Re: thoughts - opinions

Dahn Cukier

There are good reasons on both sides. If the listing
is difficult, do not list on trees.

I have a husband/father who divorced and the former wife (my relative) and
children do have contact with the father. The mother remarried and
the children were adopted by the husband.

I was showing the biological family, but since I found out how
difficult it was to this branch, I made the father "unlinked" and put a
complete explanation in his notes, but no connection to the family.
In this way he never shows up in anything published.

The reason to keep him, is that - he is the biological father and
if there is ever a reason to find their ancestors, the information
and even copies of documents are in my records.


When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 5:03:23 AM GMT+2, <eagle0017@...> wrote:

I had an aunt who fell down a short flight of stairs during the 8 + month.  They rushed her to the hospital for a c section.  The baby was dead and my aunt was injured. She couldn't  have any children after that.  Needless to say she was sad the rest of her of her life at the lost of the child.  I would never mention the infant on my tree and it upsets me when a family member has it on their tree as a stillborn.  To me it was a tragedy.
Marge Hurl


Re: New System


Hello, you posted about the new system, you were responding to a previous post but I have no idea what the thread is or the original post. I went back a few days and couldn’t find it in recent  posts, I would like to know the subject and primary sender. I find this new system lacking miserably in this regard.
Thanks so much, Louise Hajdenberg

Re: New System

NS family

Maybe the silent majority are happy with the new layout and system. I know I am and add my support. 

Nich (on phone)

Re: thoughts - opinions


I had an aunt who fell down a short flight of stairs during the 8 + month.  They rushed her to the hospital for a c section.  The baby was dead and my aunt was injured. She couldn't  have any children after that.  Needless to say she was sad the rest of her of her life at the lost of the child.  I would never mention the infant on my tree and it upsets me when a family member has it on their tree as a stillborn.  To me it was a tragedy.
Marge Hurl


Re: Chaya Sura Weiss Slezinger #israel

Judy Jackson

Thank you David but dont understand what you are referring to b144.
Chaya Sura father was Berat or Bernard  Weiss Weisz was born 1892 in Raksin (Csapvic is also name of the village).Her parents died in the Shaoh as well as two siblings.Several siblings survived  Smuel Wolf,Alexander (Abraham). They all made aliya.
thank you very much for your assisstance.
Judy Weiss Jackson

Re: Lodz Jewish voter list 1924

Russ Maurer

So sorry you've had this trouble. I tested the link before posting it and it seemed to work fine, but like you, I now get an error message. Instead, do one of the following:
1. Go to and in the search bar type (or cut and paste)    
lista wyborców gminy wyznaniowej

This is enough of the file title that you will get just the Lodz voter list (which - my mistake - is 24 files, not 30). Note that the decoration on the "o" in wyborców is required.
2. Or, click on advanced search and in the space for the reference code type 39/228/0/-/xxx where xxx is any number from 499 to 522. This will get you the files one at a time.

Russ Maurer (vhrproject@...)
Pepper Pike, OH

ViewMate: Can you identify anyone in this photo: Friends & family reunion in Bad Ems in the mid-1920s

Joyaa Antares

Dear Fellow Researchers,


I have posted a photo of a mid-1920s friends/family reunion to ViewMate.    It shows 24 people.  


The photo was taken at the Hotel Staatl Kurhaus in Bad Ems, Germany but the identified family came from BERLIN (1870s), and prior to this from Scherwin and "Friedeberg".


The photo shows Aron LEVY, Louise (nee BADER) LEVY and their grandson, Eddie LEVY.   Aron and Louise moved from BERLIN to London, England in the 1880s.  I expect that many or all of the 21 unidentified people were based in Germany.   Aron was a Tailor or Hatter, so people from this profession may appear.   Young Eddie was a teenager so his profession isn't relevant, but if this is more of a family photo, then it will help to know that his mother's maiden name was SKOTZKI, and his maternal grandmother's maiden name was BANSEMER.


Do you recognise anyone?

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.


Thank you very much.




Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


Researching LEVY, BADER in Berlin, Schwerin, Friedeberg
KEMPNER in Berlin, Lodz, Warszawa and London
ZAUSMER, ZOUSMER, ZESMER, CHOUSMER, CHAUSMER, TSOUZMER etc, MARCUS, DAVIDOFF in Polangen, Kretinga, Darbenai, Libau, Riga, Memel
SCHORR, SCHERZER, JURIS and DAWID in Buckaczowce, Ottynia, Nadworna, and Kolomyya
ZUNDER in Buckaczowce and Ivano-Frankivsk


Re: Lodz Jewish voter list 1924

Deborah Blankenberg

I've been trying this link daily for the past five days. Each time, I get this error message: "Portlet is temporarily unavailable." Do you know if there's another way to access these records?--
Deborah Blankenberg (JewishGen ID #613395)
Lodi, CA
Researching BLOCH/BLOCK (Germany to New York, Colombia and Missouri), BLINDER (Kishinev to New York via Poland? and Paris), KUSHER/KUSZER (Lodz vicinity to New York via Paris), GOLDSCHMIDT (Germany)

Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Bob Silverstein

Zora, without revealing any secrets, could you outline how you found the family?

Re: New System

Helen Gottesman

I seem to be in the minority.  I like the new format and have only received one copy.  Helen Dobrin Gottesman
searching for Bukofzer, Dobrin, Davidsohn, (Poland, Germany)
Schwarz, Gutman, Weinmann, Greenhut, Grunhut, (germany, Poland)

Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Jane Alpert

Thanks so much for posting this heartening update.  Did you discover if there was a factual basis for the alleged Mexican connection?

February 5: genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #galicia

Moriah Amit

Family History Today: Jewish Students, Medical Globetrotters, and Persevering Women  


Date and time: Wednesday, February 5, 6:30 PM
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St., New York, NY 10011

At first, aspiring Jewish men from Galicia, Lithuania, and elsewhere ventured to Padua University to study medicine when other schools across Europe refused their admission. Then, from the end of the eighteenth century onward, Jews from Galicia attended Habsburg universities—from Lemberg/Lwów and Kraków, to Vienna, Pest and Prague. Many nineteenth-century Jewish medics influenced Galician life beyond their profession, advocating educational, religious and civic reforms. At the turn of the twentieth century, Jewish women were at the forefront of newly won access to university education, changing societal and family norms.


This presentation will take us across the countries and continents, with genealogical information illustrated by unique archival records, newspaper accounts, and maps. You don’t have to have medical practitioners among your ancestors to find this topic interesting and helpful in your family history research.


About the Speaker: Andrew Zalewski is a former professor of medicine at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia. He is the vice president of Gesher Galicia, a non-profit organization devoted to genealogical and historical research on Galicia. Andrew Zalewski has also authored two books on Austrian Galicia: Galician Trails: The Forgotten Story of One Family and Galician Portraits: In Search of Jewish Roots.

Tickets: or 800-838-3006 ($10 general admission; $5 Center for Jewish History/Partner members, seniors, and students)

This program is sponsored by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute and Gesher Galicia. It is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs in partnership with the City Council.

Viewmate translation request-Polish

Linda Habenstreit

I request a full translation, if possible, of the Polish text on death record number 33 from page 42 of the Polish State Archives, Archive 88, Fond 1264, for Belzec, Poland. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.

Thank you so much,

Linda Habenstreit

Re: Chaya Sura Weiss Slezinger #israel

David Barrett


Going into b144 lists families Shlezinger  of both names and not too many . It would mean ringing round to enquire if related


David Barrett

Jewish Genealogical Society New York January 26 Meeting

Phyllis Rosner

Jewish Genealogical Society NY Meeting
Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 2 p.m.
Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th St., New York

Lecture: The Sugihara Refugee Story: Survivors and Those Without Whom This Story Would Not Be Told
Speaker: Mark Halpern, 2018 Recipient of the IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award

Most Jewish genealogists know the story of Chiune Sugihara, the “Japanese Schindler.” Sugihara issued over 2,000 Japanese transit visas that enabled many Jews to escape war-torn Europe in the summer of 1940. In his talk, Mark Halpern will identify some of the many additional people – Europeans, Americans, Japanese – who participated in the rescue efforts, and talk about their exploits. He will trace one woman’s 15-year odyssey from Poland via Lithuania, Russia, Japan, China and Canada to Santa Monica, California, using her Sugihara transit visa to ultimately obtain US citizenship.  Mr. Halpern will document her journey using genealogical methods and records.

Mark Halpern was formerly an international businessman (who lived in Japan) who became interested in his roots while on a business trip to Poland. Since his retirement, Mark serves in various leadership and research roles with, among other organizations, JRI–Poland, JewishGen, IAJGS, Gesher Galicia, and the Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia. In 2018 he received the 2018 IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award.

$5 at the door; free for JGSNY members 

More information on our website: and on our Facebook page

Submitted by:

Phyllis Rosner
JGSNY VP Communications
New York, NY

Re: thoughts - opinions


I will give a couple reasons to include babies who died at birth.
I recently corresponded with someone who did extensive research to determine a genetic disorder in his family. Part of this involved looking for children who died young in the family tree. However, the vast majority of the deaths in childhood that were so much more common in the past were probably just from the lacking medicine and sanitation and don't indicate anything hereditary.
In my family tree discovering multiple infant deaths has helped determine the birth order and approximate years of the surviving siblings by considering the pregnancy time for the deceased infant.
Finally, they are part of the family and the family story. Since they often were not discussed this is really the last chance to give them recognition.
All the best,
Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD

Re: DNA ethnicity

Sarah L Meyer

There are some great Jewish genealogy groups on Face book including one on DNA.  Also the regular DNA groups there have search angels and DNA Detectives who might be able to assist you in your search.  There is also a non-Jewish Polish genealogy group with I think records available on the internet. 

Re: UPDATE Surprising DNA results from Ancestry

Sarah L Meyer

Congratulations on finding your birth father so quickly and making positive contact with the nephew and niece.  I am interested in the rest of your story as it unfolds.

Re: thoughts - opinions

Jeff Marx

There are a number of practical reasons why still-births should be recorded on your family tree.  First, the 1910 U.S. census asked families to indicate how many children the mother had birthed and how many were still living.  If you only knew of two children but the census indicated that there had been another child, no longer living, the fact that you’ve noted the still-born child saves you and future researchers wasted time in hunting down this third, potential relative. Second, still-births can help explain a large gap in birth years between siblings, again saving wasted time in hunting for hypothetical sibling(s) who may not have been recorded.  Third, a still-birth or consecutive still-births may provide a possible answer to the question of why a given couple “didn’t have children.”  Finally, understanding the heartbreak of a still-born birth, even during times when infant mortality was high and “normal,” gives us (just like the sudden death of a husband or wife in a household of young children) a small glimpse into the mostly-hidden personal lives of those who lived long ago.

Jeff Marx

Re: thoughts - opinions

Eva Lawrence

Stillborn children impact on the family. They fill gaps where people
might still be searching for a lost cousin, they tell us about the
life of the of the family and about the mother's health. So I always
keep a record of them. That said, it's not always necessary to include
them in every tree, I even sometimes omit unmarried family members. It
all depends on the context in which you are working..

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.