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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Ettie Zilber
 

Yes, that’s exactly right. As I understood it,  the trick was to find a family to adopt you who did not have any sons. Thus, I don’t think they could just choose a family name. Thanks for responding

Dr. Ettie Zilber
zedEd Consultancy
Educator-Author-Speaker
 
 


Re: Viewmate Translation Request - Russian #translation

ryabinkym@...
 

Viewmate # 4

 

In russian:

 

Состоялось в городе Люблин, 30-го мая (11-го июня) 1897-го года в 10 часов утра, явился еврей Мордка Вайсблех, работник, 34-х лет житель города Люблина, в присутствии свидетелей Шлемы Монка, писаря, 57-и лет и Берки Мухшана, домовладельца, 34-х лет, жителей города Люблина, и предъявили нам младенца женского пола, объявляя, что она родилась в городе Люблин в доме #638, 22-го мая (3-го июня) сего года в 11 часов ночи, в городе Люблин от законной жены Хаи, урожденной Фрим, 26-и лет и младенцу этому дано имя Роза-Шаша.  Акт этот присутствующим прочитан, и нами подписан.

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Translate into English:

 

Held in the city of Lublin, on May 30 (June 11), 1897, at 10 a.m., a Jew Mordka Weissblech, a worker, 34 years old resident of the city of Lublin, appeared in the presence of witnesses Helmets Monk, clerk, 57 years and Berka Mukhshan, a homeowner, 34 years old, residents of the city of Lublin, and presented us with a female baby, announcing that she was born in the city of Lublin in the house # 638, May 22 (June 3) this year at 11 hours of the night, in the city of Lublin, from the legal wife of Hai, nee Freem, 26 years old and this baby was given the name Rosa Shasha. This certificate has been read to those present, and we have signed it.

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Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

carol lipson
 

Yes, this happened in my family.  The original name was Lipshitz, and the new name was Litvinov.  Ironically I married a Lipshitz (from another area in Belarus).  I didn’t know until well after we were married.  People always said we looked alike!  


carol lipson


Sheftel family from Kratinga, Kovno, Russia #russia

perimeters
 

I would like help researching my Sheftel/Sheftelovitz family line. I have successfully traced it back to Mordechai Joshua Sheftelowitz (1812-1886) married to Fanny. One of his sons is Michael Sheftelowitz, who became a naturalized British Citizen 4 April 1897,
Thanks


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

Sarah L Meyer
 

Many years ago I tried to use DNAGedCom and it blew up because I had so many Jewish matches (all 4 of my grandparents were Jewish).  So try it but be aware that if there are a lot of matches it may crash your system.   Unfortunately we Jews have fewer records, and shorter surname history - and more matches than the non-Jews.
At that time, I sent a message to the administrators requesting that they let me know when their site would work for Ashkenazi Jews.  I have never heard back from them.

--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


"Osterbücher" in 1832 Hessen-Nassau #germany

Michael Rubin
 

I have the estate inventory of an ancestor who died in 1832 in a small village in Hessen-Nassau. The inventory lists several obviously Jewish books (eg. "ein Judisches Gesetzbuch").  It also lists "2 Osterbücher."  I know that this term today means springtime children's books and/or secular books somewhat related to Easter themes such as bunnies and generally neutral in terms of religious content.  My question is what this term might have meant in 1832. I have a hard time believing it refers to today's version especially since this person was elderly and children were out of the house.  And, there were only two such books.  There were only one or two of any of the books in the house.
Could Osterbücher have meant haggadah for Passover?  Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Michael Rubin
Boston, MA USA


Event: The Poetry and Fate of Matilda Olkinaite: A Diary of Jewish Culture in Lithuania #announcements #lithuania #holocaust #events

peggyfreedman@...
 

Thank you to Phil Shapiro for letting me know about an online discussion of the fate and writings of Matilda Olkinaite, a young Litvak poet whose life was cut short by the Holocaust.

The event is organized under the auspices of the commemorative year of Vilna Gaon and Lithuanian Jewish Heritage by the Embassy of Lithuania in Washington, DC.  The online conference will take place on Friday, July 10, 2020 at noon, 12:00 PM EDT

For more information:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/poetry-and-fate-of-matilda-olkinaite-diary-of-jewish-culture-in-lithuania-tickets-111689028892

Peggy Mosinger Freedman


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

Phil Karlin
 

I found relatives who got pregnant before they were married in 1934. They put the baby up for adoption then married 3 months later. I can't imagine anyone doing that today.

--
Phil Karlin
Hartford, CT


Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Iryna
 

It was a frequent practice. It was this in my family. It was a childless relative. I don’t know anything more about him. It is necessary to look for documents about adoption.


Re: Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location #general

Kenneth Ryesky
 

I do not know any of the particulars regarding your interactions with Pilgrim Psychiatric Center (formerly Pilgrim State Hospital), but note the following
 
New York's Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) is structurally and operationally similar to the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), except that FOIL gives New York state agencies broader reasons to deny access than does FOIL for federal agencies.
 
Your written request for the information should specifically state that the information is requested in accordance with FOIL.  If your request is denied, then the bureaucrat who denied your request is required under FOIL to inform you of (A) the reasons for the denial, and (B) the identity of the bureaucrat to whom the denial can be appealed.
 
If the denial is upheld on this appeal, you then have the right to further appeal the denial to the Appellate Division of the New York Supreme Court (if this appeal is successful you may be entitled to attorney fees and costs).
 
[N.B.  Don't let the name of the tribunal intimidate you.  In New York, the "Supreme Court" is the LOWEST court of general jurisdiction; the intermediate appellate tribunal is the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court, and the highest state court in New York is the Court of Appeals of the State of New York.]
 
{Usual caveats that this does not constitute legal advice in the context of the lawyer-client relationship.}
 
-- KHR
 
================
Kenneth H. Ryesky, Esq.
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
 
 

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Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...


Re: Institutionalized relative - death date and burial location #general

Marilyn Feingold
 

HIPPA has changed everything. Many years ago I researched a family member in a facility and got a copy of their diagnosis and lots of other information.  I am certain they wouldn't give me that information today.  Too bad. Marilyn Feingold


Re: Gomborow/Gomborov #ukraine #general

David Cherson
 

This may not help you at all but at the Kehillath Israel (Brookline MA) Hebrew School, several years ago, we had a third grade teacher named Avraham Gomborow and he was also a survivor.  In fact half of the teachers plus the principal were survivors.  I'm talking the 1950's fyi.  

David


Re: Adoptions in the US around the 1930s #general #dna

manderlie@...
 

I have some thoughts for you if you would like to connect privately. I am not sure how to contact you however. 


Re: Yiddish or Hebrew name for IDA #belarus #names

alina.gildiner@...
 

Itka is a diminutive for Ita 


Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,
 
this subject is close to my heart!
 
A story I have told before and am happy to share again ....
 
My ggrandfather Mordechai KASSEMOFF was born in Rezekne in Latvia. On his papers that I had received from the Latvian archives, it said that his father was Moshe Hirsch. However, on his tombstone, in Leeds, it said his father was Zeev.

During my years of research I came across two family ancestors - GREENSTONE/GREENSPAN and MULVIDSON, and I couldnt understand how they were connected to the KASSEMOFFS. Eventually I was in contact with a descendant of one of the MULVIDSON family, who lives in Norway, and he sent me a copy of a photo taken in 1926. He told me that on the reverse side of the photo was written: my brother Mordechai and family in Leeds. Imagine my shock when I received the photo (attached). I had the identical photo in the cupboard of my ggrandfather and ggrandmother and their grown children (including my grandparents).  He told me that the original family name was MULVIDSON. Ggrandfather Mordechai's birth father was Zeev. The clue of his birth father was on his tombstone Emoji. The GREENSTONE/GREENSPAN  (I have found different surname information and spellings, for the same branch) is the 2nd brother. There may have been more but because of the different family surnames, it's not easy to find them.
 
I was told that they had been given different surnames almost at birth, to avoid conscription. The oldest son kept the family surname as he was exempt from army service.
 
Hope this has helped.
 
Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel


"adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania
From: Ettie Zilber
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:12:23 EDT

DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR? a branch of my family had 5 sons around the mid-late 1800s. In order to avoid the military, 4 of the sons were "adopted" by families which had no sons. Thus, this branch had 5 different family names. They lived in Kalvarija and environs. Does anyone have information about this practice? How do the genealogy experts advise doing research for this brick wall?

 
 


Re: looking for family in Australia from Poland name Cohen/K #general #poland

Esther Goldberg
 

All telephone books are on the web
Esther


Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Rose Feldman
 

I have the same for my grandfather in the Ukraine.
 

 

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"adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Carola Murray-Seegert
 

Yes, I have an example of adoption to avoid the Tsar’s army, which I've told in a family story on the Byerazino/Pahost KehilaLink. The details are reported here:

https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Byerazino/family-stories/rose-rabinowitz-family.pdf
The original family name was Feldb’in, but the eldest son, Herschel, used the surname Rabinowitz, as did his descendants. I first thought this stuff about avoiding the draft was just a ‘fairy tale’ but in fact it truly happened. Herschel’s brother-in-law Louis Katz, who was well connected, arranged for his adoption by a man named Rabinowitz who had female children but no sons.
I verified the original family name thanks to a hand-written history, left by a member of the immigrant generation. If I had not traced all possible living descendants of the original family, and had I not been fortunate enough to meet the daughter of the early ‘family historian' I would never have known the family’s true surname, since Herschel continued to use Rabinowitz, even after immigrating to the US.
So regarding your question about how to proceed, based on my experience, I suggest you start by finding all living descendants and asking for family memories.
I can also strongly recommend taking one or more of JewishGen’s guided, online research classes. I received invaluable personal assistance I from Nancy Holden and Phyllis Kramer (Z”L) - without them, I’d have gotten nowhere!
Once I discovered the original surname, revision lists (original Russian census records) available through the Belarus SIG and the Igumen District Research project allowed me to trace the Feldb'ins and their ancestors back to the late 1700s. Unfortunately, I still have one more brick wall to overcome: no matter how hard I’ve looked, I have never been able to identify the Rabinowitz family that saved Herschel from the horrors of the anti-semitic military.


Carola Murray-Seegert, Ph. D.
Oberursel Germany

Coordinator, Igumen District Research Group
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/tools/projects/towns/index.html

Manager, Byerazino/Pahost KehilaLInk
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Byerazino/

Manager, Moskva KehilaLink
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Moskva/

Researching: FELDB’IN, FELDBAUM, KATZ, RABINOWITZ in Pahost and Byerazino: LIFSHITZ, SHEFTEL in Shklov and Moskva; COIN, FELSER, SCOLL in Tauroggen, Baltimore, Chicago and San Antonio.




Re: "adoption" to avoid the czar's army #general #lithuania

Judy Madnick
 

We were told that my husband's surname "Madnick" was not the original family name, that when the Russians recruited boys to their army by force, if you were an only son, you could avoid the military. We've been told that the original name was "Gegozinski," so a direct ancestor of my husband and his brothers (unknown to us) each chose a different family name. Ours chose Madnick." Now I'm wondering whether they were "adopted," as described above or whether the "only son" story is accurate.


ViewMate translation request - Polish (may be Russian) #translation #poland #russia

Alice Klein
 

I'd like to request a translation of the Polish/Russian text of a birth record from Warsaw in ~1913. It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82758

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Alice Klein

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