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Re: Why would my Grandfather travel under his older brother's name? #names

adrien@...
 

Hi,
Found that a brother of my great grandmother did that to travel to US, borrowing his older brother identity.
Reason was, the traveler was too young and switching identities allowed him to live is life freely.
The older brother stayed in France and lived under his younger brother identity until he passed away many years after.


Re: Research individuals in France #france

Michael Turnbull
 

Dear Art,
That's very generous of you. I am searching for French records on Adolf (Adolphe in France) TARNOWER born in Warsaw in 1894 who gained a Diploma in Mechanical Engineering from l#Ecole Superieur d'Electricite Applique a Nancy and whose wife was Sara (Alice in France) maiden name Rozemberg (in French Rosembee). Adolf (Adolphe) had a French passport for 1912-1913.
If you have no luck you could maybe suggest to me where to investigate further. I guess Adolf spent a year studying in Nancy, France and possibly married Sara (Alice) Rozemberg (Rosembee)? 
Thanks very much again,
Michael


Members of A Feld Family #general

Ilan Leibowitz
 

Shalom,

On Ancrestry it mentions Members of A Feld Family. Whom I am unaware of. No details A Birth of a 'MOLLIE FELD" in 1902 in the United States? Death of a Samuel Feld in the states in 1983? Just wondering who they might be?

 

Thank you,

Ilan Leibowitz

 

Israel


Re: Why would my Grandfather travel under his older brother's name? #names

jbonline1111@...
 

One possibility is his age at the time of transit.  My grandfather came to America with an uncle, but was separated from him at Ellis Island and lied about his age in order to be allowed to enter the country.  
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Finding records in Alexandria, Egypt? #general

donna@...
 

Does anyone know how I might find records of relatives living in Alexandria, Egypt in the early 1900's? I have found two passenger records of my great grandfather (Wolf Braverman/Brawermann) saying his last residence was in Alexandria in 1898, and a record of his mother (Anetta Grossman Brawerman) traveling from Philadelphia back to Alexandria in 1903. They also lived in Roumania at some point. I was unable to find anything on JewishGen or Genealogy Indexer.


Re: Research individuals in France #france

Steve Daggers
 

Art thank you for your generosity. If you could find any info about my g-grandfather that would be much appreciated. Israel Harris was born in 1879 in London, England. He went to France in the 1920s-1930s (estimated). Thank you sir!


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

C Chaykin
 

Yes, it's possible that officials at Ellis Island may have made mistakes. But those mistakes did not result in name changes. 


Re: Kornitzer family in Brooklyn #usa

David Lewin
 

At 05:45 12/07/2020, Neil Rosenstein wrote:
Trying to make contact with the family of Feige Rachel (Faye),
daughter of Rabbi Avarham David Rubin who was the Lacunt Rebbe. Faye
married Moshe Yehoshua Kornitzer. Children are Binyamin Zeev and
Shalom Akiva.
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I am working on the date of the late Florence MARMOR who collected data on the Mokkom Sholom. Acaia and Bayside cemeteries

She has

Location                                Surname      Given Name Place of Birth Date of Birth Place of Death Date of Death (English) Age Date buried


78   Brith Abraham Society   KORNITZER Harris                                                                                                          7m     08 Aug 1886           


Re: Why would my Grandfather travel under his older brother's name? #names

Lisa Bertman Hoffman
 

My great uncle came to the US using his dead brother-in-law's name.  The BIL had already emigrated to the US and been living there when he died in an accident.  He was  escaping the Czar's army according to family lore.


Re: Hebrew record, is Fani Taub here? #hungary

Hinda Solomon
 

The beginning of the registration book is a list of circumcisions which is why it is all males.   Later on it changes to birth records.

Hinda Solomon
Rishon LeZion, Israel 


Re: How to determine Warsaw street address? #warsaw

Kris Murawski
 

Grzybów was a „jurydyka” (a privately owned autonomous enclave within a larger municipality), established by Jan Grzybowski in 1650. The legal entity of a „jurydyka” was abolished by the Polish constitution of 1791. Grzybów was assigned city street names, lot 1101 becoming Plac Grzybowski (Grzybowski Square) No. 16.

 

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Re: Research individuals in France #france

royer-mars@...
 

Bonjour à Tous
Je suis désolé d'utiliser ce fil de discussion mais ma question est en direction de Bernard Flam et concerne le lien évoqué dans sa réponse concernant les listes scolaires.
Ma tante Hilde MARX, née à Duisbourg le 13 septembre 1924 a été raflée avec ses parents à Bry-Sur-Marne en juillet 1942.
Dirigée vers Drancy, Elle est déclarée morte avec ses parents le 29 juillet 1942 à Auschwitz comme la totalité des 1000 déportés de son convoi.
Elle fait donc partie de la longue liste des enfants juifs morts en déportation.
Je sais que ma famille était réfugiée à Forbach de 1933 à 1935 puis à Bry-sur-Marne de 1935 à 1942 et que durant cette période ma tante a obligatoirement été scolarisée.
Aussi je suis à la recherche de conseils pouvant me permettre d'en découvrir un peu plus sur elle.
En vous remerciant par avance
Yann

Good morning all
I am sorry to use this topic, but my question is for Bernard Flam and concerns the link mentioned in his answer concerning school lists.
My aunt Hilde MARX, born in Duisburg on September 13, 1924 was arrested with her parents in Bry-Sur-Marne in July 1942.
Directed towards Drancy, She was declared dead with her parents on July 29, 1942 in Auschwitz as the total of the 1000 deportees of her convoy.
She is on the long list of Jewish children who died in deportation.
I know that my family was a refugee in Forbach from 1933 to 1935 and then in Bry-sur-Marne from 1935 to 1942 and that during this period my aunt had to attend school.
I am looking for advice that can allow me to discover a little more about it.
Thanks you in advance
Yann


Re: Need help with "Records of Aliens Pre-Examined in CANADA" 1918 #canada

Paul Chirlin
 

The index card is a duplicate of the information on the manifest
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1075/m1464_368-0714?pid=5987201&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1075%26h%3D5987201%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DFPl2871%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=FPl2871&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.122149195.1370438784.1594562809-1207326651.1583011107
see all 3 pages of the manifest.
It seems Fanny was in the US from 1912 to Dec 1918, then went to Montreal for a few months, perhaps visiting someone, then on 10 May 1919 she was "examined" for returning permanently to the US. Some of the earlier pages have names of ships, but her page does not.  I don't know what a class C vs a class B alien might be. 

Familysearch has a much sharper copy of the alien manifest
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQS-DYB9
as well as an additional index card
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK31-KC4V

You can search Montreal city directories on Stevemorse.  The 1918 and 1919 city directory at 198 Fifth only lists Jesse Ash


Re: How to determine Warsaw street address? #warsaw

Michael Turnbull
 

Where can I find Online a Warsaw Street Index for 1915, 1914, 1913, 1912?
The particular Person and Street I am looking for is:

Orla str., 5/7 Tarnower, Adolf.

Many thanks.


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Bob Bloomberg
 

I agree.  Names were changed at point of departure.  I do not agree that the officials at Ellis Island NEVER NEVER NEVER made a mistake


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Bob Bloomberg
 

I think you missed several posts.  Long ago the idea that names were changed on purpose was put to rest.  No one's name were changed against their will


Re: US Passports #usa

A. E. Jordan
 




-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Reische

Would US citizens be required to hold passports for 1927 travel ex US,
and if so, what information would have been required?


Yes by the late 1920s US citizens were getting passports for travel to Europe not so much for the Caribbean or near in places.  My grandparents did the grand tour in the mid 1920s and I got their passports although it was painful to do.

The applications through the early 1920s are online and you can search them out and review them that way.  After that cutoff they are still at the passport bureau.  When I did it I was told you could do a FOIA via either the State Department or the Passport Bureau.  I did the State Department because the woman at State was very nice and helpful.  She actually intervened with Passport Bureau when I was having problems getting the records,

First thing I would suggest if you are going to file for a copy is search the passenger lists on line and see if you can find the people either inbound or outbound.  Sometimes not always they wrote passport numbers in when they returned and if you get that lucky it is a major head start.  It shows up with pp note most times.  But even if you do not find the passport it gives you dates for the travel.

When I did my requests they wanted the dates, the names, the address they were living at and both proof the person was deceased and proof of relationship which I did with a photocopy of the death certificate.  I did not send originals.

In the case of my great grandfather they passport folks sent me the dreaded not found letter the first time I filed even though I knew the basic details of his travel and the address where he lived.  I later found his passenger lists with the passport numbers and I printed and highlighted his name and passport number and that time they found them.  It took months to get them (he had two passports for two different trips) and as I said State had to give them a little push.  A year after I got the first copies I got a second copy in the mail from the Passport Bureau of the exact same information.

I wanted it because in addition to a photo it asks where he was born but at least in my case he got away with saying just Russia without details.  Even still I got his description, his address, when he planned to go and where he was going and why , which was he was visiting his son studying in Europe.  So I did not get what I hoped for but they were still interesting to see.

Allan Jordan


Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names

Bob Bloomberg
 

Obviously the name was written at the point of departure.  I believe I said that in one of my posts.  That doesn't mean that names weren't written illegibly, spelled incorrectly, heard incorrectly.
 


Re: Hebrew Translation of Headstone please #translation

Dubin, David M. MD
 

Here lies Mr Feivel son of Mr Leib
died 2 Shvat 5630

here lies Ms Chava daughter of Mr David
died 16 Second Adar (it was a leap year with a second month of Adar) 5630
bottom abbreviation stands for may his (or her) souls be bound in the bonds of everlasting life 


Re: Need help with "Records of Aliens Pre-Examined in CANADA" 1918 #canada

Shelley Mitchell
 

Yes. Tremont Avenue is in The Bronx. And there has been a train for a while between Canada and US. One of your links is broken so I might be missing something.

However, is it possible that your relative was staying in Canada during the Spanish Flu?

Why Canada? Not enough details like a Canadian Census or newspaper articles, for example.
--
Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.

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