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Re: Lithuanian Revision Lists #lithuania

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi Jeremy,

I have seen family members listed as missing on revision lists from Ariogala (near Kovna.)  These people were already living in NYC at the time of being listed as "missing."

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa)


ViewMate files translation request #translation

Debbie Terman
 

I've posted 2 vital records in German for which I need translations. They are online at:


Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Debbie Cohn Terman
Massachusetts, USA

Researching COHN, NAGEL (Germany); STRAUSS, STRZYZA, DUBNER/DYBNER, ZYLBERMAN, WIATRAK, ISMACH (Poland/Russia); SEILER (Poland/Austria/Ukraine)


Re: Immigration photo possibility #general

David Oseas
 

Visas weren't required until the Immigration Act of 1924 (which took effect on July 1, 1924).

If your relatives naturalized after July 1, 1929, there is likely a photo attached to their Declaration of Naturalization (per Naturalization Act of March 2, 1929).

Regards,
David Oseas

Researching:
HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles
KRONOWITH:
Hungary > New York
OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles
SCHECHTER/SHEKTER: Kishinev, Bessarabia > New York  
SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles
STRUL:  Iasi, Romania > Haifa, Israel
WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles


Re: An Old Song - Possibly Russian, possibly Yiddish #general

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

Was part of the chorus  "kukirika kukirika+  ...toni go kura ?
If so, that was a song that my father used to sing to me - he was born in Poland in 1896. 
All i remembered was this chorus. Some years ago I sang it to some friends on a kibbutz in Israel and they sang the whole song back to me.
Unfortunately, I do not have it and hope that someone else can send us the words.
The song is about  a rooster crowing in the  morning.  I assume that it is a children's song for waking up in the morning.

Avivah Pinski
                                       


                                              

I have a very old and distant memory of my grandfather singing a song with a title that sounded like Toni Godl.  The o in Toni is short and I have failed to find any reference.

He was allegedly from Kiev, Ukraine

This has been nagging away for ages, can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks


--
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


Re: Towns within Poznan region JewishGen' Gazetteer #poland

Simon Srebrny
 

FYI: Neither Carlsruhe in Upper Silesia nor Militsch in Lower Silesia is in the Poznan region.

Simon Srebrny


Re: Jewish name Dove #names

avivahpinski@verizon.net
 


Dov is a fairly common Hebrew name.  It means bear and sometimes there is a bear on the individuals's matzevah (gravestone) 
The Yiddish equivalent is Baer.

Avivah Pinski



At 03:35 07/06/2020, kfhgw via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:

I'm sorry if this sounds silly but in researching a brother of the ancestor, his lists his father's name as Dove on the death certificate.  There is nothing on the tombstone.  I don't see the name anywhere else in the family and the family I believe is from Poland.  I've not seen Dove as a name before and was wondering if it is short, Yiddish, or nickname for something else.  He lists his mother as Annie which 2 out of the 4 sons have daughter's named Fannie.

Thanks,
Karen Gramigna-Warren
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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


COHEN family from Toronto descendants of family #canada

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with brothers Leron and Eldan #COHEN whose
father was Doron, 1940-2011, son of Shoshana nee #BERDYCZEWSKI which
family traced back to the Rabbinical #HOROWITZ family.

Neil Rosenstein


Re: passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

Diane Jacobs
 

If you go to stevemorse.org
You can search the pages of any ship arrival
By clicking on the ship lists section on the first batch passenger manifests to New York. Type in the name of the ship and the month and year. When it comes up, click on the ship's name and up will come the actual manifest pages to look through.

Good luck.
Diane Jacobs



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: "Mark Jacobson via groups.jewishgen.org" <mark_j1_2000=yahoo.com@...>
Date: 6/7/20 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

The SS Rotterdam, a ship from the Holland American Line, arrived in NY December 14, 1904, not December 25, 1904.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN/KAMMERMANN, WEGNER - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 03:51:25 PM EDT, Ryan Cramer via groups.jewishgen.org <rycramer=yahoo.com@...> wrote:


On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Re: Mexican Vital Records relative from Poland #latinamerica

Michael Herzlich
 

I have found Mexican vital records of Jewish immigrants on Ancestry.com.  However, to see the records you need a World Explorer level membership.
 
Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA
------------------------------------------------
Carol asked:

Does anyone have a clue where I could find a marriage and death record for a Polish immigrant who settled in Mexico around 1900-1920, married a few years later, and died in the late 1930s? His name was Max Greenberg from Waldowa; he married Masha Allegant and had two children: “Raquel” and “Juan.”   I can find him in a census on line, and found birth records for the two children, but would love to see the other documents.  Thanks!

 

Carol Isenberg Clingan

Dedham MA

 

--
Michael Herzlich
Delray Beach, Florida USA

Belarus - EPSTEIN, HELFAND, POLLACK
Galicia (Poland, Ukraine) - HERZLICH, TREIBER


Re: passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

Friedman, H George
 

"On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam. I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations. Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed? If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it. Thank you!"

Keep in mind that the info on the immigration docs was often given from memory, and the date and/or the ship name might be wrong. I would look at similar dates and, if necessary, other ships from around the same time.

Good luck.

George Friedman


Drozdowicz Hertz Bet (tzvi dov) #poland

irit.goldfeder@...
 

Hi ,
my name paul dani goldfeder , 
i’m searching for more details about Drozdowicz Herz ber .
he died 1938 in Warsau .
he had 3 children : josef, ruchla-laja, jehudith.
name first wife : fajga
name second wife : elka morgenstern die 1931.
Herz ber was boen in Novy Dvor
thank you
paul


Re: passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

Mark Jacobson
 

The SS Rotterdam, a ship from the Holland American Line, arrived in NY December 14, 1904, not December 25, 1904.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN/KAMMERMANN, WEGNER - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 03:51:25 PM EDT, Ryan Cramer via groups.jewishgen.org <rycramer=yahoo.com@...> wrote:


On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!


New Translation of Ratno, Ukraine Yizkor book just published #ukraine

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor Books in Print is proud to announce the publication of its 96 title.

“Ratno Yizkor Book”
The Story of the Destroyed Jewish Community
Dedicated To the Memory of a Vanished Jewish Town In Ukraine

Translation of Ratne; sipura shel kehila yehudit she-hushmeda
Original Yizkor Book Published by
The Former Residents of Ratno in Israel Tel-Aviv 1983

Translation Project Coordinator: Lynne Siegel
Editors: Nachman Tamir
Layout: Jonathan Wind
Cover Design: Nina Schwartz
Name Indexing: Jonathan Wind
Hard Cover, 11” by 8.5”,
590 pages with all original illustrations and photographs

List price: $62.95 available from JewishGen for $37 including
shipping, handling and taxes in the US, UK, Canada and Australia.

To order, go to the bottom of
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Ratno.html
and click on JewishGen to fill out the order form and pay by PayPal

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor Books in Print Project (YBIP)


Mexican Vital Records relative from Poland #latinamerica

Carol
 

Does anyone have a clue where I could find a marriage and death record for a Polish immigrant who settled in Mexico around 1900-1920, married a few years later, and died in the late 1930s? His name was Max Greenberg from Waldowa; he married Masha Allegant and had two children: “Raquel” and “Juan.”   I can find him in a census on line, and found birth records for the two children, but would love to see the other documents.  Thanks!

 

Carol Isenberg Clingan

Dedham MA

 


passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

Ryan Cramer
 

On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!


Towns within Poznan region JewishGen' Gazetteer #poland

Alexander Sharon
 

Recently  Moses Jefferson requested identification of two towns, related to surname Ebstein and located within Poznan area. As always, JewishGenners came up with good suggestions and recommendations as to towns identification.

Why I am writing this? What is surprising is that JewishGen Gazetteer and related JGFF database were not suggested for the search.

 

  1. Both towns were located within Poznan region, thus search through JewishGen Gazetteer should be narrowed to Poland.

 

Town {Bad} Carlsruhe, OS

 

Location CARLSRUHE (precise spelling) in Poland
For an online Map click on Google Maps

Location
(Native names in BOLD)

Feature Type

Coordinates
(Click for JewishGen Resource Map)

Map

Country

Distance/Direction
from reference point

10 mile radius

Pokój, Carlsruhe

populated place

50°54' N 17°50' E

G

Poland

164.6 miles SW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°00' E

 

 

 

By clicking JewishGen icon attached to the left of the modern Polish town name Pokój, addional information about the town past names and regional affiliation is available, including names of the two researchers and the surnames researched.

 

Surname

Town

Country

Last Updated

Researcher (JGID Code)

Bielschowsky

Pokoj

Poland

3 Apr 2006

Click HERE to contact Deborah Anne Nothmann (#40147)

Last logged in: August 2019

Epstein

Pokoj

Poland

28 Aug 2010

Click HERE to contact Angelika Gertrud Ellmann-Krueger (#101613)

Last logged in: July 2015

Freund

Pokoj

Poland

28 Aug 2010

Ebstein

Pokoj

Poland

14 Apr 2004

 

The last family name on the list – Ebstein, added back in 2004 is the name that Moses Jefferson is researching.

 

Verysimilar exercise should be used while researching town Militsch with JG Gazetteer

 

Location
(Native names in BOLD)

Feature Type

Coordinates
(Click for JewishGen Resource Map)

Map

Country

Distance/Direction
from reference point

10 mile radius

Milicz, Militsch

populated place

51°32' N 17°17' E

G

Poland

166.4 miles WSW of Warszawa 52°15' N 21°00' E

 

 

 

And JGFF database shows the following names researched in MIlicz

 

Searching for Town (Exact) : MILICZ
in Poland

Run on Sun, 07 Jun 2020 13:28:41 -0600




Number of hits: 4
( 4 Researchers )

Surname

Town

Country

Last Updated

Researcher (JGID Code)

Blaustein

Milicz

Poland

30 May 2000

Jim Bennett (#1852)
4 Freud Street
Haifa
34753
Israel
Click HERE to contact Jim Bennett (#1852)

Last logged in: May 2018

RD Researcher Deceased

Halberstaedter

Milicz

Poland

14 Feb 2000

Click HERE to contact Thomas J Crosby (#39667)

Last logged in: July 2010

Jutkowski

Milicz

Poland

29 Dec 2004

Click HERE to contact Shaul Yutav (#138502)

Last logged in: December 2004

Klagsbrunn

Milicz

Poland

16 Apr 2012

Click HERE to contact Researcher #214870

Last logged in: May 2020

 

May I suggest Moses to add surname Ebstein to Milicz.

 

Best,

 

Alexander Sharon

JGFF editor


Trouble identifying city / town on ship manifest #austria-czech

Jeremy Lefkowitz
 

In the "country" column, my great-grandmother put "Austria," but for "city or town" I cannot tell what was entered.  It looks something like "RUBASSA" or "RUBACCA," but I cannot figure it out.  It's the fourth one down from the top of the section in the attached image.  The manifest is for the S.S. Montezuma, March 23 1906.  If anyone has any leads on what this may say, I'd love some help!
Thank you,

Jeremy Lefkowitz
Swarthmore, PA


Re: Y DNA question #dna

Stephen Weinstein
 

Short answer:

Your full brother's son's DNA would.  Your son's DNA or your sister's son's DNA would not.  Your paternal half-brother's son's DNA would.  Your maternal half-brother's DNA would not.

Long answer:

Your son's DNA would help for finding his father's relatives, but would not help for finding any of your relatives whom you could not find with your own DNA.  His Y DNA would not help at all for finding your relatives, because it comes only from his father.  If your DNA was not available to test, then his regular DNA would help with finding your relatives, because half of it is from you, but it would help only to find relatives whom you would also find with your own DNA, and you are more likely to find them with your DNA than his, since he has only half of your regular DNA.

Similarly, your sisters' sons' DNA, would help for finding THEIR fathers' relatives, but their Y-DNA would not help you find YOUR father's relatives.

However, your brother's sons' DNA would help for finding your brother's father's relatives.  If your brother is either your full brother (same father as you and same mother as your) or your paternal half-brother (same father, different mother), then these would be your paternal relatives.  If your brother is your maternal half-brother (same mother, different father), then these would not be your relatives.

Exceptions:

1) In the Torah, Abraham says that Sarah is his father's daughter or granddaughter (but not his mother's); therefore, Sarah could learn about the relatives of Terah (her father or grandfather) by testing the DNA of Isaac (her son and also the son of Terah's son Abraham), if DNA testing had been invented.  However, it would be no more useful than testing the DNA of Ishmael (the son of Abraham and Hagar, another woman, whom we will assume is not related to Sarah).  The same would apply today.  Similarly, if a woman's father is also her sister's sons' father, then DNA testing them would be useful, but only as useful as if she was not related to their mother.

2) There are rare cases of a person being born anatomically female, but with a Y chromosome.  The person appears to be a normal female (or even slightly less masculine than a typical woman) and often does not find out that they have a Y chromosome.  If your son is adopted, then there is a remote chance that you might have Y DNA that could be tested.  However, a person with this condition is not able to have biological children.  (They don't have ovaries or a properly functioning uterus.)  If you gave birth to your son (whether with your own eggs or donor eggs) or used a surrogate with your eggs, then you definitely don't have Y DNA.  (Finally, a transgender person who was born male, but now self-identifies as female, would still have sufficient Y DNA to have it tested and would not need to use the DNA of a male relative.)


Immigration photo possibility #general

lisab5308@...
 

My great-grandmother and her children came to NY from Romania in 1905.  I was wondering if they would have had any photos taken in order to come here and, if so, how I could access such a photo.  They did go through Ellis Island.  Thank you for any help.

Lisa Bracco


Re: Meaning of Bazel and Chepah #names #romania

Peter Cohen
 

Would Bashel be a diminutive of Basya (Batya)? (And is Batya itself a diminutive of Batsheba?)

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