Research for family from Vilno, Lithuania #lithuania

Barbara & David Israel

I have been searching and researching for almost 40 years, but this family line is my 10’ block wall.
If anyone can suggest anything or anywhere I might find data, I would be thrilled. I am hoping to find
some kind of connection with some of the names.
My grandfather was born in Vilna and his name was Schimen Fischer. His name when he came to
the US in 1904 became Harry Samuel Fisher. The birthdate date I have is
March 5 1888 and he died Mar 16 1969 in Covina CA. His parents were Abraham and Ida Sarah Fischer.
I have been told that his father died either shortly before his birth or just after. Ida Sarah was married
multiple times and have names of children with each marriage (or man), but I have no idea if they were
half-siblings or step-siblings to my grandfather.

Unknown Levine - 3 children:
Sarah: Jan 6, 1886 Vilna - Nov 19, 1966 Sheldon Iowa Married Theodore Wolff
(They had 3 children)

David Zwick : 2 children
Clara Zwick abt 1874 Vilna - Feb 13 1938 Chicago Married Abraham Mazur
(the had 5 children)

Lena Zwick or Becker (unsure if she is a Zwick or a Becker)
abt 1879 Vilna - Sep 14, 1931 Chicago Married Jacob Levin
(had 3 children)

David Becker: 2 children
Mary Rachel Becker abt 1873 Riga - Feb 1948 Chicago Married Issac Gottlieb
(They had 7 children)

Eugene Becker no more info
(He had a son: Samuel David Becker nov 12 1895 Libau, Russia - Jul 9 1962 Chicago
Married Minnie Aronson
(They had 3 children)

I have found some of the descendants, but do not know how to connect the dots…any suggestions
would be welcomed.

Barbara Fisher Israel
Tempe, AZ

Researching FISCHER/FISHER (Lithuania; ORLOFF/ORLOWSKI (Nasielsk, Poland); RINDSBERG, SIMON
ADLER (Czech Republic/ Austria)

Re: Son apparently named after living father #names #germany

Stephen Weinstein

Just because someone had the same name as his grandfather doesn't necessarily mean he was named for him.  Could be a coincidence.

Searching descendants of Abraham SOTZKY and Rachel HYMOVITCH from Bessarabia and a special copy of the Zohar #bessarabia

Karen <kgschneider@...>

Hoping to connect with descendants of Abraham SOTZKY on behalf of someone who owns a copy of  the “Zohar”, printed in Amsterdam, 1715, with the name A. SOTZKY, CHICAGO, ILL stamped on its cover (see lower left of attached picture).

After leaving Kishinev, Bessarabia early 1900’s, Abraham SOTZKY (PODVESOTZKY) and his family spent time in Montreal eventually settling in Chicago, Illinois around 1910 (see descendant chart).

This person would like to share information with the family and also see if the other 2 books in the series might have stayed with them. The copy he owns contains unique pictures and writings of his father’s grandfather. It is quite a long shot that someone in the family even knows about the book(s) that Abraham once owned, or that other issues might have been passed down to any of them, but we thought we would “give it a go”.

Thanks for any assistance,

 Karen Gregar Schneider

Bolingbrook, Illinois, USA


Gregar/Groger: Hoorepnik, Czechia and Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA

Popper: Amsterdam, Montgomery Co., New York, USA

JewishGen Passover Companion #JewishGenUpdates

Avraham Groll

Dear JewishGen Community,

As we all work to keep our Seders connected to our traditions in this non-traditional time, and the Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust are pleased to reissue the JewishGen Passover Companion, which contains historical and inspirational vignettes curated from JewishGen’s collection of Yizkor (Memorial) Books and other material that JewishGen volunteers and researchers have translated into English. These excerpts focus on how Passover was experienced at another time of great distress, documenting first-hand accounts about the great effort and personal risk (Mesirat Nefesh) Jews took to observe the holiday during the Holocaust. Among items included in this year’s JewishGen Passover Companion is an excerpt from the Yizkor Book of Jedwabne, Poland, written by Rabbi Chaim Yitzchak Greengrass. It describes how Jews imprisoned at Auschwitz-Birkenau managed to conduct a Seder in 1943. 

Greengrass writes:  “The celebration of this Seder night left imprints on my soul. Now, when I perform the Passover service, I understand the meaning of the statement that each man in every generation is obliged to consider himself as if he personally was redeemed from slavery into freedom. Passover of 1943 was an experience that I shall remember always. The observance of it took place at Birkenau near Auschwitz, one of the greatest annihilation camps, built by slaves to exterminate themselves and the innocent people that would follow. Planning and preparations started right after Purim. There were many things to be taken care of. The main problem was how to get the two most necessary items, matzoh and wine, for the Seder.”

To read more about this 1943 Seder at Auschwitz-Birkenau and additional Passover stories collected from Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Lithuania, and Poland, please click here  or click the seder image below.

Wishing you all a happy, healthy and safe Passover.
The JewishGen Team

Looking for relatives of Riwka Blufstein (sp.) and Kalman Holc of Biala Rawska and Lodz #poland

Alberto Guido Chester

Looking for relatives of Riwka Blufstein (sp.) and Kalman Holc.
Blufstein can be spelled Baufstein, Blauvstein and other spellings.
They were from Biala Rawska and Lodz in Poland.
They emigrated to Argentina in 1948 with their son Tobias Holc, my friend.
I have been unable to contact their relatives, probably in Israel.
Nice Jewishgenners have helped in following some leads provided by Pages of Testimony in Yad Vashem, to no avail.
Thanks in advance

Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: Son apparently named after living father #names #germany

Rodney Eisfelder

I have seen similar situations as a result of surname adoption in both France and the Rhineland. It may be that the older Joseph Mayer was originally called Mayer Joseph. When he had to register a surname, he reversed his name and became Joseph Mayer - which happened to be the name of one of his sons.
However,  the dates suggest that the older Joseph Mayer may have died before receiving a surname, and so he was posthumously given the surname adopted by his son, because otherwise there would need to be a long and complicated explanation about why father and son did not share a surname. In either case, my guess is that the older Joseph Mayer was actually Mayer Joseph. If you can find the records of the deaths referenced in the marriage record, things may become clearer.

I have also seen marriage records detailing the grandparents' status when the parents are not available to approve the marriage - these are typically Napoleonic civil records from west of the Rhine in the first half of the 1800s.

Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia

Re: Seeking SLONIMSKYSlM / Aronovsky #names

Marilyn Weinman

-- Hi Rochelle,

 I saw your post,and I'm looking for my maternal grandfather who was Max Aronovsky on his Declaration of Intention,but Max Aronowitz on his draft card. He was born in Konigsberg,Germany,which is now Kaliningrad,Russia supposedly on October 1,1876, but I also have several other dates which he claimed as his birthday ! He changed his last name to Arnold when he entered the U.S. emigrating from Montreal into Niagara Falls on June 12,1907.
I have very little information about him, other than a few documents that I've found,and I don't know if he had siblings or not !

Not sure I'm of any help,but maybe there's a connection somewhere :) Looking forward to hearing from you.

Be well and Stay Healthy 

Marilyn Weinman

Re: Overdose of quinine #general #holocaust

Diane Jacobs

It has a horrible taste and once when I was in Africa I had to take 2 pills and was seeing double for over an hour. Scary stuff.

Diane jacobd

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: "John Byng via" <>
Date: 4/7/20 4:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] Overdose of quinine #general

I went to a boarding school where we were given a mixture of Gees Linctus and Quinine for almost any illness.  We called it "Kill or Cure".  Many of us believed it was dispensed because the nasty taste of Quinine enabled the matron to determine whether we were malingering or genuinely ill on the basis that only the genuinely ill would be prepared to drink the mixture.  Reading up about Gees Linctus and Quinine now, I am surprised we survived the treatment.
Diane Jacobs

Re: Overdose of quinine #general #holocaust

John Byng

I went to a boarding school where we were given a mixture of Gees Linctus and Quinine for almost any illness.  We called it "Kill or Cure".  Many of us believed it was dispensed because the nasty taste of Quinine enabled the matron to determine whether we were malingering or genuinely ill on the basis that only the genuinely ill would be prepared to drink the mixture.  Reading up about Gees Linctus and Quinine now, I am surprised we survived the treatment.

Need help with grandfather's name change and birthplace (Maramoros?) #austria-czech #hungary #names

Marilyn Weinman

-- Dear JewishGenners,

I guess being frustrated looking for information, is something that newcomers to the geneaology search, can expect....OR is just me ??
I'm looking for my paternal Grandfather by the name of Joseph Engel. According to the info that I've obtained from relatives or doing research,he was born in the Austria-Hungary area of Maramoros ,or from what I'm able to read, Mallimorishhungan ???? He was born either on January 4,1880 or November 15,1882  in what was Vanif or Unif ( again trying to read my Aunt's handwriting ),Czechoslovakia. I'm not sure if his birth name was Joseph or possibly Yehuda, or possibly something else. I do know he changed his name from Engelman to Engel somewhere around 1900, when he came to  the U.S. to avoid serving in the military,which I guess Jews didn't want to do at that time under Emperor Franz Josef. This all  according to my Aunt, his daughter. He came to the U.S. under his cousin's last name of Markowitz, for a reason that I don't know, and that's when he changed his name to Engel.

There are seem to be so many Sub - Carpathia Czechoslovakia/ Maramoros,Hungary towns in Romania or Ukraine, I'm unsure how to find what I'm looking for !

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Be well and Stay Safe :)


Seeking Morris SKLANSKREY- Russia to USA 1900 #usa #russia


I did not know how to title this.  So here goes.  My great grandfather is Morris Sklansky.  He and 3 of his 4 children came from Russia in 1900.  We have no idea when the forth child came since he is not in the 1910 Census.  Some between then an 1920 he came to the U.S. By 1920 he started a beverage company in Kalamazoo.  It is still in the family.  The family lived lived for some time in New York but at some point they moved to Chicago as by that time my Grandfather was married and they had their first child in 1914.  By coincidence there was another Morris Sklansky living blocks away from my Great Grandfather in New York.  This Morris was apparently a widower and was 40 years old, about the same age as my great grandfather. He was living with the rest of his family.  My great grandmother's maiden name was Celia Moise.  There is some confusion as to who was the father of her son Isadore Sklansky. I have looked it up in other places that his father was Abraham Sklansky.  I am not quite sure how that worked out.  I know for sure we are related, although we have never taken a blood test. But I know my father spend a summer in Kalamazoo and lived with his Uncle, wife and daughter   I know there are some Sklansky's registered here.  What I would like to know is if any one knows about the Morris Sklansky and his family. If he has any descendants.  There is one more Morris Sklansky who was professor at Northwestern.  I did correspond with his daughter at one time and her brother.  I am pretty sure that they are not related to the Morris that is not my grandfather.  I would like to know if there are any Moises that could be related to Ceila.  I do have two family trees.  But some of the Sklansky's don't seem to be related.  This does seem pretty confusing.

A boy named Zerubavel in Tel-Aviv 1928 #israel

Yonatan Ben-Ari

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Yonatan Ben-Ari <yonibenari@...>
Date: Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:04 PM
Subject: A boy named Zerubavel in Tel-Aviv 1928
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@...>

I found amongst my late mother's childhood pictures a picture souvenir
of her boyfriend Zerubavel (no family name given. The picture was
taken in Tel-Aviv in 1928 when my mother was 14 years old. I presume
he was approximately her age. As the picture was given to her just
before she and her family emigrated to the USA , and my mother did not
return for another 43 years I presume she never saw him again.

If this picture interests anyone on this list I will be happy to send
it to them.

Happy Pesach to all and stay healthy.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

p.s. My mother's maiden name was ABRAMOWITZ later married KATZOFF.

Re: Hebrew translation request #translation #germany


Ooh, I can help with this one!

Having grown up in an observant Yekkish home, the word "Schnoder" was part of my (well, actually, my father's) vocabulary.

He would refer to a person having "Schnodered" a certain sum of money, and he had one of his many little money envelopes labelled "Schnoder-Gelt":  money that he had set aside for when he had to "Schnoder".

When men are called up to the Torah and say blessings before and after a portion of the Torah is read, this is followed by a blessing for the person, in which his name is included and he is blessed because he took part in the Torah reading.  This blessing includes an optional addition in which this person can pledge a donation to the synagogue.  The phraseology for this section is, "... ba'avur she'nodar ... ", which translates to "because he pledged [followed either by a specific sum or by "a gift" if he wants the amount to remain unannounced].  The words "he pledged" are "SHENODAR".  The money thus pledged was called his "Shenodar Gelt" or, said quickly, "Schnodergelt".

As to the Hebrew on top of the page:

"Eylu sheymos" (these are the names)

"Anshei HaKohol L"P [lePoh] sheAlu"  [the people from here who went up]

"LaTorah:"  (to the Torah:)

Have a wonderful and healthy Pesach!
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

Re: Son apparently named after living father #names #germany

Eva Lawrence

I've come across instances of of a German Jewish son having the same
forename as his father and it was invariably because
the family had to adopt a legal surname. The France and
parts of Germany was that father and eldest son had the same first
name, and I
believe that this was often imposed on Jewish name-adopters. I think
that it only happened at these watershed moments
and that the two men would generally go
on using their previous Jewish first names in situations
.although not on official documents.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: How to learn if an immigrant received US citizenship? #usa

Sarah L Meyer

I believe that permanent residents and those with a green card have social security numbers.  There are legal immigrants who are not citizens - they have TINs but are NOT eligible to vote.

Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania

Re: Help Transcribe the Cairo Geniza Online #translation

Adam Cherson

The url provided earlier is now obsolete. The correct url is:


Re: New Jersey Jewish Cemetaries #usa


Dani--It would be more helpful if you provided the name of your grandmother. Some of us know the ins and outs of online research (and Allan Jordan suggested a few) to actually find the information you seek.

Eli Savada
Bethesda MD

Looking for WEINGARTEN family #galicia #russia


I am looking for information about my great grandfather Jose Weingarten and his family. He is forn Kovel, Ukraine. He was one of the many children of Natan Weingarten and Rajel Bulning

Re: Morris Fogel going from Illinois to Poland 1921 #poland

Sally Bruckheimer

He might not have had a passport. They weren't required in early years, and then they were only for citizens, I think.

Re: Kovel, Ukr. (Volhynia Gub.) #ukraine


Im am looking for my great grandfather. His name was Jose Weingarten and he lived in Kovel, he had 7 siblings. His fathers name was Natan Weingarten and his mothers name was Rajel Bulning. He also had a wife and daugther, but we dont know their names.