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Re: Information for Tirgu Frumos #romania

saragal@...
 

Tirgu Frumos is less than 20 km >from Iasi where there is still
a Jewish comunity.
You might have information on Tirgu Frumos >from them at
<comunitatea.evreilor.iasi@...>.

The current president's of the jewish community name is
Abraham GHITELMAN. You may contact him in English.
Lisbeth Saraga
Id. 83058; France
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Subject: Anyone been to Tirgu Frumos?
From: dabronxgirl@...
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:26:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

I'm heading there in late summer and wonder if there is anything left
of the Jewish community, any Jews living there, must-see sites, etc.?
My great-grandmother left there with my infant grandfather in 1900 so
not expecting much.
Thanks.


Romania SIG #Romania RE: Information for Tirgu Frumos #romania

saragal@...
 

Tirgu Frumos is less than 20 km >from Iasi where there is still
a Jewish comunity.
You might have information on Tirgu Frumos >from them at
<comunitatea.evreilor.iasi@...>.

The current president's of the jewish community name is
Abraham GHITELMAN. You may contact him in English.
Lisbeth Saraga
Id. 83058; France
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Subject: Anyone been to Tirgu Frumos?
From: dabronxgirl@...
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:26:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

I'm heading there in late summer and wonder if there is anything left
of the Jewish community, any Jews living there, must-see sites, etc.?
My great-grandmother left there with my infant grandfather in 1900 so
not expecting much.
Thanks.


Records available in Moscow #general

Nancy A. Parkes <n.parkes@...>
 

My son will be going to his Russian language school in Moscow this summer.
I am wondering if there are key records available there, such as internal
passports, that might help clarify fuzzy information on family members there
that left in the late 1890s >from areas that are now in the Ukraine. My
understanding is that there may be either records for internal travel,
census, etc. One family is on the Duma list for that time period.

Please feel free to respond to me privately or publicly only if it is of use to
others. My son reads and speaks Russian fairly fluently, yet is naturally
hesitant to do "genealogical research," for which he has no training.
Thank you.

Nancy A. Parkes
Researching: PATCHERSKY or PECHERSKY, VEINGAUS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records available in Moscow #general

Nancy A. Parkes <n.parkes@...>
 

My son will be going to his Russian language school in Moscow this summer.
I am wondering if there are key records available there, such as internal
passports, that might help clarify fuzzy information on family members there
that left in the late 1890s >from areas that are now in the Ukraine. My
understanding is that there may be either records for internal travel,
census, etc. One family is on the Duma list for that time period.

Please feel free to respond to me privately or publicly only if it is of use to
others. My son reads and speaks Russian fairly fluently, yet is naturally
hesitant to do "genealogical research," for which he has no training.
Thank you.

Nancy A. Parkes
Researching: PATCHERSKY or PECHERSKY, VEINGAUS


Leaving Russia In 1914 #general

Sallie Posniak <sallieposniak@...>
 

My father left Russia >from Germany in August, 1914.
He was aboard a ship [I assume, German but don't know for certain] on the
day that WW1 broke out. He and all passengers were transferred >from that
ship to another.

I don't know the name of the first ship?
I don't know the name of the second ship?
I don't know which German port he left from?
What port the ship arrived?
How long a trip would take?

Is there anyone else who has the same problem with a family member?
I would appreciate any advice.
Thank you

Sallie Posniak


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Leaving Russia In 1914 #general

Sallie Posniak <sallieposniak@...>
 

My father left Russia >from Germany in August, 1914.
He was aboard a ship [I assume, German but don't know for certain] on the
day that WW1 broke out. He and all passengers were transferred >from that
ship to another.

I don't know the name of the first ship?
I don't know the name of the second ship?
I don't know which German port he left from?
What port the ship arrived?
How long a trip would take?

Is there anyone else who has the same problem with a family member?
I would appreciate any advice.
Thank you

Sallie Posniak


Re: conscription in Poland? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay wrote

According to his official birth certificate, my great-uncle was born in
Lodz, Poland, in 1921. However, he claims that this should actually be
1925 and that the Polish clerks regularly "made boys look older than they
really were so they could draft them into the army". The birth certificate
not only says he was born in 1921, but the document itself is dated 1921,
and I am wondering whether a clerk could have forged the registration date
as well as the birth date. Clearly, whether he was born in 1921 or in
1925, my great-uncle is no spring chicken, but is there anything in what
he said about making boys seem older in order to draft them? Also, can
anyone tell me if Poland had compulsory military service in the
1920's/30's? If so, what were the conditions? (Were Jews drafted? For how
long? >from what age? etc.)

Military service in the interwar Poland was compulsory for the all male
citizens at age 18.

Service lasted 18 months, and only exemptions were granted for the medical
reasons, and for the youngsters completing high school (they would be
drafted a year later) or entering universities, where military training was
also conducted on a limited basis.

Clerk could not make recruits look younger or older.

Conscription committee extracted young people eligible for the military
service >from the citizens evidence registry.

If your great uncle was registered as born in 1921, he would be called in
1939 to show up in front of the recruiting commitee for the medical
examinations to establish his eligibility for the service.

If he was born, as he claimed in 1925, he would not be called up till age
18, and no clerk could forge his birth cerificate.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: conscription in Poland? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay wrote

According to his official birth certificate, my great-uncle was born in
Lodz, Poland, in 1921. However, he claims that this should actually be
1925 and that the Polish clerks regularly "made boys look older than they
really were so they could draft them into the army". The birth certificate
not only says he was born in 1921, but the document itself is dated 1921,
and I am wondering whether a clerk could have forged the registration date
as well as the birth date. Clearly, whether he was born in 1921 or in
1925, my great-uncle is no spring chicken, but is there anything in what
he said about making boys seem older in order to draft them? Also, can
anyone tell me if Poland had compulsory military service in the
1920's/30's? If so, what were the conditions? (Were Jews drafted? For how
long? >from what age? etc.)

Military service in the interwar Poland was compulsory for the all male
citizens at age 18.

Service lasted 18 months, and only exemptions were granted for the medical
reasons, and for the youngsters completing high school (they would be
drafted a year later) or entering universities, where military training was
also conducted on a limited basis.

Clerk could not make recruits look younger or older.

Conscription committee extracted young people eligible for the military
service >from the citizens evidence registry.

If your great uncle was registered as born in 1921, he would be called in
1939 to show up in front of the recruiting commitee for the medical
examinations to establish his eligibility for the service.

If he was born, as he claimed in 1925, he would not be called up till age
18, and no clerk could forge his birth cerificate.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


Re: Help with Lithuanian town name #general

boris
 

"...Rai? Rei? Does anyone have a clue what this town could be?.."

David,

Your ancestors may have played a joke on you. The words 'rai' means
'paradise' in Russian. Most likely, it was the town of Druskieniki (Polish)
which is called Druskininkai (Lithuanian) today. It was popular among the
Jews; there were even a few so called sanatoriums there, owned by Jewish
doctors. No beach, but beautiful pine forests.

Boris Feldblyum
boris@...
Potomac, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Help with Lithuanian town name #general

boris
 

"...Rai? Rei? Does anyone have a clue what this town could be?.."

David,

Your ancestors may have played a joke on you. The words 'rai' means
'paradise' in Russian. Most likely, it was the town of Druskieniki (Polish)
which is called Druskininkai (Lithuanian) today. It was popular among the
Jews; there were even a few so called sanatoriums there, owned by Jewish
doctors. No beach, but beautiful pine forests.

Boris Feldblyum
boris@...
Potomac, MD


RECKENBERG in South Africa #general

Beverley Davis
 

I would be very grateful for any suggestions as to how I can find records
of the arrival, marriage and death in South Africa of my husband's
great-aunt, Hilda Carmen (or Carmain) MAX, who went to Johannesburg by
herself (don't know why!) and was married after 1905 (the date on a
photograph sent back to her family in Australia with her maiden name) to a
(presumably) non-Jewish man named William Augustus Francis RECKENBERG. She
was still living in 1948 (mentioned in her aunt's Will). As far as we know,
she had no children. Couldn't find her burial record in Jewish sources.

Beverley Davis in Melbourne, Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RECKENBERG in South Africa #general

Beverley Davis
 

I would be very grateful for any suggestions as to how I can find records
of the arrival, marriage and death in South Africa of my husband's
great-aunt, Hilda Carmen (or Carmain) MAX, who went to Johannesburg by
herself (don't know why!) and was married after 1905 (the date on a
photograph sent back to her family in Australia with her maiden name) to a
(presumably) non-Jewish man named William Augustus Francis RECKENBERG. She
was still living in 1948 (mentioned in her aunt's Will). As far as we know,
she had no children. Couldn't find her burial record in Jewish sources.

Beverley Davis in Melbourne, Australia


Lists of Jewish Births #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,

There are 55 lists of Jewish births (last names + initials) that
can be found at a Russian language forum website >from the State
Archives of Sumy:

http://r-g-d.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14376&st=0

Use an online translator to read (in English) the information:

The lists are >from the following areas:
Chernigov Province, Sumy region, Boromlyansky and Krasnopolsky
Districts, Konotop, Romni, Esbudar, Glukov, Bahmach, Haivoron,
Deptovka, Dmitrovka, Karabutovo, Shostka, Voronezh Glukhovski
District, Novgorod-Seversky, Kh-Mykhailivskyy, Ponornitsky District,
Putivl, Semyonov District, Mid-Budsky District, Evpatoria, Crimea,
Kherson, Krolevets & Krolevets county,Bilopillia, Lebedin,
Sumy county,Lokotskaya parish Glukhovski county,Lebedin, Dmitrovka
Konotop District, Linden Valley, Rusanovskaya parish, Kazakhstan,
Saratov, Chelyabinsk, Golensky parish, Deptovskaya parish, Gadyach,
Hlyns'k, Zasule, Lokhvytsya, Talalayivka, Hop, Bahmach, Borzna,
Dmitrovka, Corop, Sosnitsa, Borzna, Bahmach, Koryukovskaya District,
Exchange,Sosnitsky District, Putivl, Esman, Jampol, Baturin, Burin,
Dmitrovka, Nizhin, Gadyach.

Marilyn Robinson
Palm Beach County, Florida


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Lists of Jewish Births #ukraine

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,

There are 55 lists of Jewish births (last names + initials) that
can be found at a Russian language forum website >from the State
Archives of Sumy:

http://r-g-d.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14376&st=0

Use an online translator to read (in English) the information:

The lists are >from the following areas:
Chernigov Province, Sumy region, Boromlyansky and Krasnopolsky
Districts, Konotop, Romni, Esbudar, Glukov, Bahmach, Haivoron,
Deptovka, Dmitrovka, Karabutovo, Shostka, Voronezh Glukhovski
District, Novgorod-Seversky, Kh-Mykhailivskyy, Ponornitsky District,
Putivl, Semyonov District, Mid-Budsky District, Evpatoria, Crimea,
Kherson, Krolevets & Krolevets county,Bilopillia, Lebedin,
Sumy county,Lokotskaya parish Glukhovski county,Lebedin, Dmitrovka
Konotop District, Linden Valley, Rusanovskaya parish, Kazakhstan,
Saratov, Chelyabinsk, Golensky parish, Deptovskaya parish, Gadyach,
Hlyns'k, Zasule, Lokhvytsya, Talalayivka, Hop, Bahmach, Borzna,
Dmitrovka, Corop, Sosnitsa, Borzna, Bahmach, Koryukovskaya District,
Exchange,Sosnitsky District, Putivl, Esman, Jampol, Baturin, Burin,
Dmitrovka, Nizhin, Gadyach.

Marilyn Robinson
Palm Beach County, Florida


FW: Lovinger Family in Fulek #hungary

Niftee
 

Would anyone know how I could find possible birth records for the
Lovinger Family in Fulek? Back in 1901 and 1907

Elissa Boyet
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Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Lovinger Family in Fulek #hungary

Niftee
 

Would anyone know how I could find possible birth records for the
Lovinger Family in Fulek? Back in 1901 and 1907

Elissa Boyet
=


Shipping records from Genoa to Cape Town #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

The SA Jewish Board of Deputies had lists of refugees, and some
shipping lists but to my knowledge these were almost all >from Germany.

Very few refugees were allowed into South Africa.

To search for an individual start with the National Archives of South
Africa, all Archives repositories http://tinyurl.com/62tgp4o

The Holocaust related material >from the SA Board of deputies was
microfilmed a few years ago and a copy was given to United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum. see www.ushmm.org archival collections
http://tinyurl.com/6dhcxrv

RG-78.001M
Records of the South African Jewish Board of Deputies, 1900-1986
RG-11.001M.52
Records of the Committee for Jewish Refugee Assistance HICEM,
Zagreb (Fond 1430), 1933-1940

You may have to get a professional researcher.

Saul Issroff
(LONDON)

<<Jews leaving Europe in 1938 via Genoa
From: "Martin and Ruth Levit" <martin.ruth@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011ruth levitt asked re accessing the
shipping records >from Genoa to Cape Town in 1938, and whether there are any
records of refugees arriving in Cape Town>>

Saul Issroff


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Shipping records from Genoa to Cape Town #southafrica

Saul Issroff
 

The SA Jewish Board of Deputies had lists of refugees, and some
shipping lists but to my knowledge these were almost all >from Germany.

Very few refugees were allowed into South Africa.

To search for an individual start with the National Archives of South
Africa, all Archives repositories http://tinyurl.com/62tgp4o

The Holocaust related material >from the SA Board of deputies was
microfilmed a few years ago and a copy was given to United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum. see www.ushmm.org archival collections
http://tinyurl.com/6dhcxrv

RG-78.001M
Records of the South African Jewish Board of Deputies, 1900-1986
RG-11.001M.52
Records of the Committee for Jewish Refugee Assistance HICEM,
Zagreb (Fond 1430), 1933-1940

You may have to get a professional researcher.

Saul Issroff
(LONDON)

<<Jews leaving Europe in 1938 via Genoa
From: "Martin and Ruth Levit" <martin.ruth@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011ruth levitt asked re accessing the
shipping records >from Genoa to Cape Town in 1938, and whether there are any
records of refugees arriving in Cape Town>>

Saul Issroff


Memorials for Vanished Communities #poland

rosef@...
 

With Yom Hashoah approaching (the memorial day for the Holocaust) the
Israel Genealogical Society invites you to visit our collection of
pictures of memorials through out Israel. We have almost 2,000 listed:
memorials inside and outside of cemeteries, synagogues, and more. The
database can be search by town, region, country, or location in Israel.

http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/473/5806.asp

Rose Feldman
IGS webmistress
http://www.isragen.org.il
keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general with
http://twitter.com/isragen


JRI Poland #Poland Memorials for Vanished Communities #poland

rosef@...
 

With Yom Hashoah approaching (the memorial day for the Holocaust) the
Israel Genealogical Society invites you to visit our collection of
pictures of memorials through out Israel. We have almost 2,000 listed:
memorials inside and outside of cemeteries, synagogues, and more. The
database can be search by town, region, country, or location in Israel.

http://www.isragen.org.il/siteFiles/1/473/5806.asp

Rose Feldman
IGS webmistress
http://www.isragen.org.il
keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general with
http://twitter.com/isragen