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Re: Brothers WEINER marry sisters HYMAN in Philly; Seeking Details. #romania

Sherri Bobish
 


Leonard,

There is a Harry WEINER (wife Tillie, daughter Rose) who naturalized in Philly.  The papers give both Harry and Tillie's towns of birth, and other info.

Here is a link to the nat papers on FamilySearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PTZ-Q8DL?i=186&cc=1913395&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQGB1-PMWN

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Looking for info about Russian emigres who returned to fight for the Bolsheviks in 1917 #records #russia #canada #usa

erikagottfried53@...
 

You might reach out to Daniel Soyer, an historian who’s written extensively on American Jewish history and Jewish immigration and also did a study on American Jews who visited the Soviet Union in the 20s and 30s ("Back to the Future: American Jews Visit the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s."Jewish Social Studies. Volume 6, Number 3, Spring/Summer 2000, pp. 124-159) to see if he has any suggestions.  He teaches at Fordham University.  Also, there is a discussion list for historians of American Communism
(H-HOAC); perhaps you could place a query there.

Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey


Re: Ancestry's Drastic Changes Dash Hopes of Finding Connections #dna

Peter Straus
 

The GEDmatch website solicits participants from the various DNA search firms.  I have found them quite  useful, both for the tools they offer and as an alternative to subscribing to every DNA search firm.  (My native DNA site is ftDNA.)  I don’t know if GEDmatch offers any solution to the experiences on Ancestry that initiated this thread, but they may if the unprocessed source data can still be accessed.

--peter straus 

   San Francs


Re: Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

Diane Jacobs
 

When I wanted to find family in Israel,
I asked on the jewishgen 
Discussion group for help finding a person.
With only her name, the I found her and called to tell who was looking for her.
The rest us history and I was able to visit 
the family in Israel and it was a wonderful
Experience. We are still in touch.

Diane Jacobs

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Robin Klainbard <rlbvilla@...>
Date: 9/5/20 2:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

I am somewhat baffled on how to proceed with my search for my Israeli relatives. Many years ago I met my cousin Zev Altbaum(Altboim) when he was here in the US (after being injured in '67 war)for some treatment. After my paternal Grandmother died I didn't know how to reach out as she was the contact person. I have through research and recently found photos figured out that his Mother(Rachel Gal Altbaum) was my Great Grandmothers sisters daughter. I have some pictures of Rachel and I believe her Mother. I know there is a family tree on My Heritage for the Gal family in Israel that I think has her info but I can't access it unless I join. I already have annual membership in another genealogical site and really don't wish to pay for another. I see that the owner of the tree is Avi Gal. But I am stuck. Is there any way to get information about Avi Gal so I could email him. I believe the family lived in Petach Tikva. Any suggestions are very appreciated.

Robin Klainbard
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


LOOK-UP? Passaic, NY, USA, GURTMAN, Henry, 1899-1973/Dora, 1899-1958 [POLAND] #usa #poland

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Looking for possible 1958/1973 obits. Couple had lived in Passaic, New Jersey but are buried in Clifton.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/170382440/dora-gurtman
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/170382449/henry-gurtman

I am trying to confirm if "Henry" GURTMAN, 13 Dec 1899-9 Dec 1973, buried King Solomon Memorial Park, Clifton, Passaic Co., New Jersey along with his wife, Dora, 15 Sep 1899-16 Jan 1958 is a member of the Szymko Szymon GURTMAN, b. 1861 and Sura Zelda BOGOMLNA(?), b. 1866 family that connects to KOPLIWICZ/LENCZNER relatives. Henry would be Chil Idel GURTMAN, b. 13 Dec 1899, Szczekociny, Poland and "Dora" his wife, Drejzla RUBINSKI, b. 15 Feb 1898, Jedrzejow. Chil is listed with his parents, siblings and wife in the "Books of Residents" for Szczekociny along with a son, Menachem GURTMAN, b. 25 Mar 1924. According to the Arolsen Archives, Chil, wife, Dora and son, "Michael" and his wife Amalia survived the war and went to the US (### Sherman St., Passaic St. New Jersey). "Max" GURTMAN has 1930/1940 Census listings at this address. Believe "Max" is probably Henry's brother Mendel, b. 1887, Kiev.

A circ. 1916 Lodz Registration Card for brother, Nojech. 1889, is marked "3 Jan 1921 Ameryki". There are 1921 New York passenger listings for Noach and his wife, Chawa Rywka ERLICHMAN going to her sister, Bessie CAPLON, #### Broadway, Schenectady, New York. It is possible that their parents, Szymon & Sura Zelda were also in the US (buried in Saddle Brook, Bergen Co., New Jersey?).

Chil's sister Rae Ruchla, b. 1892, married "Harry" (Abram Hersz) KOPLOWITZ and immigrated to St. Louis, MO. Harry's mother, Brucha (LENCZNER) KOPLOWICZ was sister to my great grandmother.

Thanks, Michael McTeer, Crowley, TX, USA

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SEEKING:KALKOPF, FRYMORGEN, RESZKE, GRYNBAUM (Zarki, Bedzin, Sosnowiec, Poland); LENCZNER, GLIKSMAN, KOPLOWICZ, TRAJMAN (Szczekociny, Poland)


Origin of surname: GALATIN #ukraine #names

galatin@...
 

My father CHARLES GALATIN was born in  in BERESTECHKO in 1907 in what is now Ukraine. I think the family then moved to ROVNO from where they possibly travelled via Odessa to the U.K. in 1911. 
Has anyone any information on our surname? Could it be related to the town of GALATI in Roumania?

Jeff Galatin


Home for Children, Antwerp c. 1947 #general

lesliefloyd44@...
 

I have two cousins, since deceased, who traveled to Philadelphia, PA (US) in 1947 to live with my grandparents. They were 13 1/2 and 9 1/2 years old when they arrived in the US.

I have a record that indicates that the younger son moved from Frankfurt to Brussels with his parents in 1939-1942. I don't have evidence that the older brother moved with them, but I also have no reason to doubt it. The boys' parents and older sister were deported from Brussels to Auschwitz in 1942 where they perished.

I have no idea where the two boys spent the war and how they survived. Their ship's register says that their nearest relative or friend in their most recent location was the Home for Children, 22, Lange van Ruysbroekstr., Antwerp.

Can anyone tell me anything about the Home for Children? Is it possible that they were there during the war, safe from deportation? Did the Home open after the war?

I have searched online Arolsen records, Ancestry, FamilySearch, Yad Vashem and Kazerne Dossin.

I welcome any and all information and suggestions.

Leslie Floyd


Re: Photo for language identification #photographs #translation

paveanyu@...
 

Dear All                                                                               5th September 2020

PISZTRANG is indeed a Hungarian word--name of a fish

As for the letter ' Z'   -- not crossed,-- to my knowledge it was 'crossed' in the 'old' Hungarian witting but not during my school years in Hungary/Budapest after the war.

Best wishes to All.

Veronika Pachtinger
London UK.


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The USCIS rates do not increase until October 2nd. Marjorie said the rates increased.That is incorrect as they do not for another several weeks. So if you are planning to order records this is the time to do so.  This was announced last November when they proposed the rate increase and again July 31 when the final rule was published and again last month as a reminder of the October 2 date for increased fees.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records  Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Gedcom versions? #general

peggyfreedman@...
 

Once again, Wikipedia to the rescue!  Found this in the Wikipedia articleon the topic "GEDCOM"


I think you should check on the Ancestry website to see if they say which version of GEDCOM they accept.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Atlanta, GA USA


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

JoAnne Goldberg
 

I'm curious: has anyone successfully gotten records for ancestors who
immigrated in the 1880s (pre-Ellis)? According to what I see online, the
first US Office of Immigration was founded after that. I'm wondering how
much effort I should invest in trying to obtain records if there would
have been no records!
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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


Re: Where did "Katya" come from? #ukraine #yiddish #russia #names

David Mason
 

In Russian, Катя (“Katya”) is the most common diminutive of Екатерина (“Catherine”). 

 

Being subject to pogroms as well as official discrimination, Jews apparently assumed conventional Russian names as disguise.  For example the family I’m trying to reconnect were branded “class enemies” in the time of Stalin, so they moved from Kiev region in Ukraine to Omsk, Siberia and changed the surname from Kagan (Cohen).  I heard this chapter of family history from “Aleksandr Mikhailovich Suvorov” which is about as Russian a name as one could possibly invent!

 

Emigrants to America apparently have felt freer to be more openly Jewish.

 

David Mason

 


Re: What port when leaving Europe #hungary

susiekrumholz@...
 

My family all came, many separately different years, through Rotterdam.

Susie Krumholz


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

Marjorie Geiser
 

I couldn't find my grandfather's sister's naturalization papers at all, which were from 1945. As a result, I requested an index search, then ordered both records the USCIS found. I did this last year. Because they had just announced calls for comments prior to their rate increase, it took about 3 months, and when they were complete, I did get a CD with the records. Two bits of information I did get as a result was a picture of her and exactly where she was born, which I couldn't find anywhere else.

Would I do it now? No. Back then, the total cost was $195, which I thought was excessive. Now that the rates have increased, I would go without.

Margie Geiser
Arizona USA

LEVINE/LEWIN, SILBERNAGEL/ZYLBERNAGEL/SILVER, EPSTEJN/EPSTEIN, MOCZYDLOWER/MOCHEDLOVER, ERLICH, GRUNPELTZ, JOSKOWICZ, ZYLBERSZTEJN, SZTABINSKA, WILK


Looking for Israeli relatives #israel

Robin Klainbard
 

I am somewhat baffled on how to proceed with my search for my Israeli relatives. Many years ago I met my cousin Zev Altbaum(Altboim) when he was here in the US (after being injured in '67 war)for some treatment. After my paternal Grandmother died I didn't know how to reach out as she was the contact person. I have through research and recently found photos figured out that his Mother(Rachel Gal Altbaum) was my Great Grandmothers sisters daughter. I have some pictures of Rachel and I believe her Mother. I know there is a family tree on My Heritage for the Gal family in Israel that I think has her info but I can't access it unless I join. I already have annual membership in another genealogical site and really don't wish to pay for another. I see that the owner of the tree is Avi Gal. But I am stuck. Is there any way to get information about Avi Gal so I could email him. I believe the family lived in Petach Tikva. Any suggestions are very appreciated.

Robin Klainbard


Re: Fannie Leibovitz, Goldstein,Kaufer, Stengel, Maiman #subcarpathia

Friedman116@...
 

Try contacting Baruch Huber from Ungvar, not far from Kiralyhaza.
You can also find him on the JewishGen researchers list. 
His email huberbelay@...

All the best 

Mark Friedman


Re: Researching my great-grandparents Goldenzweig #romania

Sherri Bobish
 


Stefan,

Have you seen this?  It is on Ancestry.  There is no link to view on-line any info beyond this.

Sergiu Godeanu
in the Romania, Jewish Names from the Central Zionist Archives

Name: Sergiu Godeanu
Internment: Targu Jiu / Romania
Source: O.11/55
List Code: YO-04
Source Information

Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany. Romania, Jewish Names from the Central Zionist Archives [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.

Original data: All the material came from two major sources: JM documents were part of the Romanian Ministry of Defense collection, while the M39 documents came from the Odessa Oblast Archives. Both of these collections are also available at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM). This data is provided in partnership with JewishGen.org.


Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Re: My uncle Mendel Wolf BLAU & Mordka BLAU from Kolbuszowa #galicia

Sherri Bobish
 


Peretz,

There is a database that may help you in your search.  It is called something like "coming here"  and it has a lot of documents about people who immigrated to England, including the time frame you seek.

I was able to find the database again a few weeks ago by using The Way Back Search Machine (the database is no longer maintained.)  However, I cannot find it now.

Can someone find it for Peretz?  I know lots of other 'Genners have used it.

Thank you,

Sherri Bobish


Re: Where did "Katya" come from? #ukraine #yiddish #russia #names

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"I knew my mother's maternal grandmother's American name was Gussie Squire. The name on some of her immigration documents is Gitel Scvirsci.

However, while the envelopes they came in are addressed to Gussie, the letters themselves address her as "Katya". "

My ggrandmother was one of 20 children born to a couple in a tiny town. On the 20 records, the mother's name was different on each one. She was Rachel, Regina, Reis, every R name imaginable - except Rivka - and Teresa. Gussie, in English was Gitel in Yiddish, Katya in Russian, perhaps. 

Women didn't have a legal name in Europe, and not in the US until Social Security made one name 'right'. Women had no rights unless their husbands died,and they were 'rich'; women were the property of their fathers until, literally, given to their husbands.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Are the C-Files from the USCIS worth getting? #general

Michael McTeer <mcteer@...>
 

Another possible source is the National Archives. It took repeated requests and about ten years, but I received about two inches of material regarding my great grandmother’s immigration including interviews and statement regarding her 1932 return to the US from Poland when she was detailed and ordered deported. Every piece of paper I received, I would check for other file/reference number and use that to make another request to the Archives. The Archives also had a 1939 letter from my half grand aunt living in St. Louis to the State Department regarding her father in Poland.
Regards, Michael McTeer, Crowley, TX USA 13488
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SEEKING:KALKOPF, FRYMORGEN, RESZKE, GRYNBAUM (Zarki, Bedzin, Sosnowiec, Poland); LENCZNER, GLIKSMAN, KOPLOWICZ, TRAJMAN (Szczekociny, Poland)

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