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Another puzzle #general

David Schreiber
 

I have just acquired some papers that have launched me into another puzzling
direction. While looking for information on a maternal great uncle by the
name of Jacob HOOKAYLO who lived much of his life in New Jersey and died in
Los Angeles, I ran across a Jacob GUCAILO (also spelled Gukailo and Gukaila) who
lived in Saint Paul, Minnesota. These people must be related because their
records have them coming >from or born in the same two towns of Uman and Buki
and all of these different spellings are consistent with transliteration >from
Russian. However, the second Jacob is roughly 10 years older than the first
Jacob, so I can only think that he is a cousin rather than another sibling.
Interestingly, all of these people were trained jewelers or watchmakers.
Another wrinkle in this puzzle is that the Saint Paul Jacob legally and radically
changed his name officially to Jacob Moses Samson as he was being naturalized.

Has anyone here heard of this Minnesota family or their story?

Thanks in advance.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

Searching: KAYLO or variations, HOOKAYLO, GUKAJLO, GUKAILO, GUCAILO, GUKAILA,
SAMSON >from Buki or Uman or vicinities in Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Another puzzle #general

David Schreiber
 

I have just acquired some papers that have launched me into another puzzling
direction. While looking for information on a maternal great uncle by the
name of Jacob HOOKAYLO who lived much of his life in New Jersey and died in
Los Angeles, I ran across a Jacob GUCAILO (also spelled Gukailo and Gukaila) who
lived in Saint Paul, Minnesota. These people must be related because their
records have them coming >from or born in the same two towns of Uman and Buki
and all of these different spellings are consistent with transliteration >from
Russian. However, the second Jacob is roughly 10 years older than the first
Jacob, so I can only think that he is a cousin rather than another sibling.
Interestingly, all of these people were trained jewelers or watchmakers.
Another wrinkle in this puzzle is that the Saint Paul Jacob legally and radically
changed his name officially to Jacob Moses Samson as he was being naturalized.

Has anyone here heard of this Minnesota family or their story?

Thanks in advance.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

Searching: KAYLO or variations, HOOKAYLO, GUKAJLO, GUKAILO, GUCAILO, GUKAILA,
SAMSON >from Buki or Uman or vicinities in Ukraine


Viewmate -- Ship manifest notations/location #general

H Duboff <jewishgen2@...>
 

Hello, all.

I have posted 3 items (>from the same ship manifest) to ViewMate. The
link to ViewMate is at the end of this message.

1. The full copy of the ship manifest (first page) is VM15808.
Please note: The format for Column 11, "The name and complete address
of the nearest relative or friend..." is such that the first line is
the friend/relative and the line under that is the address. This has
caused some confusion in replies in that people refer to the entry for
"mother: Ita.." That "mother:.." entry is for the next passenger on
the list.

2. VM15809 -- I am trying to determine the location in Russia/Poland
that is written in Column 11. The father's name is apparently "Moshka
Ziembel." The line under that begins with Lucz..? That is what I am
trying to decipher.

3. VM15807 -- What are the handwritten notations? >from what I can
tell, the JewishGen info file at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/ does not refer to these
specific types of notations.

Passenger #22 is listed as "Simcho Ziembel." This could be the entry
for my great-grandfather. His petition and naturalization papers list
this ship, and the age is close (he was born 1889, making him 22 when
he left Russia in 1911).However, "Simcho" is listed as "[F]emale",
occupation "maid." (The age is 25, but I wouldn't put too much
emphasis on that.) There are handwritten numbers under the "Race or
People" column, with a stamped date of June 6, 1916. One of the
numbers is "16000" or "1600C." I have seen a request for information
on this type of number before, but can't find any answer. Simcho's
("Simon") naturalization papers are dated July 5, 1916, but none of
the other numbers match the "54023" written on the manifest. I've
looked at the explanation of handwritten notes, but I wonder if there
is something that would provide a better explanation? Does "54023"
correspond to some other certificate or document that I can request?

Thank you, in advance, for your help.
Henoch Duboff

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URLs are
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15808
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15807
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15809


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate -- Ship manifest notations/location #general

H Duboff <jewishgen2@...>
 

Hello, all.

I have posted 3 items (>from the same ship manifest) to ViewMate. The
link to ViewMate is at the end of this message.

1. The full copy of the ship manifest (first page) is VM15808.
Please note: The format for Column 11, "The name and complete address
of the nearest relative or friend..." is such that the first line is
the friend/relative and the line under that is the address. This has
caused some confusion in replies in that people refer to the entry for
"mother: Ita.." That "mother:.." entry is for the next passenger on
the list.

2. VM15809 -- I am trying to determine the location in Russia/Poland
that is written in Column 11. The father's name is apparently "Moshka
Ziembel." The line under that begins with Lucz..? That is what I am
trying to decipher.

3. VM15807 -- What are the handwritten notations? >from what I can
tell, the JewishGen info file at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/ does not refer to these
specific types of notations.

Passenger #22 is listed as "Simcho Ziembel." This could be the entry
for my great-grandfather. His petition and naturalization papers list
this ship, and the age is close (he was born 1889, making him 22 when
he left Russia in 1911).However, "Simcho" is listed as "[F]emale",
occupation "maid." (The age is 25, but I wouldn't put too much
emphasis on that.) There are handwritten numbers under the "Race or
People" column, with a stamped date of June 6, 1916. One of the
numbers is "16000" or "1600C." I have seen a request for information
on this type of number before, but can't find any answer. Simcho's
("Simon") naturalization papers are dated July 5, 1916, but none of
the other numbers match the "54023" written on the manifest. I've
looked at the explanation of handwritten notes, but I wonder if there
is something that would provide a better explanation? Does "54023"
correspond to some other certificate or document that I can request?

Thank you, in advance, for your help.
Henoch Duboff

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct URLs are
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15808
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15807
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15809


HYAMS family of New Orleans and Charleston #general

Joyce Oshrin
 

I am trying to learn the parents and grandparents of Hannah HYAMS died in
San Antonia, Texas. mar 1916 married to Nordhaus. Believe she was descended
from Henry HYAMS( born 1764),came >from London ,England , or Mordecai.
HYAMS ,(died 1883 in New Orleans),, Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Joyce Oshrin
joshrin33@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HYAMS family of New Orleans and Charleston #general

Joyce Oshrin
 

I am trying to learn the parents and grandparents of Hannah HYAMS died in
San Antonia, Texas. mar 1916 married to Nordhaus. Believe she was descended
from Henry HYAMS( born 1764),came >from London ,England , or Mordecai.
HYAMS ,(died 1883 in New Orleans),, Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Joyce Oshrin
joshrin33@...


Re: Anyone researching Yemenite Jews? #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

My email to Fraida Cohen bounced but I may be able to offer some advice and have
access to a couple of resources that may help with this.

Regards

Ben Forman
Manchester UK
_

From: Bubby [mailto:yeruchem18@...]

Was wondering if anyone out there was doing or has done research on any
Jewish families >from Yemen?

Fraida Cohen
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Anyone researching Yemenite Jews? #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

My email to Fraida Cohen bounced but I may be able to offer some advice and have
access to a couple of resources that may help with this.

Regards

Ben Forman
Manchester UK
_

From: Bubby [mailto:yeruchem18@...]

Was wondering if anyone out there was doing or has done research on any
Jewish families >from Yemen?

Fraida Cohen
New York


National Archives (Jerusalem) #general

Israel P
 

There is a sign in the lobby of the National Archives in Jerusalem saying
that they will be closed to the public 18-29 July, reopening 1 August.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen National Archives (Jerusalem) #general

Israel P
 

There is a sign in the lobby of the National Archives in Jerusalem saying
that they will be closed to the public 18-29 July, reopening 1 August.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Re: Calarasi, Moldova Cemetery Project - An Update #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

You are terrific. Thanks for all your hard work.

Sally Goodman
JGSLA

The Calarasi, Moldova Cemetery Project is now starting... hope to have
pictures of all of the gravestones sometime in July and will start working
on translating them and putting them on JOWBR.

Terry Lasky
Centennial, CO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Calarasi, Moldova Cemetery Project - An Update #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

You are terrific. Thanks for all your hard work.

Sally Goodman
JGSLA

The Calarasi, Moldova Cemetery Project is now starting... hope to have
pictures of all of the gravestones sometime in July and will start working
on translating them and putting them on JOWBR.

Terry Lasky
Centennial, CO


Mottel Gross Winnipeg Poster Image Available for Your Viewing Pleasure #yiddish

gufovsky@...
 

The jpeg of the Winnipeg poster (Schapira Studio) of my young
grandfather, Morris/Mottel/Moische GROSS, costumed for his various
theatrical roles, has just been uploaded. The original would have
been >from probably the early 1920s, perhaps late teens. I understand
it may take a few days before it can be seen on ViewMate. I hope you
enjoy.

Barbara Grossman
gufovsky@...


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Mottel Gross Winnipeg Poster Image Available for Your Viewing Pleasure #yiddish

gufovsky@...
 

The jpeg of the Winnipeg poster (Schapira Studio) of my young
grandfather, Morris/Mottel/Moische GROSS, costumed for his various
theatrical roles, has just been uploaded. The original would have
been >from probably the early 1920s, perhaps late teens. I understand
it may take a few days before it can be seen on ViewMate. I hope you
enjoy.

Barbara Grossman
gufovsky@...


Basic U.S. Jewish Genealogy Course: July 15 #france

bounce-2052301-772957@...
 

This Course focuses on U.S. immigrant ancestors and their immediate=20
families. It includes 6 online text lessons which you can read/download=20
at your own pace. The BASIC course does not include research beyond=20
what is available in United States libraries, archives, and other local=20
sources. The syllabus is detailed at www.jewishgen.org/education.=20
=20
The course is essentially a personal mentoring program through our=20
online FORUM. Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their=20
research, and work one on one with the instructor.=20

If you've researched census, manifests and vital records and still do=20
not have information on your immigrant ancestors, please consider the=20
Intermediate Course (Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.). Once you have=20
found names and dates and former shtetls for your immigrant ancestors,=20
you might consider the Advanced course (Using jewishGen to FindYour=20
Ancestral Roots).

Basic Requirements: Students must be comfortable browsing the Internet=20
and downloading files. To best utilize this class, we suggest students=20
have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, sample the websites and=20
interact with the FORUM.

Tuition for Basic Genealogy is $80. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education,=20
read about the classes and their requirements, and click on enroll. The=20
course fee is waived if you qualify for the Value Added Services having=20
made a $100 donation to JewishGen's General Fund within the past 12=20
months; you can then enroll at no additional charge (the system will=20
recognize you and will not ask for a credit card). For questions, please=20
email JewishGen-Education@...

Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager, JewishGen Inc=20
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
phylliskramer1@...


French SIG #France Basic U.S. Jewish Genealogy Course: July 15 #france

bounce-2052301-772957@...
 

This Course focuses on U.S. immigrant ancestors and their immediate=20
families. It includes 6 online text lessons which you can read/download=20
at your own pace. The BASIC course does not include research beyond=20
what is available in United States libraries, archives, and other local=20
sources. The syllabus is detailed at www.jewishgen.org/education.=20
=20
The course is essentially a personal mentoring program through our=20
online FORUM. Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their=20
research, and work one on one with the instructor.=20

If you've researched census, manifests and vital records and still do=20
not have information on your immigrant ancestors, please consider the=20
Intermediate Course (Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.). Once you have=20
found names and dates and former shtetls for your immigrant ancestors,=20
you might consider the Advanced course (Using jewishGen to FindYour=20
Ancestral Roots).

Basic Requirements: Students must be comfortable browsing the Internet=20
and downloading files. To best utilize this class, we suggest students=20
have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, sample the websites and=20
interact with the FORUM.

Tuition for Basic Genealogy is $80. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education,=20
read about the classes and their requirements, and click on enroll. The=20
course fee is waived if you qualify for the Value Added Services having=20
made a $100 donation to JewishGen's General Fund within the past 12=20
months; you can then enroll at no additional charge (the system will=20
recognize you and will not ask for a credit card). For questions, please=20
email JewishGen-Education@...

Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager, JewishGen Inc=20
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
phylliskramer1@...


Basic U.S. Jewish Genealogy Course: July 15 #poland

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

This Course focuses on U.S. immigrant ancestors and their immediate
families. It includes 6 online text lessons which you can read/download
at your own pace. The BASIC course does not include research beyond
what is available in United States libraries, archives, and other local
sources. The syllabus is detailed at www.jewishgen.org/education.

The course is essentially a personal mentoring program through our
online FORUM. Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their
research, and work one on one with the instructor.

If you've researched census, manifests and vital records and still do
not have information on your immigrant ancestors, please consider the
Intermediate Course (Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.). Once you have
found names and dates and former shtetls for your immigrant ancestors,
you might consider the Advanced course (Using jewishGen to FindYour
Ancestral Roots).

Basic Requirements: Students must be comfortable browsing the Internet
and downloading files. To best utilize this class, we suggest students
have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, sample the websites and
interact with the FORUM.

Tuition for Basic Genealogy is $80. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education,
read about the classes and their requirements, and click on enroll. The
course fee is waived if you qualify for the Value Added Services having
made a $100 donation to JewishGen's General Fund within the past 12
months; you can then enroll at no additional charge (the system will
recognize you and will not ask for a credit card). For questions, please
email JewishGen-Education@...

Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager, JewishGen Inc
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
phylliskramer1@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Jewish Records Indexing-Poland is an independent
organization whose database, website and discussion group are "hosted"
by JewishGen. Each group has its own, separate administrative and
financial structure.


JRI Poland #Poland Basic U.S. Jewish Genealogy Course: July 15 #poland

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

This Course focuses on U.S. immigrant ancestors and their immediate
families. It includes 6 online text lessons which you can read/download
at your own pace. The BASIC course does not include research beyond
what is available in United States libraries, archives, and other local
sources. The syllabus is detailed at www.jewishgen.org/education.

The course is essentially a personal mentoring program through our
online FORUM. Students post an ancestral branch, set goals for their
research, and work one on one with the instructor.

If you've researched census, manifests and vital records and still do
not have information on your immigrant ancestors, please consider the
Intermediate Course (Breaking Brick Walls in the U.S.). Once you have
found names and dates and former shtetls for your immigrant ancestors,
you might consider the Advanced course (Using jewishGen to FindYour
Ancestral Roots).

Basic Requirements: Students must be comfortable browsing the Internet
and downloading files. To best utilize this class, we suggest students
have 8-10 hours per week to read the lessons, sample the websites and
interact with the FORUM.

Tuition for Basic Genealogy is $80. Go to www.jewishgen.org/education,
read about the classes and their requirements, and click on enroll. The
course fee is waived if you qualify for the Value Added Services having
made a $100 donation to JewishGen's General Fund within the past 12
months; you can then enroll at no additional charge (the system will
recognize you and will not ask for a credit card). For questions, please
email JewishGen-Education@...

Nancy Holden, Instruction Manager, JewishGen Inc
Phyllis Kramer, VP Education
phylliskramer1@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Jewish Records Indexing-Poland is an independent
organization whose database, website and discussion group are "hosted"
by JewishGen. Each group has its own, separate administrative and
financial structure.


Russian Towns: Krol Polsk & Salomin #poland

Ann Linder
 

Can anyone please advise where Krol Polsk, Russia was in aprox 1910?
& what it is today.

Can anyone please advise the same of Salomin, Russia in aproximately 1906?

I've done the Town Finder in Jewishgen without success as well as
google & wikipedia.

Both of these towns are listed in 2 Ellis Island arrival records as
the place of residence of the immigrants. In the case of Salomin the
immigrant identified himself as Russian Polish.

Are either of these towns near the Kielce/Zaglembe area?
Thank you in advance.
--
Ann Linder
Florida USA
Researching
In Sosnowiec: WENGER, WEGIER
In Stopnice & Nowe Korczyn: KAMIENIARZ , SZTEREN, FRYDMAN, ZYLBERBERG,
SILBERBERG, ROTENBERG, NOZYC
In UK: KAMINASH, LEVI, LEVY, KINSLER


JRI Poland #Poland Russian Towns: Krol Polsk & Salomin #poland

Ann Linder
 

Can anyone please advise where Krol Polsk, Russia was in aprox 1910?
& what it is today.

Can anyone please advise the same of Salomin, Russia in aproximately 1906?

I've done the Town Finder in Jewishgen without success as well as
google & wikipedia.

Both of these towns are listed in 2 Ellis Island arrival records as
the place of residence of the immigrants. In the case of Salomin the
immigrant identified himself as Russian Polish.

Are either of these towns near the Kielce/Zaglembe area?
Thank you in advance.
--
Ann Linder
Florida USA
Researching
In Sosnowiec: WENGER, WEGIER
In Stopnice & Nowe Korczyn: KAMIENIARZ , SZTEREN, FRYDMAN, ZYLBERBERG,
SILBERBERG, ROTENBERG, NOZYC
In UK: KAMINASH, LEVI, LEVY, KINSLER