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Re: Oderberg Germany Jewish Cemetery #austria-czech

w.e.eckstein@...
 

Ittai Hershman wrote:
I recently discovered that my relative Benjamin LIEBER (born in Brzozow)
died on 26 December 1914 as an Austro-Hungarian World War I casualty. The
record in German states "gestorben im Spital Deutsche Schule im Bahnhof
Oderberg, beerdigt am dortingen Freidhof". (Ref:
http://tinyurl.com/3rccn5o
for the curious).

Oderberg seems to be about 65km Northeast of Berlin as the crow flies.
And
sure enough, it seems there is a Jewish cemetery there
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oderberg), but it is not included in JOWBR.
It is listed in the International Jewish Cemetery Project, but without any
details.
The source listed Benjamin Lieber as member of the Landsturmregiment Nr. 18.
Ittai identifyed the place Oderberg in Prussia - but what did an Austrian
soldier there in 1914?
More likely is Oderberg in former Austrian Silesia, also known as Bogumin
(polish) or Bohumin (czech), now in Czech Rerepublic.
The International Jewish Cemetery Project has information about.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Oderberg Germany Jewish Cemetery #austria-czech

w.e.eckstein@...
 

Ittai Hershman wrote:
I recently discovered that my relative Benjamin LIEBER (born in Brzozow)
died on 26 December 1914 as an Austro-Hungarian World War I casualty. The
record in German states "gestorben im Spital Deutsche Schule im Bahnhof
Oderberg, beerdigt am dortingen Freidhof". (Ref:
http://tinyurl.com/3rccn5o
for the curious).

Oderberg seems to be about 65km Northeast of Berlin as the crow flies.
And
sure enough, it seems there is a Jewish cemetery there
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oderberg), but it is not included in JOWBR.
It is listed in the International Jewish Cemetery Project, but without any
details.
The source listed Benjamin Lieber as member of the Landsturmregiment Nr. 18.
Ittai identifyed the place Oderberg in Prussia - but what did an Austrian
soldier there in 1914?
More likely is Oderberg in former Austrian Silesia, also known as Bogumin
(polish) or Bohumin (czech), now in Czech Rerepublic.
The International Jewish Cemetery Project has information about.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Dick Plotz
 

Hi Marshall--

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Dick


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia test #subcarpathia

Dick Plotz
 

Hi Marshall--

This is a test of the Sub-Carpathia list. You should have received a
copy of the welcome message, but since I subscribed you >from the
server admin level I'm not sure that would have been activated. It was
the revised message Warren approved in February that you sent me then.

Please look at the message footer in this message and check it for
correctness. I'm not sure where your JewishGen-erosity line will sit;
I've put it as if it were a line on the H-SIG JewishGen-erosity page,
and if I hear differently >from Vivian and Warren I'll change it
accordingly.

After I approve this message to go out and the feedback comes that it
was successfully delivered to you, I'll change your subscription to
digest, and you'll get the digest after midnight. Check the
boilerplate text on that too; it's a different setting at this end.

Once we know that's OK, I'll show you around the moderation interface.
When you're sufficiently familiar with it, I'll make the list public,
and you can put out an announcement on the JewishGen Discussion Group
and H-SIG. You'll need a one-line description to go up on the
subscription page
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp>. Check what's
there for the other lists and send Warren the text you want to appear
there.

There are a couple of other things I'll need to test before the list
goes public, but I don't think I'll need your help with those.

Dick


Re: conscription in Poland? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay asked about military service in interwar Poland,
including whether it was required, and Alexander Sharon replied that it was
compulsory for all male citizens at age 18, with the only exemptions being
medical reasons, and those completing high school (who were drafted a year
later) or entering universities, where military training was conducted on a
limited basis.

This may be a small detail, and it may depend on the definition of "military
service," but it wasn't required. (And I don't like to be anecdotal in my
answers to the group, but in this case I have to be.) My father was born in
1911, but he received a classification that exempted him >from military
service and didn't have to be in the Army. I forget the number or letter of
the designation.

The only reasons that I can think may have exempted him were that his father
died shortly before he turned 18 and he was the only male left at home, and
he had a brother who had been killed while serving in the Polish Army. My
father was not particularly knowledgeable about the Polish Army, and thought
that his classification was simply luck. He certainly didn't have the money
or connections to bribe somebody to change his age or lie that he wasn't
physically fit.

Registration for military service in interwar Poland was certainly required,
but service was not.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: conscription in Poland? #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay asked about military service in interwar Poland,
including whether it was required, and Alexander Sharon replied that it was
compulsory for all male citizens at age 18, with the only exemptions being
medical reasons, and those completing high school (who were drafted a year
later) or entering universities, where military training was conducted on a
limited basis.

This may be a small detail, and it may depend on the definition of "military
service," but it wasn't required. (And I don't like to be anecdotal in my
answers to the group, but in this case I have to be.) My father was born in
1911, but he received a classification that exempted him >from military
service and didn't have to be in the Army. I forget the number or letter of
the designation.

The only reasons that I can think may have exempted him were that his father
died shortly before he turned 18 and he was the only male left at home, and
he had a brother who had been killed while serving in the Polish Army. My
father was not particularly knowledgeable about the Polish Army, and thought
that his classification was simply luck. He certainly didn't have the money
or connections to bribe somebody to change his age or lie that he wasn't
physically fit.

Registration for military service in interwar Poland was certainly required,
but service was not.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


RECKENBERG in South Africa and MAX #general

Saul Issroff
 

National Archives South Africa http://www.national.archives.gov.za
Search All Archives repository gives probate files for both of them.
Details should be in the files. You will probably need to get a
professional researcher to obtain the files.

MHG ref 9296/62 RECKENBERG, HILDA CARMEN. BORN MAX. date 1962 1962
MHG 0 ref 7064/59 RECKENBERG, WILLIAM AUGUSTUS FRANCIS. date 1950 1950

Have a look at www.jewishgen.org/safrica and at findmypast.com for
research ideas and passenger records.

Saul Issroff

Beverley Davis <beverleydavis@...> wrote:

.... arrival, marriage and death in South Africa of my husband's
great-aunt, Hilda Carmen (or Carmain) MAX, who went to Johannesburg by
herself (don't know why!) and was married after 1905 (the date on a
photograph sent back to her family in Australia with her maiden name) to a
(presumably) non-Jewish man named William Augustus Francis RECKENBERG. She
was still living in 1948 (mentioned in her aunt's Will). As far as we know,
she had no children. Couldn't find her burial record in Jewish sources.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RECKENBERG in South Africa and MAX #general

Saul Issroff
 

National Archives South Africa http://www.national.archives.gov.za
Search All Archives repository gives probate files for both of them.
Details should be in the files. You will probably need to get a
professional researcher to obtain the files.

MHG ref 9296/62 RECKENBERG, HILDA CARMEN. BORN MAX. date 1962 1962
MHG 0 ref 7064/59 RECKENBERG, WILLIAM AUGUSTUS FRANCIS. date 1950 1950

Have a look at www.jewishgen.org/safrica and at findmypast.com for
research ideas and passenger records.

Saul Issroff

Beverley Davis <beverleydavis@...> wrote:

.... arrival, marriage and death in South Africa of my husband's
great-aunt, Hilda Carmen (or Carmain) MAX, who went to Johannesburg by
herself (don't know why!) and was married after 1905 (the date on a
photograph sent back to her family in Australia with her maiden name) to a
(presumably) non-Jewish man named William Augustus Francis RECKENBERG. She
was still living in 1948 (mentioned in her aunt's Will). As far as we know,
she had no children. Couldn't find her burial record in Jewish sources.


always double check #france

pierre28@...
 

I would like to make sure that our members that use published books such as
the ones by Pierre KATZ of the Cercle de la Genealogie Juive (genealoj.org)
now have a chance to confirm / check those data by going to the on-line
digitized data of the Archives Departementales du Bas-Rhin
(www.archives.cg67.fr) - in French, or the Archives Departementales du
Haut-Rhin (www.archives.cg68.fr) also in French and check the listings in
1808 by cities for "Declarations de prise de nom patronymique des Juifs" or
"Registre des noms des Juifs". I have found that my interpretation of the
written words is sometimes different >from what is stated in his books.

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@... or
pierre1928@...


French SIG #France always double check #france

pierre28@...
 

I would like to make sure that our members that use published books such as
the ones by Pierre KATZ of the Cercle de la Genealogie Juive (genealoj.org)
now have a chance to confirm / check those data by going to the on-line
digitized data of the Archives Departementales du Bas-Rhin
(www.archives.cg67.fr) - in French, or the Archives Departementales du
Haut-Rhin (www.archives.cg68.fr) also in French and check the listings in
1808 by cities for "Declarations de prise de nom patronymique des Juifs" or
"Registre des noms des Juifs". I have found that my interpretation of the
written words is sometimes different >from what is stated in his books.

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@... or
pierre1928@...


Jelgava birth records 1869 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jelgava birth records 1869 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Jelgava marriage records 1919, 1920, 1921 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Jelgava death records 1919, 1920, 1921 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jelgava marriage records 1919, 1920, 1921 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jelgava death records 1919, 1920, 1921 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Wuerzburg Commemorative Event SITE CITE #germany

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz331@...>
 

Dear SIGgers,
I've recently received emails announcing an official event in
Wuerzburg, commemorating the deportation of Jewish citizens in
April-May, 1942. The Lord Mayor of the city will be one of the
sponsors of this event, in which townspeople will carry plaques with
the names of the deported along the routes to the train station, the
last stop in Wuerzburg, this coming May 10. This website,
http://www.wir-wollen-uns-erinnern.de/, lists names and brief
biographical information for the deported, under category 3,
"Deportation," and offers a way to sign up to make the virtual walk.
(English version is limited.) I found one "new" relative on this site,
with a small glitch in her mother's birthdate. I would be happy to provide
the emails of the people who contacted me, in response to private requests.

Judith Berlowitz, Oakland, California @judithb

Recent research: GATTMANN, GUTMANN, SCHLOSS, SCHMALBACH
(Schwanfeld); LONNERSTAEDTER (Hassfurt)


German SIG #Germany Wuerzburg Commemorative Event SITE CITE #germany

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz331@...>
 

Dear SIGgers,
I've recently received emails announcing an official event in
Wuerzburg, commemorating the deportation of Jewish citizens in
April-May, 1942. The Lord Mayor of the city will be one of the
sponsors of this event, in which townspeople will carry plaques with
the names of the deported along the routes to the train station, the
last stop in Wuerzburg, this coming May 10. This website,
http://www.wir-wollen-uns-erinnern.de/, lists names and brief
biographical information for the deported, under category 3,
"Deportation," and offers a way to sign up to make the virtual walk.
(English version is limited.) I found one "new" relative on this site,
with a small glitch in her mother's birthdate. I would be happy to provide
the emails of the people who contacted me, in response to private requests.

Judith Berlowitz, Oakland, California @judithb

Recent research: GATTMANN, GUTMANN, SCHLOSS, SCHMALBACH
(Schwanfeld); LONNERSTAEDTER (Hassfurt)


Seeking your donation to the GerSIG Speaker Bureau #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Dear GerSiggers,

As you are probably already aware, expert historian, Gerhard Buck,
will be the honoured GerSIG Guest Speaker and research consultant
during the IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington DC in
August, 2011.

GerSIG now needs your financial support to make this a reality.
Please make a donation now to the GerSIG Speaker Bureau by clicking:
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=13

Mr. Buck is flying >from Germany to the US specifically for this
conference and will be present throughout the event. He is speaking
twice during the conference and will also be available as a resource
to conference attendees throughout the week, >from Sunday (in the SIG
Fair) right through to the end of the conference on Friday.

Thanks

Jeanette Rosenberg and Nancy Adelson
GerSIG Directors; Conference and Event Planning
London, UK and Seattle, WA
@JeanetteRRosenbergOBE and nancyadelson@...


German SIG #Germany Seeking your donation to the GerSIG Speaker Bureau #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Dear GerSiggers,

As you are probably already aware, expert historian, Gerhard Buck,
will be the honoured GerSIG Guest Speaker and research consultant
during the IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington DC in
August, 2011.

GerSIG now needs your financial support to make this a reality.
Please make a donation now to the GerSIG Speaker Bureau by clicking:
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=13

Mr. Buck is flying >from Germany to the US specifically for this
conference and will be present throughout the event. He is speaking
twice during the conference and will also be available as a resource
to conference attendees throughout the week, >from Sunday (in the SIG
Fair) right through to the end of the conference on Friday.

Thanks

Jeanette Rosenberg and Nancy Adelson
GerSIG Directors; Conference and Event Planning
London, UK and Seattle, WA
@JeanetteRRosenbergOBE and nancyadelson@...