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Re: Stanley Diamond lecture on DNA-assisted discoveries #dna #poland

Lee Hover
 

I assume that is eastern time, and so would be 4:30 Pacific time.  Am I correct in that assumption?

Lee MESSING  Hover
Lacey, WA


Re: Looking for record leads for ZYLBERMAN from 1850s-1860s in Wyszkow in Poland/Russia #poland #russia

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello Debbie,

It may be the case, perhaps even likely, that the 'proof' you're seeking will not be forthcoming.  In these cases, as genealogists we need to make a determination based on an exhaustive search of the available records and the weight of the evidence.  Since vital records do not exist for the time period you're seeking, we need to look for substitutes.  For Wyszkow, it appears that marriage alegata are available which sometimes include birth or other supplemental records for the parties in the marriage.  If you can find those for the people in question, they may provide additional information.

If you haven't already, you should try to locate the death records for these presumed siblings as those may have their parents' names.  Sometimes death records of parents will name the children or at least give the number of living children--it appears that Ajzyk died in 1883 and Chaja Sura in 1884 so you should get those records translated if you haven't already.

In cases like these, I've also used Ashkenazic naming traditions to substantiate a theory of shared ancestry.  If these presumed siblings all have children or grandchildren with the given names Ajzyk and Chaja Sura, it's likely they were named after shared ancestors.  For example, it appears that Abram Josek had a delayed 1898 birth registration for a daughter named Chaja Sura.

Finally, I would suggest contacting the JRI-Poland Town Leader to see if he has any additional information or suggestions . . . I know he has been active on this forum in the past.

Hopefully this helps!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL


Re: meaning of the word "molitor" #names

Eric M. Bloch
 

A molitor in Latin can also refer to a miller.

Eric M. Bloch
Milwaukee, WI


Mt. Zion Cemetery request #usa

Janis and Joe Datz
 

At anyone's convenience, may I get a photo of the following headstones please.  Many thanks in advance.

GOLDIE DATZ

BIRTH.  9 Jul 1904
DEATH 6 Apr 1915 (aged 10)

PLOT Society: WORKMENS; Path:43R; Row:54; Grave:1

MARY DATZ

BIRTH unknown
DEATH23 May 1938

PLOT Society.:WILKOMIRER; Path:41R; Gate:9; Row:1; Grave: 1 RS

Janis Datz
jjdatz@...


Re: Resources for Jewish Refugees who went to Uruguay #lodz

David Jacobowitz
 

I also found the manifest in a different color on FamilySearch. Rela Wilczynski was indexed as Rola, which I corrected.
Then this image from JOINT showed up, with Rela accompanied by Josef and Jacob Wilczynski. Thank you for the encouragement and help.  David Jacobowitz (Cousin by marriage  of Rosita Bar-Yaakov.)


Re: Resources for Jewish Refugees who went to Uruguay #lodz

YOEL437@...
 

DRORI  YOEL  
POLIN  TOWN  SOMPOLNO  REGION  LODZ  FAMILII  WILCZYNSKI
    YAD  VASHEM  IRUZALIM 
      לדוד  שלום  
   יד  ושם  בארכיון   יש  13  דפה  עד   על  משפחת  ווילצ'נסקי  עים  שם  משפחה ו כתובת  
       JOSE  WILCZYNSKI    
       גר  בישראל    מסר  בדפה   עד    שמות  של  אחים  שלו ו אחיות  שניספו  בשואה 
            מוכן  להמשיך  לעזור
           DRORI  YOEL  . YOEL437@...
      
    


#poland #events #poland #events

Walter Rosenthal
 

 #event
Finding Our Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI Poland”. JewishGen of Palm Beach County presents a virtual lecture by Robinn Magid on December 9 at 1:00 PM ET US and Canada. December meeting free to all. Contact for links: waltrose864@...

Walter Rosenthal


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #poland

Bruce Drake
 

Many Yizkor books have portraits of humble people who are unlettered, poor, mocked and who eke out their living in the lowliest professions. But over their lives, they prove their worth, and even mark those lives with acts of nobility. Such is the case with Noyke, the title character of this excerpt from the Yizkor book of Wyszkow, Poland.
Noyke was a “simpleton,” could not read a single letter of Hebrew and often the target of derision (not to mention a beating) from young people. But when the town came under attack by German planes, it was Noyke who “ran through the streets and shouted: ‘Jews, save yourselves! Jews! Jews! Save yourselves!’”
And he ended his life as a hero.


Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Fw: Survivor testimony #holocaust

paveanyu@...
 

Dear Mr. Lande                                                                                                                          20th November 2020

I wonder, I am thankful,  if either you or if anybody else could assist.

I have read a 'Testimony  -- I think it was, may have been  written in 2018?  [  Online--(unfortunately I cannot locate it)

The  'testimony''  is about the painful escape of a Lady--young girl--giving her name as  Chani? or Chavi?  Blau from ABAUJSZANTO --Hungary

I understood from her 'movingly recorded lived experiences .---that she was from Abaujszanto---and presently married to a Mr. KEMENY---
if my recollection is accurate  living in the USA.

As my own late mother    Gabriella--Esther--Biederman  was from Abaujszanto--it triggered in me a lot of memories.

I contacted a Mr Lazer/Gusztav Blau  --  who is also from Abaujszanto  in case  He knows her---unfortunately I do not have enough details.

I would be extremely thankful, if anybody knows Mr and Mrs Kemeny to inform them, I would love to connect with them

Wishing Everybody at Jewish Gen a lovely Guth Shabboth ---countless Shabbothim--in excellent health

Veronika Pachtinger
London UK--daughter of Gabriella Biederman--from Abaujszanto

please, if possible e-mail me direct to :paveanyu@...
Thank you



Re: Margolioth/Margulies rabbinic family from Galicia #rabbinic #galicia

David Shapiro
 

R. Wunder does not give any other information on R. Yosef Yoska, neither in Elef Margolios nor in Meorei Galicia (where he gives the same information). In M.G in the entry on R. Alexander Sender he mentions that his son R. Yosef was rov of Zmygrod (after his brother . Yehudah Aryeh Leibish), but makes no connection to Zbaraz. Apparently he had not further information to identify R. Yosef Yoska. It would be interesting to know his source for the Czortkov documents.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Re: Translation request - Polish to English #translation #poland

Kris Murawski
 

These two handwritten pages are identical with typewritten page 6, a testimony about Dr. Andrzej Trojanowski. By the way, after the war Dr. Trojanowski was a director of the Institute of Hematology in Warsaw (1953-1964). He was recognized by Yad Vashem as a Righteous  Among the Nations.
--
Kris Murawski
Raleigh, North Carolina
krismurawski24@...


Re: GARTSTEIN from Novofastov, Ukraine #general

mvayser@...
 

Hello Elena,
To clarify geography of Novofastov.
Prior to 1922 Novofastov was part of Skvira uezd in Kiev gubernia.  It didn't become part of Vinnitsa oblast until 1938.

The last name you are looking for is Garshteyn, not Garstein.
There is a possibility that Novofastov 1897 census records will be available soon, but only a small portion of the Skvira uezd records have been uploaded by Alex Krakovksy at the moment.  The only one I see listed for Novofastov is DAKO 384-10-69, so, hopefully, your relatives are listed in this document.

1875 recruit census does include your relatives, but only includes males.  The following information was found in DAKO archive's 12-3-591 document.  No one with Lurie last name is listed in Novofastov, but again, this is only a recruit census and not a complete census of this town.

In town of Novofastov
#21 Garshteyn Moshko s.o. Gershko - 58 y.o
#22 Garshteyn Meer-Khaim s.o. Moshko - 59, his 2nd son Mortko - 18
#23 Gorshteyn Ben s.o. Gershko - 51, his son Gershko - 30, Mortko (son of Gershko) - 7, Ios (son of Ben) - 22, Moshko (son of Ben) - 14, Khaim-Ovsiy (son of Ben) - 9
#45 Garsheyn Ios-Gersh s.o Meer-Khaim - 27, his sons Leyba - 4, Aril - 2, Shaya - 1
 
Outside of Novofastov - village Babin
#52 Garshteyn Gershko s.o. Moshko - 31, his son Shapsha - 7
 
In addition to this, there are metrical records available from 1857 to 1864, as well as 1795, 1850, and 1858 census records.  It all depends what information you are looking for.

Mike Vayser


Re: Hebrew translation request #translation

yitschok@...
 

The groom is Dan Kalbo son of Avraham Yaakov 
The date on the back is Wednesday, week of Reah 5664 (August 3 1904)
--
Yitschok Margareten


Re: Hebrew translation request #translation

David Shapiro
 


That is correct, and the name of the groom is Dan Eliyahu (the second name is not clear) son of Avraham Yaakov.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Re: Gesher Galicia SIG Yizkor Book Project, October 2013 #yizkorbooks #galicia

Steven Turner
 

It lookls like JewishGen is working on it. https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kuty/kuty.html  I see the Table of Contents and the Martyr page are done but the rest is not clickable. The NYPL does not have a translated copy. Maybe write JewishGen and find out the status.

Steve


Re: Minsk Jewish names, #names #belarus

mvayser@...
 

Efraim,
That is not correct.  You are thinking of modern Russian patronymics.  However, if you examine 18-19th century records, you will see both types being used.  Source: I've transcribed and examined tens of thousands of 18th through early 20th century records.

Mike Vayser


Re: meaning of the word "molitor" #names

Friedrich L.
 

Aline,
Molitor in Latin means organizer, builder, originator.
Best regards
Friedrich Lehmkühler


Re: Margolioth/Margulies rabbinic family from Galicia #rabbinic #galicia

Yohanan
 

Re surname MARGULIS / MARGALIOT, I wonder if any of the researchers encountered change of name to PERLMUTTER?
My grandmother maiden name was Perlmutter, from Bukowina / Galicia,  and her cousin once told me that it originated from MARGULIS.
We have no family legend about being connected to a Rabbinic dynasty though.

Yohanan Loeffler
Melbourne Australia


ViewMate translation request - Russian #latvia #translation

left twist
 

I request a translation of the Russian text of a Marriage record. It is on ViewMate at the following address

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM88603

 

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Howard Presser


Potok Zloty cemetery project-link correction #ukraine

Milton Koch
 

The previous email had an incorrect link to the photographs. The correct link is posted below.
 
I am undertaking an attempt to save and restore parts of this small 
cemetery in Potok Zloty-now Zolityi Potik (Ukraine).
There is a website from the Center for Jewish Art, in Jerusalem, with many pictures (pages) of matzevot from the old cemetery. The pictures are thumbnails, so asking for help with interpreting postings via Viewmate is not likely to be helpful due to poor quality of uploads.

I am attaching the link to the site with the entire collection of 
matzevot and some of them also have Hebrew translations.
https://cja.huji.ac.il/browser.phpmode=set&id=7516&sort=DESC&many=20&start=0

Please reply privately to me if you can help, advise, make any 
suggestions, etc.
Thank you very much.
Milton Koch
Bethesda, MD, USA
mjk1944@...