Re: Is it possible to see NY Death Certificates (not indexes) and Naturalization Records (not indexes) online during Covid? #records

Susan Goldsmith

Thank you to Karen, Richard, Moishe, David, Diane and Allan.  You each had helpful suggestions that got me poring over records again!.
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals

Marcel Apsel

People should use common sense.  I had the same thing when I looked once at Ancestry and was proposed a 14 day free trial.  I accepted it and was straight away directed to a page asking me my credit card information.  I said to myself : why Ancestry needs already my credit card information during a free trial.  It should be normal been asked after the finishing of the free trial and it is me to accept their proposal or to refuse it.  Result would have been,  that I would have got a free trial for 14 days and then have to pay, because they have already my credit card information.  My common sense said – no thank you – and I skipped the free trial.  And if you think free ‘cheating’ trials are only with Ancestry, you make a big mistake.  I happens with a lot of other websites.

The same with the cookies: if you don’t accept them you cannot get on some websites.  So people, use your common sense, so as, I hope at least, you do the same when getting phishing mails.


Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium

Re: Name translation needed #names #translation


Podenszczyk = an archaic Russian word for a temporary worker hired (paid?) on "per day" basis.

Re: Name translation needed #names #translation

Chana Bonn

Jerychem is the Yiddish pronunciation of the Hebrew name Yerocham,   Yerocham appears in the book of Samuel as the father of Elkanah.  It has nothing to do with Jericho.  It is related to the word rachem-mercy.  


Harry Moatz

Hi Annette:

There certainly is a similarity of names - even beyond your story, but I do not see a clear family connection just yet.

The similarity in names arises from the fact that my grandfather, Samuel Schwartz, born in Monasterzyska, married Dora Kessler.  She was from Pruzhany, Belarus.  They met in NYC and married in Toronto.    

Moshe was born in 1815 and died in 1900.  The oral history written down in the family is that he was born and remained in Monasteryzska.  He made rope.  We do not know of any connection between him and Stanislawow.

My great grandfather, Peretz, lived for a while in Stanislawow, possibly sometime not long before WWI and definitely after the war.  He may have died there.  His home was shelled during the war and he and my great grandmother survived in the basement.  I do not have good dates for any of this.

It is the family's understanding that all of Moshe's children were born in Monasterzyska. The earliest connection to Stanislawow I have found is with Moshe's son, Mordachai, better known as Markus.  Mordachai married at age 25 Chale Sure Ebert in 1880.  I presume Mordachai moved to the Stanislawow for business not long before 1880, met Chale and they married.  They had 15 children.  Mordachai was my grandfather's uncle, and most of Mordachai's children emigrated to the US.  

I am in the process of identifying all Schwartzes (including spelling variations) from Monasterzyska via and will chart them and their families from info in the manifests or possibly naturalization documents.  I'll try to do the same for Stanislawow-associated Schwartzes per stevemorse,   I'll share this info with you when I pull it together.  I'm also planning on posting to Viewmate some 20th Century Monasterzyska-associated Schwartz metrical records for translation in the next week for inclusion in the "chart."


Re: are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general

Julia Trainor

Yes MyHeritage has some great benefits!

MyHeritage hosts small trees free of charge, so it has family trees that are not on other sites.  I have found DNA matches on AncestryDNA but the trees are on MyHeritage.  MyHeritage can be a gold mine.   I recently found my (non-Jewish) great great grandmother on a MyHeritage tree.   She had left her family and gone to live with another man a long way away.   She used his name for the rest of her life, and her death was registered under that name.   The MyHeritage tree indexed her under her assumed name, her maiden name and her married name.   This indexing retrieves large numbers of trees, but I scanned hundreds of trees and she jumped out from the screen!   There is no other way I would have found her.

Another advantage of MyHeritage is its ownership of Legacy software, which I use on my own computer.   I get MyHeritage hints in Legacy, which is interesting and useful.

I like the fact that MyHeritage owns and I think I will transfer my tree to Geni when I am older, so that it will be freely available in the public domain and indexed by Google for any descendants to find their roots in the future.  

It is possible to adopt a strategic approach:  Subscribe to a site for a year and do some intensive research on that site.

Best wishes for your  research
Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia
Searching Jewish ancestors from Austrian Czech Lands:  AUSPITZER, DEUTSCH, FESSLER, GLESINGER, GOTTLIEB, SCHMIDL, WEINGARTEN

Jewishgen Latvia Research Division (formerly Latvia SIG) Conference 2020 #courland #latvia #russia #events

Arlene Beare

Dear Friends

 We are delighted to invite you to the annual meeting of the Jewishgen Latvia Research Division.


 This year the meeting will be held virtually during the 40th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy  and you will need to register for free sessions at this link:


 (We recommend that you watch on the largest screen you have) We will give you brief updates on our work this year and then we’ll open the floor to questions and a discussion. We are busy with some exciting projects that will interest you.


The meeting will take place on 13 August 2020 at:

8.15am PT

10.15am CT

11.15am ET

16.15pm UK

17.15pm South Africa

18.15pm Israel

1.15am Sydney (Friday)

 For any further information please contact me at- agold13@... Looking forward to seeing you there.


 Arlene BeareCo-Director Latvia Research Division



Re: Wedding Announcement errors.. question #general

Deborah Blinder

I'm a retired newspaper copy editor. I don't know what the procedure was in 1908 at the Boston Globe, but I can tell you that when I was working, this sort of information was very often provided by the family, very often on a fill-in-the-blanks form provided by the newspaper. It was then typed in by newsroom clerks. If the form was filled in by hand (more likely than not, especially in 1908), it's possible that the clerk misread the submitter's handwriting. It's equally possible that the submitter ticked the wrong box indicating the best man's relationship to the groom. The bottom line is this: It's best to consider any information you get from a newspaper birth, engagement, marriage or death announcement as nothing more than a clue until you have confirmed the information from primary sources. In this case, that would mean finding out who Frank's parents were and seeing how they're related to (or if they are the same as) the groom's.

This, of course, is not to say you shouldn't trust anything you find in a newspaper. But you have to consider how the information was gathered. A news story, written by the reporter who gathered the information and edited by one or more editors, generally will be more reliable than a society-page announcement.
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)

Re: JewishGen U.S. Research Division Launched #jgs-iajgs #usa

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt

Detailed tree of descendants of Reb. Chaim of Volozhin #lithuania

Yonatan Ben-Ari

There is a theory that maternal great great grandmother Sarah Hinde
(married to Shlomo KANTOR of Pinsk/Karlin) was a descendant of Reb.
Chaim of Volozhin. I do not know her maiden name. In one scribbled
note I saw the name LANDAU. I am aware that Itzaleh the son of Reb.
Chaim had a daughter who was married to a Reb. Shmuel LANDAU.

I haven't found her name in any of the published trees of Reb. Chaim
which I've seen. Does any one who is doing Reb. Chaim's tree know of
the above Sarah Hinde KANTOR?

Shavua tov

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Re: Mt. Sharon Cemetery #general

Kenneth Ryesky

Mt. Sharon does not seem to have a website, so searching for any interments there which are not on the general cemetery databases (Find-a-Grave, Billion Graves, etc) cannot be done from your computer.  Approximately 7 years ago, I stopped by there to make inquiry regarding an interment of interest, and was told by the caretaker that the office guy/gal was out on an errand and would not return until the afternoon.
Following an unproductive walk through the cemetery as the heat increased on the hot summer day, I then walked the 3 kilometers to Mr. Lebanon Cemetery, which also had (and apparently still has) no online accessible data of its own, but the office was staffed and the personnel there were quite helpful.
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia

Carol Rubin



Annette Weiss

Hi Harry,

I'm not sure this will help, but we may have a connection somewhere along the line.

My Paternal great grand mother's name was Helen (Yehudit) Teiksler born 1858, and her ship manifest from 1906 indicates that she was from Stanislawow. She had 2 sons, Abraham and Israel, and Abraham had a son Moishe.

Helen was married to Samuel Benjamin Zweifler in Stanislawow, but since it was a religious one, not civil, it was not sanctioned by the Austro-Hungarian government, and she, Abraham, Israel and Moishe all retained the Teiksler name.

When Abraham married, his marriage certificate confirms the above names.  However, it also indicates that Helen's parents were Hersh Tzvi Schwartz and Miriam Kessler.

Just on the basis of similar names, does any of this ring a bell to you ...may we possibly be distant cousins?
By the way, I have run into similar problems with the lack of available records in Galicia.

I'd appreciate you getting back to me one way or another ... thanks!

Annette Weiss
New York City

Re: Passenger lists #records #lithuania

Marjorie Geiser

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 06:04 AM, Ani Home wrote:
Hersch Hoffman

Looking at the manifest for Hersch Hoffman, on the Helvetia in 1889, it appears he is not alone; he has a 10 year old Dora with him; it's on the next page, below him.

Arizona, USA


Re: Brick Wall: Help Needed #ukraine

Jx. Gx.

Hi Dawn,

Have you tried searching for the ship manifest containing the name of your ggf Edward. Go to or the Ellis Island site
The manifest will fill in some of the missing information including the name of the ship and actual date of arrival in NYC.

Jeffrey Gee

Re: Finding a Long Lost Cousin - Unraveling a Clue #general


Hello Carl,
On Ancestry, I found that Norma died in New Jersey. Then I checked and found several articles about her including one about the death of her daughter due to a car accident. The newspaper articles identified her husband as Herbert Rabinowitz, who also died in New Jersey. I did not find a marriage record. I did however, find a marriage record for her parents ( see below) Also, the 1920 census provides names of siblings for Bertha and other famly members, which may be helpful in tracking down long lost family members. (see census record below) - article about Norma receiving an award, with a photo. Let me know if you don't have access to it and I'll clip it for you. - article about the daughter's (Ann) death in Sep. 1975. She has a brother named Daniel - article about a burglary at the Rabinowitz home

New Jersey death index
Norma Rabinowitz
Age:     57
Birth Date:     25 Jan 1938
Death Date:     19 Dec 1995
Death Place:     Fort Lee Borough, Bergen, New Jersey, USA

Herbert F. Rabinowitz
Social Security Number:     091-30-3670
Birth Date:     7 Dec 1937
Issue Year:     1954-1956
Issue State:     New York
Last Residence:     07024, Fort Lee, Bergen, New Jersey, USA
Death Date:     1 Jun 1989

Name: Joseph Kaplan
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Feb 1937
Event Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Event Place (Original): Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Nathan Kaplan
Mother's Name: Sarah Levin Kaplan
Spouse's Name: Bertha D Kaplan
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Kaplan
Spouse's Mother's Name: Fannie Gelfont

Name: Bertha Kaplan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 32, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Event Place (Original): Philadelphia Ward 32, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1913
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 11

Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Joseph Kaplan    Head    M    34    Russia
Fanny Kaplan    Wife    F    33    Russia
Sarah Kaplan    Daughter    F    9    Pennsylvania
Bertha Kaplan    Daughter    F    7    Pennsylvania
Hymen Kaplan    Brother    M    50    Russia
Dora Kaplan    Sister-in-law    F    47    Russia
Ida Kaplan    Niece    F    16    Russia
Celia Kaplan    Niece    F    14    Pennsylvania
Frank Kaplan    Nephew    M    8    Pennsylvania
May Kaplan    Daughter    F    6    Pennsylvania
David Malofsky    Lodger    M    20    Pennsylvania

Re: Ancestry Faces $250 Million Class Action Lawsuit Over Auto-Renewals


Good.  It's a very annoying feature and Ancestry isn't the only company to do it.

Re: Need Help Interpreting Ellis Island Manifest #records

Jx. Gx.


On page 1 of your grandmother's manifest there is an "X" next to her name. I believe that means she was detained.  Women traveling alone or with children were detained until a husband, brother or other family member could be contacted.  At the end of the manifest there should be a separate listing of detainees.  My grandmother was also detained for this same reason until her husband came to collect her.  In her case, the detainee list was typed. If the list was typed in your grandmother's case that might give you answers to some of your questions.

Jeffrey Gee

Re: Research individuals in France/MEYER #france

Barbara Stein


Many thanks!  This is incredibly helpful and I will find all the records you list.  What intrigues me is that, given these data, Frederique would have been a widow at age 16yrs.  Do you know if marriages that young were common in the community?  She would have then married Solomon at age 18yrs.

I also noticed that in Lembach there was an Emanuel Meyer and a Michael Meyer having children in the same years as Solomon was having children.  Do you know if they were related?  I have been told that Solomon was from Bavaria.  I do not know when, how or why he settled in Lembach.

Barbara Stein

Russia census 1897 #records #russia


Is there a way to see Russian census 1897 online?

Ella Raber

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