

Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Phil Karlin

Thank you to all. In aggregate you've painted the picture I was looking for. I'm looking forward to hunting down the death certificate.


Re: What's a Cutter? #usa #general

Phil Karlin

Thanks for, I did not know this website. I could find no mention of the accident there. I am planning on tracking down the actual death certificate. Covid-19 is getting in the way for the moment.

Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names


I was wrong.  Angielczyk  is Englishman in Polish, not angel.

in search of: EPSTEIN family from tiszapolgar hungary #hungary


i'm looking for the descendants of Antal EPSTEIN and Hani KLEIN who were maried in tiszapolgár, hungary, and immigrated to new york in 1914.  their children were:
Cornelia, born 1895, married BLAUNER
Goldie (Aranyka), born 1898, married GOTTLIEB
Elsie (Erzsi), born 1900, married LINDENFELD
Charlotte (Sári). born 1901, married KIRSHBAUM
Margaret (Margit), born 1906
Julius (Gyula), born 1913, married JOHNSON
one of the children may have moved from new york to florida, and another to texas.
any leads on their descendants would be greatly appreciated.  (i've already looked through jewishgen, findagrave, familysearch, and ancestry.)
....... tom klein, toronto

DNA tests for genealogy in Israel #dna

Reuven Mohr

I'm living in Israel, and trying to order a DNA test kit on Myheritage, or Ancestry results in a note like "not available in your country". Israel seems to have a law not allowing this.
Now I came across FamilyTreeDNA, and the possibility to order a kit for a mitochondrial DNA test to Israel seems to be unblocked. (I was just curious and did not enter a credit card to make the deal) 
Is anyone familiar with mitochondrial tests in Israel? What are the options? 
I have no knowledge on this branch of genealogy till now.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Reuven Mohr
Jerusalem area, Israel

Verifying Portuguese Translation of Brazilian Immigration Paperwork #latinamerica #translation

Yaron Wolfsthal

Dear Group,
I have auto-translated, and then manually refined the translation of a relative's post-WW2 travel record from written in Portuguese (Brazil).

The Portuguese language is shown size-by-side with the English version here :

The  translation, admittedly, is rather raw, but I think I got the essence.

I'd be grateful if anyone who masters Portuguese would look to help me verify this translation (and point any mistakes).

Thank you -Yaron

Re: Translation of documents from German to English #translation


Since your cousin is in Israel:  there is a branch of the Leo Baeck Institute in Jerusalem, too.
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Looking for relatives of Rosa Gavurin Weissberger, born in Belarus, lived in Haifa #belarus #israel #photographs


Rosa GAVURIN WEISSBERGER was one of my grandmother, Bessie's, sisters.  Bessie was born in Grodno in 1901,  Rosa was one of seven children, born about 1907. The story goes that Rosa married Mr. SIKUN and moved to Israel where he died.  She later married Mr. WEISSBERGER and had three children.  An address that I have from an undated envelope is  Sele-bone 25, Neve-Shanan, Haifa.  Would love to locate a member of Rosa's family.  Rosa may be one of the women in the attached photo.  Thank you.

Re: looking for relatives of Miller and Zangier families in Fargo, North Dakota,L originally from Grojec, Poland. #usa #latinamerica #poland


Thank you. I belong to the group but did not think about posting.
Angel Kosfiszer
Richardson, Texas

Re: Use of "ben Avraham" on a headstone #general


Hello Jeff,

My sense is that it is inappropriate and I suggest the inclusion of some Hebrew writing and/or star of David to indicate that the deceased was Jewish.  Shalom, Malka Chosnek



Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Kenneth Ryesky

Many Jews in Spain and Portugal assimilated into the population following the Inquisition and expulsion.  I have seen estimates that one-fourth of the Spanish population has Jewish ancestry.
Approximately a century following the expulsion from Spain, the Spanish Armada had its (mis)adventures in Ireland.
Through such dynamics, there no doubt is Jewish DNA to be found amongst today's Irish population.
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Find Address - 30 Osborn, Brooklyn NY #usa

David Oseas

If you can't find an address/street combination in a census, always remember to check for street name changes/renumbering.  Osborne Ave in Brooklyn became Ocean Ave (see: )

David Oseas

Re: JewishGen Adds New Holocaust Database #JewishGenUpdates

Nancy Siegel

Thank you, Tony. The records that were recently added to JewishGen’s Holocaust Database, as reported earlier by Nolan Altman, concern Revoked Citizenship and Property Seizures 1933-1945. 

To learn more about these records, go to:

To access the main Holocaust Database, go to:

Nancy Siegel
Director of Communications
(San Francisco, CA)

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