Re: Given name naming patterns in Latvia, 1800s-1900s #latvia


That's an interesting and thoughtful conjecture, Nancy.  Also the thought about a connection with Prussian Jews is a good one.

Part of my family came from Courland, which was part of Latvia at the time (late 19th/early 20th century). I think I'm right in remembering that my grandmother said that this branch of the family was from Prussia.  Since then I've read that quite a few Courland Jews (as well as Latvian Jews more broadly), immigrated there from East Prussia.  I do know that that branch of the family identified with German culture, and belonged to a Courland-associated synagogue in the U.S. (in St. Louis) in which services were held in German.
Erika Gottfried
Teaneck, New Jersey

MARANOFSKY (Courland)  KIRSCH (Courland)  SCHWAB (possibly Courland)
GROSBERG/GROSSBERG/ GROSBARD (Vilkija, Lithuania, Russian Empire) DAVIDSON/TEVELSON (Dieveniškės aka Divenishok [Yid], , Devenishki [Rus]), in Lithuania, Russian Empire) 

How To Read English Translation of Bivolari Yizkor Book #yizkorbooks

Sally Horn

English Translation of Bivolari Yizkor Book?  The Jewish Gen website indicates that there is a Yizkor book for Bivolari, Romania, entitled 
Ayaratenu Bivolari, or Our Town Bivolari.  It seems to indicated that it has been translated into English.  How do I access the English translation on Jewish Gen?  When I clicked on the link for the book, it did not bring up a copy of the book in English.  That you.  # Romania #Yizkor Books
Sally Horn
McLean, Virginia 

Jewish farm school Eydelman in Minsk. #belarus

Leslie Pyenson MD FACP

Jewish farm school “Eydelman,” founde 1900 in Minsk.
I believe my Grandfather, David Pyenson (Paenson in cyrillic or Paiensohn in yiddish) graduated from this school in Minsk in1904 prior to his arrival in the U.S. in 1905. Where might I find more information, class lists, etc?

Re: KATCHOP-Ukrainian Slavic language #ukraine

Alan Shuchat


Can you give us the a source for this word in one of Bialik's writings in the original language he used? Was it Hebrew or Yiddish?
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

Re: Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania

Marshall Lerner

I can put you in touch with Sorin Goldenberg, a researcher that we used to find birth/death/marriage records for our family in Neamt, Roman & Darabani.  His colleague Luc Radu is very active on the JewishGen blog. Private email me.

ROJL ( ROSA) Barinstein From Podolia Russia #russia

Adrian Koifman

I need help finding information about Rojl (Rosa) Barinstein, born in Podolia, Russia, May 6, 1988. Her parents Etzek (Isaac) Barinstein (1877) and her mother Sure (Sara) Noejovich (1877)

Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general


I also had ancestors, on my father's side, who fled Spain or Portugal for the Netherlands.  Regrettably, however, their next move was to Poland. 

I'd be very interested to learn more about the history of Dutch Jews.

Jewish farm school “Eydelman,” founded in 1900 in Minsk #belarus #general

Leslie Pyenson MD FACP

Ideas where I might find out more information, class lists, etc. I believe my grandfather David Pyenson (Paenson in Cyrillic or Paiensohn in yiddish) graduated from this school in 1904 prior to his arrival in the US in 1905.
Leslie Pyenson, MD FACP

Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Alyssa Freeman

     My grandmother, three of her sisters, and their parents walked from Odessa (now Ukraine) to Rotterdam (family name at the time FAVILYUKIS) around 1920 - a little passed the time you mentioned but probably very similar. They had false papers saying they were from Tiraspol (where my great-grandmother was from - maiden name DIKERMAN), which was in either Bessarabia or Romania at the time and not part of Russia (not quite the USSR yet and not part of Russia at the time, but there was a lot of infighting in Ukraine, at the time, and there were allied troops that had entered into Odessa to try and fight the Bolsheviks on behalf of the Tsar, and Poland was threatening from the west). The papers were very expensive. To the best of my knowledge, they avoided countries that were known to be hostile to Jews and probably took a southern route. It took them about a year. It's my understanding that they had help from HIAS and they sewed up all their money and their silver in their clothes so no one would see it and steal it. I don't know all the details, but I do know my great-grandfather was arrested for murder along the way and was released based solely on the testimony of my grandmother (who was 8 at the time). When they got to Rotterdam, my grandmother and her sisters got sick and ended up in the hospital. 
      I believe my great-grandfather knew English - or enough to get by. He had visited the US once before. They were processed through Ellis Island and my grandfather's brother has been in the US for a while so I think he's the one that came to greet them and helped them get set up in NY. The agent who spoke Russian to them to find out if they could read and write, etc, didn't speak to my grandmother who was small for her age. He thought she was about 6. She got very indignant and told her father, "Tell him I'm not a baby and I've been to school and I know how to read."
Alyssa Freeman
Henrico, VA

Re: Ottoman Jews during WW1 #general


Cercle de Généalogie Juive ( has indexed thousands of pages of documents relating to Ottoman Jews in France during WW1 - those documents are held at the French Archives Diplomatiques. See - access requires membership.


Thierry Samama

Re: Male given name Shira #general #names

Phillip Minden

Shura is a common form of Alexander in Russian, and u merges into i in most of Eastern Yiddish. No connection to the modern name Shira = song, just a coincidence. 

Phillip Minden 

Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Jeanette Hurwitz

Husbands grandfather told a tale of not wanting to go into the army in Poland so he ate a whole bunch of bananas and it distended his stomach so much he looked deformed and they wouldn't take him. I wonder how a poor jew got a bunch of bananas in the early1900's.

Another tale of the same grandfather, Soloman Rofer, is that he stowed away on a ship to come to America. When he didn't have documents at Ellis Island they were going to send him back but he begged them not to. So they said he could stay in the US and would have to go to Canada or Mexico. He asked what the weather was like and chose Mexico.

What we know for sure was his family was murdered by the Nazis and he wouldn't talk about them. 

Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania


My Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother are Abraham Rosenzweig and Rebecca Solomon.  Rebecca's Naturalization Records reflect that they were born in Votkana on May 16, 1850 and December 15, 1860, respectively.  They were married in Votkana in 1876.  Their children are Clara (1876), Joseph (1880), Morris (1882), Benjamin (1886), Ethel (1886) and Charles (1888).  Records show that they lived in Bucharest, Barlad, lasi and possibly Neamt.  Thank you for any help.

Sandy Nadler
Honolulu, Hawaii

IAJGS 2020 Conference Announcement

Chuck Weinstein

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS)
announces its 40th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy will
be a virtual conference for the first time, held Aug. 10-13, 2020.
"Given COVID-19, we are unable to hold our usual in-person conference,
but are excited with the possibilities in continuing to offer our
broad array of presentations and meetings on a virtual platform to our
diverse audiences worldwide, from first-timers to conference veterans,"
said Robinn Magid, conference chair.

Brainstorming and Connectivity will be the focus of four days of live,
streamed sessions on broad topics presented as plenary sessions, panels
and webinars. Meeting rooms will be provided for Special Interest
Groups (SIGs) and Birds-of-a-Feather (BOFs) to help gather our
worldwide audience. The Pre-Recorded Video Archive available to
conference registrants for up to 60 days after the virtual conference
will offer an even wider range of specialized presentations beyond the
scheduled, live sessions.

Early Bird Registration is now open June 21 through July 5 on the
Conference website at .

Conference Chair is Robinn Magid, a retired management consultant from
Berkeley, California, who has 30 years of experience in Jewish
genealogy research. She was also the chair of the 2018 conference in
Warsaw, Poland. Robinn is a frequent speaker at the IAJGS conferences
and various American Jewish Genealogical Societies.

The Conference is hosted by IAJGS, an umbrella organization of more
than 90 Jewish genealogical organizations worldwide. The IAJGS
coordinates and organizes activities such as its annual International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy and provides a unified voice as the
spokesperson on behalf of its members. Ken Bravo of South Euclid,
Ohio, is IAJGS president.

The IAJGS's vision is of a worldwide network of Jewish genealogical
research organizations and partners working together as one coherent,
effective and respected community, enabling people to succeed in
researching Jewish ancestry and heritage. Find the IAJGS at: and like us on Facebook at .

Chuck Weinstein
Communications Chair
40th Annual IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy (and first Virtual Conference)

Re: Harry Chernicoff home town #latvia #courland

Sherri Bobish

Hi Mark,

Might be Ventspils, Latvia.

Alternate names: Ventspils [Latv], Windau [Ger], Vindava [Rus], Vindoi [Yid], Windawa [Pol], Ventspilis [Lith], Vindavi [Est], Wentspils, Vindau

Region: Courland


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland #translation #warsaw #yiddish #usa

Bill Lash

I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

Document is from the Polish Archives. On back of the document it is written "Akt woolzenia nv 102 from 1848 /Leszcz, Abram/ from the bozmieziem region of Ostrow Maz. Some spelling may be incorrect do to transcription errors.

I would like the entire document translated with full name and date. Also confirm if it is a birth certificate and if they have the exact name of the town.
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Bill Lash
Southern California, USA

Re: Male given name Shira #general #names

Sally Bruckheimer

In Polish, nou nd often end in -a in the nominative case. Israel's does not mean son of Israel, it means Izrael. Mal e and female names both end in -a. Israelowicz means son of Israe l.

My tablet seems not to know much today.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton. NJ

Re: Logistics of emigration from Pale of Settlement to America #lithuania #poland

Mark Halpern

Read the "Background" of this part of the JewishGen USA database donated to JewishGen by the Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia. This will answer some of your questions.

Mark Halpern


On 2020-06-19 5:50 pm, elkus@... wrote:

My paternal great-grandparents all came from Suwalki Gubernia, now split between Poland and Lithuania.  I'm interested in reading about how during the 1885-1900 period (a) relatives in the US sent money and tickets to those wanting to come to USA  (b) how they traveled to the ports given that for many Jews, travel was restricted, (c) what documentation was required to cross borders and to board the ship, (d) how easy it was to falsify surnames or change surnames during the process, (e) how they navigated from entry (usually New York) to final destination without speaking English or knowing how things work in the US.  Would greatly appreciate seeing links to articles on these topics. Thanks.


Joel Ives

There are hundreds of people listed on the French genealogical data base for the name “GRAND.” You need to spend some time to see if you can find a match and, may have to get a subscription to view actual documents.


Joel Ives

Fair Lawn, New Jersey USA


Searching:  ZANKEL, Bohorodczany, Austria Hungary

Continuous Residency Requirement #usa #general


In Dec. 1894, an immigramt disembarked in NY, from Russia via Liverpool. Sometime before 1897. he returned to Russia. I don't know how long he was there, but in 1897 he returned, this time "immigrating for the first time" to Boston. He immediately returned to to New York and filed his Declaration of Intention (First Papers) to seek citizenship. In this document, he gave the 1894 immigration date as his first entry, and provided the ship name. My question is why he would say, at the second entry, that this was his first entry to the U.S. My guess is that he may have thought that his length of time out of the U.S. would have negated his first entry date and that the residency requirement clock would be reset.

Does anyone know what was the continuous residency requirement in 1897?

J. E Lipmanson

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