Re: Sourcing Photos #general #photographs

Phil Karlin

Personally I don't trust metadata. I name the file to reflect contents: Date in YYYY-MM-DD followed by the names of people in the picture or a descriptive word or two. If I don't know the year, I'll put my best guess followed by "ca" for circa, e.g. 1956 ca. I can search in Windows file explorer easily. And it's fully transportable between programs and platforms. A file name is a file name.

To comment on adding text to the front of the picture, I'd say it's a matter of the purpose of the file. On the rare occasion I've done it, I've kept a clean copy of the picture as well. Storage is cheap! You can buy a 2TB external drive for $65. Don't worry about duplicates.

Family connection found #poland

Lee Jaffe

I know this list is usually used to ask for help or announce new programs or resources.  But I've just had a such a remarkable experience where a rapid series of coincidences resulted in an unexpected find and wanted to share it.

I'm not that familiar with JewishGen's resources and haven't made much use of them.  For that reason, I took their introduction class earlier this week.  I do have an account and I'm registered with Family Finder as a researcher for two branches of my family tree.  I haven't had much luck locating other's searching my families – there being only one other, who passed away in 2002.  During last week's class I was rechecking these entries and made a note of his name to follow up in case there was a tree remaining on Ancestry. 

I also learned that it was possible to search Family Finder by location without a family name.  When I tried that, I browsed the resulting list and noticed an unusual family name that happened to belong to my old high school friend David.  I sent David a note, telling him about my discovery and asking if his family had come from Suchowola.  He responded that, yes, they had ... and, in fact, two other high school classmates, Debbie and Kerry, also had family from that town.   Sadly, Debbie had died last April, but Kerry and David had both done research into Suchowola and Kerry had toured the town with a video camera a few years back.  In my high school days, not only was I not interested in my family history, but our family connection to Suchowola wasn't discovered until I i was in graduate school, when I taped my grandfather recounting his family's story.  Still it was a bit of a blow to realize now, 50 years after-the-fact, that I'd missed the opportunity to connect with my school friends over shared family history, especially now that one had passed away.

That same day, I followed up the lead using the name of researcher who'd passed away.  He was the husband of one of my father's cousins, and it turned out that their youngest daughter had recently launched a family tree on Ancestry using her father's notes.  I sent her a message explaining our relationship and asking if we could exchange information.  Our grandfathers were brothers, two of eight children, who dispersed between Memphis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, and the next generation was even more far-flung.  The cousin I contacted was part of the Pittsburgh branch, none of whom I'd ever met.   I received a very enthusiastic answer from her and her two older sisters and we've shared each others trees and begun to exchange notes about more opaque parts of our family trees.  The following morning I received a long note from one of the older sisters who had more firsthand experience of the family.  Among  the memories she shared, such as having dinner with my grandfather and visiting with family in Israel, she mentioned that our cousin Debbie had died in April.  Yes, the same Debbie from my high school class, the same one whose connection to Suchowola I'd learned of the only day before, was my second cousin.  Debbie was the granddaughter of my grandfather's youngest sister Freda.  And I had no idea until these two threads same together, coincidentally, within a period of 24 hours.  

You may be asking, "What the hell is wrong with this family?  How could cousins living in the same town and going to the same school not know they were related?"  Well. I'm asking that same question.  For reasons I've yet to uncover, I never met my grandfather's sister Freda or any of her family.  In fact, I met only one of my grandfather's siblings, and then only once and only by accident, even though it would have been quite possible.  And I haven't met anyone from the following generations.  My genealogical research didn't help.   I'd reached as far as Debbie's mother, that she had married and had two daughters, but not filled in their names.  (Ancestry still can't locate any vital records for Debbie, even after I manually entered her name into the record.). But it wasn't just me.  When I first heard about the classmates connected to Suchowola (before the more surprising revelation), I sent a note to two of my older first cousins with David, Kerry, and Debbie's names, asking if they were aware of any family connection.  None.  It's one of the most baffling and frustrating aspects of my family's story, that the connections turned out to be so fragile: that my grandfather would constantly recite the family tree – "my brother..."  "my sister's kids ..." – but never brought us together;  that I could go to school for four years with a cousin and never know we were related.  Here I am poring over Polish records from the 19th century looking for links to people I can never know, and yet I have living family, some quite nearby, I may never know.  

Lee Jaffe
JAFFE - Suchowola
JOROFF - KOSHKIN - Shchors/Snovks
SCHWARTZ - Perth Amboy

From Which Viewpoint Are Cousins Named? #general #names

Carl Kaplan

I have never found an answer for which viewpoint is used to determine a connection to a cousin. I recently discovered the great-granddaughter of my great-great-grandfather. From my standpoint I would think she would be my 3rd cousin, once removed. However, Ancestry says she is my 2nd cousin, once removed (up a generation). That seems to be from her viewpoint. I then checked the great-granddaughter of my grandfather. This time Ancestry looked at it from my viewpoint, and labeled her my 1st cousin, once removed. (down a generation). Can someone clarify, as I have always wondered. Thanks.

Carl Kaplan
Kaplan, Edelsen (Minsk)
Steinberg (Lviv)
Hoffert, Bienenstock (Kolbuzowa)

Re: Translate Yiddish Grave #photographs #translation #yiddish


Hi Tammy, 

There is just one correction from the excellent translation by Joseph Ash.
The name of the father of the deceased person is Menachem Arieh. Arieh is a middle name and not an abbreviation of "land of Israel" 

Best regards  
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet, Israel 

Re: Name of Mendelson #names


Hi All
So as I stated in my previous post I have researched this line for years and have it going back to the 1700's. As far as the records revealed my earliest ancestor is Shlomo Mendelson born about 1760. It is not known to me how many children he had. I only have names of two, Nochim born 1788, and Yankel born 1801. Each of them had children and so fourth the branches spread. I have well over 100 names and about 65 of them are a mystery fate unknown. So, I always seek to find connections to help me fill in the blanks. There are decendants out there, that I have been unable to make contact with as of yet but I know they are out there. Some of those maybe under the surname of Doctoroff, Woll/Wall, Allen, and Dumchin to name a few. So if anyone of you out there has any of these connections please contact me. I understand that over the course of history people moved around a lot due to numerous wars and dislike, but I am positive that my line stems solely from Mogilev/Shklove Belarus. Feel free to ask me questions.
Sarah Greenberg(USA)

Re: Other names for Yitzchak? #names

Alyssa Freeman

Yitzchak is "Isaac" in Hebrew.

Alyssa Freeman
Henrico, VA

Re: Har Nebo Cemetery in Phila #photographs #usa

Bonnie Keyser

This is a very sad cemetery in an urban neighborhood. 
Many graves are in bad condition. Stones have fallen down or been pushed over. It’s quite expensive to fix those stones as I found out. 


Rezniks of Pohost, (Slutsk) and New York #belarus #usa


Based on the death certificate of her eldest son David Blistein, I have long assumed that one of my great grandmothers was named Esther Resnick (Blistein) .  Recently I had an old Yiddish letter translated. It  was written to my grandfather in either 1953 or 1959  from his cousin Nathan Resnick in the Bronx.  Using the names of Nathan's wife and daughter in the letter, we were able to trace his brother and sister, also in New York and learn from manifests and death certificates, that their father's name was Abram Resnick, or Resnik or Reznik and that the family came from Pohost.  Since both my grandparents came from the Slutsk area, this was no surprise but we would very much like to find some evidence that Abram Reznik was a sibling of  Esther Resnick who died in childbirth in 1890.  Any Resnicks from Pohost out there?

Re: Hungarian labor brigades - first person narrations #russia #hungary #romania #ukraine

Bob Friedman

These are two possibilities.  I haven't read them myself so I can't say how useful they might be.
Bob Friedman
Brooklyn, NY


Felissa Lashley

I need some assistance in finding the passenger record to Ellis Island for my grandfather, Pincus LISHINSKY spelt a variety of ways. He said that he arrived on the SS St. Louis from Southampton to Ellis Island on January 23, 1905. One time, it was noted that he entered through Philadelphia. He would have been travelling alone I believe, age 28-30, a tailor, married from Gorodische, Cherkassy, Kiev, Russia. I have tried using the Steve Morse site but have not had any luck to date. I would appreciate any suggestions please. Thank you.
Felissa Lashley
Austin, Texas

Re: Sourcing Photos #general #photographs

Dahn Cukier

First, I will say I am against changes to original images.

In Windows there are many apps to add text. PAINT and IRFANVIEW
both permit adding text.

PAINT (and maybe IRFANVIEW) will permit stretching the photo and add
text in the new area.

Irfanview will permit notes to the metadata which is not shown
on the photo.

Linux. EXIFTOOL a CLI that permits adding metadata.

NOTE: I do not change metadata except for orientation. I use an
index file of all photos to be displayed and BK for documentation
captured from computer screens. Documentation file names contain the name of
the subject. The index file lets me document a wedding photo with 20 people
per photo, and find it easily.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 07:34:09 PM GMT+3, susiekrumholz via <> wrote:

Do you mind sharing that app (and IOS or Windows or ?) that allows you to add labeling and comments at the bottom under the photo?  I have not heard of this and need it badly!!!!  Thanks for all of your comments!

Re: "High Rabbi" in Poland, Ger Rabbi #poland #warsaw #rabbinic

Elizabeth Jackson

Thank you to all who have responded to my post.  This group is so wonderful at sharing information.  All of your suggestions and insight have been most helpful.  

I may never know for sure which Rabbi my grandfather visited, but I now have a better idea of why he would have made this trip.  I only learned recently that the family was Chasidic.  My mother had only said her family was Orthodox.  However, her mother was a Klepfisz and that family had many members who were Rabbis.  

Does anyone know if there were any lists of who were members of specific religious sects?  I know so little about my grandfather, I am searching for any means of learning more.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

Elizabeth Jackson

Re: Translate Yiddish Grave #photographs #translation #yiddish

The translation:
A dear and honorable man
young age mo"h (morenu harav our teacher the rabi- usually it doesn't mean he was a rabi)
son of Moshe Ary(eh) n"y(nero yair - his candle will light means his fther was alive)
Ribnik (Rivnik) died
2nd day of Passover 
year 5,685
May his soul be bound in the bond of life

The death date 31 March 1926.

Re: Town in Hungary KOMIDAT (UNGAR) #hungary

Susan H. Sachs

Here is information on a town with a similar name in Hungarian:
Uzhhorod was called Ungvar in Hungarian, which covered most of its history of the past 100 years.

Good luck -

Re: Translate Yiddish Grave #photographs #translation #yiddish

David Shapiro

Not "land of Israel", rather "Aryeh", i.e. the father's full name was 'Menachem Aryeh'. And "may his light shine" indicates that the father was still alive at the time.

David Shapiro

Re: Records in the Lithuanian database #lithuania

Joel Ratner

I have never had any knowledge of those records - someone in LitvakSIG who has access to the database may be able to help.

Joel Ratner

Herbert (Naphtali) BACHARACH of Mansbach (Hessen) and Kiryat Bialik (Israel) #germany #israel #holocaust

Ralph Baer

My closest relative who perished in the Holocaust was my mother’s father’s sister Hedwig BACHARACH née GUNZENHÄUSER (23 July 1884 Memmelsdorf in Unterfranken, Bayern  – 1944 Auschwitz), married to Sally BACHARACH (14 October 1883 Mansbach, Hessen – 19 November 1944 Buchenwald). 
They had three sons, all born in Mansbach. The second, Rudi, was killed in 1936 while studying farming in Germany, so that he could immigrate to Palestine. The youngest, Max, moved to Sweden, and I have been in contact with one of his children.
The oldest was Herbert. He moved to Israel, at the time Palestine, and was called there Naphtali. According to Pages of Testimony which he wrote for his parents and brother Rudi, he lived in Kiryat Bialik. He stopped contact with his brother in Sweden because the brother married a non-Jew from Germany. A mutual first cousin of my mother and him who lived in Haifa and is now dead, also did not know what became of Herbert (Naphtali) BACHARACH.
Is anyone familiar with him and can supply information as to whether he married, had descendants, etc.?
Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC

Message For Newly-Found COHEN Family #usa #general


Fellow Searchers -

Invigorated by the response to my recent posting of the many family names I actively search, I figured it might be worth taking a specialized shot in my COHEN search:


It was just one week ago that I actually found descendants of my Beral William ‘Willy’ COHEN, b: +-1902, Kovno, and later lived in Bronx and Brooklyn; m: Mary FRIEDMAN. Willy is one of my grandmother’s brothers (possibly the youngest) and was in the coat business in Brooklyn with another brother, Julius, m: Clara OFFMAN / HOFFMAN.


So, Willy and Mary had NY-born: (another) Julius, Robert Bernard, and Marsha, and I just found Robert’s descendants !!!! 

They live just north of me in Texas (what are the chances of that?) BUT ARE NOT RESPONDING TO MY FACEBOOK OR TELEPHONE MESSAGE, and I do not want to bug them.

I only want to connect with them because of the unusual and amazing (to me, anyway) immigration story of their grandfather, Willy, that his descendants should know.

So, if anyone out there knows Julie (COHEN) MCBRIDE and/or Mark S. COHEN, of North Texas, please tell them a family-member storyteller has a story for them.

‘Thank you’ is not enough.

Sandi (Blumenthal) Root


Actively searching:



Re: Sourcing Photos #general #photographs

Sally Bruckheimer

"Do you mind sharing that app (and IOS or Windows or ?) that allows you to add labeling and comments at the bottom under the photo?  I have not heard of this"
You can use almost any photo editor. I have several, but I like MS Paint. It comes with Windows, and you can add labels at the bottom or under each person in the photo - whatever you want.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Online Free Photo Archive Creates Mosaic of Collective Memory-Romania #romania

Jan Meisels Allen

Jan Lastman asks about how to move the line for the various years as she  said "seems to default to ”selected year”  when any search attempt is made, and I can’t see a way to remove this restriction." .I have had no problem clicking on any of the years and the photos for that year appear. It may be time consuming but that is the only way I see to do it if your search does not work.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Monitoring Committee

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