Re: Seeking SEIDE from Rogoźno [Pol], Rogasen [Ger], Rogozhin [Yid], Rogóźno Wielkopolskie #germany #poland

Sherri Bobish

Searching Rogasen as birthplace on gets 330 hits.  Perhaps something there will be of assistance to you in your search.


Sherri Bobish,  Princeton, New Jersey

Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Nicole Heymans

I might add that old (roughly pre-WWII) monochrome photos were usually very fine-grained, even small almost postage stamp sized snapshots or passport photos. Scanning these at the highest resolution available (2400dpi on my scanner) shows up details that go unnoticed on the originals. And it goes without saying that all original photos should be kept, they will survive longer than IT formats, also resolution will improve in future, as will storage capacity. Scan backs of photos too, even (or particularly) if you can't read the writing.
I would not be so adamant about post-war colour photos from negatives smaller than 35mm. They are generally poor quality, in terms of subject, colour and resolution. This was a period when people became snap-happy, so if you have many views of the same scene, keep the best one or two. As for digital photos, all of us probably need to choose the 10 photos per 1000 we would like to bequeath to our descendants.

BTW, to view all messages in a thread, click on view/reply online then scroll down to "view all x messages in topic".

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

Scanning and sorting..Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Marvin Lauwasser

After I retired a few years ago, I scanned several thousand prints and have several tips.

1.  Try to get a dock-type scanner where you feed in the prints and they come out the other side.  I can feed in ~4/minute.  (Flatbed might be 2 minutes per print.)  I realize that several prints can be laid onto the flatbed but then you have the hassle of cropping each one out.  There might be apps that can do that automatically though.

2.  The digital scans will be titled in numerical order starting with scan0001, imag0001, etc.  After each scanning session, scan a colored index card to mark the stopping point.  After you've downloaded the scans to your computer's pictures folder, retain the card image on the scanner so your subsequent scanning session picks up the numbering where you left off.  Resuming scans after completely emptying the scanner will start you back at 0001.  You'll be pleased that each image retains its own distinct number. 

3.  You can also use the index card ploy during a session to keep batches of photos separated.

4.  Most sorting ends up temporal or by family.  Scans end up with "time created" metadata but it's when scanned not when photo'd.  Probably wise to go directly to sorting into family folders and subfolders.

5.  If you do know the photo's creation time, you might enter yrmon to replace the scanner's alpha mark.  For instance, a photo SCAN2689 that you know was from a wedding in June 1934 could be re-titled 34jun2689.  All photos from that event thus renamed would line up together in that family's folder.

6.  I generally just drag the pic thumbnail into the appropriate folder.  A "Preview Pane" comes in handy.

7.  A photo organizing program with facial recognition should be considered.  I'd suggest holding off on running the program though till after your sorting is complete, then run everything at once. All the faces will be grouped by similarity and you'll be asked to key in a correct name to the group individual after removing any wrongly identified thumbnail faces.

8.  If you fix an image, e.g. crop it, and want to retain the original, do a save as to the new one with a lower case letter after the number.  The new wedding image above would become 34jun2689a.

9.  Once scanned i did discard the prints.  But caution..... is there something written on the back that you would retain?

Legacy Family Tree Webinars One Each Day Free Through April #general #events

Jan Meisels Allen



Legacy Family Tree Webinars, a member of the MyHeritage family of companies,  announced for the month of April,  they will provide one free webinar from their membership library each day. They have selected classes on a 7-day rotating theme:

  • Sundays - Methodology
  • Mondays - DNA
  • Tuesdays - Ethnic Genealogy
  • Wednesdays - Technology
  • Thursdays - Around the Globe
  • Fridays - Beginners
  • Saturdays - TechZone

To see the schedule go to:


You can click on the link anytime during the day it is being offered.  You need not have to be a subscriber to participate.


I have no affiliation with Legacy Family Tree webinars nor MyHeritage and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

joannegrosman joannegrosman

As far as keeping family photos, it is not always so easy. I am the last of my immediate family and of my extended family no one has showed any interest in family history. I have been left everything. I understand and appreciate the importance of holding onto historical family photos. When I met my 2nd cousin from Israel about 15 years ago, we are all descended from Polish Jews who lived in Czestochowa I gave her copies of group photos I had from my grandmother's family. She sent them to her father a Holocaust survivor in San Francisco who was liberated from Buchenwald. He did not have one photo of his mother in his possession.
Over the years I have tried to donate photos and other memorabilia to appropriate museums: Montreal, New York, Amsterdam; I lot of work is involved to find the right match. There is a company in the US I believe called Legacy Box and they will do all the work for you: scanning, digitizing etc. Not available in Canada. I have a question: I have a large collection of WWII photos and documents and would like to donate to an organization that is involved with Jewish WWII veterans. Some things have been donated to a RCAF museum, but I still have lots more to donate.

Joanne Grosman
researching Czestochowa/Radomsko
Grosman, Bocian, Kremsdorf, Altman, Garbarski

Re: JewishGen Education DNA II class April 26-May 16 #dna

Judy Kaufman

Why is DNA II (Analyzing your Genetic Genealogy Results) being offered before DNA I (Introduction to Genetic Genealogy)?  

Rotman & Rice families of Chicago, Queens, Miami and Har Nof #usa

Neil Rosenstein

Trying to make contact with descendants of Joe Rottenberg (died in
1969 of the Koson Chassidic Dynasty) ) father of Sylvia Rice,
Meshullam Feish Rottenberg, Rivka Rotman (married Burt) and Chaya

Re: New York State Death Index #usa

Sherri Bobish


I **think** it is the neighborhood in Brooklyn in the area of Atlantic Avenue, Pacific Street, Dean Street and Bergen Street.

You can verify this by taking the address of their residence and looking at an on-line map.

Regards,   Sherri Bobish,   Princeton, NJ

Re: Re: Bobr, Belarus #belarus

Sherri Bobish


Try these tips to find people that emigrated from a specific town.  It is easiest with small shtetls.

At Steve Morse's Ellis Island portal you can search for anyone from a certain town.  You do not have to enter a name, or any other search field.  Remember that early manifests did not list town, and many towns are spelled incorrectly.  You may want to also do a soundex search, or a search by only the first few letters of the town name.  Remember to check on the correct box in the search for these options.

On either or you can search for anyone born in the town by entering the town name under place of birth on the search page.  When I have done that I have found naturalization records and other documents.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching:  RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON  FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)

Re: identify cemetery from statues in photo? #romania

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  • Hello V. Silver,

Have you asked the U. S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC for help?  I believe that they have more than one expert on Romania.

Edward David Luft

Looking for relatives by the name of Shwer and Morgenroth. #general

I am looking for relatives by the name of Shwer and Morgenroth.

Re: New York State Death Index #usa

EdrieAnne Broughton

I was working on my nephew's genealogy and found that some of those cemeteries with large quantities of names in their databases are missing many burials.  I called offices with a quantity of least 20 and found that they were in some of those cemeteries.  I first checked the cemeteries near where they lived and already had a family member buried there.  I only ended up with four that I couldn't find.

moderated "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #israel #germany #usa

Jeff at SG

The film 'Unorthodox' (free on Amazon Prime) might be of interest to those whose children will be spending their first college year in Israel. An eyeopener, at least to me.

PS  It seems there are several films with that same title.
The one I was referring to about the college year in Israel is on Amazon Prime by Anna Wexler, 2015.
Not the 2020 Netflix one with the same name or several others.
Sorry for the confusion.

Jeff Malka,

Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Marjorie Geiser

Growing up, I wasn't that interested in family photos. I was aware of one that was packed away, but NEVER knew who it was!
I have NO photos of my grandfather (Jacob LEVINE) before he and my grandmother (Flora EPSTEIN) married, and I can't find any living relatives on his side, either. So I have nothing. Nothing.
When I started my family tree, just over a year ago, I found a second cousin who had TONS of old photos (not of my grandfather, though), and she gave me some precious ones.
Today I scan all the photos I have, stored on an external hard drive, and many now are framed, with who they are on the back. My daughter wasn't interested in any of this until I started working on the family trees, but now she loves seeing these old photos. But all original photos are way too precious to discard.
Margie Geiser
Northern Arizona, USA


Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Shelley Corwin

As for how to scan: while I agree with scanning at minimal 300dpi and as a jpeg because it's common format, but remember floppy discs? can you read those now? Be aware that the higher the dpi beyond that, the more detail and defects you’ll have. Remove dust  before, and take a moment to read a bit of how to scan. if the photo is tiny it will reproduce larger better if at least 300 or 600. A jpeg is a compressed file, meant to be seen online, and often if you plan, for example, to print as a book or fine print, and if you have the ability to save as a TIFF, then do that as well. There is more “information” in a TIFF. DO NOT make only one scan of any cherished photo and DO NOT store it on ONLY one gadget such as a DVD or a flash. Best to put it on 2 things, and/or an external drive you attach by USB and put one away in a vault or let others know where, or in another home altogether. Print what you know in a list and # the photo’s. make a hard copie for each family person interested and in your files with the drives and also in your general papers. You never know when you’ll discover another relative who has similar photo’s and knows who they are, and this may not happen for a couple of generations. If you know any anecdotes or knew them personally, write those down too. We’re all quarantined now and it’s a good time to do this!  
I had my 8mm and super 8 mm put on DVD and also small specific tapes-i forget the type- because the film is deteriorating. it takes a professional, and while costco will do this, Jeff watched each inch  of my hundreds of rolls, and managed to save some that I think costco couldn’t have saved. Jeff Gall,,  New York, NY 10001   Phone# 212-643-1042. 

Re: Re: Bobr, Belarus #belarus


No, Bobr is not Bobruisk

Re: Re: Bobr, Belarus #belarus

Martha Forsyth

Oops, NOW I see that there really IS a town/shtetl Bobr (how WOULD that be pronounced?  I know Slavic pronunciation pretty well, and few of the languages have the sounds B+R with nothing between them!

Re: Selecting, scanning, identifying and desicarding old paper photographs #general

Barbara Ellman

My grandmother had two beautiful photo albums.  They were leather bound and had many photos of people I did not know.  I remember several photos of men in military uniforms.  When my grandmother died, my mother took the volumes apart and discarded the photos of those she did not know.   When I started researching the family, at my mother's behest, I asked about the photos.  I never let her off for having discarded those valuable family memories.
So first, I suggest that no images should be discarded without having digitized them.
I suggest scanning as a jpg at 600 dpi.  You want to get the most detail which is often difficult with older photos, so the higher dpi. 300 dpi is often sufficient.
To organize the photos, Google photos has lots of options including facial recognition, keywords and tags.  Free storage online.
I would contact the Center for Jewish History in New York City about donating the images.  I've referred others to this institution and all donations were received.
Stay safe, everyone!

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus, NJ USA

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

Re: Re: Bobr, Belarus #belarus

Martha Forsyth

I guess that's different from Bobruisk?  I have a photo of a couple people who I believe are from Bobruisk: Boris and Hasya Bobruskin (both b. around 1885 iin "Homel, Mohilev" and arrived 1905 or so - have a manifest for Hasya but not Boris).  They're not - as far as I know! - related to me, but their portraits (taken in NY, where they lived for a long time) were among a group of 7 photos that my paternal GF (and GM) had.  Can send if you like, or contact me directly, <theforsyths@...>

Re: New York State Death Index #usa

Susan Beecher <s_beecher@...>

I have gotten very frustrated with the NY State Death index as it shows
up on Ancestry! Most of the time it doesn't even have the death date! So
I can't even really know if it is the right person. I had my friend (for
whom I am researching her family) get the death certificates. This can
also be a challenge as there are multiple places to order them.  This is
the site from which you can order PDFs of the death certificate (only
for genealogical not legal purposes) for $15. I
complained to the site that they didn't tell you what the fees are
anywhere.  However, they sent me the PDF the next day.  They are working
from home so a paper copy will not be available (indefinitely) and is
significantly more expensive.

The actual death certificates have useful information.

Susan Beecher