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Phyllis Kramer z'l #poland

Nancy Holden
 

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


JRI Poland #Poland Phyllis Kramer z'l #poland

Nancy Holden
 

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #romania

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Romania SIG #Romania Phyllis Kramer z'l #romania

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Zvi family originally Berdyczewski #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Tom Michael Ziv and his
brother Daniel Harry Zvi, sons of Yaron Ziv who was killed in a small
plane accident in May 2006.
The family traced back to the Rosenblatt and Horowitz rabbinical
families. Yaron was married three times.
neil rosenstein

MODERATOR: Private responses only please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zvi family originally Berdyczewski #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family of Tom Michael Ziv and his
brother Daniel Harry Zvi, sons of Yaron Ziv who was killed in a small
plane accident in May 2006.
The family traced back to the Rosenblatt and Horowitz rabbinical
families. Yaron was married three times.
neil rosenstein

MODERATOR: Private responses only please


Phyllis Kramer z"l #galicia

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGenners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer just
passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked
with her and to all her students.

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Phyllis Kramer z"l #galicia

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGenners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer just
passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked
with her and to all her students.

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #bessarabia

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Phyllis Kramer z'l #bessarabia

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Cemetery Projects: What we translate from inscription on the monumnet and what we do not... #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,

More about the cemetery projects, and I want to talk about what is
translated and entered into JOWBR and what information we do not translate.

- Of course we are translating everything about the person buried in that
grave: Names, Date of birth, Date of death, sometimes only Hebrew dates.
Occasionally we also have on the grave profession of the person or some
honorary degree or military rank.

- Also on many graves in Ukraine, Moldova you can find pictures or
engravings of the deceased people. Actually, I found pictures at the
monuments at Cleveland, OH cemeteries, and also in Israel in cemeteries near
Haifa.

- Many writings for people died in 1950-1970s in cemeteries in Eastern
Europe have other names listed. It is mostly in memory of family members who
died on fronts of the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) or during evacuation or in
concentration camps. There might be a name of a son killed or missing in action in 1941 on a
front of a war or ten people >from one family killed by hands of fascists. I
saw also names of people who perished in the battles for Stalingrad, or
died in Tashkent during evacuation. I am now working on a sector for the
Kishinev Jewish cemetery, doing the "second" reading, and sector has about
3,000 burial sites. On these graves I think there are approximately 5,000
names listed. We are adding these names of perished in the war in the
Comments, and these names also are searchable and all these names will
be displayed in JOWBR.

I strongly believe that this is our duty to put every name we can read to our
JOWBR database regardless if person was buried in that cemetery or died
somewhere else.

I want to give you an example >from the grave of my grandmother Elka
Shabsovna Kogan (z''l) (1902-1969), see image at
https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/files/cemetery/Kishinev/MyGrands.jpg

You see 3 other names on her monument:

- Kogan Meer Peysakhovich, 1894 - 1944. It is Elka's husband, my grandfather.
He was conscripted to the labor army to work in Siberia in Kemerovo oblast in a
coal mine, and was killed by a wagon.

- Spivak Fanya Khaimovna, 1896-1941. This is my other grandmother, who
died in a shtetl Kaushany, Moldova before the war started on the territory of
Soviet Union. As my parents told me, the monument for her grave arrived a few
days before they had to evacuate to the East, and after the war everything was
lost, the cemetery was almost destroyed by local, and later completely
disappeared, and now it is a potato field with a number of houses build on top..

- Tismenetskiy David Mikhaylovich, my distant relative, died during the war.

There is no monument for either of them, and their names in Kishinev cemetery
is the reminder of their lives.

Now I should tell you what we are not translating. On many monuments you can
find information of a surviving family. It might be written that wife and son are
mourning the loss (that is valuable genealogical information), or son and
grandson will remember the deceased, or even you see a name of a person who
put in the monument, like daughter Lisa is mourning the great loss of her father.
We are not translating that information, first because these people were live at
the time of the burial, and I felt that it may not be appropriate to list such names
in the Burial registry. Also in some cases, surviving person could write a poem
on a stone, or a letter, and that is difficult to translate. Finally, it is a lot of
additional work for translators, and we have a number of cemeteries we did not
index at all.

Please let me know if you have any questions, suggestions.

all the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Cemetery Projects: What we translate from inscription on the monumnet and what we do not... #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello everybody,

More about the cemetery projects, and I want to talk about what is
translated and entered into JOWBR and what information we do not translate.

- Of course we are translating everything about the person buried in that
grave: Names, Date of birth, Date of death, sometimes only Hebrew dates.
Occasionally we also have on the grave profession of the person or some
honorary degree or military rank.

- Also on many graves in Ukraine, Moldova you can find pictures or
engravings of the deceased people. Actually, I found pictures at the
monuments at Cleveland, OH cemeteries, and also in Israel in cemeteries near
Haifa.

- Many writings for people died in 1950-1970s in cemeteries in Eastern
Europe have other names listed. It is mostly in memory of family members who
died on fronts of the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) or during evacuation or in
concentration camps. There might be a name of a son killed or missing in action in 1941 on a
front of a war or ten people >from one family killed by hands of fascists. I
saw also names of people who perished in the battles for Stalingrad, or
died in Tashkent during evacuation. I am now working on a sector for the
Kishinev Jewish cemetery, doing the "second" reading, and sector has about
3,000 burial sites. On these graves I think there are approximately 5,000
names listed. We are adding these names of perished in the war in the
Comments, and these names also are searchable and all these names will
be displayed in JOWBR.

I strongly believe that this is our duty to put every name we can read to our
JOWBR database regardless if person was buried in that cemetery or died
somewhere else.

I want to give you an example >from the grave of my grandmother Elka
Shabsovna Kogan (z''l) (1902-1969), see image at
https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/files/cemetery/Kishinev/MyGrands.jpg

You see 3 other names on her monument:

- Kogan Meer Peysakhovich, 1894 - 1944. It is Elka's husband, my grandfather.
He was conscripted to the labor army to work in Siberia in Kemerovo oblast in a
coal mine, and was killed by a wagon.

- Spivak Fanya Khaimovna, 1896-1941. This is my other grandmother, who
died in a shtetl Kaushany, Moldova before the war started on the territory of
Soviet Union. As my parents told me, the monument for her grave arrived a few
days before they had to evacuate to the East, and after the war everything was
lost, the cemetery was almost destroyed by local, and later completely
disappeared, and now it is a potato field with a number of houses build on top..

- Tismenetskiy David Mikhaylovich, my distant relative, died during the war.

There is no monument for either of them, and their names in Kishinev cemetery
is the reminder of their lives.

Now I should tell you what we are not translating. On many monuments you can
find information of a surviving family. It might be written that wife and son are
mourning the loss (that is valuable genealogical information), or son and
grandson will remember the deceased, or even you see a name of a person who
put in the monument, like daughter Lisa is mourning the great loss of her father.
We are not translating that information, first because these people were live at
the time of the burial, and I felt that it may not be appropriate to list such names
in the Burial registry. Also in some cases, surviving person could write a poem
on a stone, or a letter, and that is difficult to translate. Finally, it is a lot of
additional work for translators, and we have a number of cemeteries we did not
index at all.

Please let me know if you have any questions, suggestions.

all the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Phyllis Kramer z'l #general

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer just passed away.
She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to JewishGen, to JewishGen education
and to those who worked with her and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phyllis Kramer z'l #general

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer just passed away.
She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to JewishGen, to JewishGen education
and to those who worked with her and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #sephardic

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #yizkorbooks

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Phyllis Kramer z'l #sephardic

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Phyllis Kramer z'l #yizkorbooks

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education


Phyllis Kramer z'l #dna

Nancy Holden
 

To all JewishGeners

It is with deep grief that I have to tell you that Phyllis Kramer
just passed away. She has been a loyal and deeply loving friend to
JewishGen, to JewishGen education and to those who worked with her
and to all her students .

She will be mourned.

Nancy Holden
JewishGen Education