Re: Surname Adoption derived from Mother #names

Yonatan Ben-Ari

Several months (or years ago) there was an article in the israeli newspaper "makor rishon" regarding  a book written by a doctoral candidate at bar ilan university regarding people who took maternal family names. Very interesting and enlightning.
Yoni ben ari

Jarden Bookstore Krakow #poland

Fay Bussgang

The Jarden Bookstore in Krakow, treasured by many of you on travels to Poland, has been hard hit by the Corona virus and is threatened with closure. Erica Lehrer, professor at Concordia University in Montreal and an expert on Polish-Jewish folk art and other Polish-Jewish topics, is running a campaign to help save the bookstore.  All contributions to help would be greatly appreciated. Her letter is below. 

Fay Bussgang
Dedham, MA

Hello Friends!
I hope this email finds you well in these terrible times.
I have never organized a fundraiser before. But the Jarden Jewish Bookshop, a tiny, big-hearted bookshop in Kraków, Poland run by non-Jews Zdzisław and Lucyna Leś, has meant so very much to me in both personal and professional terms, for almost 30 years. I could not sit by and let COVID-19 take them without a fight. 
Please read my call and watch the videos on the Go Fund Me page I set up, help if you can, and pass the link along to others who care about cultural pluralism, books, neighborhood institutions, intercultural dialogue, engaging with difficult histories, and - not least - Poland's profound, embattled Jewish heritage.
With my sincere thanks,


Erica Lehrer -- Concordia University 
Professor, History and Sociology-Anthropology
Director, Curating and Public Scholarship Lab (CaPSL)


Traveling Through the Heartland of Galicia: A Galitzianer's Journey #events #galicia

Steven Turner

Welcome to the first of our series of webinar video presentations. We trust that you will enjoy them and find them worthwhile―especially during these days of pandemic isolation.

Since we are an international organization with members all over the world it was not possible to make this a live interactive webinar. Therefore, the presentation was recorded for you to view at your convenience but we would like very much to interact with those who view it.

Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link.

You must be a member of Gesher Galicia in good standing to view this webinar on our Members Portal. If you have not yet paid your 2020 dues now may be a good time to do so to be able to view these presentations.

The first presentation is by our President, Dr. Steven S. Turner and is entitled, “Traveling Through the Heart of Galicia: A Galitzianer’s Journey.”

Please email Dr. Turner at ssturner@... with any questions or comments. We also welcome any suggestions that you may have on how to improve these webinars.

Dr. Turner traveled in the summer of 2018 prior to and after the IAJGS conference in Warsaw. He is the founder of the Nadworna Shtetl Research Group and under the guidance of Alex Denisenko he organized a trip from Warsaw with a group of descendants through Eastern Galicia to Nadwórna (today Nadvirna, Ukraine). Prior to the convention he traveled with his wife through Western Galicia.

Some of the stops on the journey were in:

Kraków, Shendishov (now Sędziszów Małopolski, Poland), Lublin, Majdanek, Bełżec, Zamość, Zhovka, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk (formerly Stanisławów)―A Shabbat with Rabbi Moyshe Kolesnik, Nadwórna, Rohatyn

In the next few days we will also upload presentations from Dr. Andrew Zalewski on:
University Records: Jewish Medical Students
Cadastral Surveys: Names, Houses and Land Records
We hope that you will enjoy this new series that is just another benefit of your Gesher Galicia membership.


Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: Looking for information on 2 branches of my family #names

Jill Whitehead

As ever, please look at JRI Poland for Lomza records online or old copies of Landsmen, the journal of the Suwalki Lomza Interest Group (now defunct) if your library holds these. It is also quite likely your family would have anglicised their name in the UK, so it could have become e.g. Morris, for example, or the family could have used the family patronymic e.g. Max or Marks was often used for names like Morris, as well as Morris itself. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Re: 2020 US Census, post census thoughts #general

Stephen Weinstein

The purpose of the census was never to gather information to be used by future genealogists.  That was just an accidental benefit.

The original purpose of the census was to determine the free population of each state, excluding slaves and Native American Indians, and the slave population, in order to calculate the sum of "the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons" for purposes of apportioning seats in the House of Representatives and a hypothetical direct tax that the states would have paid to the federal government.

The purpose of the census has always been to gather statistical information, not to gather personally identifiable information.  Originally, they recorded the name of only the head of the household (usually the husband) and the number of slaves, children, wives, etc., but not their names.

The information useful to genealogists was added for a variety of reasons, but genealogy was never one of them.  The lack of questions that would be useful for purposes other than those for which the census is conducted in no way relates to whether the census is meaningless or still fulfills the government's purpose in conducting it -- even if not the unintended purposes for which genealogists use it.

Re: Surname Adoption derived from Mother #names

Doug Cohen

In some places, esp. the Austro-Hungarian empire, families were limited in how many sons the governent allowed to marry.   Other children were married by a rabbi "according to the laws of Moses and Jewish traditions." Thus, as far as the government was concerned, the marriage wasn't lawful.  And children were considered illegitimate and took the mother's surname.  the Jews didn't care what the government thought; they knew their children had been under the chupa -- and they never wanted surnames anyway!

Don't know if that's what happened in your family or not, but it's a plausible reason.

Doug Cohen, Sarasota, FL & Lexington, MA

Re: Surname Adoption derived from Mother #names

Laurie Sosna

I've got one in my family.
Levi MELLER married Paye Ettl LEVIN (1870?). He took her last name.
Story goes that Paye had no brothers, Levi became the "only son" and head of the family, avoids conscription.

I can't find any records of them (not sure where they were born, where they married, last names are not distinctive enough).
They ended up in Yekaterinoslav (Dnipro) maybe, some indication that they may have been from Lithuania.
A bit of a mess, genealogically speaking.
Their grandson Lewis used Meller as his middle name on his naturalization papers.

Laurie Sosna
San Francisco, CA

Re: Surname Adoption derived from Mother #names

Michael Sharp

I have found this on my family tree where in Russian Poland families sometimes adopted a matronymic rather than a patronymic naming convention. This may have been done to avoid conscription into the Tsarist army under the Cantonist laws. Whether similar factors applied in late 17th century / early 18th century western and central Europe I do not know

Re: Rosenbusch #germany


I have several Rosenbusch in my tree.  They were born in Grünsfeld, Baden-Württemberg, Germany  

Re: 2020 US Census, post census thoughts #general

Bob Silverstein

I too was disappointed in the census because it asked so few questions.  Yes, the genealogical value is near zero although it will be more readable and, hopefully, have fewer spelling errors.  The value still is that it captures where people were living on a certain day.  The information that government has already was collected at different times.

I do not think future genealogists will be waiting on baited breath for the results of this census come 2092.

Moltovichi, Belarus #belarus

Arthur Sissman

Hi Jgenners,

In the 1813 Census in Belarus, the town of Moltovichi is mentioned.  I cannot find it on town finder in Belarus or anywhere. A google search takes me to Smolevichi belarus page. [ ] Smolevichi [now Smalyavichy, Minsk region; JGen town finder: ]..

I know that the all knowing members of this group will know the answer.  Thanks for your help in advance

Looking for Telishevsky, Telishevskii, Teleshevsky, Telshevsky, Teleshevskia, Tilishevesky - where ever they may be
Do you have any.  Please reply personally re the Tele.....s - hit the link below!. .

Arthur Sissman

Looking for information on 2 branches of my family #names

Beryl & Gabi Otvos

I am unable to find information on the family of my paternal grandmother, Sarah Leah Monesavitch/Morosavitch born in Lomza and married in a stille chupah in London June 28, 1888. Also searching for information on my maternal grandfather's family, Botstein. I have found a grave in the name of B L Botshtein in Chernigov, Ukraine born 1905, died1965 but no other information. Any ideas would be welcome.
Beryl Otvos
Bojna, Minosavitch/Morosavitch from Lomza. Botstein/Boshtein from Ukraine, Landesman from Brody, Russia/Poland

Re: Surname Adoption derived from Mother #names

Valentin Lupu

There are plenty of such surnames in Eastern Europe. Some few examples:  Bashevis (from Bat Shevah), Sirkin (Sarah), Haikin (Chaia, Chaike),  Rivlin (Rivah), Beilin (Beilah), etc.

Valentin Lupu

IGRA Free Webinar April 26 Historical Maps #events

Elena Bazes

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) will be broadcasting a free webinar in English on Sunday. April 26th   7 pm Israel Time, 12 pm (EDT).  The topic of the webinar is “Location, Location, Location: How Genealogical Research Can Benefit from Historical Maps” by Ed Mitukiewicz..

Genealogy researchers frequently face the challenges of identifying ancestral towns—in particular those located in Central and Eastern Europe. This presentation demonstrates the use of readily available web-based resources—including digital repositories of historical maps, gazetteers and geographic information databases—that can help to overcome many such challenges.


Edward Mitukiewicz is a mathematician and computer scientist by education, researcher and technology consultant by profession, and amateur cartographer and genealogist by coincidence. Ed has a particular weakness for historical maps - rumor has it that Ed never met one he did not like. Ed worked as editor, translator and map consultant during the production of the 2015 “Raise the Roof” documentary film about reconstructing the roof and painted ceiling of an 18th century wooden synagogue of Gwoździec. At recent genealogy conferences in Poland, Israel and the United States Ed presented illustrative scenarios of using historical maps in genealogical research.


Registration is required as there are a limited number of “seats” available. Reminders will be sent out closer to the date of the webinar. To register go to the link below.


Elena Biegel Bazes

IGRA Publicity Chair 


Re: Discovered my grandmother owned land before the war, what now? #austria-czech #holocaust

Robert Fraser

My late uncle, who fled Austria to Britain in 1939 and
joined the British army, returned to Vienna in 1947 upon
being demobbed.. He went straight to his parents' flat.
There was a nazi couple living there who had moved in
directly after his parents had been expelled and deported to
Riga, where they died.

He suggested that they share this small flat for the time
being, but the man brought a court action against him. The
Austrian judge asked if, at the time of his parents' arrest,
was he in the flat? Of course not. So he had to move out and
that's how it stayed.

The flat is still there - I have visited it.

Robert Fraser
Perth, Western Australia

Robert W Fraser

Perth, Western Australia

Researcher 6342

Re: Discovered my grandmother owned land before the war, what now? #austria-czech #holocaust

dennis gries

I've been reading the various posts on this subject...
My grandparents were victims of the Holocaust.  My maternal aunt made it her work with a Dr.Kempner (a german atty with offices in Phila and perhaps elsewhere) to qualify for and benefit from the West German "restitution" process.  I rather remember her doing this in the 1950s onward.  My father was from an East German area, and I did get some funds about 10 years ago.   
The family before that (both sides) were in the Tarnow area of Poland.  I visited there about 5 years ago, but have no inclination to seek whatever might be possible.  People are probably living on the lands, and have made their lives.  I don't wish to disrupt this.  

List of emigrants from Rheinland 1814-1939 #germany

Andreas Schwab

The Landesarchiv NRW has online an excel file containing persons who emigrated from the Rhineland (Rheinland) between 1814 and 1939. The list contains name, profession, year of emigration, home town, destination and the shelf number and page to find more information from the archive.
Full link:
The link to the excel file is at the bottom of the page.

Re: Rosenbusch #germany


Hi, I descend from the Rosenbusch family of Borken(Hessen). Joseph Rosenbusch is the earliest known with that surname.  He was born about 1743,  His father was Elchanen born about 1710. There are about 1500 members of the tree.
Also,  three brothers of my Wirth family married 3 Rosenbusch sisters from Gaukonigsberg.  I have not researched this family, but am in touch with descendants.
Dennis Aron dennisaron@...
Skokie, IL
My 20170119 Aron Family Tree is public on

Searching GRUNFELD (GREENFELD) family from Maramaros county. #hungary #rabbinic #romania


Prior to the Holocaust, our HEIMLICH family lived in the city of Szilagysomlyo (Simleu-Silvaniei).  We were a large Hasidic family of grandparents, ten families and dozens of grandchildren (one of them was my father).

In recent years we manage to find and connect with descendants of survivors or relatives of those who did not survive (such as a sibling), that made up our large family - except one: NAFTALI HEIMLICH b. 1901 who married GOLDA GRUNFELD b. 1904.

נפתלי הערצקא היימליך שנישא למרת גולדה לבית גרינפעלד : in Hebrew 

Before the war they raised, in Szilagysomlyo, four or five children - after the war no one survived - we lost any contact of Heimlich and Grunfeld families.

We do not know which city Golda came from – we only know that she came from Maramaros county.  The Name Golda We know from page testimony of two survivors written in 1957.  In a civil record from the 1930s we found that her name was written AURELIA.

Golda came probably from Hasidic family, maybe rabbinical family.  If the information above brings up any memory please contact us.



Yehuda Heimlich, Israel (yehudhe@... or yehudahe050@...)

Re: Rosenbusch #germany


Any first names? Dates?

17121 - 17140 of 658745