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Newark, New Jersey, Naturalization Records - Success! #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

The last stage in my saga to get my great grandfather (Bernard FRIEDMAN)'s
naturalization records.

I had no luck at the NYC NARA archives and the New Jersey State Archives couldn't
find it either. I posted here and got a ton of great help which included finding
his ship passage records. A couple of weeks ago, I posted about various Newark, NJ
resources and how I had found his declaration of intent to naturalize in 1904 under
the odd name of Bonat Friedman (I knew it was him because it included his address,
which matched other sources).

After making that post, I took another look at the naturalization index NJ had sent
me (the surnames under F-R-D for years 1906-1920 or so). And there I saw a Bonat
Friedman for Oct, 19, 1910. Just a tad over 5 years >from when Bernard's wife and
kids arrived. I filled out a new request form, wrote a new check, sent it off to
NJ, and hoped.

Yesterday they sent me a package. And yes, it is him!

Bonat and Zire Friedman and their 5 children Celia, Louis, Joseph, James, and
Miriam. The last two were born in Newark (Miriam is my grandmother) (one more
child, Henry, was born in 1912).

The document gives birthdates for everyone but Zire and it gives Bonat's and Zire's
cities of birth as Chericoff, Russia. So that settles it; they were born in
Cherikov, Mogilev, Belarus (same place Zira and kids put as last residence on the
ship manifest). Because it only says "Russia" for the 3 oldest children, I don't
know if the family moved to Mglin, Russia/Ukraine or if Bernard's putting it as
his last residence before immigrating was a fluke. Though one might assume that if
the children were born in a different city, that would have been noted.

I was hoping this petition would be one of the ones that lists father's name (or
maybe mother's too) and give me some insight into the next generation up. Alas,
not to be. But I have some interesting leads with the witnesses. First is Abram
SHAPIRO, probably Zire's uncle they all first stayed with. Second is a Harry
FRIEDMAN. I have an occupation and address for both. That's the very first
Friedman other than this immediate family I know about.

All in all, I'm pretty thrilled.

Thanks again to everyone who offered help in making this happen. And to those who
encouraged persistence.

Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, CA

DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA (Kotesova, Slovakia); KRIEGER, GOLDBERGER (Kosice, Slovakia);
DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN (Budapest); DEUTELBAUM (Cleveland; Chicago;
Pittsburgh); KARPATI (Boston); DUBIN (Chudnov, Ukraine); FRIEDMAN, SHAPIRO
(Cherikov, Mogilev, Belarus; Mglin Russia/Ukraine; Newark, NJ) ;NAIMSKY (Warsaw;
Bronx, NY); NITOWITZ, NORWITZ (Lomza, Poland; Washington DC); GOLDSTEIN (Lativa;
Baltimore); SHAVEL, SHAVELLE, SHAVIL (Kanus, Lithuania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Newark, New Jersey, Naturalization Records - Success! #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

The last stage in my saga to get my great grandfather (Bernard FRIEDMAN)'s
naturalization records.

I had no luck at the NYC NARA archives and the New Jersey State Archives couldn't
find it either. I posted here and got a ton of great help which included finding
his ship passage records. A couple of weeks ago, I posted about various Newark, NJ
resources and how I had found his declaration of intent to naturalize in 1904 under
the odd name of Bonat Friedman (I knew it was him because it included his address,
which matched other sources).

After making that post, I took another look at the naturalization index NJ had sent
me (the surnames under F-R-D for years 1906-1920 or so). And there I saw a Bonat
Friedman for Oct, 19, 1910. Just a tad over 5 years >from when Bernard's wife and
kids arrived. I filled out a new request form, wrote a new check, sent it off to
NJ, and hoped.

Yesterday they sent me a package. And yes, it is him!

Bonat and Zire Friedman and their 5 children Celia, Louis, Joseph, James, and
Miriam. The last two were born in Newark (Miriam is my grandmother) (one more
child, Henry, was born in 1912).

The document gives birthdates for everyone but Zire and it gives Bonat's and Zire's
cities of birth as Chericoff, Russia. So that settles it; they were born in
Cherikov, Mogilev, Belarus (same place Zira and kids put as last residence on the
ship manifest). Because it only says "Russia" for the 3 oldest children, I don't
know if the family moved to Mglin, Russia/Ukraine or if Bernard's putting it as
his last residence before immigrating was a fluke. Though one might assume that if
the children were born in a different city, that would have been noted.

I was hoping this petition would be one of the ones that lists father's name (or
maybe mother's too) and give me some insight into the next generation up. Alas,
not to be. But I have some interesting leads with the witnesses. First is Abram
SHAPIRO, probably Zire's uncle they all first stayed with. Second is a Harry
FRIEDMAN. I have an occupation and address for both. That's the very first
Friedman other than this immediate family I know about.

All in all, I'm pretty thrilled.

Thanks again to everyone who offered help in making this happen. And to those who
encouraged persistence.

Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, CA

DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA (Kotesova, Slovakia); KRIEGER, GOLDBERGER (Kosice, Slovakia);
DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN (Budapest); DEUTELBAUM (Cleveland; Chicago;
Pittsburgh); KARPATI (Boston); DUBIN (Chudnov, Ukraine); FRIEDMAN, SHAPIRO
(Cherikov, Mogilev, Belarus; Mglin Russia/Ukraine; Newark, NJ) ;NAIMSKY (Warsaw;
Bronx, NY); NITOWITZ, NORWITZ (Lomza, Poland; Washington DC); GOLDSTEIN (Lativa;
Baltimore); SHAVEL, SHAVELLE, SHAVIL (Kanus, Lithuania)


Great and Grand Nieces -- Who is Who? #general

Helene Kenvin <hekenvin@...>
 

I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) that I am the great-niece of my
grandfather's siblings. But what am I to the siblings of my great-grandfather?
Am I their great-great niece? Their grand niece? Their great-grand niece? Or
some other equally tongue-twisting honorific....

With thanks,
Helene Kenvin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Great and Grand Nieces -- Who is Who? #general

Helene Kenvin <hekenvin@...>
 

I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) that I am the great-niece of my
grandfather's siblings. But what am I to the siblings of my great-grandfather?
Am I their great-great niece? Their grand niece? Their great-grand niece? Or
some other equally tongue-twisting honorific....

With thanks,
Helene Kenvin


Re: DSEWETIZKI - Find an uncommon surname in Russia #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Miriam--Here is a technique that works surprsingly well.
Ask someone whose native language is Russian to spell out the name for you. You can
then type it yourself on Steve Morse's website in Russian and cut and paste it.
You want to go to "Google Russia" to paste it and pull up the maximum amount of
hits in Russian. It is important to use "Google Russia" and not one that defaults
to English or a Romance Language.

There may be more than one way to spell the surname, so you may have to do it for
multiple spellings. I have found hits on my own surname using this technique.
You don't want to do it for a common name unless you have months to spend
researching each hit but for odd names it works surprisingly well. And I have
found hits on my surname I did not find elsewhere.

Best wishes,
Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA

<<Has anyone ever heard of this surname? It might be pronounced 'Jewitski.'
Thirteenyears ago I put this query on Jewishgen. I never got any replies.>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: DSEWETIZKI - Find an uncommon surname in Russia #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Miriam--Here is a technique that works surprsingly well.
Ask someone whose native language is Russian to spell out the name for you. You can
then type it yourself on Steve Morse's website in Russian and cut and paste it.
You want to go to "Google Russia" to paste it and pull up the maximum amount of
hits in Russian. It is important to use "Google Russia" and not one that defaults
to English or a Romance Language.

There may be more than one way to spell the surname, so you may have to do it for
multiple spellings. I have found hits on my own surname using this technique.
You don't want to do it for a common name unless you have months to spend
researching each hit but for odd names it works surprisingly well. And I have
found hits on my surname I did not find elsewhere.

Best wishes,
Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA

<<Has anyone ever heard of this surname? It might be pronounced 'Jewitski.'
Thirteenyears ago I put this query on Jewishgen. I never got any replies.>>


Subject: Re: New York marriage Use Morse;'s One Step "Name Ends With" #general

James
 

Old script S and L often look the same, likewise script H and N, W and M, F and T,
etc. That's why Stephen Morse allows you to use "ends with" in the name search field.

Have you tried that? And also "sounds like"?

James Castellan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Subject: Re: New York marriage Use Morse;'s One Step "Name Ends With" #general

James
 

Old script S and L often look the same, likewise script H and N, W and M, F and T,
etc. That's why Stephen Morse allows you to use "ends with" in the name search field.

Have you tried that? And also "sounds like"?

James Castellan


Re: 23 Jews #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The Early American SIG Digest had an inquiry regarding the names of the 23 Jews
from Recife, Brazil, who first came to the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam which
became the City of New York in 1654. Since May has been designated Jewish
American Heritage Month, I thought it might be appropriate to start off the
month by mentioning this historic group of early Jews.


An interesting link about their family names is found at:
http://nychistory.blogspot.com/2010/08/return-to-establishment-of-shearith.html.
The link also refers to a number of other resources which might be of interest too.

According to the information on the link which was extracted >from Stephen
Birmingham's book "The Grandees", the Sephardic family names were:

Asser Levy
Abraham Israel De Piza (or Dias)
David Israel Faro
Mose Lumbosco
Judith (or Judica) Mercado (or De Mercado or de Mereda)
Ricke (or Rachel) Nunes

There are numerous other references to this topic which can be found online and
this is just one of them.

As I find time during the month of May, I will mention other Jews who settled in
America.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: 23 Jews #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

The Early American SIG Digest had an inquiry regarding the names of the 23 Jews
from Recife, Brazil, who first came to the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam which
became the City of New York in 1654. Since May has been designated Jewish
American Heritage Month, I thought it might be appropriate to start off the
month by mentioning this historic group of early Jews.


An interesting link about their family names is found at:
http://nychistory.blogspot.com/2010/08/return-to-establishment-of-shearith.html.
The link also refers to a number of other resources which might be of interest too.

According to the information on the link which was extracted >from Stephen
Birmingham's book "The Grandees", the Sephardic family names were:

Asser Levy
Abraham Israel De Piza (or Dias)
David Israel Faro
Mose Lumbosco
Judith (or Judica) Mercado (or De Mercado or de Mereda)
Ricke (or Rachel) Nunes

There are numerous other references to this topic which can be found online and
this is just one of them.

As I find time during the month of May, I will mention other Jews who settled in
America.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Unusual name #general

Snillop47@...
 

I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and the
entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry) Goldblatt'.
Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the correct version?

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unusual name #general

Snillop47@...
 

I have come across a man living in South Wales, known in the Census and other
sources as Harry Goldblatt. He was naturalised as a British subject in 1920 and the
entry in the London Gazette gives his name as 'Chlavney (known as Harry) Goldblatt'.
Could that be a mis-spelling of his forename? If so, what is the correct version?

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


Uman #ukraine

Joshua Skarf <jskarf@...>
 

My great-grandparents, Isaac and Libby WEXELMAN, moved to Montreal in
1904 >from the Ukraine. On Isaac's Canadian naturalization papers, it
says that he is >from "Oman Province of Keiff, Russia" which I assume
means Uman.

Recently, I got a copy of the 1940 Dominion of
Canada National Registration record for Libby, and for place it lists
"Omaname" which is pretty similar to Uman. My questions is whether
anyone has an idea as to why they would have tacked on the suffix "ame".

Thanks,

Josh Skarf
researching SHKAROFSKY (Pogrebishche), Wexleman (Uman), Spivak (Tetiev)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Uman #ukraine

Joshua Skarf <jskarf@...>
 

My great-grandparents, Isaac and Libby WEXELMAN, moved to Montreal in
1904 >from the Ukraine. On Isaac's Canadian naturalization papers, it
says that he is >from "Oman Province of Keiff, Russia" which I assume
means Uman.

Recently, I got a copy of the 1940 Dominion of
Canada National Registration record for Libby, and for place it lists
"Omaname" which is pretty similar to Uman. My questions is whether
anyone has an idea as to why they would have tacked on the suffix "ame".

Thanks,

Josh Skarf
researching SHKAROFSKY (Pogrebishche), Wexleman (Uman), Spivak (Tetiev)


How long does it take to get death certificate from NY Dept. of Health ? #general

prayerboy@juno.com <prayerboy@...>
 

I am just curious if anyone has had any recent experience with ordering a death
certificate by mail >from the NY Department of Health. How long did it take for you to
receive the document? Were there any complications, such as being required to provide
more information such as your relationship to the deceased?

Thanks,

Todd Frederick


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How long does it take to get death certificate from NY Dept. of Health ? #general

prayerboy@juno.com <prayerboy@...>
 

I am just curious if anyone has had any recent experience with ordering a death
certificate by mail >from the NY Department of Health. How long did it take for you to
receive the document? Were there any complications, such as being required to provide
more information such as your relationship to the deceased?

Thanks,

Todd Frederick


(USA) Connecticut Bills Will Affect Access To Death Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Following the massacre at Newtown, CT late last year there were many
out-of-state press requests for the death records of the children that were
murdered. The town clerk was incensed by this and was successful in getting
bills introduced that would limit access to death records of minors under
age 18 and another for all death records for 100 years. Until now, the
Connecticut genealogical community did not want out of towners to get
involved as the out of towners were the cause of the concern resulting
in the legislation. We have been advised that the Connecticut genealogical
community would like assistance now. The two bills were passed out of their
respective committees both were substitute bills therefore different bill
numbers than previously known.

Under Connecticuts current statute there is a 100-year waiting period only
for births and fetal deaths-other vital records (marriages and deaths) do
not have a waiting period and anyone may access those records. The bills
under consideration would establish a waiting period for death records.
Connecticut has had a provision on the books for a number of years: Section
7-51a of the general statutes that members of a Connecticut genealogical
society do not have to wait the embargo period for birth or fetal death
records. Both of the current bills amend and or replace Section 7-51a.

When reading the bills: the writing in red in brackets is deleted and the
writing in blue is the new language >from the most recent version of the
bills.

HB 5733 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/FC/2013HB-05733-R000585-FC.htm would
close all death records to everyone for 100 years >from date of issuance
(note not date of death)it appears that the existing genealogical exception
may still be valid. However, It also provides for a summary death record
for those death records under 100 years since date of request the town
registrar may provide only: name, gender, date of death of the decedent,
cause of death and the town in which the death occurred and such person
shall not have access to any other information contained in the death
certificate. The exceptions for this summary death record do not appear to
exempt genealogists >from receiving the summary. If passed out of Committee
on Public Health on a vote of 21-7. There are very few exceptions for those
who would have access.

HB 5421 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/FC/2013HB-05421-R000622-FC.htm would
close the death records of all minors under the age of 18 for six-months
after a death. It would block genealogists access to these records, so no
one except the immediate family, agency officials and funeral directors
would be able to see the full record for six months. It passed out of
Committee on Government Administration and Elections 14-0.

The bills have to be voted upon on the floor of the House. If they pass the
House floor they still have to be heard by the Senate.

If passed by both chambers and signed by the governor they would become
effective October 1, 2013. As they are in conflict, only one bill will
eventually pass if they get through the process. A 100-year embargo on death
records makes it very difficult to do genealogical research. If you would
like to contact the House leadership and let them know your thoughts about
these bills, they may be contacted at:

Speaker of the House, Rep. Brendan Sharkey (D) (88th Assembly District,
Hamden) at J.Brendan.Sharkey@cga.ct.gov
Majority Leader, Rep. Joe Aresimowicz (D) (30th Assembly District, Berlin,
Southington) at Joe.Aresimowicz@cga.ct.gov
Minority Leader, Rep. Lawrence F. Cafero Jr. (R) (142nd Assembly District,
Norwalk, New Canaan) at Lawrence.Cafero@housegop.ct.gov


Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This message is intended to provide information to the genealogical
community about bills which affect genealogical research. It is not intended to
begin a discussion thread.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (USA) Connecticut Bills Will Affect Access To Death Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Following the massacre at Newtown, CT late last year there were many
out-of-state press requests for the death records of the children that were
murdered. The town clerk was incensed by this and was successful in getting
bills introduced that would limit access to death records of minors under
age 18 and another for all death records for 100 years. Until now, the
Connecticut genealogical community did not want out of towners to get
involved as the out of towners were the cause of the concern resulting
in the legislation. We have been advised that the Connecticut genealogical
community would like assistance now. The two bills were passed out of their
respective committees both were substitute bills therefore different bill
numbers than previously known.

Under Connecticuts current statute there is a 100-year waiting period only
for births and fetal deaths-other vital records (marriages and deaths) do
not have a waiting period and anyone may access those records. The bills
under consideration would establish a waiting period for death records.
Connecticut has had a provision on the books for a number of years: Section
7-51a of the general statutes that members of a Connecticut genealogical
society do not have to wait the embargo period for birth or fetal death
records. Both of the current bills amend and or replace Section 7-51a.

When reading the bills: the writing in red in brackets is deleted and the
writing in blue is the new language >from the most recent version of the
bills.

HB 5733 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/FC/2013HB-05733-R000585-FC.htm would
close all death records to everyone for 100 years >from date of issuance
(note not date of death)it appears that the existing genealogical exception
may still be valid. However, It also provides for a summary death record
for those death records under 100 years since date of request the town
registrar may provide only: name, gender, date of death of the decedent,
cause of death and the town in which the death occurred and such person
shall not have access to any other information contained in the death
certificate. The exceptions for this summary death record do not appear to
exempt genealogists >from receiving the summary. If passed out of Committee
on Public Health on a vote of 21-7. There are very few exceptions for those
who would have access.

HB 5421 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/FC/2013HB-05421-R000622-FC.htm would
close the death records of all minors under the age of 18 for six-months
after a death. It would block genealogists access to these records, so no
one except the immediate family, agency officials and funeral directors
would be able to see the full record for six months. It passed out of
Committee on Government Administration and Elections 14-0.

The bills have to be voted upon on the floor of the House. If they pass the
House floor they still have to be heard by the Senate.

If passed by both chambers and signed by the governor they would become
effective October 1, 2013. As they are in conflict, only one bill will
eventually pass if they get through the process. A 100-year embargo on death
records makes it very difficult to do genealogical research. If you would
like to contact the House leadership and let them know your thoughts about
these bills, they may be contacted at:

Speaker of the House, Rep. Brendan Sharkey (D) (88th Assembly District,
Hamden) at J.Brendan.Sharkey@cga.ct.gov
Majority Leader, Rep. Joe Aresimowicz (D) (30th Assembly District, Berlin,
Southington) at Joe.Aresimowicz@cga.ct.gov
Minority Leader, Rep. Lawrence F. Cafero Jr. (R) (142nd Assembly District,
Norwalk, New Canaan) at Lawrence.Cafero@housegop.ct.gov


Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: This message is intended to provide information to the genealogical
community about bills which affect genealogical research. It is not intended to
begin a discussion thread.


Honoring JewishGen's Volunteers #unitedkingdom

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Dear Friends,

On June 2, we will be honoring Karen Franklin, Gary Mokotoff, and
Lance Ackerfeld, for their leadership and dedication to JewishGen.

After working with each of these individuals for years, it gives
me great pleasure to see that they will get just a small measure
of the recognition they deserve.

Please join me in honoring them and participate in JewishGen's
Spring Brunch, which be held in New York on June 2. We will
also publish a tribute journal, and I invite you to place an ad.

You can register for the brunch and/or place an ad by calling
646-437-4326, or by visiting http://www.JewishGen.org/Event

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Honoring JewishGen's Volunteers #unitedkingdom

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Dear Friends,

On June 2, we will be honoring Karen Franklin, Gary Mokotoff, and
Lance Ackerfeld, for their leadership and dedication to JewishGen.

After working with each of these individuals for years, it gives
me great pleasure to see that they will get just a small measure
of the recognition they deserve.

Please join me in honoring them and participate in JewishGen's
Spring Brunch, which be held in New York on June 2. We will
also publish a tribute journal, and I invite you to place an ad.

You can register for the brunch and/or place an ad by calling
646-437-4326, or by visiting http://www.JewishGen.org/Event

Thank you in advance for your consideration.

Warren Blatt
Managing Director, JewishGen

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