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JewishGen Webinar - June 24 #JewishGenUpdates #education

Nancy Siegel
 

We invite you to attend another free presentation in our series of JewishGen Talks webinars, with our speaker, E. Randol Schoenberg.


Privacy and Genealogy: What Are The Rules?

Wednesday, June 24, 2020

3:00 pm Eastern (NY) Time (19:00 UTC)


Privacy remains a huge issue for many genealogists and their family members, and the legal landscape concerning records access is constantly changing. Personal genealogy websites, as well as online collaborative trees, offer different levels of privacy protections.


In this JewishGen Talk, Randy Schoenberg (a well-known attorney, JewishGen Board Member, and Director of JewishGen’s Austria-Czech Research Division) will discuss the varied approaches to the question of privacy, focusing especially on ethical considerations. For example, how should a genealogist respond if someone says he/she does not want to be on your online tree? Should minors be allowed to use online genealogy platforms? Can the right to privacy ever be reconciled with online collaborative genealogy?


As genealogists increasingly utilize public, or semi-public, online collaborative genealogy platforms, these questions are becoming more common.


Advance Registration Required!

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Nancy Siegel (San Francisco/CA/USA)
Director of Communications 
JewishGen.org








Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Jill Whitehead
 

As Suwalki was close to the Baltic, it was easier to get to the Baltic ports either by being smuggled across the border with Konigsberg/East Prussia or by travelling via the Augustow canal (at least partially) to Libau in Latvia. By the 1880's the railway went through Suwalki town and trains could be caught to Hamburg, to either cross the North Sea to UK and then onwards to USA, or directly across the Atlantic to USA. By the 1880's, the journey was done by steamship and many lines plied the Baltic/North Sea/ Atlantic routes including those that operated out of Hull on the NE Coast of England. The University of Hull has a lot of information on its immigration website about these shipping lines. Also the 2008 IAGS conference in Chicago had a series of lectures on this theme, especially one on New East Prussia (which Konigsberg was then part of) on the border with Suwalki Lomza, where there was a whole industry in getting people across the border, sometimes involving false passports if the immigrant did not come from Suwalki Lomza gubernias but from further afield. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK 


Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

judyggenealogy@...
 

I would be very surprised if this was actually a "given" name. Endlings with "owna" typically mean "daughter of" so one would assume that this woman/girl was the daughter of someone named Icek.

Judy Golan
JRI-Poland Kielce Area Coordinator
JRI-Poland Sandomierz Area Coordinator


Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Dr.Josef ASH
 

In Russian this means that she is a daughter of Icko.
Her brother was Ickovich
the father, naturally, Icko Itsko, Itshak and any other spelling of this name of one of Our Fathers


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Why not?  my dad’s family were Levites and the surname was Stern.  My husband was also a Levite and the last name is Mannlein,

Also, people changed their names when they moved to new areas, or for social or business reasons.  Some men married into Levite families when did not have male children and assumed the family name to continue the lime, but since Levitical status is conferred thru the male line, they are not Levites.  

Not all men bearing the surnames Kohen.Kagan,Cohen,Kahn, Kahana, Kaplan,Rapaport,Katz are Cohens…..  

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, Arizona

On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:39 PM, kastamp via groups.jewishgen.org <kastamp=yahoo.com@...> wrote:

I have another doubt. My surname is Levites and we were told that we were Israel. How come? Who decides? This doesn't make sense to me.
_._,_._


Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

JOSEPH GODELNIK
 

or the synonym name for women in eastern Europe?
--
Jgodelnik


Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Yes, Reba, it can be true… that’s the way I was raised.  You ate what you were given…..  Food was expensive, and children’s tastes were not catered to.

Barbara S. Mannlein
Tucson, Arizona


On Jun 20, 2020, at 7:17 PM, rebasolomon <theshviger@...> wrote:

Abt 1925-Cannon St. on the Lower East Side of NY.

My father told us, more than once, that when he was a child he would not eat. No matter what his mother gave him, he would not eat. So she took him to a place where they gave him some kind of porridge or oatmeal thing for breakfast. He did not eat it. Comes lunchtime, he goes in, and it’s the same porridge, but now it’s cold. Dinner, the same thing. Till finally he ate it and he never turned down his mother’s food again.

Can this story be true?  I see from a map that the Henry Street Settlement was near Cannon St.  Any thoughts on this?


Re: from Grodno, Poland/Belarus to Palestine and back #israel #poland #holocaust

Rose Feldman
 

About the only place to search online in English at the moment is the website of the Israel Genealogy Research Association. Registration is free and will you allow to see if there are any records in our collection at the moments.  http://genealogy.org.il

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


request for translation from Polish of birth record; viewmate #82617 #translation

Marilyn Gelber
 

Please translate the birth record in Viewmate #82617.   It is for Roza Fern/Marienstrauss, my grandmother's younger half-sister.  Also, please translate the categories at the top of the page.  Thank you for your help.  Marilyn Gelber


Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

kastamp@...
 

I have another doubt. My surname is Levites and we were told that we were Israel. How come? Who decides? This doesn't make sense to me.


Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Susan&David
 

This is a record for a stowaway, arriving in Boston in 1915.  He was aided by the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society in a Special Inquiry case, as Yale Zussman decribes.

HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE
Jacob Batkowsky  age 26,  dated May 10, 1915.
SS: U.S. Colier Porthemous, arrived 10/5/15.  Nativity: Lodz, Russ-Poland.  Social State: G.
Occupation:  Carpenter   $16		Stowed away
Dest. to:  Cousin D. Glasser, 477 Thompkins Ave. Brooklyn, NY
We held of the hearing, pending word from relatives, communicated with New York Soc'y and
received affidavits and money order for $75.00.  We then got him a hearing and secured his
admission outright. We took him to our office where we furnished him with two meals, then
secured a ticket to New York, via Providence, bought him food for the night and placed him
on the train, wired his departure to the N.Y. Soc'y to await him.  We then returned the money
order uncashed to the N.Y. Soc'y for which we received acknowledgement.

David Rosen

On 6/20/2020 8:01 PM, YaleZuss via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Jeanette,
 
Stow-aways weren't barred from entry into the United States. Section 3 of the 
Immigration Act of 1917 establishes the conditions for their admission: they could be admitted as long as they didn't fall into any of the excludable categories.  Before 1917, their fate was determined by Boards of Inquiry established by the Immigration Act of 1903.
 
Can you attach a date to when Solomon Rofer arrived in the US?  If so, you may be able to make a direct judgment about the story.
 
Yale Zussman
 
 


Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

YaleZuss@...
 

Jeanette,
 
Stow-aways weren't barred from entry into the United States. Section 3 of the 
Immigration Act of 1917 establishes the conditions for their admission: they could be admitted as long as they didn't fall into any of the excludable categories.  Before 1917, their fate was determined by Boards of Inquiry established by the Immigration Act of 1903.
 
Can you attach a date to when Solomon Rofer arrived in the US?  If so, you may be able to make a direct judgment about the story.
 
Yale Zussman
 
 


Re: Harry Klayman - Need Information #usa

cohen.vic@...
 

I doubt we have the same ancestors, but I do have a few Claymans (2 - Harrys) who emigrated from the Riga area to SE Ohio before resettling in Washington, DC.  However, they arrived several decades after your Harry was born.


LABOWITCH - Dorohoi, Romania Aizic Isaac/Yitzhalk #romania

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom!

Tried several years ago with no success! Can you possibly help me with any new research?

Thank you,

Ilan Leibowitz

Israel

 

 

 

 

 

Subject: LABOWITCH - Dorohoi, Romania
From: maya@...
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 20:57:49 +0200
X-Message-Number: 5

Dear Genners,

Seeking information on descendants of my great-grandfather's brother
Aizic Isaac/Yitzhak LABOWITCH.

My great-grandfather Wolf LABOWITCH from Dorohoi son of Reuven Leib, son
of Itzic was born in 1853 - mother's name Mariem - married in 1872
Rifka (Rebecca) Crashmariu.

They had several children and moved to London in the late 1800s where
they had more children, - have a full family tree.

Wolf is known to have had at least one brother called Aizic
(I am confident there were other siblings) whose wife was Rachel and
children Chaia and Nechama (there may have had more) It appears they did not
go to the UK nor remain in Dorohoi after 1900.

If your LABOWITCH (variant spellings) family tree has the above
mentioned persons please contact me privately.

Thank you for your time.

Ilan Leibowitz (Israel)

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Origin of the my surname Genis #ukraine #general

June Genis
 

According to a family history written by one of my uncles, my grandparents Jacob Morris (Moshe?) and Minnie Rivke Genis emigrated from Dubno, now Ukraine, in 1888 just after they married.  I have been unable to find an immigration record and suspect they may have come in under temporary visas and then just stayed.  I do however have a departure record for 1901 from Hamburg for a Yacob, Mende, Chaim, Yosef and Noah which I believe is a return from a visit back home after their first three children, known to me as Herman, Joseph, and Nathan (my father), were born.  There is also a Castle Garden arrival record for what looks like Yacob, Mendol, Yonin, Yosef, and Noach. 

The family history indicates that my grandfather had a brother who is not named and that their mother ran a grocery store.  There is no mention of their father but Jacob's grave stone indicates that his name was Joseph. Their mother's name is also not mentioned but from Jacob's death record I learned that her name was Rachel. My 1st cousin Bennett Genis has Y tested but has never had a match come up with the same surname.  In fact it appears that his best match is likely Catholic as his father was a member of the Knights of Columbus.  The name Genis is found in Spain and some sites do credit Bennett with as much as 6% Sephardic DNA. All of us Genis cousin's who have tested also show both Greek and Italian DNA which could have been acquired migrating from Spain thru Italy eastward but I have nothing at this point to support that possibility.  I have also found the name in Bessarabia which is plausible but no names I can recognize . The only other place I have found the name Genis is in the Netherlands and can find no connection to my Genis line.

We have always pronounced our name with a soft G but my orthodontist, a dental school colleague of my father, alway pronounced it with a hard G.  I found what I believe is an NYC birth record for Herman listed as Genec.  When I was growing up in NYC there were very few people in the phone book named Genis but when Russia opened up Jewish emigration, in the 70's I think, that changed.  So the name i still rare in the US but not as rare as it used to be. I have not been able to trace any further back than my grandparents although Bennett did meet someone in Israel many years ago who claimed to be related.  However it was a woman with a different last name that he could not understand very well because of language conflicts.

My understanding is that most records for Dubno were lost in WW II but I would appreciate any leads to where I might find information that would allow me to track further back.

June Genis


Re: Geography mystery: Did any part of Polish Russia became German between 1880 and 1900? Specifically where? #poland #germany

Christine De Angelis
 

Howdy,

The National Genealogical Society's (now virtual) 2020 conference will feature "Austria, Poland, Russia, or Prussia?  Making Sense of Central and East European Historical Geography" presented by Joseph B. Everett.  For me, this is a must attend.  The syllabus for this talk is four pages and pretty substantial.  The 'On Demand' sessions will not release until July, but you are still able to register.

https://conference.ngsgenealogy.org/sessions/austria-poland-russia-or-prussia-making-sense-of-central-and-east-european-historical-geography/

Chris D.


Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Christine De Angelis
 

Howdy,

At the 2019 Texas State Genealogical Society's conference last October, David Passman presented "From Minsk to Manhattan:  Using Maps to Retrace an Ancestor's Journey."  It was an extremely detailed and fascinating talk.  I think you would find it quite enlightening.  From the syllabus:

OVERVIEW
When an immigrant ancestor leaves no letters, journals, or other mementos; retracing their journey proves problematic. Three records, all passenger lists, reveal that David Passman travelled from Minsk to Manhattan in spring 1891 with fellow landsman (countryman) Abraham Kriegel. Using historic maps in conjunction with research into extant integrated transportation systems illuminate David and Abraham’s journey city by city during the Age of Steam.

You should contact David (dbpdallas@...) to:
1)  Ask him when and where this presentation will next be available to view;
2)  When will his book on this topic be published and where / how to purchase it.

Chris D.


Re: Help with photo of Boyarka cemetery in Elmont, NY #general #photographs

Diane Jacobs
 

Polina,
Call Beth David Cemetery 
In the past they have taken gravestone pics
For free or a small fee.
.
Diane  Jacobs 



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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Help with photo of Boyarka cemetery in Elmont, NY #general #photographs

Hi,

I wondered if there were volunteers or people who charged that could take a photo of my great-grandmother’s grave?  I’d like to see whatever could be written on her headstone.

Details:

Rose Polsky
Beth David Cemetery
Boyerka Benevolent Society
Row E, Grave 3
300 Elmont Road
Elmont New York
Boyerka Benevolent Society

Thank you for any suggestions.

Polina Olsen
Portland, OR
--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Help with photo of Boyarka cemetery in Elmont, NY #general #photographs

lastpage@...
 

Hi,

I wondered if there were volunteers or people who charged that could take a photo of my great-grandmother’s grave?  I’d like to see whatever could be written on her headstone.

Details:

Rose Polsky
Beth David Cemetery
Boyerka Benevolent Society
Row E, Grave 3
300 Elmont Road
Elmont New York
Boyerka Benevolent Society

Thank you for any suggestions.

Polina Olsen
Portland, OR


Re: JSTOR Expands Free Access During Pandemic #announcements

Lee Hover
 

From my experience with Jstor, it is a database composed of academic articles and doesn't deal with genealogy directly.


Moderator Note: Please review the site again. There are journals of genealogy research available

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