Re: Meaning and Subtext of "Grundwirth" #names

David Lewin

Grund is here the ground on which a building is erected

Grundwirth is the owner of the land - as opposed to the building.
In the UK there are many such situations where we have to pay ground rent and a building is not "freehold"

David Lewin

At 16:51 21/07/2020, M.A. Miller wrote:
Iím looking for translation help with a similar common word for an
occupation or status which appears in numerous family documents from
Galicia Province in the 19th-century. The word is ďGrundwirth,Ē
sometimes spelled ďGrundwirt,Ē meaning a landlord. Iím interested in
knowing if this word has a specific implication or connotation, like
many old occupation words.

Hauswirt and sometimes Grundbesitzer can also mean ďlandlord.Ē Are
these words interchangeable, or does grundwirth have a special

Is the presence of the ďhĒ at the end significant, or is just a minor
spelling variation between Germans and Austrians?

Thank you for any help.

Mike Miller
New York, USA

Researching in Galicia:
Researching in Bessarabia:
Lipkany: WALLACH
Edineti: MEILER

Re: Removing initial I from names #names

David Lewin

At 16:01 21/07/2020, Jeffrey Cohen via wrote:
Does anyone know why an I (or yod) was sometimes removed from start of names ?
In my family Italienner became Talyena, and Israel became Srul.

Jeffrey Cohen,  jeff59471@...>

That looks like the vagaries of Yiddish - not the dropping of a Yud

David Lewin

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at

Family Tree Maker Exposes Data on 60,000 Users #announcements #general

Jan Meisels Allen


According to, Family Tree Maker had a data breach leaking 25 GB of data linked to users of the Family Tree Maker software. After being informed by WizCase the incident was remediated shortly thereafter.  Among the details leaked to the public-facing internet were email addresses, geolocation data, IP addresses, system user IDs, support messages and technical details. Some 60,000 users are thought to have been exposed in this privacy snafu.


The data breach also included 25 gigabytes of data mirrored from LLC.


‚ÄúThe leak exposed technical details about the system‚Äôs backend, which could help attackers leverage multiple cyber-attacks on Software MacKiev and its associated companies,‚ÄĚ it was claimed.


To read more see:  and


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Brooklyn Historical Society (New York City) Collection of 1,500 Digitized Maps Date Back to 17th Century #announcements #general #usa

Jan Meisels Allen



The Brooklyn Historical Society (New York City) placed online almost 1,500 digitized maps including maps for other New York City boroughs, Long Island, New York state, New Jersey and areas throughout the Eastern United States.  The collection includes maps from1562 to 2015, including transit maps, topographical maps, cultural maps and nautical charts, as well as plans for Central Park and Prospect Park.  Ore maps will be included over the coming months.


To view the map collection go to:


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


(Czech Republic) Czech Website on the Holocaust Launches Database of Victims Labeled "cik√°ni" by the Nazis and their Accomplices #holocaust # austria-czech #holocaust

Jan Meisels Allen

The Database of Victims maintained by the Institute for the Terezín Initiative has now published data about the victims of the Holocaust labeled "cikáni" by the Nazis and their accomplices on Czech territory during the Second World War. (PHOTO:


A database at has a new section of containing data about more victims of racial persecution in the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, those who were labeled "cik√°ni" during the Second World War. It was launched on 13 May 2020. Those labeled this way affected most of the Roma and Sinti people during the Second World War who were living on the territory of what is today the Czech Republic. Currently data is available there about the people who perished in the Protectorate's "Cik√°nsk√Ĺ camp" (the "Zigeunerlager" or "CT Lety") at Lety u P√≠sku, which was in operation from August 1942 to August 1943.


Since its establishment in 1993, the Institute of the Terezín Initiative (ITI - Institut Terezínské iniciativy) (it is in both Czech and English),  has been systematically dedicated to the commemoration of the Holocaust and research about Holocaust victims, and since 2008 it has published a Database of Victims at Information was first published there about those victims who had been labeled "Jews" according to the Nuremberg Laws then in effect.


The Database of Victims draws from the data published in the Terez√≠n Book of Memory (Terez√≠nsk√° pamńõtn√≠ kniha, vols. 1 and 2), which were published in 1995 by Melantrich and the Terez√≠n Initiative and contain data about the Jewish victims of the Nazi deportations from Bohemia and Moravia that took place from 1941 to 1945.


The Database of Victims has two sections, a public-facing section and one that is not accessible by the public. The public section is accessible at and contains data just about persons who were murdered or who died as a consequence of their imprisonment.  For privacy reasons they did not publish data about survivors or about those whose fates have not yet been traced.  It is possible to access data on the basis of a research request.


In the public section of the database, identification information is published about prisoners who died in the "Cik√°nsk√Ĺ camp" at Lety between August 1942 and August 1943, the time it was in operation.


The database includes name and surname, a date and place of birth, length of iprisonment and a data and place of death.


To read more see:


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: What was Ginsburg & Klausner, S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills) not listed as hotel #usa

Kay Miller

I am not sure about this hotel. Do you have a date range for it? My husband's grandfather, Isaac Miller (Isak Mueller) had a "hotel" called the Miller Gap House in Loch Sheldrake that is not listed in any publication that I have seen. I will ask Ivan tomorrow and will get back to you. Where have you looked for references to it? I also see that you have a Horowitz listed as a name you are researching.  Yetta Horowitz was married to Isaac and she cooked in several different hotels in the area, as well as the Miller Gap House. If you don't know, Loch Sheldrake is not too far from South Fallsburg. Do you have a Yetta Horowitz in your tree? Her parents were Michall and Sara (Sore) Horowitz.

Best regards,
Kay Morris Miller


Re: What To Do When You've Hit A Brick Wall #general

I read your long submission and do not have a global answer fory your
searching, but I am including some of your notes below and have
interspersed some comments and suggestions, /in italics. /

8a. *What To Do When You've Hit A Brick Wall* #general
From: Alan Reische
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 17:13:18 EDT

I've made immense progress since I started 5-6 years ago, largely
through the generosity of JewishGen members, but I seem to have hit a
brick wall. Here briefly is where I am:

        I have found my paternal GGFather, and likely his father too
but in the latter case, no surname

/                Depending where individuals lived in Europe, most of
Eastern Europe did not require last names until the early 19th century/.

* The family consistently lists themselves as 'Austrian', except for
pre-marriage when my GFather lists himself as Galician. However, my
GMother Stein was from Koenigsburg and was echt German, and it is
likely post-marriage that she influenced the description of country
of origin, given the disregard many German Jews had for their
Galitsianer co-religionists. There are family stories to that effect.
o /Galicia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Anyone from
Galicia was Austrian. People used Austrian and Galicia
interchangeably. The official language was German. Individuals
could move within the Empire, with many Jews going from Galicia
to Austria ( for example from Lemberg to Vienna). I suggest that
you do some reading on the history of the area and the changing
borders of Europe.  In addition, you can look up each of the
towns in Jewishgen's Town finder.  the chart will give you the
dates that the particular town was part of the
Austrian-Hungarian Empire, part of Poland, etc. and the time
periods. /

    The name suggests some ties to Rzeszow on my GGFather's part, and
in Yiddish the city name appears as 'Reischa' and residents as
'Reischers'. Rzeszow's Jews were significantly German-speaking. The
surname, as pointed             out, does not mean he currently lived in
Rzeszow, it describes where he originated from when he lived in a
different area.
/Rzeszow was in Galicia and part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire - it was
therefore officially German speaking. The Town Finder lists "Raysha"  as
the Yiddish name for Rzezow.  This is why you have to use alternate
             spellings in any of your searches. /

* My GGMother apparently came from Przeclaw,(from her stone) which is
@ 25 miles from Rzeszow. So, all indications are the paternal family
and my GGFather came from somewhere in that area, and the likelihood
that my GFather, a Galitsianer, could meet with approval from the
German Steins would have been marginally better as he was likely
German speaking and fit more comfortably into the Stein family.
o /As noted above, Galicia was part of the Austro-Hungarian
Empire, and German was the official language. This should
disavow you of your speculation about Galicia and "German." 
Poland did not become a nation until after WWI. It was
previously split between the Russian Empire and the
Austro-Hungarian Empire, which was Galicia. . /
* But that's speculation, and I can't get beyond that. My GFather's
naturalization papers indicated he arrived very specifically on June
15 1879, except Steve Morse tells me no ships arrived in NY on that
date, or at least have manifests, and on various occasions family
members stated they arrived in 1880 or 1881.
o /Could your Grandfather have come into a port other than NY? 
Steve Morse gives links to arrivals at a number of other ports. 
In addition, there are some manifests or parts of manifests that
are missing.
* My GFather states a very specific birth date of March 3, 1874, but
no manifest for anything close to that date lists him. I've
conducted searches with a wide variety of different data, ranging
from GGmother to siblings and nothing close turns up. Specifically,
the name 'Reische' as I've spelled it does not appear as such in any
of the European records I've searched so far, and I have never found
a Jewish family with that spelling from 1879 going forward. /One
always checks alternate spelling.  that's why Soundex is used. There
are a few listigs for Reische in Jewishgen;  there are many listings
for Reischer. /

Hope this is of some help.   Check the Gesher Galicia website.  You
might also want to attend the International Jewish Genealogy Zoom
Conference -  check and see if there are any lectures on the changing
borders, Galicia, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Avivah Pinski near Philadelphia
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA

Bessarabia region: new records found #bessarabia #ukraine

Yefim Kogan

Hello everybody,

Working with one of the microfilms, I found that everything is related to non-Jews, except one section in the end of the microfilm. It appears to be Cheder's records.  It is a name of a melamed with his students.  I see such records for the first time.  For the melamed it gives his full name, how he got permission for the cheder, and for the students surname, first name, father's name, father's estate: Merchant, Middle Class, age, amount of money family paid to melamed.  There is also a description of the room and cleanness, etc.
I got such records for three towns:  Akkerman - 7 cheders/melameds with 91 students, Khotin - 14 melameds with 223 students and Kaushany with 1 melamed with 24 students.  All these records are for 1857.

I think this is a great find and the records going to be a nice addition to our JewishGen Bessarabia collection.

If anyone would like to work on records for Akkerman and Khotin  (Kaushany I already transcribed - that is a shteitl where both of my parents lived),  please let me know.  The handwriting is not great, but readable.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia region Leader and Coordinator

Re: DNA and Gedmatch #dna

Max Heffler

Gedmatch is down for maintenance, probably due to the breach


From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Magda Fender via
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:51 PM
To: main@...
Subject: [] DNA and Gedmatch #dna


Please anyone match my gedmatch   A490637 


Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Can you help me identify this town? Nowe Skrezepiec, Poland #poland

Todd Cohn

This is the name of the town/city that was listed on an AJDC emigration index card.
I looked on JewishGen KehillaLinks and JRI Poland but didn't find anything. 
The daughter of the person who's birthplace I'm trying to find said she pronounced it "Nova Shapeecha"
Any help you can offer is much appreciated!

Re: military notbook #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan

Hello Adrian,  this is very interesting.


I assume that you find in the military notebook the Silintinsky's 41st Infantry Military Regiment.

It would be good to see a copy of that page with the name of the Regiment.

I know a very good book about this topic:¬† ‚ÄúJews in the Russian Army, 1827-1917: Drafted into Modernity‚ÄĚ, written by Yohanan Petrovsky-Shtern.¬† He did a lot of work in the archives of the Soviet Union, Poland, and gives information about sources in his book.¬† I know that there is a Military Archive in Moscow, which probably collected information.  - reference to Yohanan’s book

In our Bessarabia databases sometimes we have a records about retired military person, but most of the records are from 19 century.


Also it would interesting to know where your grandfather lived before going to the army?


Good luck to you with your research.


Yefim Kogan

Re: greek jews #sephardic

Ina Getzoff

I know that Wikepedia where you got your information says that the Edict of Expulsion ended in 1834 but in effect there were two different times that it ended. One was on Dec. 16, 1958 when the second Vatican Council formally and symbolically ended it and the second one was on March 31, 1992-500 years from when it officially started in Spain that King Juan Carlos signed the official document ending it. This was signed in a temple in Los Angeles, California. 
I don't doubt that you have some knowledge of this event but I am Sephardic and have done research on my family and this topic for many years. Hope this information is helpful to you.
Ina Getzoff (Algazi)
Delray Beach Florida

Re: Searching for records of RUSSMAN from Pinsk #belarus #names


DNA and Gedmatch #dna


Please anyone match my gedmatch   A490637 

Requesting help reading name #names #russia

Nina Tobias

Dear Helpful People,

Attached is the Ellis Island record of arrival for my paternal great-grandmother and two of six her children (lines 22-24).

Her name is written as Chaje Worobiev. She gave her sister as the nearest relative left at home. This name and other information is on the far right. I would greatly appreciate any guesses as to what is written.

fyi - her actual name was Chava Vorabyev nee Bayliss or Beiliss. She and the children traveled to Chicago to join her husband Leib Vorabyev. They became Ida and Lou Goldman. Insert laugh here.

Thanks so much,
Nina Tobias
Scottsdale, Arizona

HOROWITZ (Iasi & Odessa)
TOBIAS (Rymanow, Galicia)
SWARTZ (Iasi, Romania)

What was Ginsburg & Klausner, S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills) not listed as hotel #usa

Susan Goldsmith

Dear JewishGenners,
Does anyone know what Ginsburg & Klausner was in S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills)?  It is not listed as a hotel or bungalow community.  My great grandmother Lena Horowitz gave as her return address, on a 1907 letter, "c/o Ginsburg & Klausner".  She was a baker before emigrating to the US in 1905.
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
SF Bay Area, CA, USA
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Tomania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN) Sandomierz, Ostrowiec, Poland




Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland

June 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #jgs-iajgs #general

Jan Meisels Allen

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues‚Ķsome were posted on this discussion group but most were not‚ÄĒall postings are included below. The following are the summaries for the month of June 2020.¬† In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you and your society to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert. Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy ‚Äďmaking certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.


  • (Australia) National Library of Australia Launches New and Improved Trove
  • (Canada)¬† Queb√©c's Bill 64 Proposes Sweeping Changes to Its Privacy Regime--Including the Right to be Forgotten.
  • (European Union) EU Commission Report Says Ireland and Luxembourg Need More Muscle to Police Technology Giants
  • (European Union)¬† EU Data Protection Board 31st Plenary Session Announcements on GDPR, NoYB and More
  • (European Union)¬† EU Planning Formal Antitrust Charges Against Amazon Over Treatment of Third-Party Sellers
  • (European Union)¬† EU Data Protection Board Updates Guidelines on GDPR Consent
  • (European Union) Gala-X German- French EU Initiative for Commercial Cloud Providers
  • (European Union)¬† Google Loses In French High Court- Fined $57Million Violation of GDPR
  • (European Union)¬† More on EU Commission Report on Evaluation of GDPR
  • (France) Conseil D'Etat Judges that CNIL Cannot Prohibit Cookie Wall Practices in Blocking Website Access if Cookies are Refused.
  • (France) French Parliament Passes Hate Speech Law Permitting Fines of Social Media Companies if they Fail To Remove Illegal Content within 24 Hours
  • (Germany)¬† Facebook Loses Antitrust Decision in Germany Over Data Collection
  • Google Agrees to Pay Some Publishers in Select Countries
  • International Archives Week June 8-14, 2020
  • (Netherlands) Dutch Court Rules that a Grandmother Violated GDPR by Refusing to Remove Grandchildren's Photos from Facebook and Pinterest
  • (New Zealand)¬† Privacy Law Passed Third reading in Parliament
  • (Northern¬† Ireland)¬† EU Court Decision Prompts Northern Ireland Police to Delete Biometric Records
  • Project Gutenberg Blocked By ISPs in Italy
  • (South¬† Africa) Protection of Personal Information Act 4 of 2013
  • (Spain) Spain's Lower House to Draft 3% Digital Tax on Internet Giants
  • (UK) GPO War Heroes Fought in Both World Wars Database of Deceased
  • (US) Concerns About Politicizing the 2020 Census
  • (US) S 4051 End of Use of Warrant-Proof Encryption Legislation Introduced; Earn It Act S 3398
  • (US) USCIS Will No Longer Send Federal Register Announcement to their Subscriber List
  • (US-CA)¬† California Attorney General Submits Proposed Privacy Regulations to Office of Administrative Law
  • (US-CA) California Privacy Law Revision to Appear on November Ballot
  • (US-CA)¬† National Association of Advertisers Asks Governor Newsom to Delay Implementation of CCPA
  • (US-CA) SB 980 Privacy DNA and Illness Testing Set For Hearing on June 18 Upon Adjournment of Session
  • (US-GA) SB 372 Passes Georgia's Legislature
  • (US-Idaho)¬† Court Rules Transgender People Allowed to Change their Birth Certificates
  • (US-IA)¬† Iowa's SF 2351 Right to be Forgotten Act Dead for the Year
  • (US-MI) Senate Joint Resolution G Electronic Data and Communication Safe from Unreasonable Search and Seizure Proposed Constitutional Amendment
  • (US-NY-Yonkers) Reclaim the Records--Yonkers, NY Birth and Death Records Go Online For First time
  • (US-WA) Permanent Rule Adopted-Vital Records Rules
  • (US-WY) Wyoming Supreme Court Allows Jurisdiction in Lower Court Regarding Sex Change On Birth Certificates


The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously.  We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner.  If you are interested in any of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives.  To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG  or a subscriber of JewishGen, Avotaynu, Legal Genealogist  etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at:


The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.


These are listed alphabetically not chronologically.  Each month the locales covered differ.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee






Re: Meaning and Subtext of "Grundwirth" #names

M.A. Miller

Sorry, the word "similar" in the first sentence is a cut-and-paste error. The sentence should read, "help with a common word..."

Mike M.

Re: What happened to uncle Michel ROTMAN ? #poland

Sherri Bobish

Hi Marilyn,

Perhaps a Page of Testimony was written for him?  You can search at Yad Vashem.
This is the link to the advanced search page:

You can search by name and/or location, i.e. town of birth.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Re: FamilySearch Christening records in 1870's New York #usa #general

Sherri Bobish

"I have noticed that when a midwife was involved, the midwife likely kept records of a number of births before reporting the births.  This sometimes led to issues with the actual date of birth."

I agree with the above.  When looking at microfilm of old NYC birth records I have run across multiple birth certs in a row with the same midwife's name on each.

I'm reasonably sure the midwife did not attend six births in one day!

I do think that the birth certs were filed in a bundle by the midwife whenever she could get around to it.

Circa 1900 NYC cracked down on getting birth certs filed.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

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