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FW: Schedule for release of further Czech registers #general

Naomi Leon <nimleon@...>
 

Hi Genners

I've been making use of the freshly released Jewish registers available
through the incredible efforts of Lenka Matusikova. I would like to
access a birth record >from Medlov (Kromeriz) in 1847 and one >from Uhersky
Brod too. Unfortunately the available records don't seem to cover these
dates. Does this mean that the records no longer exist, or that they
simply haven't been released yet?

Before contacting Dr. Matusikova, I just wanted to check that I haven't
missed any updates about how and when future data may be released.

Thanks,

Naomi Leon
FRISCH, FUCHS - Medlov, Uhersky Brod, Vizovice, Kunstat


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FW: Schedule for release of further Czech registers #general

Naomi Leon <nimleon@...>
 

Hi Genners

I've been making use of the freshly released Jewish registers available
through the incredible efforts of Lenka Matusikova. I would like to
access a birth record >from Medlov (Kromeriz) in 1847 and one >from Uhersky
Brod too. Unfortunately the available records don't seem to cover these
dates. Does this mean that the records no longer exist, or that they
simply haven't been released yet?

Before contacting Dr. Matusikova, I just wanted to check that I haven't
missed any updates about how and when future data may be released.

Thanks,

Naomi Leon
FRISCH, FUCHS - Medlov, Uhersky Brod, Vizovice, Kunstat


Re: Latvia, Lithuania, Memel 19th century photos - on ViewMate #general

Felicity Bartak
 

From: "Bea Bowie" <ibbowie@...> wrote
To put that question in another way - would Julius Gessau have travelled
across borders to NW Lithuania and/or Memelland in the course of his
photography? If he was unlikely to have travelled across borders then,
maybe, I have the possibility that the Yudelsons crossed borders, perhaps
because of pogroms or related in some way to the fact that son Jacob Kirsner
(Yankel Yudelson, I believe) and two children Martha and Elias Kirsner were
in Memel about the time of the death of Jacob's first wife about 1885).
In the late 19th century, both Latvia and Lithuania belonged to the
Russian Empire, so crossing the border would not have been much of a
problem. My grandfather and his family lived in Druya, Lithuania, on
the river Dvinsk which was a natural border between the 2 countries.
They regularly visited the market in Daugavpils, Latvia. My grandfather
met his future wife in Daugavpils on one such occasion. I know that she
visited his family in Druya prior them migrating to Palestine. I hope
this helps with your query.

Felicity Bartak
Melbourne
Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Latvia, Lithuania, Memel 19th century photos - on ViewMate #general

Felicity Bartak
 

From: "Bea Bowie" <ibbowie@...> wrote
To put that question in another way - would Julius Gessau have travelled
across borders to NW Lithuania and/or Memelland in the course of his
photography? If he was unlikely to have travelled across borders then,
maybe, I have the possibility that the Yudelsons crossed borders, perhaps
because of pogroms or related in some way to the fact that son Jacob Kirsner
(Yankel Yudelson, I believe) and two children Martha and Elias Kirsner were
in Memel about the time of the death of Jacob's first wife about 1885).
In the late 19th century, both Latvia and Lithuania belonged to the
Russian Empire, so crossing the border would not have been much of a
problem. My grandfather and his family lived in Druya, Lithuania, on
the river Dvinsk which was a natural border between the 2 countries.
They regularly visited the market in Daugavpils, Latvia. My grandfather
met his future wife in Daugavpils on one such occasion. I know that she
visited his family in Druya prior them migrating to Palestine. I hope
this helps with your query.

Felicity Bartak
Melbourne
Australia


Re: Locating wills #general

Jack Schlezinger <samadeus@...>
 

Hello,

Last week I have posted a here a message about Shlomo Zalman BRAITSTAIN
(appears in 1940 census as Salomon Braitstain). I have recieved >from some
of you invaluable information (special thanks to Barbara Zimmer and
Sherribob! they are ruly amazing people..)

"With the food comes the appetite", so after I received many info about
his life in the USA, I'm now trying to push further in order to find:

1) Some records and info about his life in Poland and in Eretz Isroel
(dates and names are attached once again at the end of this email)

2) one of his living descendants. Sherribob advised me that one way to
go for this is to find wills (probate records.) If a will was written
it may list names of children. Since I live in France, this database
is not accessible for me, so if one of you plane to go there I would
much appreciate if you contact me.

Here are the names I would be interested to find if they left wills:

*Salomon (or solomon or solomon z.) BRAITSTAIN. (passed away around
1950 in Detroit, Michigan)

*his wife Sara SEGAL (she was alive at 1955 at the age of 80, but I
don't known when she passed away)

*His stepsons Jonas SEGAL (Passed on 1990 in Oak Park, Michigan) and
Fred SEGAL (passed on in 1976 in Oak Park, Michigan.)

Oak Park is in Oakland County, Michigan.

This is the URL for Oakland County Probate Court:
http://www.oakgov.com/probate/

Thank you any help, and best wishes,

Jack Schlezinger

I am attaching once again a short biography, and know dates and dates,
that I have sent last week:

I am trying to find info about a Jewish man who lived in Detroit, USA,
between 1930-1950. for some strange reason, he does not appear in any
records, such a Census or burial indexes. the only documents i have
managed to find are 3 boarder crossing records with some info about
his past. So i was thinking to share with you the info have about him,
and to ask for your help in finding some shred of info about his life
in the USA.

Shlomo Zalman Briitstein (possible polish transliteration: Szlama
brejtszajn, breitstein) was born in Laskarzew, Poland, in November
1886, son of Ezra Yosef, who was the son of Yechiel, both Hasidic \
devoted jews. He married Tema, daughter of Rabbi Pinchas Zukerman, and
in 1907 was born his eldest son, Joseph Breitstein. Shlomo wrote a
book named Sichot chayim, and at the end of 1925 he moved to Israel
with his two daughters: Bluma (1916; married to Lederman) and Menucha
(1910; Grossman). His eldest son, Yosef, was probably 'caught up' by
communism ideas, and moved to Israel only in the late '50s. Joseph
participated in the Yizkor book of Parysow, and probably had quite a
lot of information about the family, but I can not find information
about his place of residence in the country or about his family (if
there is any).

In 1925-6 shlomo married in Jerusalem with Pesia Rosenfeld. He was one
of the founders of the first branch of Poaley Agudat Israel (an
orthodox workers union), and two or three years later, shortly after
the birth of my grandfather, Abraham Mordechai Briitstein, in 1927, he
left to the United States (on the border crossing record attached here
it is written that before that he resided for a while in Canada),
where he lived in Detroit with his third wife Tante Siegel (or Sigal)
until his death in 1950.

Most of the information is based mainly on family testimonies rather
than documents or images, and I'm trying to find my own documents and
testimony about the stations of his life.

Thanks a lot for any help.

MODERATOR NOTE: To avoid duplication of effort, please contact Jack before
heading to the court.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Locating wills #general

Jack Schlezinger <samadeus@...>
 

Hello,

Last week I have posted a here a message about Shlomo Zalman BRAITSTAIN
(appears in 1940 census as Salomon Braitstain). I have recieved >from some
of you invaluable information (special thanks to Barbara Zimmer and
Sherribob! they are ruly amazing people..)

"With the food comes the appetite", so after I received many info about
his life in the USA, I'm now trying to push further in order to find:

1) Some records and info about his life in Poland and in Eretz Isroel
(dates and names are attached once again at the end of this email)

2) one of his living descendants. Sherribob advised me that one way to
go for this is to find wills (probate records.) If a will was written
it may list names of children. Since I live in France, this database
is not accessible for me, so if one of you plane to go there I would
much appreciate if you contact me.

Here are the names I would be interested to find if they left wills:

*Salomon (or solomon or solomon z.) BRAITSTAIN. (passed away around
1950 in Detroit, Michigan)

*his wife Sara SEGAL (she was alive at 1955 at the age of 80, but I
don't known when she passed away)

*His stepsons Jonas SEGAL (Passed on 1990 in Oak Park, Michigan) and
Fred SEGAL (passed on in 1976 in Oak Park, Michigan.)

Oak Park is in Oakland County, Michigan.

This is the URL for Oakland County Probate Court:
http://www.oakgov.com/probate/

Thank you any help, and best wishes,

Jack Schlezinger

I am attaching once again a short biography, and know dates and dates,
that I have sent last week:

I am trying to find info about a Jewish man who lived in Detroit, USA,
between 1930-1950. for some strange reason, he does not appear in any
records, such a Census or burial indexes. the only documents i have
managed to find are 3 boarder crossing records with some info about
his past. So i was thinking to share with you the info have about him,
and to ask for your help in finding some shred of info about his life
in the USA.

Shlomo Zalman Briitstein (possible polish transliteration: Szlama
brejtszajn, breitstein) was born in Laskarzew, Poland, in November
1886, son of Ezra Yosef, who was the son of Yechiel, both Hasidic \
devoted jews. He married Tema, daughter of Rabbi Pinchas Zukerman, and
in 1907 was born his eldest son, Joseph Breitstein. Shlomo wrote a
book named Sichot chayim, and at the end of 1925 he moved to Israel
with his two daughters: Bluma (1916; married to Lederman) and Menucha
(1910; Grossman). His eldest son, Yosef, was probably 'caught up' by
communism ideas, and moved to Israel only in the late '50s. Joseph
participated in the Yizkor book of Parysow, and probably had quite a
lot of information about the family, but I can not find information
about his place of residence in the country or about his family (if
there is any).

In 1925-6 shlomo married in Jerusalem with Pesia Rosenfeld. He was one
of the founders of the first branch of Poaley Agudat Israel (an
orthodox workers union), and two or three years later, shortly after
the birth of my grandfather, Abraham Mordechai Briitstein, in 1927, he
left to the United States (on the border crossing record attached here
it is written that before that he resided for a while in Canada),
where he lived in Detroit with his third wife Tante Siegel (or Sigal)
until his death in 1950.

Most of the information is based mainly on family testimonies rather
than documents or images, and I'm trying to find my own documents and
testimony about the stations of his life.

Thanks a lot for any help.

MODERATOR NOTE: To avoid duplication of effort, please contact Jack before
heading to the court.


Re: Searching for documents - Patent Applications #general

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I was a patent examiner for 4 years. I saw that your question about the
length of patents was not answered. Currently, a patent is valid for 20
years >from the data of filing. It used to be 17 years >from the date of issue.

Patent applications must now be published, I believe, after 18 months >from
the filing date, whether or not it is ever issued. I was an examiner >from
1992 to 1996 and worked for the USPTO (US Patent and Trademark Office for a
total of nearly 14 years. Prior to the requirement that patent applications
be published, patent applications were kept confidential whether or not
they were ever issued. Removal of confidentiality only applied in certain
circumstances. I don't know if this was the policy when your relatives got
into their dispute.

As to a patent application's or patent's utility in genealogy, a patent
application is useless in its confidentiality period. A published patent
application or issued patent is a wealth of information. It provides the
names of all individuals considered to have contributed sufficiently enough
to the patent and its invention to be considered inventors. It also
contains the name of the person or company to whom the invention has been
assigned, so you might know for whom your relatives worked or to whom they
sold their invention and when this event occurred. It also tells you in
what city and state or foreign country your relative lived at the time of
filing the application. Hope this helps.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

On 14/07/2012, at 03:24, Jan Fine <janrandyfine@...> wrote:
Can anyone shed light on patent applications - specifically, are there
searchable records, how far back do these records go, and how long is
the period under which a patent is protected? Does it make sense to
anyone else that a patent application might actually be beneficial to
someone doing family genealogy?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching for documents - Patent Applications #general

David Schreiber
 

Hi,

I was a patent examiner for 4 years. I saw that your question about the
length of patents was not answered. Currently, a patent is valid for 20
years >from the data of filing. It used to be 17 years >from the date of issue.

Patent applications must now be published, I believe, after 18 months >from
the filing date, whether or not it is ever issued. I was an examiner >from
1992 to 1996 and worked for the USPTO (US Patent and Trademark Office for a
total of nearly 14 years. Prior to the requirement that patent applications
be published, patent applications were kept confidential whether or not
they were ever issued. Removal of confidentiality only applied in certain
circumstances. I don't know if this was the policy when your relatives got
into their dispute.

As to a patent application's or patent's utility in genealogy, a patent
application is useless in its confidentiality period. A published patent
application or issued patent is a wealth of information. It provides the
names of all individuals considered to have contributed sufficiently enough
to the patent and its invention to be considered inventors. It also
contains the name of the person or company to whom the invention has been
assigned, so you might know for whom your relatives worked or to whom they
sold their invention and when this event occurred. It also tells you in
what city and state or foreign country your relative lived at the time of
filing the application. Hope this helps.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

On 14/07/2012, at 03:24, Jan Fine <janrandyfine@...> wrote:
Can anyone shed light on patent applications - specifically, are there
searchable records, how far back do these records go, and how long is
the period under which a patent is protected? Does it make sense to
anyone else that a patent application might actually be beneficial to
someone doing family genealogy?


IAJGS Conference Schedule Change #general

Nolan Altman
 

IAJGS CONFERENCE SCHEDULE CHANGE:
Nolan Altman's presentation, "JewishGen's JOWBR Database and the Importance
of Burial Records" will be presented at 9:00 AM in Pont des Arts B & C
instead of at 4:00 PM in the computer lab. There is no charge for this
presentation.

Nolan Altman

MODERATOR NOTE: Nolan's talk is scheduled for July 17th.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Conference Schedule Change #general

Nolan Altman
 

IAJGS CONFERENCE SCHEDULE CHANGE:
Nolan Altman's presentation, "JewishGen's JOWBR Database and the Importance
of Burial Records" will be presented at 9:00 AM in Pont des Arts B & C
instead of at 4:00 PM in the computer lab. There is no charge for this
presentation.

Nolan Altman

MODERATOR NOTE: Nolan's talk is scheduled for July 17th.


Re: Question: JOWBR- Bayside Cemetery, Ozone Park, NY- Conflicting Info #general

Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Thanks to all who replied. I have thanked everyone personally.

Consensus is that cemetery is wrong on Rebecca SIMON's death cert # 38517 &
she is buried in Bayside Cemetery.

Paul Auerbach was able to locate cert # 33302 on Italiangen as belonging to
Thomas Cunningham age 1, died 7 Oct 1894, so verifies that # is incorrect on
JOWBR.

Ira Leviton sent link for 3 July 2012 article about cleaning up Bayside
Cemetery.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/features/new-york-minute/cemeterys-righteous-gentile

Ira asked if I had the burial info of Barnet SIMON in Acacia Cemetery.
Cemetery office had given me location in Old True Friends Section, Gate 9,
Grave 130 prior to our visit. Ira noticed that this society is not listed on
the IAJGS Jewish Cemetery Project list. My mother & her cousin both had
childhood recollections of their mothers & aunts attending True Friends
meetings.

Alison Schlyen sent List of Synagogues of Lower East Side-
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-syn-manhattan-les.htm
and http://baysidecemeterylitigation.com with link to cemetery map.

This has been very helpful & is greatly appreciated.

Ellen Barbieri- Researcher # 8682
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Question: JOWBR- Bayside Cemetery, Ozone Park, NY- Conflicting Info #general

Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Thanks to all who replied. I have thanked everyone personally.

Consensus is that cemetery is wrong on Rebecca SIMON's death cert # 38517 &
she is buried in Bayside Cemetery.

Paul Auerbach was able to locate cert # 33302 on Italiangen as belonging to
Thomas Cunningham age 1, died 7 Oct 1894, so verifies that # is incorrect on
JOWBR.

Ira Leviton sent link for 3 July 2012 article about cleaning up Bayside
Cemetery.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/features/new-york-minute/cemeterys-righteous-gentile

Ira asked if I had the burial info of Barnet SIMON in Acacia Cemetery.
Cemetery office had given me location in Old True Friends Section, Gate 9,
Grave 130 prior to our visit. Ira noticed that this society is not listed on
the IAJGS Jewish Cemetery Project list. My mother & her cousin both had
childhood recollections of their mothers & aunts attending True Friends
meetings.

Alison Schlyen sent List of Synagogues of Lower East Side-
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-syn-manhattan-les.htm
and http://baysidecemeterylitigation.com with link to cemetery map.

This has been very helpful & is greatly appreciated.

Ellen Barbieri- Researcher # 8682
San Diego, CA


Prince Otto 1811 Courland Residence document #latvia

Ben Forman
 

Hi Genners

I recently uploaded to 'Viewmate an excerpt >from an 1811 residence
list for Hazenpoth which includes a reference to one of my ancestors,
one line reads:

"not previously registered, moved to here recently >from Prince Otto" a
translation of the German

"ist nirgends verzeichnet gewesen und vom Fürsten Otto kürzlich
eingezogen"

Is anyone able to shed any light on what this might mean?

Thanks

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK,(currently exiled in London)

searching: BENSON: Hasenpoth/Courland;
BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai;
CAHN/CAHEN/WOLF: Zuendorf/Bruhl/Lechenich/Ahrweiler;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk;
SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;


Latvia SIG #Latvia Prince Otto 1811 Courland Residence document #latvia

Ben Forman
 

Hi Genners

I recently uploaded to 'Viewmate an excerpt >from an 1811 residence
list for Hazenpoth which includes a reference to one of my ancestors,
one line reads:

"not previously registered, moved to here recently >from Prince Otto" a
translation of the German

"ist nirgends verzeichnet gewesen und vom Fürsten Otto kürzlich
eingezogen"

Is anyone able to shed any light on what this might mean?

Thanks

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK,(currently exiled in London)

searching: BENSON: Hasenpoth/Courland;
BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai;
CAHN/CAHEN/WOLF: Zuendorf/Bruhl/Lechenich/Ahrweiler;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk;
SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;


Viewmate #23604 Is this Meir SARON? #latvia

Jo Ann Goldwater
 

I have just posted a photo on Viewmate #23604 that I believe is Meir
SARON of Zagare. The photo was sent to me a few years ago and it had
"Mayor of Zagare" written on the back. I just came across some
information that leads me to believe it is Meir Saron, who lived >from
ca 1810 to 1885. The Sarons are related to me through my grandmother,
Bertha Kahn Goldwater.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM23604

If there are any Sarons out there, please have a look and confirm this
for me. Over the years I have found wonderful people out there who are
very helpful. Thanks to everyone,

Jo Ann Goldwater
Montreal Canada

Researching GOLDWASSER, Akmene, Zagare, Riga, KAGAN Zagare, Riga, Moscow,
ABRAHAMS, Zagare Riga, SARON Zagare, Riga, BASKIN, Zagare, Riga

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Viewmate #23604 Is this Meir SARON? #latvia

Jo Ann Goldwater
 

I have just posted a photo on Viewmate #23604 that I believe is Meir
SARON of Zagare. The photo was sent to me a few years ago and it had
"Mayor of Zagare" written on the back. I just came across some
information that leads me to believe it is Meir Saron, who lived >from
ca 1810 to 1885. The Sarons are related to me through my grandmother,
Bertha Kahn Goldwater.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM23604

If there are any Sarons out there, please have a look and confirm this
for me. Over the years I have found wonderful people out there who are
very helpful. Thanks to everyone,

Jo Ann Goldwater
Montreal Canada

Researching GOLDWASSER, Akmene, Zagare, Riga, KAGAN Zagare, Riga, Moscow,
ABRAHAMS, Zagare Riga, SARON Zagare, Riga, BASKIN, Zagare, Riga

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.


Wife of R' Yitzchak SPITZKOPF, AB"D of Krakow #rabbinic

isak@bm.technion.ac.il
 

Dear Genners
R' Yitzchak SPITZKOPF, father of Vitta who was married to R' Yechezkel
Landau of Opatow, was AB"D of several towns in Poland, last position in
Krakow. Several sources claim that R' Yitzchak Spitzkopf married the
daughter of R' Nachum of Zusmir (Sandomierz). The question is, which
Nachum?
In the book "The unbroken chain" page 730 the date of death of R'
Yitzchk Spitzkopf is given as 1783. In page 459 the date given is 1683.
In the same book Nachum of Zusmir is said to die 25 years old, leaving a
pregnanat wife who bore him a son. This Nachum of Zusmir could by no
means be the father-in-law of R' Yitzchak Spizkopf as as he lived in the
middle of the 18th century, the same period as the great grandchildren of
R' Yitzchak Spitzkopf. There was most probably another R' Nachum of
Zusmir, reported in "Letoldot Hakehilot BePolin" (R' Tzvi Hirsch Hurvitz,
AB"D of Dresden) in page 487.
Does anybody of you have additional information and/or reliable sources to
explain the above?
Thank you
Isak Gath, Haifa


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Wife of R' Yitzchak SPITZKOPF, AB"D of Krakow #rabbinic

isak@bm.technion.ac.il
 

Dear Genners
R' Yitzchak SPITZKOPF, father of Vitta who was married to R' Yechezkel
Landau of Opatow, was AB"D of several towns in Poland, last position in
Krakow. Several sources claim that R' Yitzchak Spitzkopf married the
daughter of R' Nachum of Zusmir (Sandomierz). The question is, which
Nachum?
In the book "The unbroken chain" page 730 the date of death of R'
Yitzchk Spitzkopf is given as 1783. In page 459 the date given is 1683.
In the same book Nachum of Zusmir is said to die 25 years old, leaving a
pregnanat wife who bore him a son. This Nachum of Zusmir could by no
means be the father-in-law of R' Yitzchak Spizkopf as as he lived in the
middle of the 18th century, the same period as the great grandchildren of
R' Yitzchak Spitzkopf. There was most probably another R' Nachum of
Zusmir, reported in "Letoldot Hakehilot BePolin" (R' Tzvi Hirsch Hurvitz,
AB"D of Dresden) in page 487.
Does anybody of you have additional information and/or reliable sources to
explain the above?
Thank you
Isak Gath, Haifa


Wife or wives of R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau of Opatow #rabbinic

isak@bm.technion.ac.il
 

Dear Genners
R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau (Hirsch Vitts of Opatow 1640-1718) was married,
according to "Letoldot Hakehilot Bepolin" of R' Tvi Hirsch Hurvitz of
Dresden (and according to many other sources) to Sara Oettingen
(Ittinga, in old Jewish spelling). Sara was the daughter of the
physician Dr. Naftali Hirtz Oettingen of Przemisl. However, in the Web
site of the commercial genealogy site "Geni", another wife, Chaia, is
mentioned. I have checked around and could not verify by any reliable
source that R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau had two wives. However, in a family
tree diagram in the book "The unbroken chain", this chaia is drawn as a
daughter of Dr. Naftali Hirtz Oettingen. Is this the source of the
misleading information?
Thank you all
Isak Gath, Haifa


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Wife or wives of R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau of Opatow #rabbinic

isak@bm.technion.ac.il
 

Dear Genners
R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau (Hirsch Vitts of Opatow 1640-1718) was married,
according to "Letoldot Hakehilot Bepolin" of R' Tvi Hirsch Hurvitz of
Dresden (and according to many other sources) to Sara Oettingen
(Ittinga, in old Jewish spelling). Sara was the daughter of the
physician Dr. Naftali Hirtz Oettingen of Przemisl. However, in the Web
site of the commercial genealogy site "Geni", another wife, Chaia, is
mentioned. I have checked around and could not verify by any reliable
source that R' Tzvi Hirsch Landau had two wives. However, in a family
tree diagram in the book "The unbroken chain", this chaia is drawn as a
daughter of Dr. Naftali Hirtz Oettingen. Is this the source of the
misleading information?
Thank you all
Isak Gath, Haifa