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Re: Spanish Name Changes #general

Alan Greenberg
 

The first thing to check is spelling changes to allow for Spanish
pronunciation. An example is Chaimovitch or Hymowitz will often be
spelled Jaimovich. You can do this >from pronunciation guides, but
your best bet is to ask a Spanish-speaking person how they would
spell the names as you pronounce them.

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

At 06/05/2013 02:19 PM, Shmuel fisher wrote:

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Spanish Name Changes #general

Alan Greenberg
 

The first thing to check is spelling changes to allow for Spanish
pronunciation. An example is Chaimovitch or Hymowitz will often be
spelled Jaimovich. You can do this >from pronunciation guides, but
your best bet is to ask a Spanish-speaking person how they would
spell the names as you pronounce them.

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

At 06/05/2013 02:19 PM, Shmuel fisher wrote:

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?


JGSCT Program, May 19, 1:30 pm, Godfrey Library, Middletown, CT #general

gkr
 

My Home Is Gone - Remnants of Jewish Poland

Please join the Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut on Sunday, May
19, 2013 at 1:30 pm at Godfrey Memorial Library, 134 Newfield Street,
Middletown, CT. The program is free and open to all.

Award-winning speaker, author, teacher, and blogger Barbara Krasner presents
her trip to Warsaw and her grandparents' shtetlikh in 2008, which connected
her to her roots. >from the 16th century synagogue at Tykocin to Warsaw's
memorials to the Jewish ghetto, discover the Jewish heritage of Poland
through this photographic journey.

Barbara Krasner is an award-winning speaker, workshop leader, and published
author of 200 articles, four books, including Discovering Your Jewish
Heritage (Heritage Quest, 2001), short stories, and poems for adults and
young readers. She publishes the popular blog for writers of Jewish story,
The Whole Megillah (http://thewholemegillah.wordpress.com). She holds an MFA
in Writing >from the Vermont College of Fine Arts, an MBA in Marketing from
Rutgers University, and is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Douglass College,
where she majored in German. She teaches business writing and creative
writing as an adjunct at William Paterson University in New Jersey.

For additional information, see www.jgsct.org.

Gail Kalison Reynolds, Publicity Chair, Jewish Genealogical Society of CT
Higganum, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSCT Program, May 19, 1:30 pm, Godfrey Library, Middletown, CT #general

gkr
 

My Home Is Gone - Remnants of Jewish Poland

Please join the Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut on Sunday, May
19, 2013 at 1:30 pm at Godfrey Memorial Library, 134 Newfield Street,
Middletown, CT. The program is free and open to all.

Award-winning speaker, author, teacher, and blogger Barbara Krasner presents
her trip to Warsaw and her grandparents' shtetlikh in 2008, which connected
her to her roots. >from the 16th century synagogue at Tykocin to Warsaw's
memorials to the Jewish ghetto, discover the Jewish heritage of Poland
through this photographic journey.

Barbara Krasner is an award-winning speaker, workshop leader, and published
author of 200 articles, four books, including Discovering Your Jewish
Heritage (Heritage Quest, 2001), short stories, and poems for adults and
young readers. She publishes the popular blog for writers of Jewish story,
The Whole Megillah (http://thewholemegillah.wordpress.com). She holds an MFA
in Writing >from the Vermont College of Fine Arts, an MBA in Marketing from
Rutgers University, and is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Douglass College,
where she majored in German. She teaches business writing and creative
writing as an adjunct at William Paterson University in New Jersey.

For additional information, see www.jgsct.org.

Gail Kalison Reynolds, Publicity Chair, Jewish Genealogical Society of CT
Higganum, CT


Cemeteries in Horodok area #galicia

Bette Stoop Mas <bette_sscf@...>
 

Sherri Venezia inquired about Jewish cemeteries "in Tuchapy or Hartfeld
(Rzeczyczny), Horodok, or the areas around (south, up in the hills)
Sadowa Wisznia or Mosciska."

International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
International Jewish Cemetery Project
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ >
Europe > Eastern Europe > Ukraine > (2534 articles)

Gorodok: (Gordok Jagiellonski) L'vovskaya
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/gorodok-lvovskaya-oblast.html >

Sadowa Wisznia: (Polish) See Sudovaya Vishnya
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/sudovaya-vishnya.html >

(additionally for Galicia)
Europe > Eastern Europe > Poland (1577 articles)

(also recommended on this topic)
Omer Bartov's book, "Erased: Vanishing Traces of Jewish Galicia in
Present Day Ukraine"

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Cemeteries in Horodok area #galicia

Bette Stoop Mas <bette_sscf@...>
 

Sherri Venezia inquired about Jewish cemeteries "in Tuchapy or Hartfeld
(Rzeczyczny), Horodok, or the areas around (south, up in the hills)
Sadowa Wisznia or Mosciska."

International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
International Jewish Cemetery Project
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ >
Europe > Eastern Europe > Ukraine > (2534 articles)

Gorodok: (Gordok Jagiellonski) L'vovskaya
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/gorodok-lvovskaya-oblast.html >

Sadowa Wisznia: (Polish) See Sudovaya Vishnya
< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/sudovaya-vishnya.html >

(additionally for Galicia)
Europe > Eastern Europe > Poland (1577 articles)

(also recommended on this topic)
Omer Bartov's book, "Erased: Vanishing Traces of Jewish Galicia in
Present Day Ukraine"

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


Location of Horodok Jewish Cemetery - galicia digest: May 09, 2013 #galicia

Marla Raucher Osborn <osborn@...>
 

Sherri Venezia asked about the location of the former Jewish
cemetery of the Galicia town of Horodok in the Lviv Oblast.

Gesher Galicia has some information for the town here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/towns/horodok/

There is also an entry (with location coordinates) for your town on
the website of the International Jewish Cemetery Project:

< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/gorodok-lvovskaya-oblast.html >

Using the coordinates, you should be able to plug them into Google
Maps and get a location (for your next visit, of course).

I don't know if you are aware that there is also a JewishGen shtetl
page for the town:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodok/

On that page there is also a link to a crude but perhaps useful map
which on the far left edge has an arrow in the direction of the
former Jewish cemetery (apparently in the same direction as the
train station):

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodok/Maps/gorodok-maps.html

Regrettably, the link further down on the website to a map >from the
Simon Wiesenthal Center is broken, but perhaps you can contact them
for a copy.

I hope this helps a little.

Warm regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Member of the Board of Gesher Galicia

Paris, France
osborn@nuthatch.org

Researching surnames:
HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (Galicia, today Ukraine);
KURZROCK >from Kozova (Galicia, today Ukraine);
TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, today Ukraine); SILBER, BAUMANN,
and SCHARF >from Ulanow and Sokolow Malopolska (Galicia, Poland);
RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and KESTENBAUM >from Przemysl (Galicia, Poland);
BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova) and BRUNSHTEIN, MOGALNIK,
SARFAS, and FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine)

Sherri Venezia <sher@omsoft.com> wrote:

<< ...I wonder if anyone knows where Jewish families would have been
buried if they lived in Tuchapy or Hartfeld (Rzeczyczny), Horodok,
or the areas around (south, up in the hills) Sadowa Wisznia or
Mosciska? I did find the Holocaust memorial gravesite in Horodok, now
being encroached upon by new housing, but no actual former cemetery... >>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Location of Horodok Jewish Cemetery - galicia digest: May 09, 2013 #galicia

Marla Raucher Osborn <osborn@...>
 

Sherri Venezia asked about the location of the former Jewish
cemetery of the Galicia town of Horodok in the Lviv Oblast.

Gesher Galicia has some information for the town here:

http://www.geshergalicia.org/towns/horodok/

There is also an entry (with location coordinates) for your town on
the website of the International Jewish Cemetery Project:

< http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/gorodok-lvovskaya-oblast.html >

Using the coordinates, you should be able to plug them into Google
Maps and get a location (for your next visit, of course).

I don't know if you are aware that there is also a JewishGen shtetl
page for the town:

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodok/

On that page there is also a link to a crude but perhaps useful map
which on the far left edge has an arrow in the direction of the
former Jewish cemetery (apparently in the same direction as the
train station):

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/gorodok/Maps/gorodok-maps.html

Regrettably, the link further down on the website to a map >from the
Simon Wiesenthal Center is broken, but perhaps you can contact them
for a copy.

I hope this helps a little.

Warm regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Member of the Board of Gesher Galicia

Paris, France
osborn@nuthatch.org

Researching surnames:
HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (Galicia, today Ukraine);
KURZROCK >from Kozova (Galicia, today Ukraine);
TEICHMAN >from Chodorow (Galicia, today Ukraine); SILBER, BAUMANN,
and SCHARF >from Ulanow and Sokolow Malopolska (Galicia, Poland);
RAUCHER/RAUSCHER and KESTENBAUM >from Przemysl (Galicia, Poland);
BLECHER >from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova) and BRUNSHTEIN, MOGALNIK,
SARFAS, and FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (Ukraine)

Sherri Venezia <sher@omsoft.com> wrote:

<< ...I wonder if anyone knows where Jewish families would have been
buried if they lived in Tuchapy or Hartfeld (Rzeczyczny), Horodok,
or the areas around (south, up in the hills) Sadowa Wisznia or
Mosciska? I did find the Holocaust memorial gravesite in Horodok, now
being encroached upon by new housing, but no actual former cemetery... >>


Latest issue of the SA-SIG Newsletter is now available #southafrica

Roy Ogus
 

The latest issue of the SA-SIG Newsletter, April 2013, is now available on-line at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm#MENU

(The previous issues of the Newsletter can be found at that location as well.)

To learn more about the SA-SIG Newsletter, and to find out the subscription options, refer to the description at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm#about

Original article contributions are very welcome. If you would like to submit an article to the Newsletter, please contact the Editor, Colin Plen, or myself. Our contact information can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm

The SA-SIG home page can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica

Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Vice President, SA-SIG
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Latest issue of the SA-SIG Newsletter is now available #southafrica

Roy Ogus
 

The latest issue of the SA-SIG Newsletter, April 2013, is now available on-line at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm#MENU

(The previous issues of the Newsletter can be found at that location as well.)

To learn more about the SA-SIG Newsletter, and to find out the subscription options, refer to the description at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm#about

Original article contributions are very welcome. If you would like to submit an article to the Newsletter, please contact the Editor, Colin Plen, or myself. Our contact information can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/index.htm

The SA-SIG home page can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica

Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Vice President, SA-SIG
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


Seek origins of OPPENHEIMER, Schluchtern, Germany #germany

Sandy <sbr19@...>
 

Dear Gersig,

My OPPENHEIMER family goes back to Schluchtern, Germany. I have many
branches but have not been able to tie them to the one person who may have
started using the name OPPENHEIMER.

Does anyone have a tree that goes back to the beginning of the OPPENHEIMER
family of Schluctern? Thank you,

Sandy Rothschild, Monsey, NY sbr19@verizon.net


German SIG #Germany Seek origins of OPPENHEIMER, Schluchtern, Germany #germany

Sandy <sbr19@...>
 

Dear Gersig,

My OPPENHEIMER family goes back to Schluchtern, Germany. I have many
branches but have not been able to tie them to the one person who may have
started using the name OPPENHEIMER.

Does anyone have a tree that goes back to the beginning of the OPPENHEIMER
family of Schluctern? Thank you,

Sandy Rothschild, Monsey, NY sbr19@verizon.net


Re: A family memoir - April 1, 1933 boycott #germany

Diane Weber <oobliett@...>
 

Apparently the 1933 boycott was for all kinds of Jewish businesses.
My mother's father owned a barber shop in Hamburg, Germany, and had
to close down, but my mother never knew why.

She applied for compensation after the war and she was informed
that her father had "voluntarily" closed his business, and therefore
did not qualify for anything. Also, both my parents left Germany
in either late 1938 or early 1939 to Shanghai, never really explaining
why, just that my father was arrested and "miraculously" freed with
the condition he leave the country, which is actually what saved them.

Diane Weber, Carmichael, California oobliett@hotmail.com


German SIG #Germany Re: A family memoir - April 1, 1933 boycott #germany

Diane Weber <oobliett@...>
 

Apparently the 1933 boycott was for all kinds of Jewish businesses.
My mother's father owned a barber shop in Hamburg, Germany, and had
to close down, but my mother never knew why.

She applied for compensation after the war and she was informed
that her father had "voluntarily" closed his business, and therefore
did not qualify for anything. Also, both my parents left Germany
in either late 1938 or early 1939 to Shanghai, never really explaining
why, just that my father was arrested and "miraculously" freed with
the condition he leave the country, which is actually what saved them.

Diane Weber, Carmichael, California oobliett@hotmail.com


Re: the name Samuel SAMUEL - Iraqi? #sephardic

Shmuel Yoseph <shruyo@...>
 

Shalom Lisa Newman,
Generally this type of name is typical of Iraqi Jewry origin. And
Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Far East >from the very late 18th
century onwards. This type of nomenclature essentially states that
when surnames became formal, the fellow listed his father (or
grandfather's name as the family name. Prior or after he had a son
that he called after his father or grandfather. Thus the
manifestation: Samuel Samuel, Reuben Reuben, Joseph Joseph, etc etc.
If you have this name amongst your forefathers - then it is a big clue
that this ancestor (or his parents came >from Iraq or alternatively
Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Far East and then to Latvia. Although
more likely: Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Caucauses, Daghistan or
other European destinations in the last 300 years. And >from there -
continued on to Latvia - perhaps for business or other prospects.
Beli nedher, in a month when I unpack my books on Iraqi Jewry >from the
boxes, I can give a quick glance on Iraqi Jewry outside of Iraq and
see if the name "Samuel Samuel" pops up.

With all that said one must certainly not be blindly led into thinking
that this type of name is restricted to only Iraqi Jewry. I have come
upon Ashkenazim that have surnames as first names, undoubtly for the
same reasons as Iraqi Jewry. The families I have come upon bare the
surnames Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Samuel (don't know if it is yours).
Some of these Ashkenazi families, for some reason or other, add an "s"
as well: Samuels, Jacobs, Isaacs.
The only have not stumbled across any Ashkenazi personalities that had
their first name as their last, like Iraqi Jewry. For eg. the
ashkenazi "Joseph" famiily that I knew >from Sydney didn't have a
"Joseph Joseph". Although one should note, about 110 years ago, one of
the Governors of the State of New South Wales, in Sydney Australia was
a Jew by the name of Sir Isaac Isaac. I think he was Ashkenasi.
(Unlike my Bar-miswah teacher: Isaac Isaac - Iraqi origin, born
Calcutta!!).

Anyway concerning your forefather Samuel Samuel - if you can see the
types of names of his children - perhaps they be Arabic sounding, it
may provide a clue. Alternatively his mother's and/or father's name.

It is also known that in some cases Iraqi, Halabi and other Jews form
Arabic countries may have been stationed in Russia or other European
lands by appointment of the Ottoman Empire to serve as Ambassador to
these countries on behalf of the Ottoman Sultan. Perhaps your
forefather may have had such a position or similar.

Shabbath Shalom, Hodhesh Mevorakh and Hugh Sameah,
Sh'muel Reuven Yoseph
Ashqelon, Israel.
(originally >from Sydney, Australia - grandparents >from Baghdad,
parents >from Yangon and Singapore)). I also have an uncle by the name
of "Joseph Joseph" in London ....

===
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 11:09:16 -0400
From: lisa.newman.a@utoronto.ca

The name Samuel SAMUEL goes back into the 18th century in Latvia in
our family. I was told that it was a common name among Iraq Jews. If
anyone has any information about this name and its origins, I would be
grateful to know about it.

Lisa Newman
Toronto, Canada


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: the name Samuel SAMUEL - Iraqi? #sephardic

Shmuel Yoseph <shruyo@...>
 

Shalom Lisa Newman,
Generally this type of name is typical of Iraqi Jewry origin. And
Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Far East >from the very late 18th
century onwards. This type of nomenclature essentially states that
when surnames became formal, the fellow listed his father (or
grandfather's name as the family name. Prior or after he had a son
that he called after his father or grandfather. Thus the
manifestation: Samuel Samuel, Reuben Reuben, Joseph Joseph, etc etc.
If you have this name amongst your forefathers - then it is a big clue
that this ancestor (or his parents came >from Iraq or alternatively
Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Far East and then to Latvia. Although
more likely: Iraqi Jewry that migrated to the Caucauses, Daghistan or
other European destinations in the last 300 years. And >from there -
continued on to Latvia - perhaps for business or other prospects.
Beli nedher, in a month when I unpack my books on Iraqi Jewry >from the
boxes, I can give a quick glance on Iraqi Jewry outside of Iraq and
see if the name "Samuel Samuel" pops up.

With all that said one must certainly not be blindly led into thinking
that this type of name is restricted to only Iraqi Jewry. I have come
upon Ashkenazim that have surnames as first names, undoubtly for the
same reasons as Iraqi Jewry. The families I have come upon bare the
surnames Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Samuel (don't know if it is yours).
Some of these Ashkenazi families, for some reason or other, add an "s"
as well: Samuels, Jacobs, Isaacs.
The only have not stumbled across any Ashkenazi personalities that had
their first name as their last, like Iraqi Jewry. For eg. the
ashkenazi "Joseph" famiily that I knew >from Sydney didn't have a
"Joseph Joseph". Although one should note, about 110 years ago, one of
the Governors of the State of New South Wales, in Sydney Australia was
a Jew by the name of Sir Isaac Isaac. I think he was Ashkenasi.
(Unlike my Bar-miswah teacher: Isaac Isaac - Iraqi origin, born
Calcutta!!).

Anyway concerning your forefather Samuel Samuel - if you can see the
types of names of his children - perhaps they be Arabic sounding, it
may provide a clue. Alternatively his mother's and/or father's name.

It is also known that in some cases Iraqi, Halabi and other Jews form
Arabic countries may have been stationed in Russia or other European
lands by appointment of the Ottoman Empire to serve as Ambassador to
these countries on behalf of the Ottoman Sultan. Perhaps your
forefather may have had such a position or similar.

Shabbath Shalom, Hodhesh Mevorakh and Hugh Sameah,
Sh'muel Reuven Yoseph
Ashqelon, Israel.
(originally >from Sydney, Australia - grandparents >from Baghdad,
parents >from Yangon and Singapore)). I also have an uncle by the name
of "Joseph Joseph" in London ....

===
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 11:09:16 -0400
From: lisa.newman.a@utoronto.ca

The name Samuel SAMUEL goes back into the 18th century in Latvia in
our family. I was told that it was a common name among Iraq Jews. If
anyone has any information about this name and its origins, I would be
grateful to know about it.

Lisa Newman
Toronto, Canada


Re: Spanish Name Changes #general

montereybayrob@...
 

Shmuel,

I checked the Brazil Immigration records on Familysearch.org since many who
went to Argentina also went through Rio. There are some Kahanas listed.

Also, you should check the Bremen lists and the Hamburg indirect lists for
Argentina.

Best,
Rob Weisskirch

On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:46:34 PM UTC-7, Shmuel fisher wrote:
Out of the clear blue sky my first cousin emails me with the information
that our grandmother (Gitlya ) >from Kishinev Bessarabia was leaving the
country about 190? With her husband Joseph Rothpan and *her* sister's family.
However Gitlya's son Sam had pick eye and they couldn't get on the ship.
Her sister's family did get on and the ship went off to Argentina. The
Rothpans got on the next ship and that ship went to Canada. And that is how
my paternal family wound up in Montreal.

When I asked my cousin how she knew this information and did she have more,
the answer was no.

So I looked at the Bessarabian records and found my grandmother's birth
record and her marriage to my grandfather ( not Joe Rothpan).(I can't find
her marriage to Rothpan.) I knew her father was named Shmuel and I found
another woman born a few years apart >from Gitlya with the same father's
name. And I found her (Khava) marriage record to Eliyaho-Hirsh KAHANA.

So I started to look into Argentina's records for a person of that name.
That came up empty.

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Spanish Name Changes #general

montereybayrob@...
 

Shmuel,

I checked the Brazil Immigration records on Familysearch.org since many who
went to Argentina also went through Rio. There are some Kahanas listed.

Also, you should check the Bremen lists and the Hamburg indirect lists for
Argentina.

Best,
Rob Weisskirch

On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:46:34 PM UTC-7, Shmuel fisher wrote:
Out of the clear blue sky my first cousin emails me with the information
that our grandmother (Gitlya ) >from Kishinev Bessarabia was leaving the
country about 190? With her husband Joseph Rothpan and *her* sister's family.
However Gitlya's son Sam had pick eye and they couldn't get on the ship.
Her sister's family did get on and the ship went off to Argentina. The
Rothpans got on the next ship and that ship went to Canada. And that is how
my paternal family wound up in Montreal.

When I asked my cousin how she knew this information and did she have more,
the answer was no.

So I looked at the Bessarabian records and found my grandmother's birth
record and her marriage to my grandfather ( not Joe Rothpan).(I can't find
her marriage to Rothpan.) I knew her father was named Shmuel and I found
another woman born a few years apart >from Gitlya with the same father's
name. And I found her (Khava) marriage record to Eliyaho-Hirsh KAHANA.

So I started to look into Argentina's records for a person of that name.
That came up empty.

Now my question, what would a person modify there name in a Spanish speaking
country?


Re: Cemetery monument to Jewish Military in Sevastopol, Ukraine #general

Marilyn Robinson
 

In response to a message >from Ken Rothstein:

You can find some information regarding Jews/Crimean War/Sevastopol at:
yourjewishgem.blogspot.com.

Marilyn Robinson
Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cemetery monument to Jewish Military in Sevastopol, Ukraine #general

Marilyn Robinson
 

In response to a message >from Ken Rothstein:

You can find some information regarding Jews/Crimean War/Sevastopol at:
yourjewishgem.blogspot.com.

Marilyn Robinson
Florida

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