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Re: unusual name #general

Jules Levin
 

Evertjan. wrote:
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a Britishcsubject in 1920
and the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename?
Wild guess:
Czech hlavni, Slovac hlavny "big":<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hlavn%C3%AD>;
from Czech& Slovac hlava "head":<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hlava#Czech>;
[>from Proto-Slavic *golva]
Perhaps there are other Slavic forms?
Indeed there are. I propose Slavic xvala 'praise', semantically more likely to
appear in names in the Hebrew style. Indeed, a Hebrewist among us might know a
Biblical name of the form "God praises/praise God" etc. While perhaps of Church
Slavic origin, the root occurs in all three Slavic branches--East, West, and South.
Switching chval- to chlav- is an easy linguistic change. PS I would love to
confine the technical discussion to private exchange, if Evertjan would be kind
enough to send me an email address that doesn't require rewriting.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: unusual name #general

Jules Levin
 

Evertjan. wrote:
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a Britishcsubject in 1920
and the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename?
Wild guess:
Czech hlavni, Slovac hlavny "big":<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hlavn%C3%AD>;
from Czech& Slovac hlava "head":<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hlava#Czech>;
[>from Proto-Slavic *golva]
Perhaps there are other Slavic forms?
Indeed there are. I propose Slavic xvala 'praise', semantically more likely to
appear in names in the Hebrew style. Indeed, a Hebrewist among us might know a
Biblical name of the form "God praises/praise God" etc. While perhaps of Church
Slavic origin, the root occurs in all three Slavic branches--East, West, and South.
Switching chval- to chlav- is an easy linguistic change. PS I would love to
confine the technical discussion to private exchange, if Evertjan would be kind
enough to send me an email address that doesn't require rewriting.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Re: Unusual name #general

Martin Miller
 

I have seen the name Chlavna (in Cyrillic characters) in records for my wife's
Seligman family, who came >from Shchedrin, Belarus. I don't recall if that member of
the family came to the US or by what name he might have been known. In Yiddish I'd
expect to hear Chlav-nee or Chlav-neh so Chlavney would be a good representation.

Martin Miller
Syracuse, NY
millerm214@gmail.com

From: Snillop47@aol.com
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and
the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the
correct version?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Unusual name #general

Martin Miller
 

I have seen the name Chlavna (in Cyrillic characters) in records for my wife's
Seligman family, who came >from Shchedrin, Belarus. I don't recall if that member of
the family came to the US or by what name he might have been known. In Yiddish I'd
expect to hear Chlav-nee or Chlav-neh so Chlavney would be a good representation.

Martin Miller
Syracuse, NY
millerm214@gmail.com

From: Snillop47@aol.com
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and
the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the
correct version?


Re: Unusual name #general

RsH <robert.heuman@...>
 

Sounds like it is an attempt to get to Ha Levi or something similar,
transliterating the Hebrew as Ch Lavney, when I look at it and pronounce it, and
the Harry because his English name.

Sort of my using Schlomo (known as Samuel) if the Yiddish on my Jewish birth
certificate is used, which it isn't.

Bob Heuman

Harold Pollins wrote:
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and
the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the
correct version?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unusual name #general

RsH <robert.heuman@...>
 

Sounds like it is an attempt to get to Ha Levi or something similar,
transliterating the Hebrew as Ch Lavney, when I look at it and pronounce it, and
the Harry because his English name.

Sort of my using Schlomo (known as Samuel) if the Yiddish on my Jewish birth
certificate is used, which it isn't.

Bob Heuman

Harold Pollins wrote:
I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and
the entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry)
Goldblatt'. Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the
correct version?


Krakow Project #galicia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Thanks to the leadership and hard work of curator Pam Karp, the Jewish
Families of Krakow project on Geni at
< http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Families-of-Krak%C3%B3w-Poland/12917 >
has now reached its first major milestone. Every one of the over 1,000
families identified in Dan Hirshberg's Krakow database is now connected
to the big tree on Geni and indexed on the project page. Now it is quite
easy for others to come and finish the data entry for each family. The
project has 67 collaborators and 78 followers (anyone is welcome to
join). There are 11,969 profiles added to the project (the highest for any
project on Geni, according to
http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Top-10-Lists/11937
Congratulations Pam and the many others working on this project.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Krakow Project #galicia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Thanks to the leadership and hard work of curator Pam Karp, the Jewish
Families of Krakow project on Geni at
< http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Families-of-Krak%C3%B3w-Poland/12917 >
has now reached its first major milestone. Every one of the over 1,000
families identified in Dan Hirshberg's Krakow database is now connected
to the big tree on Geni and indexed on the project page. Now it is quite
easy for others to come and finish the data entry for each family. The
project has 67 collaborators and 78 followers (anyone is welcome to
join). There are 11,969 profiles added to the project (the highest for any
project on Geni, according to
http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Top-10-Lists/11937
Congratulations Pam and the many others working on this project.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


View Mate: photo and photo studio ID requested #general

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

I just posted this image to ViewMate and am interested in identifying the image and
also if anyone is aware of possible locations for the studio, to help narrow down
my search. It is posted on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27164

Please respond using the ViewMate online form.

Thank you very much!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, Ohio, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen View Mate: photo and photo studio ID requested #general

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

I just posted this image to ViewMate and am interested in identifying the image and
also if anyone is aware of possible locations for the studio, to help narrow down
my search. It is posted on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27164

Please respond using the ViewMate online form.

Thank you very much!

Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, Ohio, USA


Re: Where is/was Dubua, Volunskya circa 1900 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Michael Barros-Smith wrote:
I am trying to locate Dubua, Volunskya. Any help or directions in searching
records of births and marriages for this town. My grandfather was born there
in 1900. At the time, it was part of the Russian Empire, not too far >from Warsaw.
The surname might have beenbDzwoniecki, Zvnyetsky or something entirely
different. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Please email me at:
mmbsmith@gmail.com
Dubno, Ukraine Province: Volhynia Alternate names: Dubno [Rus, Pol], Dubna [Yid]
Region: Volhynia Jewish Population in 1900: 7,108

<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1038255>;

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is/was Dubua, Volunskya circa 1900 #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Michael Barros-Smith wrote:
I am trying to locate Dubua, Volunskya. Any help or directions in searching
records of births and marriages for this town. My grandfather was born there
in 1900. At the time, it was part of the Russian Empire, not too far >from Warsaw.
The surname might have beenbDzwoniecki, Zvnyetsky or something entirely
different. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Please email me at:
mmbsmith@gmail.com
Dubno, Ukraine Province: Volhynia Alternate names: Dubno [Rus, Pol], Dubna [Yid]
Region: Volhynia Jewish Population in 1900: 7,108

<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1038255>;

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>;


ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #general

Gary Lelonek <goodbachur@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I posted some letters to ViewMate that I have posted in the past but have been
unable to get translated. These are letters >from my great grandfather, Yitzchak
Meyer Lelonek, that he wrote while living in the Lampertheim DP Camp between
1946-1949 to his town's relief committee, the Sierpc Relief Committee in NY. A
direct translation would be really appreciated. They are on ViewMate at the
following addresses

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26451
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26450
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26449
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26447

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much for your help,
Gary Lelonek


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #general

Gary Lelonek <goodbachur@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I posted some letters to ViewMate that I have posted in the past but have been
unable to get translated. These are letters >from my great grandfather, Yitzchak
Meyer Lelonek, that he wrote while living in the Lampertheim DP Camp between
1946-1949 to his town's relief committee, the Sierpc Relief Committee in NY. A
direct translation would be really appreciated. They are on ViewMate at the
following addresses

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26451
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26450
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26449
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM26447

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much for your help,
Gary Lelonek


Re: New York marriage #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

A misspelling in transcription plus carelessness were the causes of the difficulty
I had with finding a marriage license for my Hirschfield grandparents in NYC. My
grandfather's name Hirszfeld was transcribed for indexing as "Dirszfeld." Using
a "wild card" may be therefore be helpful in an internet search. The "sz" usage
was part of the Polish spelling.

Also, the certificate had his first name as "Sam" instead of the correct name
"Jacob." Jacob may have been embarrassed since the name Jacob he used in America
was his father's name (still alive in Europe).

I verified this was really my grandparent's certificate and not a real "Sam
Dirszfeld" through observing that the bride's name on the certificate was my
grandmother's.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSZFELD, HIRSCHFELD, LINDENBAUM,BUXBAUM BUCHSBAUM-Skwarzawa, Glinyany,
Sielec Bienkow, Jaryczow Nowy-GALICIA
MINOWICKI, MINOWITZKI, MINOFF-Brest-Litovsk, Wysoko-Litovsk-BELARUS


Aejordan@aol.com writes:
s.cooper@awoc.ca writes:
Could the marriage be registered elsewhere? I have searched every NYC borough.

I wrote about having the same problem of a missing marriage too although mine has
to be in the 1880s in New York. I tried everything up to the date of the birth of
the first child and backwards through all the spelling variants and numerous
wildcards. Still no results. What I have come to believe is one of a few possible
solutions 1) the spelling or handwriting is so bad on the forms that they simply
lost forever in the files


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New York marriage #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

A misspelling in transcription plus carelessness were the causes of the difficulty
I had with finding a marriage license for my Hirschfield grandparents in NYC. My
grandfather's name Hirszfeld was transcribed for indexing as "Dirszfeld." Using
a "wild card" may be therefore be helpful in an internet search. The "sz" usage
was part of the Polish spelling.

Also, the certificate had his first name as "Sam" instead of the correct name
"Jacob." Jacob may have been embarrassed since the name Jacob he used in America
was his father's name (still alive in Europe).

I verified this was really my grandparent's certificate and not a real "Sam
Dirszfeld" through observing that the bride's name on the certificate was my
grandmother's.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSZFELD, HIRSCHFELD, LINDENBAUM,BUXBAUM BUCHSBAUM-Skwarzawa, Glinyany,
Sielec Bienkow, Jaryczow Nowy-GALICIA
MINOWICKI, MINOWITZKI, MINOFF-Brest-Litovsk, Wysoko-Litovsk-BELARUS


Aejordan@aol.com writes:
s.cooper@awoc.ca writes:
Could the marriage be registered elsewhere? I have searched every NYC borough.

I wrote about having the same problem of a missing marriage too although mine has
to be in the 1880s in New York. I tried everything up to the date of the birth of
the first child and backwards through all the spelling variants and numerous
wildcards. Still no results. What I have come to believe is one of a few possible
solutions 1) the spelling or handwriting is so bad on the forms that they simply
lost forever in the files


Questions about a JOWBR entry for a cousin - Michael ORLOW #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Michael ORLOW, my mom's first cousin's father had this entry in the
JOWBR . I don't understand. I don't understand why he would be in a
cemetery, since he was murdered by the Nazis. ?? I didn't know that any
of those lost were buried- and that there would be burial notes and all.
All of his family who lived were out of Germany by that time. I believe
he and his wife were divorced. My grandfather gave him money to try to
get to Vienna either before he left or he sent it to him >from America.
My mom was a kid so she doesn't know the details. the only other
members of our family who were lost in the Shoah who have headstones are
memorials made at the site where there children were buried decades
later. Can someone explain? Thank you so much.

Lin Herz, Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com

JOWBR - Jewishgen Online World Burial Registry - entry:

Name: Michael Orlow
Birth Date: abt 1883
Death Date: 2 Jan 1940
Death Place: Buchenwald
Age at Death: 57
Burial Date: 9 Feb 1940
Burial Plot: Section: T4 Group: 020 A Row: 28 Grave: 23
Burial Place: Vienna, Austria
Comments: Address: 1090, Servitengasse 4, Comments: Urne
Other Comments: Tor IV
Cemetery: Wiener Zentralfriedhof
Cemetery Address: XI. Simmeringer Hauptstrasse 244
Cemetery Burials: 58804
Cemetery Comments: New Jewish cemetery in Vienna with graves from
1918-present. Data compiled by Mag. Walter Pagler


German SIG #Germany Questions about a JOWBR entry for a cousin - Michael ORLOW #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Michael ORLOW, my mom's first cousin's father had this entry in the
JOWBR . I don't understand. I don't understand why he would be in a
cemetery, since he was murdered by the Nazis. ?? I didn't know that any
of those lost were buried- and that there would be burial notes and all.
All of his family who lived were out of Germany by that time. I believe
he and his wife were divorced. My grandfather gave him money to try to
get to Vienna either before he left or he sent it to him >from America.
My mom was a kid so she doesn't know the details. the only other
members of our family who were lost in the Shoah who have headstones are
memorials made at the site where there children were buried decades
later. Can someone explain? Thank you so much.

Lin Herz, Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com

JOWBR - Jewishgen Online World Burial Registry - entry:

Name: Michael Orlow
Birth Date: abt 1883
Death Date: 2 Jan 1940
Death Place: Buchenwald
Age at Death: 57
Burial Date: 9 Feb 1940
Burial Plot: Section: T4 Group: 020 A Row: 28 Grave: 23
Burial Place: Vienna, Austria
Comments: Address: 1090, Servitengasse 4, Comments: Urne
Other Comments: Tor IV
Cemetery: Wiener Zentralfriedhof
Cemetery Address: XI. Simmeringer Hauptstrasse 244
Cemetery Burials: 58804
Cemetery Comments: New Jewish cemetery in Vienna with graves from
1918-present. Data compiled by Mag. Walter Pagler


Honoring JewishGen's Volunteers #bessarabia

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Dear Friends,

On June 2, we will be honoring Karen Franklin, Gary Mokotoff, and
Lance Ackerfeld, for their leadership and dedication to JewishGen.

After working with each of these individuals for years, it gives
me great pleasure to see that they will get just a small measure
of the recognition they deserve.

Please join me in honoring them and participate in JewishGen's
Spring Brunch, which be held in New York on June 2. We will
also publish a tribute journal, and I invite you to place an ad.

You can register for the brunch and/or place an ad by calling
646-437-4326, or by visiting http://www.JewishGen.org/Event

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Honoring JewishGen's Volunteers #bessarabia

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Dear Friends,

On June 2, we will be honoring Karen Franklin, Gary Mokotoff, and
Lance Ackerfeld, for their leadership and dedication to JewishGen.

After working with each of these individuals for years, it gives
me great pleasure to see that they will get just a small measure
of the recognition they deserve.

Please join me in honoring them and participate in JewishGen's
Spring Brunch, which be held in New York on June 2. We will
also publish a tribute journal, and I invite you to place an ad.

You can register for the brunch and/or place an ad by calling
646-437-4326, or by visiting http://www.JewishGen.org/Event

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen

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