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Re: Where does the surname BEHAR originate from? #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

The name BEHAR or BEJAR is Sephardic, of course, and found in all
Sephardic communities. According to my dear friend Pere Bonnin's Sangre
Judia (4th edition) here are the dates of documents and the towns found
for the name:

BEHAR - 1492 Castilla
BEJAR - 1492, Salamanca
BEJA (a variant) was in Constantinople in 1933 (today's Istanbul).

Please check the index at SephardicGen.com (Jeff Malka's site) for much
more, as well as the name search engine at Sephardim.com (Harry Stein's site).
Both are excellent for Sephardic research.

In the UK, I would inquire at Bevis Marks, the Spanish and Portuguese
synagogue, whose archives are excellent.

Also, please do not use the pejorative word Marrano. Today, we use the
word Converso or Bnei Anusim. In most communities today, the word Marrano
is considered extremely ugly and should not be used. If you use it in New
Mexico, be prepared to duck and run!

The Sephardim were not saved by a Turkish ship in the manner described by
Marjorie Short. The Sephardic refugees were invited en masse to come to
Turkey by its ruler who hoped that they would help to build his country
with their expertise in many fields. A very large number of Sephardim left
Spain for Turkey, many more than would fit on a single ship!

The Sephardim who left Spain were not only in 1492. There was another large
outpouring in the years after 1391 when most Jewish communities were
decimated in Spain, its members murdered, massacred and forcibly converted
to Catholicism. Many left at that time, or converted and went underground.

In general, Sephardim went all over the world, to North Africa, to Western
Europe; to the Mediterranean area such as Sicily, Italy, Greece and Turkey;
eventually into Romania and Bulgaria and many Central European countries.
And eventually into Eastern Europe, including Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and
Belarus (where my family settled). And of course to the New World (Central
and South America, the Caribbean islands and the Southwest US), where many
of the explorers and settlers had Converso roots and know it today.

Also check FamilyTreeDNA.com's index for both BEHAR and BEJAR and see in
which projects the name is found.

with best wishes
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
New Mexico

From: marjorie short <giltrip202@verizon.net>
I searched a Sephardic community in a MA community who arrived here in
US abt 1912. They included several families with name Behar >from Belat,
Istanbul Turkey who had settled there after escaping the Spanish >Inquisition.

After the Inquisition, families who had finances were able to make their
way to Eastern European countries ie Netherlands, etc.

The Marranos ... those who couldn't afford to escape were eventually
saved by a Turkish ship that went to Turkey to offer escape to those who
had been unable leave. Some chose not to leave .. see Jewish Film
Society film, Last of the Marranos.
From: Rose Raymen <roseraymen@optusnet.com.au>
I'm currently researching the family history of a family by the name of
BEHAR and was wondering where this name originates from? I found Leah
BEHAR, Samuel BEHAR and Eugenie BEHAR in the 1911 UK census but would be
interested to know where they were born and when they emigrated to the
UK. I searched the Ancestry index and found a number of BEHAR families
who came >from the French Quarters in Constantinople, Turkey.

If anyone has any information on the origins of the name I'd be
interested in hearing >from them.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where does the surname BEHAR originate from? #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

The name BEHAR or BEJAR is Sephardic, of course, and found in all
Sephardic communities. According to my dear friend Pere Bonnin's Sangre
Judia (4th edition) here are the dates of documents and the towns found
for the name:

BEHAR - 1492 Castilla
BEJAR - 1492, Salamanca
BEJA (a variant) was in Constantinople in 1933 (today's Istanbul).

Please check the index at SephardicGen.com (Jeff Malka's site) for much
more, as well as the name search engine at Sephardim.com (Harry Stein's site).
Both are excellent for Sephardic research.

In the UK, I would inquire at Bevis Marks, the Spanish and Portuguese
synagogue, whose archives are excellent.

Also, please do not use the pejorative word Marrano. Today, we use the
word Converso or Bnei Anusim. In most communities today, the word Marrano
is considered extremely ugly and should not be used. If you use it in New
Mexico, be prepared to duck and run!

The Sephardim were not saved by a Turkish ship in the manner described by
Marjorie Short. The Sephardic refugees were invited en masse to come to
Turkey by its ruler who hoped that they would help to build his country
with their expertise in many fields. A very large number of Sephardim left
Spain for Turkey, many more than would fit on a single ship!

The Sephardim who left Spain were not only in 1492. There was another large
outpouring in the years after 1391 when most Jewish communities were
decimated in Spain, its members murdered, massacred and forcibly converted
to Catholicism. Many left at that time, or converted and went underground.

In general, Sephardim went all over the world, to North Africa, to Western
Europe; to the Mediterranean area such as Sicily, Italy, Greece and Turkey;
eventually into Romania and Bulgaria and many Central European countries.
And eventually into Eastern Europe, including Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and
Belarus (where my family settled). And of course to the New World (Central
and South America, the Caribbean islands and the Southwest US), where many
of the explorers and settlers had Converso roots and know it today.

Also check FamilyTreeDNA.com's index for both BEHAR and BEJAR and see in
which projects the name is found.

with best wishes
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
New Mexico

From: marjorie short <giltrip202@verizon.net>
I searched a Sephardic community in a MA community who arrived here in
US abt 1912. They included several families with name Behar >from Belat,
Istanbul Turkey who had settled there after escaping the Spanish >Inquisition.

After the Inquisition, families who had finances were able to make their
way to Eastern European countries ie Netherlands, etc.

The Marranos ... those who couldn't afford to escape were eventually
saved by a Turkish ship that went to Turkey to offer escape to those who
had been unable leave. Some chose not to leave .. see Jewish Film
Society film, Last of the Marranos.
From: Rose Raymen <roseraymen@optusnet.com.au>
I'm currently researching the family history of a family by the name of
BEHAR and was wondering where this name originates from? I found Leah
BEHAR, Samuel BEHAR and Eugenie BEHAR in the 1911 UK census but would be
interested to know where they were born and when they emigrated to the
UK. I searched the Ancestry index and found a number of BEHAR families
who came >from the French Quarters in Constantinople, Turkey.

If anyone has any information on the origins of the name I'd be
interested in hearing >from them.


Gassner family from Krakow #galicia

Ted Kotzin <tkotzin4713@...>
 

I am looking for details about my father-in-law's grandfather, Josef
Gassner. He appears to have been born in Debnike, a suburb of
Krakow, in 1839. He went to Antwerp around 1888 where he was a
diamond merchant. He was apparently there as late as 1915. He had
4 children, Leopold (my wife's grandfather), Ernestina, Helena, and
Adolph, all of whom were born in Krakow and came to America
between 1886 and 1902; I have plenty of information about them.
There is a family story that Josef and his children insisted they were
Austrian, not Polish, with the possibility that the family was >from
Vienna. I would like to know if anyone has further information about
Josef in Europe.

Note that there was another Joseph Gassner >from Krakow, born 1870,
who went to London and had 7 children; I have not yet determined
the exact relationship, but would guess his grandfather and Josef's
father were brothers.

Ted Kotzin
tkotzin4713@verizon.net

Researching:
BOAZ: Frankfurt, Atlanta. CIMBERG/KIMBERG: Kremenets (Ukraine).
FINKELHOR: Kovno Gubernia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. GASSNER: Krakow,
London, S. Africa, Belgium. KATKISKY: Kovno, Suvalki Gubernia.
KOCH/COOK: Kovno, Cincinnati. KOTZIN: Kovno, Moscow, S. Africa.
NEUMANN/NEWMAN: Frankfurt, New York, North Carolina. SINGER:
Lithuania, New York, Los Angeles, Israel. WAGNER: Kremenets, New York


Translation - Polish #galicia

Judy Rubin
 

I've posted an 1879 birth record in Polish for which I need a
translation. It is for Mechel Kohl who may be my grandmother's
brother.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27313

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Judy Rubin
New York, NY


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Gassner family from Krakow #galicia

Ted Kotzin <tkotzin4713@...>
 

I am looking for details about my father-in-law's grandfather, Josef
Gassner. He appears to have been born in Debnike, a suburb of
Krakow, in 1839. He went to Antwerp around 1888 where he was a
diamond merchant. He was apparently there as late as 1915. He had
4 children, Leopold (my wife's grandfather), Ernestina, Helena, and
Adolph, all of whom were born in Krakow and came to America
between 1886 and 1902; I have plenty of information about them.
There is a family story that Josef and his children insisted they were
Austrian, not Polish, with the possibility that the family was >from
Vienna. I would like to know if anyone has further information about
Josef in Europe.

Note that there was another Joseph Gassner >from Krakow, born 1870,
who went to London and had 7 children; I have not yet determined
the exact relationship, but would guess his grandfather and Josef's
father were brothers.

Ted Kotzin
tkotzin4713@verizon.net

Researching:
BOAZ: Frankfurt, Atlanta. CIMBERG/KIMBERG: Kremenets (Ukraine).
FINKELHOR: Kovno Gubernia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. GASSNER: Krakow,
London, S. Africa, Belgium. KATKISKY: Kovno, Suvalki Gubernia.
KOCH/COOK: Kovno, Cincinnati. KOTZIN: Kovno, Moscow, S. Africa.
NEUMANN/NEWMAN: Frankfurt, New York, North Carolina. SINGER:
Lithuania, New York, Los Angeles, Israel. WAGNER: Kremenets, New York


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Translation - Polish #galicia

Judy Rubin
 

I've posted an 1879 birth record in Polish for which I need a
translation. It is for Mechel Kohl who may be my grandmother's
brother.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27313

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Judy Rubin
New York, NY


Re: Rabbi KEIDENOWER, Frankfurt, Berchat Hawewach? #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

The Maharshak is my ancestor.
Does anyone know the descendants of R. Nachum Katz son in law of the
Maharshak?
I had an ancestor R Aharon Shmuel Rav in Wolbrom around 1800. His
daughter, liba Basha Gettlich was my gggrandmother.

I'm missing links here and there.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Simchas Yomtov
N Dreyfus


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Rabbi KEIDENOWER, Frankfurt, Berchat Hawewach? #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

The Maharshak is my ancestor.
Does anyone know the descendants of R. Nachum Katz son in law of the
Maharshak?
I had an ancestor R Aharon Shmuel Rav in Wolbrom around 1800. His
daughter, liba Basha Gettlich was my gggrandmother.

I'm missing links here and there.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Simchas Yomtov
N Dreyfus


OPPENHEIMER-ROSENBAUM - Thank you! #germany

SandyR <sbr19@...>
 

Please thank those who help you and support GerSIG, ViewMate and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear list
I want to thank all who responded to my inqury of Aron OPPENHEIMER - b.1848
from Schluchtern.
Many of you sent me information and as yet I have not had
the time to review it all. My OPPENHEIMER relative married a Chana or
Hannchen ROSENBAUM, b.1853 and I wanted to see if there existed a tree
from the family.
I hope to respond everyone as soon as I review all the mail I received.

Sincerely, Sandy Rothschild, Monsey, New York sbr19@verizon.net


German SIG #Germany OPPENHEIMER-ROSENBAUM - Thank you! #germany

SandyR <sbr19@...>
 

Please thank those who help you and support GerSIG, ViewMate and JewishGen
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors0.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear list
I want to thank all who responded to my inqury of Aron OPPENHEIMER - b.1848
from Schluchtern.
Many of you sent me information and as yet I have not had
the time to review it all. My OPPENHEIMER relative married a Chana or
Hannchen ROSENBAUM, b.1853 and I wanted to see if there existed a tree
from the family.
I hope to respond everyone as soon as I review all the mail I received.

Sincerely, Sandy Rothschild, Monsey, New York sbr19@verizon.net


Re: In memory of Grigory Chosid from Grodno #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Dear All
We are sorry to inform you of the passing of Grigory (Tzvi) Chosid
of Grodno. Most of you who travelled to Grodno, Belarus, probably met
with this person. He was 87 years old, one of the eldest members of
Grodno Jewish community and Grodno ghetto survivor. During the WW2 he
miraculously was able to escape >from the train that transported Jews >from Grodno
ghetto to Auschwitz concentration camp, and he ended up in Belsky's partizan
unit. All his relatives and family perished in Holocaust. After the war all
his life he used to work as a school teacher. He spoke 6 foreign languages
He used to be a head of Grodno Jewish community for many years. Grodno
authorities made an exception and gave permission to bury Mr. Chosid at the
old Jewish cemetery, which was closed for burials a long time ago.
May we share only happy occasions together.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage
Research Group in Belarus
Minsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: In memory of Grigory Chosid from Grodno #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Dear All
We are sorry to inform you of the passing of Grigory (Tzvi) Chosid
of Grodno. Most of you who travelled to Grodno, Belarus, probably met
with this person. He was 87 years old, one of the eldest members of
Grodno Jewish community and Grodno ghetto survivor. During the WW2 he
miraculously was able to escape >from the train that transported Jews >from Grodno
ghetto to Auschwitz concentration camp, and he ended up in Belsky's partizan
unit. All his relatives and family perished in Holocaust. After the war all
his life he used to work as a school teacher. He spoke 6 foreign languages
He used to be a head of Grodno Jewish community for many years. Grodno
authorities made an exception and gave permission to bury Mr. Chosid at the
old Jewish cemetery, which was closed for burials a long time ago.
May we share only happy occasions together.

Yuri Dorn
Coordinator of Jewish Heritage
Research Group in Belarus
Minsk


May 19 Phoenix JGS Meeting #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Date & Time: May 19, 2013 1-3 PM at Beth El Congregation 1118 W Glendale
Ave, Phoenix
Phone: 602-944-3359 ext 123
Email for more info: jsilverman@bethelphoenix.com

The Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Society holds monthly Sunday afternoon
Open-Houses during which we begin with a brief refresher on a particular
resource or method of research based on questions >from participants.
Experienced researchers are available to give individual assistance.

Sunday afternoon entrance to the building is through the Schurgin Center
door in the rear of the main building at Beth El. Participation in any
(or all) workshops/refreshers/meetings is free to members, $5 for
non-members (which includes annual membership).

Bring your lap-top (we have wi-fi) or use one of our internet-connected
computers. These programs are co-sponsored by the Arizona Jewish
Historical Society and Beth El Congregation.

Janette Silverman
President, Phoenix JGS
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Projects Director


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen May 19 Phoenix JGS Meeting #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Date & Time: May 19, 2013 1-3 PM at Beth El Congregation 1118 W Glendale
Ave, Phoenix
Phone: 602-944-3359 ext 123
Email for more info: jsilverman@bethelphoenix.com

The Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Society holds monthly Sunday afternoon
Open-Houses during which we begin with a brief refresher on a particular
resource or method of research based on questions >from participants.
Experienced researchers are available to give individual assistance.

Sunday afternoon entrance to the building is through the Schurgin Center
door in the rear of the main building at Beth El. Participation in any
(or all) workshops/refreshers/meetings is free to members, $5 for
non-members (which includes annual membership).

Bring your lap-top (we have wi-fi) or use one of our internet-connected
computers. These programs are co-sponsored by the Arizona Jewish
Historical Society and Beth El Congregation.

Janette Silverman
President, Phoenix JGS
JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Projects Director


Re: Polish translations needed #general

Olivier Dzik <olivierdzik@...>
 

Dear all,

I've posted vital record of a ggg grandfather, aunt, uncle >from
Siedlce a town >from Poland (names is mostly Siekera). Records are
probably in Polish and I need a detailed translation,(all mentioned
names,profession, cause of death).

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27285
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27286
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27287
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27288

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much. Arie Dzik


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Polish translations needed #poland

Olivier Dzik <olivierdzik@...>
 

Dear all,

I've posted vital record of a ggg grandfather, aunt, uncle >from
Siedlce a town >from Poland (names is mostly Siekera). Records are
probably in Polish and I need a detailed translation,(all mentioned
names,profession, cause of death).

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27285
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27286
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27287
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27288

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much. Arie Dzik


Warszawczyk #general

Ajzenberg Michel <miajzenberg@...>
 

In my genealogical tree I have only one branch which is still missing. This
branch concerns my mother's cousin who's name is Warszawczyk (I'm quite sure
about the spelling).

He lived in New-York and more precisely in Brooklyn. I visited him in 1979
but I lost his complete address. He was born around 1915 so I suppose he is
not living anymore but I would be happy to get in touch with his children.

If it could help I have an old picture of him and his family. Does anyone
of you have an idea on how to proceed?

Thank's
Michel Ajsenberg
Paris- France

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with contact information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Warszawczyk #general

Ajzenberg Michel <miajzenberg@...>
 

In my genealogical tree I have only one branch which is still missing. This
branch concerns my mother's cousin who's name is Warszawczyk (I'm quite sure
about the spelling).

He lived in New-York and more precisely in Brooklyn. I visited him in 1979
but I lost his complete address. He was born around 1915 so I suppose he is
not living anymore but I would be happy to get in touch with his children.

If it could help I have an old picture of him and his family. Does anyone
of you have an idea on how to proceed?

Thank's
Michel Ajsenberg
Paris- France

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with contact information.


ViewMate translation request - Russian 1884 #general

rcbernstein
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a direct
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27295

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Ruvane Bernstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian 1884 #general

rcbernstein
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a direct
translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM27295

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Ruvane Bernstein

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