Date   

Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver #rabbinic

Rachel
 

Hello

Does anyone know of a family tree for Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver( 5547-5613)
= (1786 - 1852). Specifically, I am trying to find out whether he had a
daughter called Faigle. I know his father was Rabbi Yaakov Chaver and that
he had 2 sons Rabbi Yosef Chaver and Rabbi Moshe Rabinowicz. He served as
the Rabbi and head of the rabbinical court in Ruzhany for fourteen years,
from 5579 to 5593 (1819-1833)
The Ruzhany Yizkor book also tells of a Reb Itzele teaching at the Yeshiva.
I am wondering whether this could be one and the same person? The reason for
my question is that I know my gggf Reb Itzele (Yitzchak) taught at the Beis
Midrash in Ruzhany and was a follower of Rabbi Ya'akov Me'ir the "Jalowka
Tzaddik". Whilst researching Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver I read ' While he
was still in Ruzhany, he would respond about matters of Halacha to rabbis of
near and far communities. Among those with whom he corresponded ........
Tzadik Rabbi Yaakov Meir of Jalowka.'

I realise that this is a long shot but the dates could be about right and as
ever any possible lead is worth following

Regards

Rachel Poole
bill.johra@gmail.com

Searching

LEVIN / Izabelin /Svisloch /Liverpool /London
Lypsczyz/Lipshitz - Svisloch / Liverpool
Cohen - Courland/Latvia/London
Silver - Russian Poland / London


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver #rabbinic

Rachel
 

Hello

Does anyone know of a family tree for Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver( 5547-5613)
= (1786 - 1852). Specifically, I am trying to find out whether he had a
daughter called Faigle. I know his father was Rabbi Yaakov Chaver and that
he had 2 sons Rabbi Yosef Chaver and Rabbi Moshe Rabinowicz. He served as
the Rabbi and head of the rabbinical court in Ruzhany for fourteen years,
from 5579 to 5593 (1819-1833)
The Ruzhany Yizkor book also tells of a Reb Itzele teaching at the Yeshiva.
I am wondering whether this could be one and the same person? The reason for
my question is that I know my gggf Reb Itzele (Yitzchak) taught at the Beis
Midrash in Ruzhany and was a follower of Rabbi Ya'akov Me'ir the "Jalowka
Tzaddik". Whilst researching Rabbi Yitzchak Izak Chaver I read ' While he
was still in Ruzhany, he would respond about matters of Halacha to rabbis of
near and far communities. Among those with whom he corresponded ........
Tzadik Rabbi Yaakov Meir of Jalowka.'

I realise that this is a long shot but the dates could be about right and as
ever any possible lead is worth following

Regards

Rachel Poole
bill.johra@gmail.com

Searching

LEVIN / Izabelin /Svisloch /Liverpool /London
Lypsczyz/Lipshitz - Svisloch / Liverpool
Cohen - Courland/Latvia/London
Silver - Russian Poland / London


Re: Pisarchini, Ukraine #general

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Michael and Stephanie Chauss!
I think You may need the village Pishchane 16 km to the NW >from
Zolotonosha on the river Supij (now belongs to Zolotonosha district),
rather old (founded in the 10th century). In 1922 there were 7135
persons, 1923 - 1929 it was the district centre. Till recently it was
a succesful agriculture centre. As in the 19th c. there were 7 inns
and in 1897 there were more than non-Orthodox inhabitants it should
have had a substantial Jewish community.
Regards,
Igor Holyboroda, Lviv
P.S. When my rested father was still working the name of one of his
collaborators was Chauss, but I don't know what area he originated from.

Michael and Stephanie Chauss <mschauss@comcast.net> wrote:

Today I obtained the naturalization documentation for my great grandmother,
Anna Chauss. On it, she states that my great grandfather, Isaac Chauss, was
born in "Pisarchini", which I cannot locate.

Anna was born, married Isaac, and last lived in Krasenivka. I believe that
this was a shtetl near Zolotonosha (my great aunt's naturalization documents
refer to Zolotonosha, Krasenivka and Yabluneve, all in or Poltava. The
nearest town that I can locate, with a name similar to Pisarchini is Pishcane,
just outside of Kremenchuk, about 130 km. >from Zolotonosha.

Can anyone provide insight or knowledge on Pishcane, and whether I might be
on the right track? I have ordered my great grandfather's naturalization
documents, but will not be able to view them until January 2 (providing he
states his precise birthplace on them).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pisarchini, Ukraine #general

Igor Holyboroda
 

Dear Michael and Stephanie Chauss!
I think You may need the village Pishchane 16 km to the NW >from
Zolotonosha on the river Supij (now belongs to Zolotonosha district),
rather old (founded in the 10th century). In 1922 there were 7135
persons, 1923 - 1929 it was the district centre. Till recently it was
a succesful agriculture centre. As in the 19th c. there were 7 inns
and in 1897 there were more than non-Orthodox inhabitants it should
have had a substantial Jewish community.
Regards,
Igor Holyboroda, Lviv
P.S. When my rested father was still working the name of one of his
collaborators was Chauss, but I don't know what area he originated from.

Michael and Stephanie Chauss <mschauss@comcast.net> wrote:

Today I obtained the naturalization documentation for my great grandmother,
Anna Chauss. On it, she states that my great grandfather, Isaac Chauss, was
born in "Pisarchini", which I cannot locate.

Anna was born, married Isaac, and last lived in Krasenivka. I believe that
this was a shtetl near Zolotonosha (my great aunt's naturalization documents
refer to Zolotonosha, Krasenivka and Yabluneve, all in or Poltava. The
nearest town that I can locate, with a name similar to Pisarchini is Pishcane,
just outside of Kremenchuk, about 130 km. >from Zolotonosha.

Can anyone provide insight or knowledge on Pishcane, and whether I might be
on the right track? I have ordered my great grandfather's naturalization
documents, but will not be able to view them until January 2 (providing he
states his precise birthplace on them).


World War I Records On Line To Commemorate Beginning of WWI in 2014 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

2014 is the 100th anniversary of the beginning of World War I. A number of
archives are putting on line access to their WWI records. As more countries
decide to include records on their websites to commemorate WWI their
websites will be announced. There are other websites that focus on the
history of World War I- what is being mentioned here are those websites that
include records. The most recent of these include:

Australia
National Archives of Australia
Records of Australian servicemen and women who served in World War I in the
first Australian Imperial Force (AIF) are preserved in the National
Archives.
Gallipoli and the Anzacs Go to: http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/

Canada
Canadian War Museum See:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/guerre/home-e.aspx
War Diaries of WWI- Canada- Library and Archives Canada. This database
contains the digitized War Diaries of the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF)
units. >from the start of the First World War, CEF units were required to
maintain a daily account of their 'Actions in the Field.' This log was
called a War Diary. See:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/02015201_e.html#The%20War%20D
iaries
[MODERATOR NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/bEVCeD ]
Veterans Affairs Canada
See: http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/history/first-world-war

New Zealand
The New Zealand Government has developed WW100, a program to mark the First
World War centenary >from 2014 to 2018.
See: http://ww100.govt.nz/
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/first-world-war
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/researching-first-world-war-soldiers

The Scottish College of Physicians
an index of doctors in Scotland >from World War I. All doctors in the country
at the time were required to register as part of the war effort. The indexes
contain a surprising amount of detail, such as the full name of the doctor,
educational qualifications, current address, age and specialties. In total,
some 2,150 doctors are listed. The records are listed alphabetically by name
and can also be searched by keyword. Access is free -
http://smsec.rcpe.ac.uk/

UK
The National Archives has launched new First World War portal. In addition,
there will be a rolling series of digitized record releases over the next
several months. The new portal makes it easy to access all the collections
from one convenient location. Included are record collections of medals, RAF
officers, merchant seamen, army nurses, prisoners of war, Royal Navy
volunteer reserve, women?s Royal Air Force, women?s Royal Naval Service,
etc. - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/first-world-war/
Go to: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/first-world-war/

Forces War Records
The site was created approximately five years ago upon the request of some
Forces Reunited members who were looking for information on their ancestors
but had come up against dead ends with the usual genealogy sites. Since
inception we have gone on to add over five million name records and are
currently adding over 200,000 records a month. The Forces War Records
exclusively has the British Jewry Book of Honor was published in 1922 in
London to permanently record and honor the contribution made by the 50,000
Jews who served in the British and colonial forces during World War I.
Records in this collection are likely to include the following: Name, rank,
number, battalion, regiment and medals awarded ?as a minimum, some records
will have more fields than this. Some record collections are free access but
most have a subscription fee of £8.95 for four weeks access.

Imperial War Museum.
IWM is leading the First World War Centenary Partnership, a network of over
1,600 local, regional, national and international cultural and educational
organizations >from 27 countries around the world.
See: http://www.iwm.org.uk/centenary
http://www.livesofthefirstworldwar.org/

First World War Centenary lead by the Imperial War Museum
http://www.1914.org
See http://www.1914.org/about/family-history for a list of databases
under the project >from various archives.

Wales
The National Library of Wales has launched a new website called Cymru 1914 -
The Welsh Experience of the First World War. The website is a collaborative
effort developed in partnership with several universities and archives in
Wales. It commemorates the impact the First World War had on Wales. The
website contains a collection of newspapers, images, sound and archival
material >from the era. Access to the website is free. See:
http://cymru1914.org/en/home

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen World War I Records On Line To Commemorate Beginning of WWI in 2014 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

2014 is the 100th anniversary of the beginning of World War I. A number of
archives are putting on line access to their WWI records. As more countries
decide to include records on their websites to commemorate WWI their
websites will be announced. There are other websites that focus on the
history of World War I- what is being mentioned here are those websites that
include records. The most recent of these include:

Australia
National Archives of Australia
Records of Australian servicemen and women who served in World War I in the
first Australian Imperial Force (AIF) are preserved in the National
Archives.
Gallipoli and the Anzacs Go to: http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/

Canada
Canadian War Museum See:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/guerre/home-e.aspx
War Diaries of WWI- Canada- Library and Archives Canada. This database
contains the digitized War Diaries of the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF)
units. >from the start of the First World War, CEF units were required to
maintain a daily account of their 'Actions in the Field.' This log was
called a War Diary. See:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/02015201_e.html#The%20War%20D
iaries
[MODERATOR NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/bEVCeD ]
Veterans Affairs Canada
See: http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/history/first-world-war

New Zealand
The New Zealand Government has developed WW100, a program to mark the First
World War centenary >from 2014 to 2018.
See: http://ww100.govt.nz/
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/first-world-war
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/researching-first-world-war-soldiers

The Scottish College of Physicians
an index of doctors in Scotland >from World War I. All doctors in the country
at the time were required to register as part of the war effort. The indexes
contain a surprising amount of detail, such as the full name of the doctor,
educational qualifications, current address, age and specialties. In total,
some 2,150 doctors are listed. The records are listed alphabetically by name
and can also be searched by keyword. Access is free -
http://smsec.rcpe.ac.uk/

UK
The National Archives has launched new First World War portal. In addition,
there will be a rolling series of digitized record releases over the next
several months. The new portal makes it easy to access all the collections
from one convenient location. Included are record collections of medals, RAF
officers, merchant seamen, army nurses, prisoners of war, Royal Navy
volunteer reserve, women?s Royal Air Force, women?s Royal Naval Service,
etc. - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/first-world-war/
Go to: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/first-world-war/

Forces War Records
The site was created approximately five years ago upon the request of some
Forces Reunited members who were looking for information on their ancestors
but had come up against dead ends with the usual genealogy sites. Since
inception we have gone on to add over five million name records and are
currently adding over 200,000 records a month. The Forces War Records
exclusively has the British Jewry Book of Honor was published in 1922 in
London to permanently record and honor the contribution made by the 50,000
Jews who served in the British and colonial forces during World War I.
Records in this collection are likely to include the following: Name, rank,
number, battalion, regiment and medals awarded ?as a minimum, some records
will have more fields than this. Some record collections are free access but
most have a subscription fee of £8.95 for four weeks access.

Imperial War Museum.
IWM is leading the First World War Centenary Partnership, a network of over
1,600 local, regional, national and international cultural and educational
organizations >from 27 countries around the world.
See: http://www.iwm.org.uk/centenary
http://www.livesofthefirstworldwar.org/

First World War Centenary lead by the Imperial War Museum
http://www.1914.org
See http://www.1914.org/about/family-history for a list of databases
under the project >from various archives.

Wales
The National Library of Wales has launched a new website called Cymru 1914 -
The Welsh Experience of the First World War. The website is a collaborative
effort developed in partnership with several universities and archives in
Wales. It commemorates the impact the First World War had on Wales. The
website contains a collection of newspapers, images, sound and archival
material >from the era. Access to the website is free. See:
http://cymru1914.org/en/home

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Polish High School Class Picture #general

Ayana Kimron Genealogy
 

Isabel,
About the high school photo of Henry Cymerman - did you notice the
Fencing team at the bottom row?
They may be your link to the tournaments that took place around 1928
Olympic games.
The Polish Fencing team won bronze medal and at least one member was
from the Warsaw Fencing league. So maybe this photo was taken in those
circumstances.
It is possible that one of the older men in the photo center was not a
teacher but rather a Fencing trainer (or champion) who came to watch
the students Fencing games.
By the way, there was a Fencing sportsman named Josef Radzicki -
different generation but maybe he was Josef Junior.

Bottom line: Polish Sports expert/archive may be able to help you here.

Ayana KimRon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish High School Class Picture #general

Ayana Kimron Genealogy
 

Isabel,
About the high school photo of Henry Cymerman - did you notice the
Fencing team at the bottom row?
They may be your link to the tournaments that took place around 1928
Olympic games.
The Polish Fencing team won bronze medal and at least one member was
from the Warsaw Fencing league. So maybe this photo was taken in those
circumstances.
It is possible that one of the older men in the photo center was not a
teacher but rather a Fencing trainer (or champion) who came to watch
the students Fencing games.
By the way, there was a Fencing sportsman named Josef Radzicki -
different generation but maybe he was Josef Junior.

Bottom line: Polish Sports expert/archive may be able to help you here.

Ayana KimRon


Sandal Hungary #hungary

Peggy Morrow
 

In his 1914 US passport application, my great-great uncle Leopold Edelman
says he was born in Sandal, Hungary in 1856. I can't find Sandal, Hungary
in JewishGen or Google.

Please help with suggestions on what this town is or resources to check.

Thank you!

Peggy Morrow
Hoffman Estates, IL
Researching BRETTSCHNEIDER BRETSZNEIDER BRETT SCHNEIDER GELLER ZIMMERMAN
from Korolowka (Oleyovo-Korolevka Ukraine), Galicia and St. Louis; MORROWITZ
MOROVITZ MORROW GOLDSTEIN >from Iasi, Romania and Philadelphia; KORNFELD
from Bardejov, Slovakia and Chicago; EDELMAN >from Hungary, Cleveland and
Chicago; NEWMAN, BLOOM, BLUM >from Hungary, Chicago, and McKeesport PA;
KRAMER, ZUKER, MONDSCHEIN >from Rzeszow, Poland, Chicago, and Springfield OH

Moderator: Sandal was in the Sztropko district of Zemplen megye. It is now Sandal,
Slovakia. The Jewish population was not large enough to list in the JewishGen
Communities Database but this place is in the JewishGen Gazetteer at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~gazetteer The JewishGen Hungary
database also includes records >from Sandal.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Sandal Hungary #hungary

Peggy Morrow
 

In his 1914 US passport application, my great-great uncle Leopold Edelman
says he was born in Sandal, Hungary in 1856. I can't find Sandal, Hungary
in JewishGen or Google.

Please help with suggestions on what this town is or resources to check.

Thank you!

Peggy Morrow
Hoffman Estates, IL
Researching BRETTSCHNEIDER BRETSZNEIDER BRETT SCHNEIDER GELLER ZIMMERMAN
from Korolowka (Oleyovo-Korolevka Ukraine), Galicia and St. Louis; MORROWITZ
MOROVITZ MORROW GOLDSTEIN >from Iasi, Romania and Philadelphia; KORNFELD
from Bardejov, Slovakia and Chicago; EDELMAN >from Hungary, Cleveland and
Chicago; NEWMAN, BLOOM, BLUM >from Hungary, Chicago, and McKeesport PA;
KRAMER, ZUKER, MONDSCHEIN >from Rzeszow, Poland, Chicago, and Springfield OH

Moderator: Sandal was in the Sztropko district of Zemplen megye. It is now Sandal,
Slovakia. The Jewish population was not large enough to list in the JewishGen
Communities Database but this place is in the JewishGen Gazetteer at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~gazetteer The JewishGen Hungary
database also includes records >from Sandal.


Bratislava Exhibit and New Book on Labor Battalion #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

Yad Vashem has mounted an on-line exhibition on Bratislava that should =
be of interest to anyone researching Pozsony/Pressburg, Hungary. Go to =
http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/communities/bratislava/index.as=
p Yad Vashem and University of Nebraska Press also recently published =
"Conscripted Slaves: Hungarian Jewish Forced Laborers on the Eastern =
Front=94 by Robert Rozett, Director of the Yad Vashemn Libraries.
=20
Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator


Hungary SIG #Hungary Bratislava Exhibit and New Book on Labor Battalion #hungary

viviankahn@...
 

Yad Vashem has mounted an on-line exhibition on Bratislava that should =
be of interest to anyone researching Pozsony/Pressburg, Hungary. Go to =
http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/communities/bratislava/index.as=
p Yad Vashem and University of Nebraska Press also recently published =
"Conscripted Slaves: Hungarian Jewish Forced Laborers on the Eastern =
Front=94 by Robert Rozett, Director of the Yad Vashemn Libraries.
=20
Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator


Tarnopol (Galicia/Ukraine) 1910 Census - List of Surnames #poland

Pamela Weisberger
 

Gesher Galicia has recently completed the indexing of the 1910
Tarnopol Jewish Census. The data will be uploaded to the All Galicia
Database in late January.

We have posted the list of surnames found in the census here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/tarnopol-1910-jewish-census-surname-list/

Names are listed as they appear in the index, transcribed by our
indexing team >from the handwritten census which, itself, was probably
re-copied >from the Austrian original.

(The original Austrian Empire census records had many more fields.
The communities or districts sent the records back Vienna so the data
could be extracted and statistics on the Empire's holdings created. An
article by Johnathan D. Shea, founding president of the Polish
Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast, "Austrian
Census Returns 1869-1890," will appear in the next issue of "The
Galitzianer." He goes into depth about the history behind the
creation of these censuses, including instructions given by
high-ranking local officials to the paid enumerator and the meticulous
way the entries were checked for accuracy.)

Interpreting handwriting can be tricky. In most cases, the handwriting
is correctly transcribed, but the enumerator making the original entry
misspelled a name. We plan to issue corrections to errors in
transcription as they become evident, and possibly add annotations,
provided by researchers, of what the correct name probably was, despite
a misspelling in the official record.

Many "double names' ( or hyphenated names) typically found in
Galician metrical records are here: the result of the Habsburg
Empire's non-recognition of Jewish religious marriages, as opposed to
civil marriages registered with the government, which the majority of
Galician Jews resisted.

Children >from these marriages were registered in birth records as
'illegitimate' and there were numerous variations in surnames were
assigned. Most of the religiously-married women -- listed as "ritual
wife" in the census -- retained their maiden names and children were
assigned the mother's name unless -- sometimes -- the father showed up
in person where vital records were registered to make a legal claim to
be the father. Even then, with large families, researchers will notice
great variation in how names were entered in the record books. Within
one family, the first child might carry the mother's name, a later
sibling, the father's name and sometimes no surname would be listed at
all for many of the children.
As these children married and had their own children more double names
would crop up, much to the frustration of researchers.

A few such examples are:

BERLAS f. FRAUENGLASS ,
BURSTIN f. SILBERMANN
KOHN recht HALPERN
WOLFZAHN f. HIRSCHHORN
DERFLER vel THUMIN

"Vel" is >from the Latin, which translates to "also known as." The
resident was known by both names, probably as a result of a religious
marriage where the person might carry the mother's name and, at other
times, by the father's name. (If appearing between two given names,
this usually represents the Jewish versus secular surname, or a
nickname/kinnui, versus legal given name.)

"Recte" translates to "legally" and would mean that this surname
was the "legal" name.

"False" or ("f") implies a name change by usage, not by legal means.
This term might also be considered the reverse of "recte."

All of these notations are subject to various interpretations,
however, given the complicated system of registering Jewish births,
deaths and marriages in Galicia.

I cannot provide more information on these entries now, but you can
read about the project in more detail -- and view examples (annotated)
of the actual census here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/tarnopol-1910-census/

Note that an earlier version of this list had many names missing, so
it's worth taking a second look at the list now.

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
http://www.geshergalicia.org
http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/tarnopol-1910-census
http://www.geshergalicia.org/galitzianer/


JRI Poland #Poland Tarnopol (Galicia/Ukraine) 1910 Census - List of Surnames #poland

Pamela Weisberger
 

Gesher Galicia has recently completed the indexing of the 1910
Tarnopol Jewish Census. The data will be uploaded to the All Galicia
Database in late January.

We have posted the list of surnames found in the census here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/tarnopol-1910-jewish-census-surname-list/

Names are listed as they appear in the index, transcribed by our
indexing team >from the handwritten census which, itself, was probably
re-copied >from the Austrian original.

(The original Austrian Empire census records had many more fields.
The communities or districts sent the records back Vienna so the data
could be extracted and statistics on the Empire's holdings created. An
article by Johnathan D. Shea, founding president of the Polish
Genealogical Society of Connecticut and the Northeast, "Austrian
Census Returns 1869-1890," will appear in the next issue of "The
Galitzianer." He goes into depth about the history behind the
creation of these censuses, including instructions given by
high-ranking local officials to the paid enumerator and the meticulous
way the entries were checked for accuracy.)

Interpreting handwriting can be tricky. In most cases, the handwriting
is correctly transcribed, but the enumerator making the original entry
misspelled a name. We plan to issue corrections to errors in
transcription as they become evident, and possibly add annotations,
provided by researchers, of what the correct name probably was, despite
a misspelling in the official record.

Many "double names' ( or hyphenated names) typically found in
Galician metrical records are here: the result of the Habsburg
Empire's non-recognition of Jewish religious marriages, as opposed to
civil marriages registered with the government, which the majority of
Galician Jews resisted.

Children >from these marriages were registered in birth records as
'illegitimate' and there were numerous variations in surnames were
assigned. Most of the religiously-married women -- listed as "ritual
wife" in the census -- retained their maiden names and children were
assigned the mother's name unless -- sometimes -- the father showed up
in person where vital records were registered to make a legal claim to
be the father. Even then, with large families, researchers will notice
great variation in how names were entered in the record books. Within
one family, the first child might carry the mother's name, a later
sibling, the father's name and sometimes no surname would be listed at
all for many of the children.
As these children married and had their own children more double names
would crop up, much to the frustration of researchers.

A few such examples are:

BERLAS f. FRAUENGLASS ,
BURSTIN f. SILBERMANN
KOHN recht HALPERN
WOLFZAHN f. HIRSCHHORN
DERFLER vel THUMIN

"Vel" is >from the Latin, which translates to "also known as." The
resident was known by both names, probably as a result of a religious
marriage where the person might carry the mother's name and, at other
times, by the father's name. (If appearing between two given names,
this usually represents the Jewish versus secular surname, or a
nickname/kinnui, versus legal given name.)

"Recte" translates to "legally" and would mean that this surname
was the "legal" name.

"False" or ("f") implies a name change by usage, not by legal means.
This term might also be considered the reverse of "recte."

All of these notations are subject to various interpretations,
however, given the complicated system of registering Jewish births,
deaths and marriages in Galicia.

I cannot provide more information on these entries now, but you can
read about the project in more detail -- and view examples (annotated)
of the actual census here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/tarnopol-1910-census/

Note that an earlier version of this list had many names missing, so
it's worth taking a second look at the list now.

Pamela Weisberger
President, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
http://www.geshergalicia.org
http://www.geshergalicia.org/projects/tarnopol-1910-census
http://www.geshergalicia.org/galitzianer/


Dreaming of Lithuania see soon... #lithuania

Yisroel Shapiro
 

I am entraining the possibility of making a stopover in Lithuania
going or returning >from the USA >from my current home of Israel. My
trip would be maximum 3 days. When I called a travel agent was
informed I would need to go via Moscow to Vilna instead of Kaunas.
Salakas and Natsonishuk are my two dream places. Does anyone have
another suggestion of how to fly that is cheap? I was told this would
cost me around $1000 despite all the stopovers.

I am somewhat timid and unknowledgeable of the efficiency of these
airports. What is the chance items may get lost? How much time between
gates in the airports? What if I miss my flight? How would I travel
from Vilnius to Kovna Gubernia? These are some of the questions I am
pondering before I even think about my actual purpose.

Regarding leaving Vilna and travel in general in Lithuania. Would like
to know about buses, trains, and if anyone knows anyone who can be
given some cash or can be done a favor for them for a ride. I am
extremely low in cash meaning someone might pay for my ticket and I
would need to ask relatives and friends to help me out for my getting
around. If you have a connection with someone who I could pay for a
ride or sleeping in the future would be truly helpful.

I am a firm believer that dreams should not be stopped due to lack of
funds. Two years ago I got to Florida to meet some elderly cousins
while they still with us. Thankfully they are both with us still. I
am considering the winter which I assume would be freezing cold (I
cannot take cold so I hope to coat, a Russian type hat, gloves, warm
socks and, boots will keep me going.) I am hoping my passion will warm
me up and keep me going; hey I am still in my younger 30's.

Regarding sleeping I am looking into Couch surfing. I am being
careful. I want to say that if someone if going out of their way to
host or help on this website it is not only for gentiles but for Jews
also. And travelers like me going to do research. I have a fear that
my stuff will be stolen and telling myself it is only a fear until it
happens. I am hoping I am correct. If someone knew someone I can
stay by I would be very thankful or other very cheap lodging to keep
my out of the cold.

My purpose
I want to be able to see and pray at my ancestors tombstones in
Salakas. I know they exist, since I saw them on the Salakas website.
Thanks all who to thank for that. I would want to get my grandma
birth record which would be around may 15 1907. Who would I contact
for that? After which I would go to Natsonishuk / Neciuniskiai
My Shapiros lived there I am told hoping to find proof and see if
a cemetery. I want to see whatever I can. Maybe my cousins were
murdered. ALL dependent on time.

My trip would be very compact and I need to be clear on whether
possibilities. The more information on either, the places I want to go
to, experience to these places the better
I have the weather, money, and a short trip maybe a day or to max to
challenge my dream.
I am wondering if I would be able to see tombstones if it snows? Is
there someone who knows the cemeteries well enough to find me specific
graves and how much they would want. Could I pay it off or would they
want to be repressed on the spot. I am a little spectral because I
assume very little is in English and few understand English.
As for as sleeping on a warm couch, if someone has a contact would be
great. Otherwise I would have to try couchsurfing.org. If hope the
people are honest and do not steal my stuff.

Yisroel Shapiro

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately if you have any
ideas or information regarding Yisroel's trip.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Dreaming of Lithuania see soon... #lithuania

Yisroel Shapiro
 

I am entraining the possibility of making a stopover in Lithuania
going or returning >from the USA >from my current home of Israel. My
trip would be maximum 3 days. When I called a travel agent was
informed I would need to go via Moscow to Vilna instead of Kaunas.
Salakas and Natsonishuk are my two dream places. Does anyone have
another suggestion of how to fly that is cheap? I was told this would
cost me around $1000 despite all the stopovers.

I am somewhat timid and unknowledgeable of the efficiency of these
airports. What is the chance items may get lost? How much time between
gates in the airports? What if I miss my flight? How would I travel
from Vilnius to Kovna Gubernia? These are some of the questions I am
pondering before I even think about my actual purpose.

Regarding leaving Vilna and travel in general in Lithuania. Would like
to know about buses, trains, and if anyone knows anyone who can be
given some cash or can be done a favor for them for a ride. I am
extremely low in cash meaning someone might pay for my ticket and I
would need to ask relatives and friends to help me out for my getting
around. If you have a connection with someone who I could pay for a
ride or sleeping in the future would be truly helpful.

I am a firm believer that dreams should not be stopped due to lack of
funds. Two years ago I got to Florida to meet some elderly cousins
while they still with us. Thankfully they are both with us still. I
am considering the winter which I assume would be freezing cold (I
cannot take cold so I hope to coat, a Russian type hat, gloves, warm
socks and, boots will keep me going.) I am hoping my passion will warm
me up and keep me going; hey I am still in my younger 30's.

Regarding sleeping I am looking into Couch surfing. I am being
careful. I want to say that if someone if going out of their way to
host or help on this website it is not only for gentiles but for Jews
also. And travelers like me going to do research. I have a fear that
my stuff will be stolen and telling myself it is only a fear until it
happens. I am hoping I am correct. If someone knew someone I can
stay by I would be very thankful or other very cheap lodging to keep
my out of the cold.

My purpose
I want to be able to see and pray at my ancestors tombstones in
Salakas. I know they exist, since I saw them on the Salakas website.
Thanks all who to thank for that. I would want to get my grandma
birth record which would be around may 15 1907. Who would I contact
for that? After which I would go to Natsonishuk / Neciuniskiai
My Shapiros lived there I am told hoping to find proof and see if
a cemetery. I want to see whatever I can. Maybe my cousins were
murdered. ALL dependent on time.

My trip would be very compact and I need to be clear on whether
possibilities. The more information on either, the places I want to go
to, experience to these places the better
I have the weather, money, and a short trip maybe a day or to max to
challenge my dream.
I am wondering if I would be able to see tombstones if it snows? Is
there someone who knows the cemeteries well enough to find me specific
graves and how much they would want. Could I pay it off or would they
want to be repressed on the spot. I am a little spectral because I
assume very little is in English and few understand English.
As for as sleeping on a warm couch, if someone has a contact would be
great. Otherwise I would have to try couchsurfing.org. If hope the
people are honest and do not steal my stuff.

Yisroel Shapiro

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately if you have any
ideas or information regarding Yisroel's trip.


Rokiskis Landsmanschaft #lithuania

Jules Feldman
 

In the Yizkor Book of Rakeshik (Rokiskis) there is a chapter on the
landsmanschaft of Rakeshik in Johannesburg.

Has anything being written, even passing mention will do, of Rakeshik
Landsmanschaften in other cities?

I am writing an MA paper on the migration >from Rokiskis.
Thanks

Jules Feldman
Yizrael,
Israel


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rokiskis Landsmanschaft #lithuania

Jules Feldman
 

In the Yizkor Book of Rakeshik (Rokiskis) there is a chapter on the
landsmanschaft of Rakeshik in Johannesburg.

Has anything being written, even passing mention will do, of Rakeshik
Landsmanschaften in other cities?

I am writing an MA paper on the migration >from Rokiskis.
Thanks

Jules Feldman
Yizrael,
Israel


INTRO-Researching STRAUSS family from Unterriedenberg Bayern #germany

WALTER ELIAS
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 6
months. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research. I live in suburban Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.
My native language is English. I consider myself intermediate in using
the computer. My experience in using the Internet is intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of four of my
grandparents, eight of my great grandparents and one of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: My grandfather Samuel STRAUSS'
siblings. My JGFF Researcher ID number is 544036. The family names and
ancestral towns in Germany that I have entered in the JGFF (JewishGen
Family Finder) are:

1 BIRKENHOLZ Selters; 2 ELIAS Hachenburg; 3 ELIAS Kirburg 4 HERMANN Selters;
5.KAHN Selters; 6. KAHN Unterriedenberg; 7. LOEWENBERG Bendorf;
9.MOSES Oberndorf; 8 LOEWENBERG Hachenburg; 10 ROSENTHAL Westerburg;
11.STRAUSS Rodelheim; 12.STRAUSS Unterriedenberg;
13. SCHOENFELD Roedelheim Germany

MOSES - Oberndorf/Wetzlar - Seeking any information on Pauline MOSES'
siblings and their descendants. Pauline b. 1876 to Moses Moses and
Jette Loew, both residents of Oberndorf; Especially seeking Holocaust
fate of siblings and their spouses and children.

STRAUSS - Gerson MD b. 1866 in Unterriedenberg settled in New Haven,
CT in 1878. What is his relationship to Samuel STRAUSS, my
grandfather, who died in Frankfurt AM in 1929?

Gerson's daughter Florence Levine nee STRAUSS sponsored the
immigration of my mother Erna STRAUSS in 1938 but I do not understand
their relationship.

Hypothesizing that Gerson and Samuel were brothers but can not validate.
Gerson's spouse listed as Anna and Ella in various sources. Would like
to know if these are the same woman.

ELIAS - Hachenburg, Westerwald - Seeking the fate of two sisters
Settchen Loewenberg nee ELIAS, her spouse and children as well as
Amalia ROSENTHAL nee ELIAS, her spouse and children. Possibility they
were deported to Riga in 1942. Some evidence that Settchen and her
husband were sent to Bendorf Sayn. Parents were Samuel ELIAS, b. 1840
in Kirburg and Henriette BLUMENTHAL, b. 1837 in Mengerskirchen.
ELIAS - Hachenburg, Westerwald. Seeking fate of Moritz ELIAS b.1870 to
Samuel and Henriette.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, wselias79@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany INTRO-Researching STRAUSS family from Unterriedenberg Bayern #germany

WALTER ELIAS
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 6
months. I consider myself to be a beginner in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research. I live in suburban Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.
My native language is English. I consider myself intermediate in using
the computer. My experience in using the Internet is intermediate.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of four of my
grandparents, eight of my great grandparents and one of my great great
grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out: My grandfather Samuel STRAUSS'
siblings. My JGFF Researcher ID number is 544036. The family names and
ancestral towns in Germany that I have entered in the JGFF (JewishGen
Family Finder) are:

1 BIRKENHOLZ Selters; 2 ELIAS Hachenburg; 3 ELIAS Kirburg 4 HERMANN Selters;
5.KAHN Selters; 6. KAHN Unterriedenberg; 7. LOEWENBERG Bendorf;
9.MOSES Oberndorf; 8 LOEWENBERG Hachenburg; 10 ROSENTHAL Westerburg;
11.STRAUSS Rodelheim; 12.STRAUSS Unterriedenberg;
13. SCHOENFELD Roedelheim Germany

MOSES - Oberndorf/Wetzlar - Seeking any information on Pauline MOSES'
siblings and their descendants. Pauline b. 1876 to Moses Moses and
Jette Loew, both residents of Oberndorf; Especially seeking Holocaust
fate of siblings and their spouses and children.

STRAUSS - Gerson MD b. 1866 in Unterriedenberg settled in New Haven,
CT in 1878. What is his relationship to Samuel STRAUSS, my
grandfather, who died in Frankfurt AM in 1929?

Gerson's daughter Florence Levine nee STRAUSS sponsored the
immigration of my mother Erna STRAUSS in 1938 but I do not understand
their relationship.

Hypothesizing that Gerson and Samuel were brothers but can not validate.
Gerson's spouse listed as Anna and Ella in various sources. Would like
to know if these are the same woman.

ELIAS - Hachenburg, Westerwald - Seeking the fate of two sisters
Settchen Loewenberg nee ELIAS, her spouse and children as well as
Amalia ROSENTHAL nee ELIAS, her spouse and children. Possibility they
were deported to Riga in 1942. Some evidence that Settchen and her
husband were sent to Bendorf Sayn. Parents were Samuel ELIAS, b. 1840
in Kirburg and Henriette BLUMENTHAL, b. 1837 in Mengerskirchen.
ELIAS - Hachenburg, Westerwald. Seeking fate of Moritz ELIAS b.1870 to
Samuel and Henriette.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, wselias79@gmail.com

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