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Re: Father and son with same given name i have come across #general

Marla Cohen
 

Addendum to my last post- I neglected to add that both my brother and his son have the same names in Hebrew . They were named for two different ancestors with the same name!
Marla Cohen
Hartford , Ct.


Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general

Marla Cohen
 

My brother and my grandfather have the same Hebrew name. But they were named for two different ancestors , who coincidentally had the same name .
According to Ashkenazi tradition that can only occur if the said ancestors were dead.
Marla Cohen
Hartford,Ct.


Re: jews in hiding in freezone France #france #holocaust

Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
As I wrote recently on this forum, there is a lot of historical papers concerning Jews' fate around Nice during Shoah.
Unfortunately (nobody is perfect !) most of these documents are in French, as are archives in "Archives départementales des Alpes Maritimes", our administrative county of this area (fond 166).
I attach some pages on "Camp de Rivesaltes" where a lot of rounded up Jews had been sent.
Concerning Jewish Resistance, "Reseau Abadi" had been very active to protect and save children, as was "OSE" and "6eme EIF, Eclaireurs Isarelites de France".
You will find wikipedia pages about them.
Never forget the "Civil Resistance" of French population, 75% of Jewish persons present in France escaped deportation and were saved.

I hope you have some opportunity to read French and I attach some of these documents.
khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund /  Workmen Circle) of France


Re: Looking for Lapes (Lopis, Lapis) Odessa/Ukraine 1880s #ukraine

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi,
 
You can check the All Odessa Database on the Odessa Kehilalinks (kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/odessa).
There are several Lapes and Lapis.
 
Best,
Ariel Parkansky


Re: Double Surname in Belarus Revision List #belarus #general

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russia, every man or women got secondary name from father's first name.  In your case "Shliomovich" is his father first name is Shlioma.  And it's no mater for a man or the women.  When your  great-great grandfather will have a daughter name Malka, she will get full name "Malka Shlimovna, when son Motle, he will get full name Motle Shliomovich.
I was called in Belarus, where was born: Michail Matveevich and my father - Matvey


Re: DORRA Family Descendants , Egypt/Syria #general

peter isert
 

Hi Jacob
my email is 
peterisert@...
I visited some relatives in Haifa I think in the late 1970s someone called Rirtette I think?
i know my grandfather Raphael Dorra died & is buried in Safed
Hope to hear from you soon Jacob
Peter Isert
Sydney
Australia


Re: Looking for MUTCHNIK /MUCZNIK family from Warsaw, Poland #warsaw #holocaust

Vered Dayan
 

Hi JoAnne,
When looking for possible-survivors' descendants or family, there are usually 2 things to do (Apart from what you already did): 1. Enter the Yad-Vashem database and search for POTs - Pages of Testimony - to see perhaps a relative submitted such a form in memory of the people you are looking for, in your case, for a Mutchnik family from Warsaw. If someone did so, you can try to locate them, which is a different story. 2. Join the several Facebook groups dealing with Polish Jewish roots, and post there. There are quite a few, and the more information you give the other members, the higher the chances to find a lead. For example, if your friend knows where her aunt fled to, write it there. If you don't have a Facebook account, ask someone who has to do it for you. The groups I know of:
Israelis of Polish Origin:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/HitachdutPolin/
Polish Roots: https://www.facebook.com/groups/163686244086757/
(Those 2 up there are Israeli, but you can post in English). Also:
Tracing the Tribe - Jewish Genealogy on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tracingthetribe/ 
Polish Jewish Roots: https://www.facebook.com/PolJewishRoots/
Jewish Genealogy Poland: https://www.facebook.com/groups/JewishGenealogyPoland/
Jews from Warsaw: https://www.facebook.com/groups/322719724439038/
Jewish Genealogy Surname Project: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jewishgenealogysurnameproject/
Jewish Ancestry in Poland: https://www.facebook.com/groups/213378245537127/ 
Wide exposure yields better results.
Good luck,
Vered Dayan
Israel







Re: Emden, Lower Saxony #germany

Corinna Woehrl
 

Hello Toby,

this book is an "Ortsfamilienbuch" OFB on the community of Emden near Magdeburg and not Emden in Lower Saxony. It will comprise mostly Christian families. Very often these sorts of books don't even give a hint on a Jewish community. Here is a link to the family names supposedly mentioned in the book:
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Emden_(bei_Haldensleben),_OFB

Especially for Jewish Families of Emden and the region Ostfriesland, I would like to recommend the following book:

Die jüdischen Famiien in Leer und ihre Herkunft Band 1 / Band 2
Wegner, Manfred
Upstalsboom-Gesellschaft für historische Personenforschung und Bevölkerungsgeschichte in Ostfriesland e.V.
Even though it is explicitly about Leer, many families of Emden are included, too. It includes photographs of tombstones and information on sources to information about the people living there.

Regards from Germany,
Corinna



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Re: Looking for relatives named LEVITES #bessarabia #latinamerica

kastamp@...
 

Hi Valentin,
Thanks for responding! You are probably right. My grandfather's name in Hebrew is indeed Yeshayahu. I am wondering why there's no husband listed under the "Ienta" record that I found. I would love to be able to connect information between relatives.
And from what I understood I cannot connect people like a family tree, right?


Trying to locate family for a "foundling" found in Russia in 1942 #russia #dna #holocaust #photographs

Barbara L. Kornblau
 

Fellow Jewishgeners,

I am trying to help find family for a now adult child who was found abandoned in Russia in 1942. His nephew contacted me.

"My name is Alex, I live in Danville, California, my email poloziouk@...


I’m trying to help my uncle Gennady to find his relatives.

My uncle was separated from his family in 1942 when when he was approximately 3 years old. 

The official document provided by the orphanage states that he was found in 1942 sitting on the bench at Belinskogo street 72, Tomsk city, USSR (now Russia), well dressed wearing wool costume, blue coat, mittens, hat and green garnet scarf." He described to me that his clothes were thought to be very formal for a young child, and like nothing no one had ever seen in a child that young. The rest of the story:

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Tomsk city was far from WWII front and was used as evacuation hub, many factories from western parts of USSR were moved to Tomks at that time. There's high chance that he was on one of those evacuation trains and most likely something happened to his parents while they were on the train (trains were regularly bombed by Nazis) or he was separated from them somehow.

He was found sitting on the bench in the park which is about 1.5mi from Tomsk train station.


Gennady does not know his real name and was looking for his family all these years.

He lives in Moscow, Russia.


I helped him to do 23andme DNA testing.


Gennady’s photos https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iJmQoTQuaNuySoKtPSCS4MaucIWCTaHz/view?usp=sharing


Here’s link to a relatives list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_dF9s7TgRmUtZyJq9LU04MM9147T5RQ0DRDlAwMblCc/edit?usp=sharing


If you think you can help, please feel free to contact his nephew, Alex, whose email is above or contact me and I can contact Alex. Thanks

Barbara L. Kornblau
BarbaraLK@...


Re: Father and son with same given name. #general

Steven
 

I want to thank everyone for their answers and opinions on this topic. I guess i should’ve been more specific in the initial post.

Meyer MNUSHKIN was born in Bobroisk in 1903. The birth record listed his father as Meyer MNUSHKIN. His Hebrew name off his headstone is Meyer ben Meyer. In this case I can only assume the father passed before the son was born and the son was named after him.

The other instance isn’t as clear. I found the marriage record for Dawid Ptakewicz from Plonsk, Poland from 1851 on JRI Poland. It listed his age at 32 and his father as Dawid. That is the only info I have about his father.

Thank you,
Steve Buzil

researching:
BUZILA and KILYAN from present day Moldova
GRUBER and FEINGOLD from present day Ukraine
SEIDLER/ZEIDLER, GROSSBARD, BERLIN, WICZYNSKY, PTAKEWICZ, GOODMAN, DOBROSZKA and BROWN/BRAUN from present day Poland.
PORTNOY, GERSHON and OFSAIOF/OVSAIOVICH from present day Lithuania
MNUSHKIN and KOLVARACHIK from present day Belarus
EISENSTEIN and ZALIO from present day Romania


Records in the Lithuanian database #lithuania

Terry Ashton
 

I was wondering if there are detailed B/D/M records available in the Lithuanian database, in the same way as can be found on JRI Poland?  For example, when a record is found through JRI Poland, and placed on VewMate for translation, there are often quite a few details such as time, place, date, witness names, names of newborn child etc. which can be extracted for the researcher. The information on any Lithuanian records I have found in the past, seem to be much sparser than JRI Poland records. Was less information given to/recorded by authorities in Lithuania in earlier times?

Thank you,

Terry Ashton, Australia

PRASHKER: Kalisz/SZUMOWSKI: Gorki, Zdunska Wola, Lomza/WAJNGOT: Poland/WIERZBOWICZ: Gorki, Lomza/GOLDMAN: Blaszki, Poland/SEGAL/SEGALOVICH: Vilnius/HOLTZ: Dvinsk

 

 


Re: Father and son with same given name I have come across #general

Lawrence Weintraub
 

My grandfather Samuel was an immigrant from Russia (modern Ukraine) to Massachusetts. I was directed to a theoretical great grandfather, also Samuel, which I was dismissive of for the obvious reason.  It turns out that when they arrived here,  they became Samuel but they had different Hebrew names so there can be exceptions.
 
Lawrence Weintraub
Old Bridge, NJ 
 


Re: FTJP-Family Tree of the Jewish People #general #courland

Nicole Heymans
 

I uploaded a GedCom update to FTJP in July 2019 and the online data hasn't yet been updated. I understood priority was migrating the website to NextGeneration, so I hope data presently in the queue should appear online in the not-too-distant future.

My mother was Jewish, my father not, so I only post my maternal line to FTJP. I posted all my ancestry to FTDNA and GedMatch when I tested several years ago, and need to refresh these as FTDNA now accepts all-included (up and down) family trees, and I think GedMatch also.

I also have a family tree on MyHeritage, including my husband's family, however as this exceeds 2500 individuals, hence a cost of over €200 pa, I need to check how ceasement of payment would affect availability of the tree if "anything happens to me".

I would not recommend Geni. There are issues with soundness of data. I have never used Geni, so someone else welcome to chime in. I understand entire branches of A's tree can be imported into B's tree without any checks on soundness of data. And unsound data propagates at least as fast on genealogical websites as conspiracy theories on social media. (For the same reason: an answer to a brickwall).

Hope this helps, keep safe,

Nicole Heymans, near Brussels, Belgium

 


Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

suelaine@...
 

Hi: Our names are Sue and Andrew Laine. My husband has a line of Dutch Jews who immigrated to London in the late 19th century. When their cigar business declined, they moved to Brighton, Sussex. The family has spread throughout Sussex and also moved up to Yorkshire. The name of the patriarch was Moses Morris Goldsmith/Mozes Morris Goudsmit (1847-1930). His wife's name was Margaretha  (Kitty) Breslau (1849-1932). They immigrated from Amsterdam to London and then moved to Brighton. Their daughter, Hannah Fanny Goldsmith (1888-1942) married Charles Hallett (a gentile. 1888-1974). They mostly lived in the Brighton area until their senior years. These were Andrew's grandparents. They moved up to Kirkburton, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, to live with their daughter, Lillian Mary Hallett Laine, until their death. Lillian was Andrew's mother. She married Leslie Laine in 1934 and died in 2015. 
Andrew's brother, David, went to Amsterdam to do family research around 2005 and came back with a family line that goes back to the early 1500's. He recognized over 300 family names on the Holocaust Memorial Wall in Amsterdam, many of them dying in Auschwitz. In our research we have found second cousins who died there; many times entire families were lost. We have been trying to add to this line which is our direct line, but are struggling with the European records. I do much of the research now as Andrew has Parkinson's Disease. 
We would like to learn how to use the European records to fill in and extend our line. Working in the same areas and the same time periods with other researchers would help us.. It sounds like forming a group would put us in contact with researchers of similar interests. Please keep us informed as to the progress of this group. Let us know what we can do to help. Thank you.   Sue and Andrew Laine


Re: Searching for my father's family in #galicia #poland

Barbara Algaze
 

You will find lots of information about researching in Berlin from the Jewish Gen Kehila link web page at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/berlin/Home.html

 

Barbara Algaze

Los Angeles, California

 


Double Surname in Belarus Revision List #belarus #general

Steven Usdansky
 

Looking through the Belarus Revision Lists for Siniensky, I was able to find a listing for my great-great grandfather, Feivel (Fayvush in the listing) and his family from dated July, 1874, in Lyubcha. Looks like my great-grandfather and at least one of his sisters were a few years older than they claimed upon entry to the US.  

What's confusing me is the double surnames on the Revision List; the family surname is showing up as "Shliomovich Sinensky." This is the first time I've encountered Shliomovich as part of the surname. It looks like a patronymic, but according to the list, Feivel's father was Iosel, not Shliomo. No father's name is shown for Feivel's wife, Itka. My first thought was perhaps Shliomo was Iosel's father; my second thought was perhaps it was Itka's surname name. However, I'm just guessing with nothing to go on, and thought perhaps someone here might have experience with such names and could advise.


Emden, Lower Saxony #germany

Frank Bond
 

Does anyone know if the following book includes Jewish families?

Bartels, K. (2008). Familienbuch Emden (Landkreis Börde) 1684 bis 1800. Leipzig, Germany: Arbeitsgemeinschaft für mitteldeutsche Familienforschung.

Thank you.
Toby
United States


Re: Early 1900s records from Rosario, Argentina #latinamerica

Barbara Ellman
 

Most people emigrating to South America in the late 19th century & early 20th century did so through the Baron de Hirsch JCA organization to settle in agricultural communities.  The records for these communities are located at the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.  

The files may include the contract signed for the land.  The JCA did census updates on these communities.  These showed when the arrived, often with the ship name.  Names were added showing births, marriages and the disappearance would indicate the death.

Unfortunately,  the archives will not do look ups for you.  There are finding aids on the archives website searchable by surname.  

Barbara Ellman 
Secaucus, NJ USA
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HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Re: Czechoslovakian Jews #belarus

Daniela Torsh
 

Look at the marriage certificate for your grandmother. It ought to have his name and possibly other information that could help.

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