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Re: SOLOVEITCHIK family tree #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

We have a strong tradition in our family that we are descendant of
Reb. Chaim of Volozhin (or of his extended family). Most of the
"evidence" is based on rumor or stories. Let me share some of these
with you hoping that something may "ring a bell".

According to one story, an ancestress of our, supposedly a descendant
of the Volozhiners, was prphaned at a young age and R' Itzaleh was the
unteferin ( the man who took her to the chupa). In published sources
it does mention that R' Itzaleh had a married daughter (Landau_ and
that she and her husband passed away young leaving young orphans. The
trees that I have seen I haven't been able to make any connection but
I understand that in most trees only those who were Rabbies or married
to them are included and possibly my line weren't such.

My grandparent migrated >from Palestine to the USA in the 1920s, and
after a few years in Hartford they moved to New York, Washington
Heights, where R' Yosef Ber lived "to be close to their family". They
had moved to Hartford, as a cousin of theirs Rabbi Issac Simcha
Hurewitz was a Rabbi there. He is also listed in Neil Rosenstein's
"unbroken chain".

Another rumor has it that Rabbi Gimpel Yaffe, a student of Volozhin
and later a Rabbi in Eretz Yisrael in the beginning of the 20th cent.
supposedly told a cousin of our (then) that he "knows" that we are
descendant of Reb' Chaim of Volozhin.

According to a diary of a gggreatuncle of mine who immigrated to
Palestine/Eretz Yisrael at the end of the 19th cent. >from Karlin
(Pinsk) he mentions a certain Rabbi Mordechai who was the Rabbi (or Av
Bes Din) of Karlin who was a relative of theirs, but doesn't mention
how. This R' Mordechai, he states in his diary, was a Rabbi in
Rozinoi, before coming to Karlin. Researching the Rabbis of the
mid-19th cent. in Karlin and Pinsk my candidate is R' Mordehai
Zackheim. I haven't seen if there is a family connection between
Zackheim and the Volozhin and/or Soloveitchik family.

The family name of the gentleman >from Karlin who was presumably
married to a woman >from the Volozhin family was KANTOR ( or possibly
SHATZ) but this could be connected to his profession as a hazanin
Pinsk (Shat"z=Chanzan=Kantor??!!)

Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Denkers <spdenker@rcn.com> wrote:
I have just completed a diagram of the Rabbinic Soloveitchik family tree
from files I copied at the Hebrew University Library Archives 3 years ago.
They hold the genealogical collection of the late Rabbi Shmuel Gorr z"l. The
collection contains much original, unpublished material. We found the
Soloveitchik folder. It contains material to my knowledge that has not
appeared anywhere in print. Rabbi Gorr died in 1988. But he had not finished
analyzing his Soloveitchik material or drawing a complete family tree.

My goal is to see if my Soloveitchik family could be related and to give the
Rav Joseph HaLevi Soloveitchik's z"l school - Maimonides in Brookline - a
learning document.

My maternal, great-grandmother Goldie Soloveitchik Epstein was born in 1840.
Her father was Zalman Hirsh (Zvi) Soloveitchik. (Her husband was Shlomo
Simcha ben Moshe Hayim HaLevi Epstein.) In 1891 they emigrated >from Bobruisk
to New York City. My great grandparents, Rabbi Avraham Barukh Soloveitchik
z"l and Rabbi Yekhiel Mikhl Epstein z"l lived for a time in Bobruisk and
were all born about the same time. But I am unsure if we are >from the same
families. My grandmother's matseva does not say 'HaLevi'.

In Rosenstein's study - The Unbroken Chain - there is a family tree for the
Yeshiva of Volozhin that includes a Zalman and a Zvi Soloveitchik. Deborah
Reese has found a Zalman Soloveitchik ancestor in Igumen born before 1800.
Bobruisk and Igumen are not far apart.

If you know of anyone who is researching the Rabbinic Soloveitchik family
tree (I have those published in Rosenstein's book, Geni, Wikipedia and from
several JGFF correspondents), I would be grateful to hear >from you.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: SOLOVEITCHIK family tree #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

We have a strong tradition in our family that we are descendant of
Reb. Chaim of Volozhin (or of his extended family). Most of the
"evidence" is based on rumor or stories. Let me share some of these
with you hoping that something may "ring a bell".

According to one story, an ancestress of our, supposedly a descendant
of the Volozhiners, was prphaned at a young age and R' Itzaleh was the
unteferin ( the man who took her to the chupa). In published sources
it does mention that R' Itzaleh had a married daughter (Landau_ and
that she and her husband passed away young leaving young orphans. The
trees that I have seen I haven't been able to make any connection but
I understand that in most trees only those who were Rabbies or married
to them are included and possibly my line weren't such.

My grandparent migrated >from Palestine to the USA in the 1920s, and
after a few years in Hartford they moved to New York, Washington
Heights, where R' Yosef Ber lived "to be close to their family". They
had moved to Hartford, as a cousin of theirs Rabbi Issac Simcha
Hurewitz was a Rabbi there. He is also listed in Neil Rosenstein's
"unbroken chain".

Another rumor has it that Rabbi Gimpel Yaffe, a student of Volozhin
and later a Rabbi in Eretz Yisrael in the beginning of the 20th cent.
supposedly told a cousin of our (then) that he "knows" that we are
descendant of Reb' Chaim of Volozhin.

According to a diary of a gggreatuncle of mine who immigrated to
Palestine/Eretz Yisrael at the end of the 19th cent. >from Karlin
(Pinsk) he mentions a certain Rabbi Mordechai who was the Rabbi (or Av
Bes Din) of Karlin who was a relative of theirs, but doesn't mention
how. This R' Mordechai, he states in his diary, was a Rabbi in
Rozinoi, before coming to Karlin. Researching the Rabbis of the
mid-19th cent. in Karlin and Pinsk my candidate is R' Mordehai
Zackheim. I haven't seen if there is a family connection between
Zackheim and the Volozhin and/or Soloveitchik family.

The family name of the gentleman >from Karlin who was presumably
married to a woman >from the Volozhin family was KANTOR ( or possibly
SHATZ) but this could be connected to his profession as a hazanin
Pinsk (Shat"z=Chanzan=Kantor??!!)

Shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Denkers <spdenker@rcn.com> wrote:
I have just completed a diagram of the Rabbinic Soloveitchik family tree
from files I copied at the Hebrew University Library Archives 3 years ago.
They hold the genealogical collection of the late Rabbi Shmuel Gorr z"l. The
collection contains much original, unpublished material. We found the
Soloveitchik folder. It contains material to my knowledge that has not
appeared anywhere in print. Rabbi Gorr died in 1988. But he had not finished
analyzing his Soloveitchik material or drawing a complete family tree.

My goal is to see if my Soloveitchik family could be related and to give the
Rav Joseph HaLevi Soloveitchik's z"l school - Maimonides in Brookline - a
learning document.

My maternal, great-grandmother Goldie Soloveitchik Epstein was born in 1840.
Her father was Zalman Hirsh (Zvi) Soloveitchik. (Her husband was Shlomo
Simcha ben Moshe Hayim HaLevi Epstein.) In 1891 they emigrated >from Bobruisk
to New York City. My great grandparents, Rabbi Avraham Barukh Soloveitchik
z"l and Rabbi Yekhiel Mikhl Epstein z"l lived for a time in Bobruisk and
were all born about the same time. But I am unsure if we are >from the same
families. My grandmother's matseva does not say 'HaLevi'.

In Rosenstein's study - The Unbroken Chain - there is a family tree for the
Yeshiva of Volozhin that includes a Zalman and a Zvi Soloveitchik. Deborah
Reese has found a Zalman Soloveitchik ancestor in Igumen born before 1800.
Bobruisk and Igumen are not far apart.

If you know of anyone who is researching the Rabbinic Soloveitchik family
tree (I have those published in Rosenstein's book, Geni, Wikipedia and from
several JGFF correspondents), I would be grateful to hear >from you.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


Contact Information For Werner ZOLKI in Sweden #scandinavia

Marcy Greene <greenemarcy@...>
 

Just wondering if anybody knows or remembers a Werner ZOLKI who
wrote A Page Of Testimony at Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum for his
mother, Margarethe Zolki nee THORN who perished in Breslau,Germany
during the Holocaust. Werner submitted the Page Of Testimony in
1987, and he was living on Lostigen street or avenue in Solna,
Sweden.I am hoping to speak with Werner Zolki and or any other
members of his Zolki family who may have some information about
his mother's Thorn family who I am related to.Also,if it is not
too much trouble,I would appreciate very much if some kind soul
could look up the Swedish telephone directory to see if Werner
Zolki is listed, as well as, any other Zolki's and send me the
phone numbers.I have tried repeatedly to get the Swedish telephone
directory online with no sucess.Thank you everybody for taking the
time to read my e-mail and looking forward to hearing >from you.
All the best,
David Feder
St.John's,Newfoundland,Canada


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Contact Information For Werner ZOLKI in Sweden #scandinavia

Marcy Greene <greenemarcy@...>
 

Just wondering if anybody knows or remembers a Werner ZOLKI who
wrote A Page Of Testimony at Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum for his
mother, Margarethe Zolki nee THORN who perished in Breslau,Germany
during the Holocaust. Werner submitted the Page Of Testimony in
1987, and he was living on Lostigen street or avenue in Solna,
Sweden.I am hoping to speak with Werner Zolki and or any other
members of his Zolki family who may have some information about
his mother's Thorn family who I am related to.Also,if it is not
too much trouble,I would appreciate very much if some kind soul
could look up the Swedish telephone directory to see if Werner
Zolki is listed, as well as, any other Zolki's and send me the
phone numbers.I have tried repeatedly to get the Swedish telephone
directory online with no sucess.Thank you everybody for taking the
time to read my e-mail and looking forward to hearing >from you.
All the best,
David Feder
St.John's,Newfoundland,Canada


ViewMate translation request - Hebrew #general

Sherri Bobish
 

Dear Genners,

Posted on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=19051

It is >from October 1945, The Bronx, NY.

Several people have been unable to read the name written for my husband's mother.

Any thoughts?

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: BOBISH, Odessa
SAKOLSKY, Grodek (Bialystok)
RATOWSKY, Ariogala, Lith.
LEFFENFELD, Daliowa, Pol.
WALZMAN, WALTZMAN, Istryker (Ustrzyki Dolne) Pol.
BOJDA, Tarnobrzeg, Pol.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Hebrew #general

Sherri Bobish
 

Dear Genners,

Posted on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=19051

It is >from October 1945, The Bronx, NY.

Several people have been unable to read the name written for my husband's mother.

Any thoughts?

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Searching: BOBISH, Odessa
SAKOLSKY, Grodek (Bialystok)
RATOWSKY, Ariogala, Lith.
LEFFENFELD, Daliowa, Pol.
WALZMAN, WALTZMAN, Istryker (Ustrzyki Dolne) Pol.
BOJDA, Tarnobrzeg, Pol.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Watch TV Interview of DC2011 Conference Co-Chairs #general

31st IAJGS Conference <dc2011_conference@...>
 

A lively preview of the 31st IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy recently was taped for airing on the Internet and broadcast on the
Fairfax, Va., cable TV show "Tracing Your Family Roots," with host Arline
Sachs. Conference Co-chairs Marlene Katz Bishow, Victor Cohen and Susan
Isman chatted with Arline about the program, hotel & food, and technology
for the forthcoming conference.

To see the interview (about 27 minutes in length), go to the DC2011 home
page at dc2011.org and click on the photo taken during the interview.

Looking forward to seeing you in August in DC.

Regards,
Marlene Katz Bishow
Vic Cohen
Sue Isman
Co-Chairs
31st IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Watch TV Interview of DC2011 Conference Co-Chairs #general

31st IAJGS Conference <dc2011_conference@...>
 

A lively preview of the 31st IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy recently was taped for airing on the Internet and broadcast on the
Fairfax, Va., cable TV show "Tracing Your Family Roots," with host Arline
Sachs. Conference Co-chairs Marlene Katz Bishow, Victor Cohen and Susan
Isman chatted with Arline about the program, hotel & food, and technology
for the forthcoming conference.

To see the interview (about 27 minutes in length), go to the DC2011 home
page at dc2011.org and click on the photo taken during the interview.

Looking forward to seeing you in August in DC.

Regards,
Marlene Katz Bishow
Vic Cohen
Sue Isman
Co-Chairs
31st IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy


Jelgava birth and death records 1874. #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Jelgava marriage records 1866. #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jelgava birth and death records 1874. #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jelgava marriage records 1866. #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Update to the JewishGen All Hungarian Database #romania

samara99@...
 

I am pleased to announce a major update to the JewishGen All-Hungarian
Database (AHD).

This update, of approximately 150,000 records, brings the total number of
vital records (births, marriages and deaths) to over a half million, and the
total database, which also includes census and other type of records, to
over 1.1 million records.

The current update includes:

All remaining records for Szeged, for a total of 23,000.

57,000 Pest death records. This completes all vital records for Pest, about
155,000 records.

32,000 records for Bihar county (now in Romania). The majority are for
Nagyvarad / Oradea. For Oradea, we have transcribed 45 or 55 "Jewish"
registers. The other 10 are in "restoration" and are not currently available
nor is a firm date known for when "restoration" will be completed. The Bihar
records, some of which are 20th century records, include Oradea, Beius,
Alasd, Adoni, Valea lui Mihai, Simian, Silindru, Galospetreu, Piscolt, and
Marghita.

5,000 records for Nagy-Mihaly / Michalovce, believed to be the only vital
records available >from this town.

Lackenbach, Mako, Baja, and Trencin.

Homonna records not available >from LDS.

As a result of the incredible efforts of Marelynn Zipser, 21,000 Poszony /
Bratislava records, bringing the total for this town to 28,000.

These accomplishments are due to a group of people who have dedicated
themselves to preserving our heritage. They include:

Eva Abraham, Miry Abramovich, Susan Ades, Roger Adler, Tomas Adler, Ann
Armoza, Peter Bakos, Mary Blumenstein, Jenny Brichta, Anne Buchanan, Shari
and Asher Buxbaum, Martin Cohn, Gizella Czene, Wolf-Erich Eckstein, Marlene
Elster, Jackie Erdos, Sylvia Fenton, Sarah Feuerstein, Bob Fisch, Catarina
Fischer, Yaacov Fried, George Gelb, Susan Geroe, Sam Glaser, Ava Gorkin,
Ivan Greenhut, Imre Grosz, Peter Gyrenes, Tamas Hajdu, Bob Hanscom, Pamela
Hayter, Andrew Hegedus, Agi Herman, Andreas Hirschler, Sara Israeli, Susan
Kalish, Gary Katz, Gene Katz, Karen Katz, Yocheved Klausner, Larry Kohn,
Ilan Kozma, Vera Kwait, Margarita Lacko, Miriam Laska, David Laufer, Esther
Levinson, Diane Lazaar, Lois Levick, Julie Lockwood, Marianne Lods, Yohanan
Loeffler, Susan Martin, Alex Miller, Ron Miller, Judi Gyori Missel, Laszlo
Oberlander, Jackie Pataki, Judy Petersen, Susie Phillips, Andy Roth, Andrew
& Judith Sanders, Charlene Segot, Anne Selikov, Pat Shaw, Lynne Steensma,
Steve Stein, Peter Stern, Judith Steuer, Jennifer Strike, Mark Suss, George
Urban, Susana Vendel, Barbara Wasser, Karen Weinberg, Judy Kloogman
Weinstein, Ruben Weiser, Henry Wellisch, Marelynn Zipser, Daniel Zur

If you would like to express your appreciation to the transcribers, you
could do so by sending an email to the subject of "The Transcribers" on the
H-SIG email list. If you would like to make a more concrete expression of
your appreciation, a donation to JewishGen at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ would be both welcome and help
JewishGen continue to provide these important services.

Everyone should be reminded that these are index records and omit what can
be crucial information. You should always go to the source image record if
possible.
Approximately 50,000 records are not readily available publicly, if at all.
These records can be identified by the Source indicating the record is from
the "SA Ujhely Archives" or the "Bihar Archives" or similar. The source
images for those records can be obtained for a nominal fee >from the H-SIG
"Records Librarian," a new position held by Bobby Furst at
bobby1st@gmail.com.

I frequently get questions about which towns are in the database. If you go
to the search page for the Hungarian database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/ and scroll down, you will find a
list of the component databases. Each database name is a link which will
take you to a table listing the contents of the database.

If we rank Hungarian and Slovak communities according to the number of
researchers interested in each town, as per the JGFF, we have now
transcribed 21 of the 25 largest communities in pre-Trianon Hungary. That
excludes communities now in the Ukraine or Romania.

Some time ago, I indicated my intention to step down as Coordinator of the
Hungarian Vital Records project, but committed to complete all the work that
was in progress. With this update to the database, all work outstanding at
the time of my announcement has been completed and I am now stepping down. I
expect to provide assistance to those people who will be assuming my former
responsibilities, but this brings to an end my five-year tenure.

This project has been a wonderful experience for me, primarily due to the
great people I have met, worked with and with whom I have formed, what I
hope to be, lasting friendships.

In the future, the transcription of vital records will employ a new
methodology in which FHL places all the images on-line and provides a
customized template (not Excel). This system is termed Family Search
Indexing (FSI) and has begun already. An initial project has been created
including the vital records for Buda, Obuda, Ujpest, Bekescsaba,
Szkesfehervar, Balassagyarmat and Niytra. In order for the vital record's
project to continue, we MUST have volunteers step forward to help manage
part of these efforts. Unlike in the past, we expect the coordination effort
to be divided into multiple, smaller assignments.

If you would be interested in volunteering, or would like to help transcribe
these records, contact Vivian Kahn at viviankahn@comcast.net.

Without volunteers, this project will cease to move forward.

Happy Hunting!!!

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records Project
Samara99@verizon.net


Romania SIG #Romania Update to the JewishGen All Hungarian Database #romania

samara99@...
 

I am pleased to announce a major update to the JewishGen All-Hungarian
Database (AHD).

This update, of approximately 150,000 records, brings the total number of
vital records (births, marriages and deaths) to over a half million, and the
total database, which also includes census and other type of records, to
over 1.1 million records.

The current update includes:

All remaining records for Szeged, for a total of 23,000.

57,000 Pest death records. This completes all vital records for Pest, about
155,000 records.

32,000 records for Bihar county (now in Romania). The majority are for
Nagyvarad / Oradea. For Oradea, we have transcribed 45 or 55 "Jewish"
registers. The other 10 are in "restoration" and are not currently available
nor is a firm date known for when "restoration" will be completed. The Bihar
records, some of which are 20th century records, include Oradea, Beius,
Alasd, Adoni, Valea lui Mihai, Simian, Silindru, Galospetreu, Piscolt, and
Marghita.

5,000 records for Nagy-Mihaly / Michalovce, believed to be the only vital
records available >from this town.

Lackenbach, Mako, Baja, and Trencin.

Homonna records not available >from LDS.

As a result of the incredible efforts of Marelynn Zipser, 21,000 Poszony /
Bratislava records, bringing the total for this town to 28,000.

These accomplishments are due to a group of people who have dedicated
themselves to preserving our heritage. They include:

Eva Abraham, Miry Abramovich, Susan Ades, Roger Adler, Tomas Adler, Ann
Armoza, Peter Bakos, Mary Blumenstein, Jenny Brichta, Anne Buchanan, Shari
and Asher Buxbaum, Martin Cohn, Gizella Czene, Wolf-Erich Eckstein, Marlene
Elster, Jackie Erdos, Sylvia Fenton, Sarah Feuerstein, Bob Fisch, Catarina
Fischer, Yaacov Fried, George Gelb, Susan Geroe, Sam Glaser, Ava Gorkin,
Ivan Greenhut, Imre Grosz, Peter Gyrenes, Tamas Hajdu, Bob Hanscom, Pamela
Hayter, Andrew Hegedus, Agi Herman, Andreas Hirschler, Sara Israeli, Susan
Kalish, Gary Katz, Gene Katz, Karen Katz, Yocheved Klausner, Larry Kohn,
Ilan Kozma, Vera Kwait, Margarita Lacko, Miriam Laska, David Laufer, Esther
Levinson, Diane Lazaar, Lois Levick, Julie Lockwood, Marianne Lods, Yohanan
Loeffler, Susan Martin, Alex Miller, Ron Miller, Judi Gyori Missel, Laszlo
Oberlander, Jackie Pataki, Judy Petersen, Susie Phillips, Andy Roth, Andrew
& Judith Sanders, Charlene Segot, Anne Selikov, Pat Shaw, Lynne Steensma,
Steve Stein, Peter Stern, Judith Steuer, Jennifer Strike, Mark Suss, George
Urban, Susana Vendel, Barbara Wasser, Karen Weinberg, Judy Kloogman
Weinstein, Ruben Weiser, Henry Wellisch, Marelynn Zipser, Daniel Zur

If you would like to express your appreciation to the transcribers, you
could do so by sending an email to the subject of "The Transcribers" on the
H-SIG email list. If you would like to make a more concrete expression of
your appreciation, a donation to JewishGen at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/ would be both welcome and help
JewishGen continue to provide these important services.

Everyone should be reminded that these are index records and omit what can
be crucial information. You should always go to the source image record if
possible.
Approximately 50,000 records are not readily available publicly, if at all.
These records can be identified by the Source indicating the record is from
the "SA Ujhely Archives" or the "Bihar Archives" or similar. The source
images for those records can be obtained for a nominal fee >from the H-SIG
"Records Librarian," a new position held by Bobby Furst at
bobby1st@gmail.com.

I frequently get questions about which towns are in the database. If you go
to the search page for the Hungarian database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/ and scroll down, you will find a
list of the component databases. Each database name is a link which will
take you to a table listing the contents of the database.

If we rank Hungarian and Slovak communities according to the number of
researchers interested in each town, as per the JGFF, we have now
transcribed 21 of the 25 largest communities in pre-Trianon Hungary. That
excludes communities now in the Ukraine or Romania.

Some time ago, I indicated my intention to step down as Coordinator of the
Hungarian Vital Records project, but committed to complete all the work that
was in progress. With this update to the database, all work outstanding at
the time of my announcement has been completed and I am now stepping down. I
expect to provide assistance to those people who will be assuming my former
responsibilities, but this brings to an end my five-year tenure.

This project has been a wonderful experience for me, primarily due to the
great people I have met, worked with and with whom I have formed, what I
hope to be, lasting friendships.

In the future, the transcription of vital records will employ a new
methodology in which FHL places all the images on-line and provides a
customized template (not Excel). This system is termed Family Search
Indexing (FSI) and has begun already. An initial project has been created
including the vital records for Buda, Obuda, Ujpest, Bekescsaba,
Szkesfehervar, Balassagyarmat and Niytra. In order for the vital record's
project to continue, we MUST have volunteers step forward to help manage
part of these efforts. Unlike in the past, we expect the coordination effort
to be divided into multiple, smaller assignments.

If you would be interested in volunteering, or would like to help transcribe
these records, contact Vivian Kahn at viviankahn@comcast.net.

Without volunteers, this project will cease to move forward.

Happy Hunting!!!

Sam Schleman
Project Coordinator
Hungarian Vital Records Project
Samara99@verizon.net


Re: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF #unitedkingdom

jsullins@...
 

Alexandra,

All the databases you mentioned are incomplete. Check the GRO death index
for the date and send for the certificate. It might have clues for you.
Also, check the Jewish Chronicle for any obituaries.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA


Can anyone suggest where else I could look for his grave? If he's not in
the databases I
mentioned above, does this mean that he was not buried in a Jewish
cemetery?
If he wasn't buried in a Jewish cemetery, where would a hat-maker who had
lived all his adult life in London, mostly in Islington (with the
exception
of the 1881 Census, which finds him in Tollington Park, CT, London),
choose
to be buried/cremated and how could I find out?

I hope someone can help me with this.
Thank you.
Alexandra Singer Lavi
Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF #unitedkingdom

jsullins@...
 

Alexandra,

All the databases you mentioned are incomplete. Check the GRO death index
for the date and send for the certificate. It might have clues for you.
Also, check the Jewish Chronicle for any obituaries.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA


Can anyone suggest where else I could look for his grave? If he's not in
the databases I
mentioned above, does this mean that he was not buried in a Jewish
cemetery?
If he wasn't buried in a Jewish cemetery, where would a hat-maker who had
lived all his adult life in London, mostly in Islington (with the
exception
of the 1881 Census, which finds him in Tollington Park, CT, London),
choose
to be buried/cremated and how could I find out?

I hope someone can help me with this.
Thank you.
Alexandra Singer Lavi
Israel


Re: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF #unitedkingdom

mbenedict51@...
 

For clarity... the 1881 address was 17 Tollington Park, N (not "Ct"). "N" was a sort of early post-code (zip-code) for an area of northern London.
In case it helps anyone trying to help with research, he was widowed at that stage, and his niece, Elizabeth FRINK (sp? - it does look more link FRINK than FUNK) (40, unmarried, b Cripplegate, Middx) was staying with him.

In 1871, he was at 4 Albion Villas, Islington, with his wife, Margretha, 63 (b ?Deinbusch, Germany), and his niece is named as Elise FUNCK (30). His middle initial appears to be written as "W" by the enumerator.

In 1861, Siegfried (56) and Margaretta (52, b Hanover) were also at 4 Albion Villas - and it shows up more clearly that this was in/near Tollington Park. Their son, William (16, b St Luke, Middx) was with them, as well as Elise FUNCK (20).

In 1851, the family is at 31 Chiswell St, St Luke, Finsbury. There are two children: son, Wm John (6), and Adolph... (16, b St Luke), a daughter.

Finding them in 1841 seems to be more problematic, even with a young daughter to locate them... Found them!
Simon WOLF 37, Johana WOLF 33, both (foreign-born), and Adolphine FUNCK^... there's something inserted at the end of the surname - something which could be "av" or "cw".... They seem to be in the same household as an URBAN family - of which the head is also a cap-maker.

This seems to establish that the family was firmly rooted in that one area. That would suggest that the relevant burial place would also be in that area (If you look on any of the map websites, you should find that Tolington Park is in Islington). There is a specific web-page with information about Islington cemeteries, including a link to a (paid) website which apparently carries transcriptions for the St Pancras and Islington cemetery.

I have cc'd you directly in case there are posting probs.

Mary
SW Herts, UK
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Subject: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF
From: asingerlavi@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:02:53 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear JCR-UK,

The English death record states that:
Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF died Dec 8 1888 in Islington, Middlesex, London.
Despite the name, this man was most certainly Jewish. He also went by the name Simon. I am trying to locate the place in which he was buried.

He is not listed in the 1851 Anglo-Jewry Database, in the JCR burials database, or in the JewishGen English burials database. Can anyone suggest where else I could look for his grave? If he's not in the databases I mentioned above, does this mean that he was not buried in a Jewish cemetery?
If he wasn't buried in a Jewish cemetery, where would a hat-maker who had lived all his adult life in London, mostly in Islington (with the exception of the 1881 Census, which finds him in Tollington Park, CT, London), choose to be buried/cremated and how could I find out?

I hope someone can help me with this.
Thank you.
Alexandra Singer Lavi
Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF #unitedkingdom

mbenedict51@...
 

For clarity... the 1881 address was 17 Tollington Park, N (not "Ct"). "N" was a sort of early post-code (zip-code) for an area of northern London.
In case it helps anyone trying to help with research, he was widowed at that stage, and his niece, Elizabeth FRINK (sp? - it does look more link FRINK than FUNK) (40, unmarried, b Cripplegate, Middx) was staying with him.

In 1871, he was at 4 Albion Villas, Islington, with his wife, Margretha, 63 (b ?Deinbusch, Germany), and his niece is named as Elise FUNCK (30). His middle initial appears to be written as "W" by the enumerator.

In 1861, Siegfried (56) and Margaretta (52, b Hanover) were also at 4 Albion Villas - and it shows up more clearly that this was in/near Tollington Park. Their son, William (16, b St Luke, Middx) was with them, as well as Elise FUNCK (20).

In 1851, the family is at 31 Chiswell St, St Luke, Finsbury. There are two children: son, Wm John (6), and Adolph... (16, b St Luke), a daughter.

Finding them in 1841 seems to be more problematic, even with a young daughter to locate them... Found them!
Simon WOLF 37, Johana WOLF 33, both (foreign-born), and Adolphine FUNCK^... there's something inserted at the end of the surname - something which could be "av" or "cw".... They seem to be in the same household as an URBAN family - of which the head is also a cap-maker.

This seems to establish that the family was firmly rooted in that one area. That would suggest that the relevant burial place would also be in that area (If you look on any of the map websites, you should find that Tolington Park is in Islington). There is a specific web-page with information about Islington cemeteries, including a link to a (paid) website which apparently carries transcriptions for the St Pancras and Islington cemetery.

I have cc'd you directly in case there are posting probs.

Mary
SW Herts, UK
________________________________

Subject: identifying the grave of Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF
From: asingerlavi@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:02:53 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear JCR-UK,

The English death record states that:
Heinrich Adolph Siegfried WOLFF died Dec 8 1888 in Islington, Middlesex, London.
Despite the name, this man was most certainly Jewish. He also went by the name Simon. I am trying to locate the place in which he was buried.

He is not listed in the 1851 Anglo-Jewry Database, in the JCR burials database, or in the JewishGen English burials database. Can anyone suggest where else I could look for his grave? If he's not in the databases I mentioned above, does this mean that he was not buried in a Jewish cemetery?
If he wasn't buried in a Jewish cemetery, where would a hat-maker who had lived all his adult life in London, mostly in Islington (with the exception of the 1881 Census, which finds him in Tollington Park, CT, London), choose to be buried/cremated and how could I find out?

I hope someone can help me with this.
Thank you.
Alexandra Singer Lavi
Israel


Seeking information on HELFER relatives #germany

Joyce Eastman
 

I am seeking information on anyone who might be related to my HELFER
family originating in Brody, Poland (now in the Ukraine)., My paternal
grandmother was Sime Bruche HELFER b. 10/9/1880 in Brody,
Poland, daughter of Judes HELFER and Aron ZINKOWER; she
was married to Salomon Wolf WILDER , also born in Brody, Poland.,

I am aware of a possible connection to Max HELFER,
who was also born in Brody, Poland, and whose family ran an
orphanage in Hamburg, Germany., It is my belief that Max HELFER
might be a cousin of my grandmother., Since there are many records
missing for Brody, Poland at the Ukraine Archives, I am hoping that
someone might be researching the HELFER family >from Brody,
Poland or Hamburg, Germany that might have more information
for me. I have already made a connection to the ARENDAR family
through the page of testimony left on Yad Vashem for Max HELFER.

However, this still did not clarify the relationship of Max HELFER
to my paternal grandmother. Please contact me privately if you
have any information regarding Max HELFER's relationship to my paternal
grandmother or any relationship your family may have to my HELFER
relatives.

Joyce Eastman, Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER, HELFER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine, Hamburg, Germany
and Vienna, Austria;


German SIG #Germany Seeking information on HELFER relatives #germany

Joyce Eastman
 

I am seeking information on anyone who might be related to my HELFER
family originating in Brody, Poland (now in the Ukraine)., My paternal
grandmother was Sime Bruche HELFER b. 10/9/1880 in Brody,
Poland, daughter of Judes HELFER and Aron ZINKOWER; she
was married to Salomon Wolf WILDER , also born in Brody, Poland.,

I am aware of a possible connection to Max HELFER,
who was also born in Brody, Poland, and whose family ran an
orphanage in Hamburg, Germany., It is my belief that Max HELFER
might be a cousin of my grandmother., Since there are many records
missing for Brody, Poland at the Ukraine Archives, I am hoping that
someone might be researching the HELFER family >from Brody,
Poland or Hamburg, Germany that might have more information
for me. I have already made a connection to the ARENDAR family
through the page of testimony left on Yad Vashem for Max HELFER.

However, this still did not clarify the relationship of Max HELFER
to my paternal grandmother. Please contact me privately if you
have any information regarding Max HELFER's relationship to my paternal
grandmother or any relationship your family may have to my HELFER
relatives.

Joyce Eastman, Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER, HELFER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine, Hamburg, Germany
and Vienna, Austria;

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