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Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Pierre HAHN
 

Hi

I have the following information on a religious marriage in Paris France

On 26-Dec-1877 (20 Tevet 5638) at Nazareth Synagogue

Joseph ARBIB, born in Gibraltar and residing in London

Married

? FIELDER, born in London and residing in London.

Now the questions

In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what is the law
in England?

No French civil record yet found. Is there a British civil record to be found?

Thanks for any help.

Pierre M HAHN, San Francisco, ID #: 61767


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Pierre HAHN
 

Hi

I have the following information on a religious marriage in Paris France

On 26-Dec-1877 (20 Tevet 5638) at Nazareth Synagogue

Joseph ARBIB, born in Gibraltar and residing in London

Married

? FIELDER, born in London and residing in London.

Now the questions

In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what is the law
in England?

No French civil record yet found. Is there a British civil record to be found?

Thanks for any help.

Pierre M HAHN, San Francisco, ID #: 61767


Re: finding address of resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Regina Brooker <rbroo@...>
 

Have you tried the Lodz Registration cards that are on line? They are
from 1921. If you go to JRI Lodz and put in his last name you can see
if he has a registration card.

Regina Brooker Hudson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Go to www.jri-poland.org, and click on Search,
then Search the Database at the top of the page. On the search
form, enter the surname, and then choose Town and enter Lodz.


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: finding address of resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Regina Brooker <rbroo@...>
 

Have you tried the Lodz Registration cards that are on line? They are
from 1921. If you go to JRI Lodz and put in his last name you can see
if he has a registration card.

Regina Brooker Hudson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Go to www.jri-poland.org, and click on Search,
then Search the Database at the top of the page. On the search
form, enter the surname, and then choose Town and enter Lodz.


Re: finding address of Lodz resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

Hello,

Gideon Miller asked how to find Lodz pre-war addresses.
There is a 1939 map of Lodz on YIVO encyclopedia web site at
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/maps.aspx

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: finding address of Lodz resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

Hello,

Gideon Miller asked how to find Lodz pre-war addresses.
There is a 1939 map of Lodz on YIVO encyclopedia web site at
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/maps.aspx

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Fay Bussgang
 

Search the Lodz Registration Cards on JRI-Poland.

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Subject: finding address of resident who left in 1930s
From: "Gideon Miller" <gideon@...>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:53:18 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello,

I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in
1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the
house he was born in.

We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents.

Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years?
Thanks very much for any ideas,

Gideon Miller


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Fay Bussgang
 

Search the Lodz Registration Cards on JRI-Poland.

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Subject: finding address of resident who left in 1930s
From: "Gideon Miller" <gideon@...>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:53:18 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello,

I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in
1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the
house he was born in.

We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents.

Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years?
Thanks very much for any ideas,

Gideon Miller


Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Re: Lodz addresses

Posting publicly because this may help others too.

Gideon Miller asks for help finding his father-in-law's address in
prewar Lodz. I've done a lot of research in Lodz because most of my
family was >from there (& of those who remained during the war years
sadly nearly all of them perished). I was just there a few months ago
for the first time with my 83-year-old mother - her first visit back
in over 60 years! As you can imagine it was very emotional (and not
always easy).

So to answer your question: I assume you're familiar with records
in JRI-Poland's database, especially the Lodz address cards from
1916-1921. Margalit Ashira Ir and her team of volunteers did a
brilliant job indexing them. So if you haven't done so already,
search
those: https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

If you're looking for addresses later than that period, are you
familiar with Genealogy Indexer https://genealogyindexer.org/ ?
Another fabulous site, run by Logan Kleinwaks. It has address
directories including for Lodz right up to just before the war.

If you're looking for addresses of relatives who,like many of mine,
were unfortunate enough to be trapped in the ghetto, JewishGen, Yad
Vashem and the U.S. Holocaust Museum all have databases of addresses
in the Lodz ghetto, based on the census-like address books of
residents in the ghetto. The records in these three sites do overlap
but each also has records the others don't, so I'd search all
of them.

Personally I find the USHMM's website best for finding addresses in
the ghetto as you can send an email to get a copy of the document
immediately. You may also find home addresses on other documents, e.g.
The addresses of people registered as prisoners in a concentration
camp were often noted on their camp registration card.
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/person_advance_search.php

Yad Vashem also has Pages of Testimony, written by survivors,
relatives and others to commemorate those who were killed, which the
USHMM doesn't have. Sometimes people stated their families' addresses
on those pages: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/

Of course, after all that, you want to go to the addresses physically.
So first check JewishGen's Lodz streets database, which will tell you
whether and how the street names have changed over the years (and
whether the street itself still exists!):
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/streets.htm

You can also find maps and photos of old Lodz online to see how things
looked then as compared to now.

Finally, Lodz is not a large city and it's not difficult to cover the
central/downtown area, the old town (Stare Miasto) and Baluty areas,
the areas where most Jews lived, on foot. In our case, my mother has
difficulty walking so we took a taxi (called via the hotel) and
traveled around to all the addresses she remembered and that I had dug
up through research. Of course I had a map with a route plotted. Some
of the buildings we went to had been pulled down and and there were
either empty lots or ugly communist-era apartment blocks on the site,
others were derelict shells of prewar buildings either about to be
pulled down or perhaps renovated, and others were original and
inhabited by locals. We were in the taxi for around 2 hours, stopping
in many places and sometimes getting out for a few minutes, and it
cost only around 100 zlotys. (Throughout our visit to Poland, we
always called taxis via our hotel, not off the street, and the drivers
always put the meter on. We found the drivers to be very polite and
the taxis very reasonably priced.)

I hope all the above helps and wish you the best of luck for your
father-in-law's own trip!

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland RE: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Re: Lodz addresses

Posting publicly because this may help others too.

Gideon Miller asks for help finding his father-in-law's address in
prewar Lodz. I've done a lot of research in Lodz because most of my
family was >from there (& of those who remained during the war years
sadly nearly all of them perished). I was just there a few months ago
for the first time with my 83-year-old mother - her first visit back
in over 60 years! As you can imagine it was very emotional (and not
always easy).

So to answer your question: I assume you're familiar with records
in JRI-Poland's database, especially the Lodz address cards from
1916-1921. Margalit Ashira Ir and her team of volunteers did a
brilliant job indexing them. So if you haven't done so already,
search
those: https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

If you're looking for addresses later than that period, are you
familiar with Genealogy Indexer https://genealogyindexer.org/ ?
Another fabulous site, run by Logan Kleinwaks. It has address
directories including for Lodz right up to just before the war.

If you're looking for addresses of relatives who,like many of mine,
were unfortunate enough to be trapped in the ghetto, JewishGen, Yad
Vashem and the U.S. Holocaust Museum all have databases of addresses
in the Lodz ghetto, based on the census-like address books of
residents in the ghetto. The records in these three sites do overlap
but each also has records the others don't, so I'd search all
of them.

Personally I find the USHMM's website best for finding addresses in
the ghetto as you can send an email to get a copy of the document
immediately. You may also find home addresses on other documents, e.g.
The addresses of people registered as prisoners in a concentration
camp were often noted on their camp registration card.
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/person_advance_search.php

Yad Vashem also has Pages of Testimony, written by survivors,
relatives and others to commemorate those who were killed, which the
USHMM doesn't have. Sometimes people stated their families' addresses
on those pages: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/

Of course, after all that, you want to go to the addresses physically.
So first check JewishGen's Lodz streets database, which will tell you
whether and how the street names have changed over the years (and
whether the street itself still exists!):
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/streets.htm

You can also find maps and photos of old Lodz online to see how things
looked then as compared to now.

Finally, Lodz is not a large city and it's not difficult to cover the
central/downtown area, the old town (Stare Miasto) and Baluty areas,
the areas where most Jews lived, on foot. In our case, my mother has
difficulty walking so we took a taxi (called via the hotel) and
traveled around to all the addresses she remembered and that I had dug
up through research. Of course I had a map with a route plotted. Some
of the buildings we went to had been pulled down and and there were
either empty lots or ugly communist-era apartment blocks on the site,
others were derelict shells of prewar buildings either about to be
pulled down or perhaps renovated, and others were original and
inhabited by locals. We were in the taxi for around 2 hours, stopping
in many places and sometimes getting out for a few minutes, and it
cost only around 100 zlotys. (Throughout our visit to Poland, we
always called taxis via our hotel, not off the street, and the drivers
always put the meter on. We found the drivers to be very polite and
the taxis very reasonably priced.)

I hope all the above helps and wish you the best of luck for your
father-in-law's own trip!

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


ViewMate translation request - Russian_ #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text for the
following four birth and marriage records. I would like a translation of
all the genealogically significant information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74724
PUTER-SZTUDEN 1899 marriage

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74728
Moszko PUTER 1900 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74731
?Sonia PUTER 1904 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74725
Beniamin EJLBAUM 1899 birth


Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@...


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Russian_ #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text for the
following four birth and marriage records. I would like a translation of
all the genealogically significant information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74724
PUTER-SZTUDEN 1899 marriage

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74728
Moszko PUTER 1900 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74731
?Sonia PUTER 1904 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74725
Beniamin EJLBAUM 1899 birth


Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@...


ViewMate translation request - Russian #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text of the 1892
birth record for Avrum Szlema CUKERMAN, Akta 115. I would like a
translation of all the genealogically significant information, especially
his date of birth and place of birth, the town in which the recording took
place (as stated in the record) and the names, ages and birth places of his
parents. I am particularly interested in the maiden name of the mother.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74683 .

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.


Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@...


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Russian #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text of the 1892
birth record for Avrum Szlema CUKERMAN, Akta 115. I would like a
translation of all the genealogically significant information, especially
his date of birth and place of birth, the town in which the recording took
place (as stated in the record) and the names, ages and birth places of his
parents. I am particularly interested in the maiden name of the mother.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74683 .

Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.


Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@...


Ghetto card #poland

Geraldine Courtney
 

I have found a Ghetto death card for what I fear may be a son of my family
who lived in Warsaw. His parents and siblings all left Poland during the
early 1900s for the States, but I have so far been unable to trace that
he ever joined them, or indeed left Warsaw himself. Yet, why would he
remain behind? There is no record of a marriage and I have searched
every source available to me for him, yet I can only find his birth and
this death card.

I am aware that the year 1941, in which this particular death of a
Wolf Sztajnchajer is recorded, is one for which the records were
miraculously discovered. However, what I would like to know is whether
there exists any other source to confirm more comprehensive or specific
details, and if there were records >from Warsaw showing his death
officially other than via the Ghetto death card. The card itself names
him and shows cause of death confirmed by a doctor, and that is all
the information available on it.

Is it likely he was ever buried and named and, if so, would his burial
place require to be registered by the State? Were records ever kept
in Poland of those people who suddenly disappeared >from their homes
and travelled clandestinely, or otherwise, to other countries? The
members of my family comprised nine people, and in addition there were
also wives and children. Could they simply disappear with no one in
authority being aware? I would like to prove or disprove conclusively
that this person may be the Wolf who is connected to me, yet wonder
if this is either realistic or possible.

I would greatly welcome any advice or help. Thank you.

Geraldine Courtney, UK
Researching STEINHAUER & variations, HAUZER/HAUSER, LINDE, ZYSZ


JRI Poland #Poland Ghetto card #poland

Geraldine Courtney
 

I have found a Ghetto death card for what I fear may be a son of my family
who lived in Warsaw. His parents and siblings all left Poland during the
early 1900s for the States, but I have so far been unable to trace that
he ever joined them, or indeed left Warsaw himself. Yet, why would he
remain behind? There is no record of a marriage and I have searched
every source available to me for him, yet I can only find his birth and
this death card.

I am aware that the year 1941, in which this particular death of a
Wolf Sztajnchajer is recorded, is one for which the records were
miraculously discovered. However, what I would like to know is whether
there exists any other source to confirm more comprehensive or specific
details, and if there were records >from Warsaw showing his death
officially other than via the Ghetto death card. The card itself names
him and shows cause of death confirmed by a doctor, and that is all
the information available on it.

Is it likely he was ever buried and named and, if so, would his burial
place require to be registered by the State? Were records ever kept
in Poland of those people who suddenly disappeared >from their homes
and travelled clandestinely, or otherwise, to other countries? The
members of my family comprised nine people, and in addition there were
also wives and children. Could they simply disappear with no one in
authority being aware? I would like to prove or disprove conclusively
that this person may be the Wolf who is connected to me, yet wonder
if this is either realistic or possible.

I would greatly welcome any advice or help. Thank you.

Geraldine Courtney, UK
Researching STEINHAUER & variations, HAUZER/HAUSER, LINDE, ZYSZ


test new topic

Ariel Parkansky
 

this is a test


Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!

Sam Eneman
 

Hi Ariel and Rachel,

I also use the daily digest. At the bottom of each message are options for replying. I used the "Reply To Group" to send this message. But it did not quote from the message automatically and I don't know if that is an administrator option or not. 

So using the "Reply To Group" option means you'll have to copy and paste portion you want to include. However, if you "Reply Online", there is an icon to quote the message.

jg-groups-reply.png

What this emphasizes to me is the JewishGen may have to provide significant technical support (help documents, video tutorials, etc.) to ease the change for our users.

Sam Eneman
Charlotte NC

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Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!
 
From: Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:44:43 PDT 

Hi Ariel,

Thanks for this. The notice in the blue box is configured by the groups software not by JewishGen. I actually have not seen it before. My interpretation of it is that you can reply to individual messages within the digest, but that you cannot reply to the entire digest.

So, if you see a message within the digest that you want to reply to, click on that specific message’s subject & you should be able to reply to it using your email client. 

If you want to test it, click on a subject in a recent digest that you have received & reply with a test message. Hopefully that works!

Rachel Kolokoff Hopper
Ft. Collins



Need gravestone photographs in Brooklyn and Queens #general

Misti Layne
 

Need photographs of tombstones in Brooklyn and Queens, NYC

I'm requesting assistance in getting photographs of some tombstones. They
are:

1. Anna Tirschwell, Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York, plot: Cemetery
3, post 239, row 2, grave #38

2. Morris Tirschwell, same as above, grave #37

3. Jacob Orenstein and possibly Hanna but no record of her, Mount Hebron
Cemetery, Flushing, Queens, New York, Society:
http://www.mounthebroncemetery.com/interments/?page=1&block=13&reference=14&
submitsearch=search#results, Location: Block 13, Ref 14, Sec H/I, Line 1,
Grave 4

Would appreciate anyone who could get these. Please feel free to reach out
to me directly.

Misti Layne, mailto:misti@..., San Francisco

MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Misti before going to the cemetery in order
to avoid duplication of effort.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need gravestone photographs in Brooklyn and Queens #general

Misti Layne
 

Need photographs of tombstones in Brooklyn and Queens, NYC

I'm requesting assistance in getting photographs of some tombstones. They
are:

1. Anna Tirschwell, Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York, plot: Cemetery
3, post 239, row 2, grave #38

2. Morris Tirschwell, same as above, grave #37

3. Jacob Orenstein and possibly Hanna but no record of her, Mount Hebron
Cemetery, Flushing, Queens, New York, Society:
http://www.mounthebroncemetery.com/interments/?page=1&block=13&reference=14&
submitsearch=search#results, Location: Block 13, Ref 14, Sec H/I, Line 1,
Grave 4

Would appreciate anyone who could get these. Please feel free to reach out
to me directly.

Misti Layne, mailto:misti@..., San Francisco

MODERATOR NOTE: Please contact Misti before going to the cemetery in order
to avoid duplication of effort.