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Fanny Neuda's "Hours of Devotion" #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Dinah Berland gave me a copy of her recent edition of Fanny NEUDA's
"Hours of Devotion" a book of prayers for women, written in Lostice,
Moravia and first published in 1855. The preface is quite
interesting, as is the prayer book itself, if you are interested in
the spiritual life of Moravian Jews. Fanny NEUDA nee SCHMIEDL (1819
Ivancice, d. 1894 Vienna) was the wife of Rabbi Abraham NEUDA
(1812-1854) of Lostice. Fanny's maternal grandfather was Rabbi
Moses Karpeles (1765-1837) and Titl Gruenbaum of Prostejov. Fanny's
parents were Nechoma Karpeles and Rabbi Juda SCHMIEDL (1776-1855), who
was rabbi in Lomnice.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

Vienna Cemetery #austria-czech

Palekaiko
 

I am looking for the location of several relatives (brother and
sister) who are buried in Vienna. Unfortunately, I can't find either
one. Could someone direct me to the appropriate database, please?

Ezra GLASS, born 28 Jun 1902, died 13 Jun 1981 in Vienna.

Emilie Glass GREINERT, born 9 Jul 1897 Stanislawow, Poland; died 6 Nov
1986 Vienna.

Thank you,

Michael Diamant
palekaiko@...

Vienna Births and marriages #austria-czech

danielat1@...
 

Ittai HERSHMAN has posted about a marriage and a birth in Vienna.
He asks if anyone can help identify the building behind the wedding party.
He thinks it may be a Vienna synagogue.
I just wanted to emphasise that in the 1920's all births deaths and
marriages for Jews were recorded by the IKG, the Jewish Community of
Vienna. Any records the City and State archives of Vienna hold are based on
the original IKG records for births deaths and marriages.
The City and State Archives of Vienna were in charge of the police
registrations which recorded where people resided and whom they lived with
in their apartment or other residence.
These are two quite separate sets of records.
So Ittai the civil records are those held by the City archives; The
religious records by the IKG. I think you have mixed this up.
To locate the synagogue I suggest you get hold of a book on Vienna's
synagogues or check online. There are many such sources which include
photographs of the synagogues at the time.
It would help you if you knew which Bezirk (District) the parties lived in
as its most likely they married at their local shul. This is usually written
at the start of an address as the first numeral. Once you know the Bezirk
you can have a look at the local synagogue and see if it's the same
building. Some were more orthodox than others and as is commonly the case
some were Sephardi others Ashkenazi so depending on where they were members
they may have gone further afield than their local but that's the obvious
place to start looking.
Are you sure this photo is >from the first marriage and not the second?
The fact the child was illegitimate wouldn't have affected the registration
of his birth or the timing. It is possible the father was out of town and so
could not register the baby.
Usually events had to be recorded within a short time frame after they
occurred.
I hope this helps.
Regards
Daniela Torsh
Sydney

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Fanny Neuda's "Hours of Devotion" #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Dinah Berland gave me a copy of her recent edition of Fanny NEUDA's
"Hours of Devotion" a book of prayers for women, written in Lostice,
Moravia and first published in 1855. The preface is quite
interesting, as is the prayer book itself, if you are interested in
the spiritual life of Moravian Jews. Fanny NEUDA nee SCHMIEDL (1819
Ivancice, d. 1894 Vienna) was the wife of Rabbi Abraham NEUDA
(1812-1854) of Lostice. Fanny's maternal grandfather was Rabbi
Moses Karpeles (1765-1837) and Titl Gruenbaum of Prostejov. Fanny's
parents were Nechoma Karpeles and Rabbi Juda SCHMIEDL (1776-1855), who
was rabbi in Lomnice.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Vienna Cemetery #austria-czech

Palekaiko
 

I am looking for the location of several relatives (brother and
sister) who are buried in Vienna. Unfortunately, I can't find either
one. Could someone direct me to the appropriate database, please?

Ezra GLASS, born 28 Jun 1902, died 13 Jun 1981 in Vienna.

Emilie Glass GREINERT, born 9 Jul 1897 Stanislawow, Poland; died 6 Nov
1986 Vienna.

Thank you,

Michael Diamant
palekaiko@...

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Vienna Births and marriages #austria-czech

danielat1@...
 

Ittai HERSHMAN has posted about a marriage and a birth in Vienna.
He asks if anyone can help identify the building behind the wedding party.
He thinks it may be a Vienna synagogue.
I just wanted to emphasise that in the 1920's all births deaths and
marriages for Jews were recorded by the IKG, the Jewish Community of
Vienna. Any records the City and State archives of Vienna hold are based on
the original IKG records for births deaths and marriages.
The City and State Archives of Vienna were in charge of the police
registrations which recorded where people resided and whom they lived with
in their apartment or other residence.
These are two quite separate sets of records.
So Ittai the civil records are those held by the City archives; The
religious records by the IKG. I think you have mixed this up.
To locate the synagogue I suggest you get hold of a book on Vienna's
synagogues or check online. There are many such sources which include
photographs of the synagogues at the time.
It would help you if you knew which Bezirk (District) the parties lived in
as its most likely they married at their local shul. This is usually written
at the start of an address as the first numeral. Once you know the Bezirk
you can have a look at the local synagogue and see if it's the same
building. Some were more orthodox than others and as is commonly the case
some were Sephardi others Ashkenazi so depending on where they were members
they may have gone further afield than their local but that's the obvious
place to start looking.
Are you sure this photo is >from the first marriage and not the second?
The fact the child was illegitimate wouldn't have affected the registration
of his birth or the timing. It is possible the father was out of town and so
could not register the baby.
Usually events had to be recorded within a short time frame after they
occurred.
I hope this helps.
Regards
Daniela Torsh
Sydney

Re: Vienna Marriage c.1920 Puzzle #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer
 

Ittai,

Without seeing Sidor's birth record I cannot see any contradiction in the data you have provided.
To my knowledge religious marriages in Vienna were recognised by the civil authorities, and that civil marriages in
Vienna in which both parties were the same religion were not permitted.

It seems that Hermann and Margit co-habited >from December 1920 and had a son Sidor (Isidor?) in October 1921. As Hermann
and Margit were then not yet married the birth was recorded as illegitimate. Presumably that birth showing the mother's
details was recorded within a few days of the birth. A copy of the birth record on View Mate could clarify this matter.
Subsequently the couple did get married in March 1922, and eventually got around to updating the birth record in January
1923. It is possible that the tick in the illegitimate column was then crossed out and a tick placed in the legitimate
column.

A similar chain of events happened to my great grandparents in Vienna in the 1860's when their first 3 children were
initially recorded as illegitimate. By the time their 4th child, my grandmother, was born they had married and all the
previous birth records were amended.

The only alternative rationale to Sidor's birth being recorded as illegitimate is that suggested in your last sentence
that an earlier marriage took place in the bride's home town, not in Vienna, with that marriage not having been
recognised in Vienna at the time of Sidor's birth, possibly due to lack of documentation.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Vienna Marriage c.1920 Puzzle #austria-czech

David & Diana Laufer
 

Ittai,

Without seeing Sidor's birth record I cannot see any contradiction in the data you have provided.
To my knowledge religious marriages in Vienna were recognised by the civil authorities, and that civil marriages in
Vienna in which both parties were the same religion were not permitted.

It seems that Hermann and Margit co-habited >from December 1920 and had a son Sidor (Isidor?) in October 1921. As Hermann
and Margit were then not yet married the birth was recorded as illegitimate. Presumably that birth showing the mother's
details was recorded within a few days of the birth. A copy of the birth record on View Mate could clarify this matter.
Subsequently the couple did get married in March 1922, and eventually got around to updating the birth record in January
1923. It is possible that the tick in the illegitimate column was then crossed out and a tick placed in the legitimate
column.

A similar chain of events happened to my great grandparents in Vienna in the 1860's when their first 3 children were
initially recorded as illegitimate. By the time their 4th child, my grandmother, was born they had married and all the
previous birth records were amended.

The only alternative rationale to Sidor's birth being recorded as illegitimate is that suggested in your last sentence
that an earlier marriage took place in the bride's home town, not in Vienna, with that marriage not having been
recognised in Vienna at the time of Sidor's birth, possibly due to lack of documentation.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia

David R. Berman - Browning & King Men's Clothing Store, New Haven, CT #general

Joyce Eastman
 

I am seeking information regarding David R. Berman and the Browning & King Men's
Clothing Store in New Haven, CT in connection with my father, Isidor Wilder who
came to the US >from Vienna, Austria through Southampton, England. On the ship
manifest it stated that he was going to David R. Berman in New Haven, CT. Through
my research on Ancestry.com I learned that David R. Berman was born on 3/17/1893
and died on 1/26/1985. His last address was shown as 1508 Boulevard, New Haven,
CT 06511.

What I am trying to find out is how my father came to stay with Mr. Berman and work
at his clothing store, since I have no information regarding any type of friendship
/relationship with Mr. Berman in regard to my WILDER family or my father (other
than the fact that my father worked for him - since my father's profession was a
master tailor). My father arrived at Ellis Island on the Aquitania on September 9,
1939 sailing >from Southampton, England. David R. Berman of Browning & King is noted
on there as "a friend" and the address of the store was shown as "1510 Boulevard,
New Haven, CT".

Please respond privately with any information you may have as to how my father may
have come to know Mr. David R. Berman to be able to come to New Haven, CT to work
for him in 1939.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER, HELFER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine and Vienna, Austria; RUFEISEN:
Biala/Sucha/Zywiec/Szare, Poland; SCHEIER: Biala, Poland and Stanislawow, Poland/
Ukraine (Ivano-Frankvisk); FRANKL/FODOR/PORGES/GROSSMANN/KOHN/WEISZ: Vaj Ujhely,
Hungary/Trencin, Slovakia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen David R. Berman - Browning & King Men's Clothing Store, New Haven, CT #general

Joyce Eastman
 

I am seeking information regarding David R. Berman and the Browning & King Men's
Clothing Store in New Haven, CT in connection with my father, Isidor Wilder who
came to the US >from Vienna, Austria through Southampton, England. On the ship
manifest it stated that he was going to David R. Berman in New Haven, CT. Through
my research on Ancestry.com I learned that David R. Berman was born on 3/17/1893
and died on 1/26/1985. His last address was shown as 1508 Boulevard, New Haven,
CT 06511.

What I am trying to find out is how my father came to stay with Mr. Berman and work
at his clothing store, since I have no information regarding any type of friendship
/relationship with Mr. Berman in regard to my WILDER family or my father (other
than the fact that my father worked for him - since my father's profession was a
master tailor). My father arrived at Ellis Island on the Aquitania on September 9,
1939 sailing >from Southampton, England. David R. Berman of Browning & King is noted
on there as "a friend" and the address of the store was shown as "1510 Boulevard,
New Haven, CT".

Please respond privately with any information you may have as to how my father may
have come to know Mr. David R. Berman to be able to come to New Haven, CT to work
for him in 1939.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER, HELFER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine and Vienna, Austria; RUFEISEN:
Biala/Sucha/Zywiec/Szare, Poland; SCHEIER: Biala, Poland and Stanislawow, Poland/
Ukraine (Ivano-Frankvisk); FRANKL/FODOR/PORGES/GROSSMANN/KOHN/WEISZ: Vaj Ujhely,
Hungary/Trencin, Slovakia

JOWBR Submissions - more info #belarus

bounce-2012198-772948@...
 

Yesterday I posted a message that informed you of the cut-off date for
submissions to the JOWBR database for the June upload. I received a
number of emails regarding questions that I should have addressed in
that email.

If you're not familiar with JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry), please take a look at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm
JOWBR currently has in excess of 1.3 million records >from 45 countries.

The only way we can keep track of what records are in JOWBR and what
records are still needed is to require submissions to include complete
cemetery or cemetery section records. To see which cemeteries and
cemetery sections are already included in JOWBR, please see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm

For more information on how to submit data and photos, please see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm#JOWBR
or now you can watch screencasts at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

For all those that are interested in submitting burial records and or
photos to the JOWBR database, our next cut off date will be May 31st.
Any data /photos that are submitted by then will be included in the
June update prior to the conference.

If you can't submit records in time, consider planning an indexing project
for the spring/summer season (for our Northern Hemisphere readers) and the
fall/winter season (for our Southern Hemisphere readers).

If you have any questions or need assistance, please contact me at
NAltman@... Sorry for any confusion.

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
Project Coordinator, JOWBR

Belarus SIG #Belarus JOWBR Submissions - more info #belarus

bounce-2012198-772948@...
 

Yesterday I posted a message that informed you of the cut-off date for
submissions to the JOWBR database for the June upload. I received a
number of emails regarding questions that I should have addressed in
that email.

If you're not familiar with JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry), please take a look at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm
JOWBR currently has in excess of 1.3 million records >from 45 countries.

The only way we can keep track of what records are in JOWBR and what
records are still needed is to require submissions to include complete
cemetery or cemetery section records. To see which cemeteries and
cemetery sections are already included in JOWBR, please see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm

For more information on how to submit data and photos, please see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm#JOWBR
or now you can watch screencasts at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Screencasts/

For all those that are interested in submitting burial records and or
photos to the JOWBR database, our next cut off date will be May 31st.
Any data /photos that are submitted by then will be included in the
June update prior to the conference.

If you can't submit records in time, consider planning an indexing project
for the spring/summer season (for our Northern Hemisphere readers) and the
fall/winter season (for our Southern Hemisphere readers).

If you have any questions or need assistance, please contact me at
NAltman@... Sorry for any confusion.

Nolan Altman
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition
Project Coordinator, JOWBR

Dokshitsy cemeteries #belarus

aiginsburg
 

I have added a page to jewishdokshitsy.org about the two cemeteries in
Dokshitsy at:
http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofjd/home/cemeteries. Included is
a link to the photographs of the 134 stones taken by Frank Swartz. The
translations and transliterations into English by David Freedman are
in the comments to each picture. In addition there is a link to a
spreadsheet with the translations. We are indebted to David Freedman
for his thorough and conscientious work. The spreadsheet is at
http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofjd/home/cemeteries/translation-spread-sheet

Aaron Ginsburg

Natick, Ma 01760 USA
President, The Friends of Jewish Dokshitsy
aaron.ginsburg@...
http://sites.google.com/site/yousaypokrassa/
http://jewishdokshitsy.org/
http://sukkahsoftheworld.org/

Belarus SIG #Belarus Dokshitsy cemeteries #belarus

aiginsburg
 

I have added a page to jewishdokshitsy.org about the two cemeteries in
Dokshitsy at:
http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofjd/home/cemeteries. Included is
a link to the photographs of the 134 stones taken by Frank Swartz. The
translations and transliterations into English by David Freedman are
in the comments to each picture. In addition there is a link to a
spreadsheet with the translations. We are indebted to David Freedman
for his thorough and conscientious work. The spreadsheet is at
http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofjd/home/cemeteries/translation-spread-sheet

Aaron Ginsburg

Natick, Ma 01760 USA
President, The Friends of Jewish Dokshitsy
aaron.ginsburg@...
http://sites.google.com/site/yousaypokrassa/
http://jewishdokshitsy.org/
http://sukkahsoftheworld.org/

Gorodok, Vitebsk Resource, List of Inhabitants #belarus

m.glazer1@...
 

Those of you interested in the Vitebsk region might look at
http://shtetle.co.il/Shtetls/gorodok/gor_syn_eng.html where there is a
list of inhabitants of the town of Gorodok, just north of Vitebsk.

Mike Glazer
UK

Belarus SIG #Belarus Gorodok, Vitebsk Resource, List of Inhabitants #belarus

m.glazer1@...
 

Those of you interested in the Vitebsk region might look at
http://shtetle.co.il/Shtetls/gorodok/gor_syn_eng.html where there is a
list of inhabitants of the town of Gorodok, just north of Vitebsk.

Mike Glazer
UK

Beck, Byk, Proskurow #ukraine

Ruth Beck
 

Hello,
My grandparents names were Temkin and Byk. They came to the U.S. early in the 1900's and settled in Providence, R.I. We are putting together a family tree and there is a family bible that we would love to locate. It may be in Israel. My grandfather was Herseh Byk and his father Szymon Byk. They were >from the Bug River area, Proskurow or Podolsky. The Temkins were >from Lubitsh. Other names are Basha Devorah Bolotow and Eta Nissenbaum.
There was a rumor that someone in the family had the family bible and it would be very nice to know if there is any family history within it.

Thank you,
Ruth Beck

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Beck, Byk, Proskurow #ukraine

Ruth Beck
 

Hello,
My grandparents names were Temkin and Byk. They came to the U.S. early in the 1900's and settled in Providence, R.I. We are putting together a family tree and there is a family bible that we would love to locate. It may be in Israel. My grandfather was Herseh Byk and his father Szymon Byk. They were >from the Bug River area, Proskurow or Podolsky. The Temkins were >from Lubitsh. Other names are Basha Devorah Bolotow and Eta Nissenbaum.
There was a rumor that someone in the family had the family bible and it would be very nice to know if there is any family history within it.

Thank you,
Ruth Beck

Willing to make pictures at Reichswalde Forest War Cemetery #germany

Esther Mols <mail@...>
 

Hello,
Today I visited the Reichswalde Forest War Cemetery (in Germany, near
teh Dutch border) to look for a tombstone of a fellow GerSIG member. I
made 2 more pictures (I added the photos to Viewmate. Sergeant R.I. Hart
and Sergeant J. Guterman). If somebody wants a picture of a tombstone
of a certain person being in this cemetary, just let me know. I am
willing to go there once in a while to make some pictures. it is only a
few Kilometres >from where I live.

Best regards, Esther Mols Kleve, NRW, Germany

FAMILY NAMES: SCHREIBER, HERRMANN, HOLZ, BLOCH, GAUDCHAU, NORMANN

German SIG #Germany Willing to make pictures at Reichswalde Forest War Cemetery #germany

Esther Mols <mail@...>
 

Hello,
Today I visited the Reichswalde Forest War Cemetery (in Germany, near
teh Dutch border) to look for a tombstone of a fellow GerSIG member. I
made 2 more pictures (I added the photos to Viewmate. Sergeant R.I. Hart
and Sergeant J. Guterman). If somebody wants a picture of a tombstone
of a certain person being in this cemetary, just let me know. I am
willing to go there once in a while to make some pictures. it is only a
few Kilometres >from where I live.

Best regards, Esther Mols Kleve, NRW, Germany

FAMILY NAMES: SCHREIBER, HERRMANN, HOLZ, BLOCH, GAUDCHAU, NORMANN