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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Tracing a Kohen #general

Allison L Duke <allison.duke@...>
 

Would a Cohen still be a Cohen if say perhaps the grandson married out of
his faith?

Allison Duke
Auburn,Ga

allison.duke@...


Re: Tracing a Kohen #general

Allison L Duke <allison.duke@...>
 

Would a Cohen still be a Cohen if say perhaps the grandson married out of
his faith?

Allison Duke
Auburn,Ga

allison.duke@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tracing A Kohen #general

COL HARRY E STEIN <YTPT23A@...>
 

I want to thank all who participated in this discussion. Your input
was most enlightening. One of your number provided me with what
appears to be a good lead for more information. Alan Weiner
recommended I research rabbinic
encyclopedias which can be found in rabbinic seminaries and larger
Jewish libraries. Unfortunately, I do not live in proximitey to
these types of institutions. I would appreciate if some kind someone
having access would look up the name Brochsztajn (Brochstein -
Brochshtein-and other variants) The family is >from Ostrowiec
Swietokrzyski, Kielce, Poland, formerly East Prussia, Russian Poland.
My mother said many members of the family were rabbis. Your help
would be most appreciated.

Harry
Tucson


Tracing A Kohen #general

COL HARRY E STEIN <YTPT23A@...>
 

I want to thank all who participated in this discussion. Your input
was most enlightening. One of your number provided me with what
appears to be a good lead for more information. Alan Weiner
recommended I research rabbinic
encyclopedias which can be found in rabbinic seminaries and larger
Jewish libraries. Unfortunately, I do not live in proximitey to
these types of institutions. I would appreciate if some kind someone
having access would look up the name Brochsztajn (Brochstein -
Brochshtein-and other variants) The family is >from Ostrowiec
Swietokrzyski, Kielce, Poland, formerly East Prussia, Russian Poland.
My mother said many members of the family were rabbis. Your help
would be most appreciated.

Harry
Tucson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Tracing a Kohen #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-09-07 09:29:38 EDT, you write:

<< The fact that a person bears the name Katz does not necessarily indicate
that they are a cohen. My son-in-law's family name is Katz and he is not
a cohen. His family acquired the name, apparently for one of the reasons
for name change common in Eastern Europe during the last century.
==True, I know a Rabbi Cohen (Northanpton UK in the 1940's; Kfar Mordecai,
Israel, in the 1950's), who's a Levi. For the reasons you state. My
suggestion was not that all Kat's are cohanim, but that the words haCohen may
*possibly* be left off a stone if the status is otherwise indicated, by the
spread hands or by the appreviation Kaf Tzade--which ALMOST always indicated a
Cohen

<<The descendants of a cohen who marries a divorcee or proselyte are not
cohanim, those of a physically impaired cohen are. >>

==Thank you, that what I woulkd have deduced; I'm greateful to you for
pointing it out more clearly.

Michael Bernet


Re: Tracing a Kohen #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-09-07 09:29:38 EDT, you write:

<< The fact that a person bears the name Katz does not necessarily indicate
that they are a cohen. My son-in-law's family name is Katz and he is not
a cohen. His family acquired the name, apparently for one of the reasons
for name change common in Eastern Europe during the last century.
==True, I know a Rabbi Cohen (Northanpton UK in the 1940's; Kfar Mordecai,
Israel, in the 1950's), who's a Levi. For the reasons you state. My
suggestion was not that all Kat's are cohanim, but that the words haCohen may
*possibly* be left off a stone if the status is otherwise indicated, by the
spread hands or by the appreviation Kaf Tzade--which ALMOST always indicated a
Cohen

<<The descendants of a cohen who marries a divorcee or proselyte are not
cohanim, those of a physically impaired cohen are. >>

==Thank you, that what I woulkd have deduced; I'm greateful to you for
pointing it out more clearly.

Michael Bernet


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genetics of Cohen and Levi #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-09-07 09:33:49 EDT, djbyrne@... writes:

<< A Galicia researcher on this list and I have a common family name
(Nebenzahl) which supposedly is a single family. . . .the Nebenzahl
men in my line were Kohanim. However, this researcher told me that
the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim, and explained that he
found in his research evidence of some matrilineal transmission
which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His argument is interesting food for thought.

==Jews in Europe (and non-Jews, too) before the mid-19th century were
notoriously unconcerned over the transmission of family names. In
the early 1800's Jews were officially forced to choose family names. Volumes could be filled on the mishaps and confusuions caused by
those name changes. Some were given the name of the day of the week
or the month of registration, some were accorded the name of the registering official, some chose to be called after a relative,
revered friend or Rabbi.

==It is far more likely that the Nebenzahl name occasionally
descended in the matrilineal line--or was adopted quite
cincidentally--than that the status of cohen could have been
transmitted matrilineally. Everyone in the community and
everyone in the synagogue knows who is a cohen. Tradition holds
that instant death will smite anyone who pretends to be a cohen
and steps onto the dukhan to transmit the Threefold Blessing. A
Cohen's advantages for the past 1900 years, are of an honorary nature, only; the disadvantages are very tangible (cannot marry a divorcee,
may not enter a cemetery or attend the funeral even for many close relatives, may not be anywhere near a corpse--which limits also
the ability of a Cohen to study medicine). It is most unlikely
that anyone would want to be a cohen if he is not descended in
the male line, or that he would not be uncovered by the community.

<<I read an interesting scientific article online recently . . . .
about the genetics of being a Kohan. Apparently this inherited
priestly cast originated before the Sephardic Ashkenazi split.

==Yes, published about a year ago. If anyone knows the publication
date and location, please let us know. The research apparently shows definite genetic markers vietually unique to the cohanim; I believe
it referenced information on the genetic divergence of European and Mediterranean Jews. Ashkenazim and Sephardim diverged as they
developed their special Jewish customs and rules and absorbed some
of the ambient culture. There was never any "split" between
them and the genetic and cultural similarities vastly surpass their
differences.

==Cohanim trace their descent to Aaron, brother of Moses. According
to the Torah they were separated out around 1300 BCE. Even scholarly "critics" acknowledge that they were a distinct sect by the 5th cent
BCE.

<<one of the truisms of human social life is that all cultures have
rules and traditions, and in every culture those rules and traditions
are broken, twisted and circumvented. How the rules are broken and
twisted is also part of the culture.

==There are some rules and traditions in the Jewish culture that
could not be broken or twisted by anyone who wished to remain within
the Jewish fold of his time. Cohen or not Cohen is one of these.
==caveat, I have known bearers of the Cohen name who were not
Cohanim--an error at immigration, I believe. They were NOT accorded
the status of cohen.

==Does anyone know of a similar genetic study on Leviim? The
wasll around the status of Levi may have been somewhat more
permeable than those of the Kohanim, but on would expect that
the Levi'im also have genetic similarities, and that some of
those are shared with the Cohanim. If you know of such studies,
please post.

Michael Bernet


Genetics of Cohen and Levi #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-09-07 09:33:49 EDT, djbyrne@... writes:

<< A Galicia researcher on this list and I have a common family name
(Nebenzahl) which supposedly is a single family. . . .the Nebenzahl
men in my line were Kohanim. However, this researcher told me that
the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim, and explained that he
found in his research evidence of some matrilineal transmission
which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His argument is interesting food for thought.

==Jews in Europe (and non-Jews, too) before the mid-19th century were
notoriously unconcerned over the transmission of family names. In
the early 1800's Jews were officially forced to choose family names. Volumes could be filled on the mishaps and confusuions caused by
those name changes. Some were given the name of the day of the week
or the month of registration, some were accorded the name of the registering official, some chose to be called after a relative,
revered friend or Rabbi.

==It is far more likely that the Nebenzahl name occasionally
descended in the matrilineal line--or was adopted quite
cincidentally--than that the status of cohen could have been
transmitted matrilineally. Everyone in the community and
everyone in the synagogue knows who is a cohen. Tradition holds
that instant death will smite anyone who pretends to be a cohen
and steps onto the dukhan to transmit the Threefold Blessing. A
Cohen's advantages for the past 1900 years, are of an honorary nature, only; the disadvantages are very tangible (cannot marry a divorcee,
may not enter a cemetery or attend the funeral even for many close relatives, may not be anywhere near a corpse--which limits also
the ability of a Cohen to study medicine). It is most unlikely
that anyone would want to be a cohen if he is not descended in
the male line, or that he would not be uncovered by the community.

<<I read an interesting scientific article online recently . . . .
about the genetics of being a Kohan. Apparently this inherited
priestly cast originated before the Sephardic Ashkenazi split.

==Yes, published about a year ago. If anyone knows the publication
date and location, please let us know. The research apparently shows definite genetic markers vietually unique to the cohanim; I believe
it referenced information on the genetic divergence of European and Mediterranean Jews. Ashkenazim and Sephardim diverged as they
developed their special Jewish customs and rules and absorbed some
of the ambient culture. There was never any "split" between
them and the genetic and cultural similarities vastly surpass their
differences.

==Cohanim trace their descent to Aaron, brother of Moses. According
to the Torah they were separated out around 1300 BCE. Even scholarly "critics" acknowledge that they were a distinct sect by the 5th cent
BCE.

<<one of the truisms of human social life is that all cultures have
rules and traditions, and in every culture those rules and traditions
are broken, twisted and circumvented. How the rules are broken and
twisted is also part of the culture.

==There are some rules and traditions in the Jewish culture that
could not be broken or twisted by anyone who wished to remain within
the Jewish fold of his time. Cohen or not Cohen is one of these.
==caveat, I have known bearers of the Cohen name who were not
Cohanim--an error at immigration, I believe. They were NOT accorded
the status of cohen.

==Does anyone know of a similar genetic study on Leviim? The
wasll around the status of Levi may have been somewhat more
permeable than those of the Kohanim, but on would expect that
the Levi'im also have genetic similarities, and that some of
those are shared with the Cohanim. If you know of such studies,
please post.

Michael Bernet


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen London cemeteries #general

Nick Landau <nick@...>
 

My GGF died in London in 1937. Which cemetery might he have been buried in?
Also, a great aunt (one of my GGF's daughters) died in 1920, also in London.
Again, which cemetery might she have been buried in? (My GGF had emigrated
from Lithuania in the 1880s/90s.)
Gail Copeland
Thornhill, ON Canada
I visited a United Synagogue cemetery yesterday and found that all the
graves dating back to the last cemetery are on a computer database which
can be searched by last name and forename. The English and Hebrew date of
death is given although the where the death was before the 1 January 1901
this is given as the 1 Jan 01 (the Centenary Problem! The information for
all the cemeteries is accessible at any one cemetery. I don't know whether
multiple searches can be made by members of the public.

The address for the US Burial Society is

United Synagogue Burial Society
Finchley Synagogue
Kinloss Gardens
London N3

Tel 44 (0)181-343 3456

Alternatively contact the Archivist at the London Beth Din, Mr Charles
Tucker on 0181-343 6270.

Nick


London cemeteries #general

Nick Landau <nick@...>
 

My GGF died in London in 1937. Which cemetery might he have been buried in?
Also, a great aunt (one of my GGF's daughters) died in 1920, also in London.
Again, which cemetery might she have been buried in? (My GGF had emigrated
from Lithuania in the 1880s/90s.)
Gail Copeland
Thornhill, ON Canada
I visited a United Synagogue cemetery yesterday and found that all the
graves dating back to the last cemetery are on a computer database which
can be searched by last name and forename. The English and Hebrew date of
death is given although the where the death was before the 1 January 1901
this is given as the 1 Jan 01 (the Centenary Problem! The information for
all the cemeteries is accessible at any one cemetery. I don't know whether
multiple searches can be made by members of the public.

The address for the US Burial Society is

United Synagogue Burial Society
Finchley Synagogue
Kinloss Gardens
London N3

Tel 44 (0)181-343 3456

Alternatively contact the Archivist at the London Beth Din, Mr Charles
Tucker on 0181-343 6270.

Nick


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Jean TANNENBAUM, Sech BLOFSTEIN Phila.Area #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

My KRAMER family research has not progressed as much as I would like it
to. I have some information, and it all seems to be about my immediate
KRAMER relatives (at this point that's only my mother). I know that
there are other KRAMER relatives out there, but I just have not been
successful in finding any of them. Yes, I have tried online phone
directories, but didn't have much luck. There is what I do know:

My mother's father was a KRAMER. Unfortunately, Kramer is all too common
a name to make researching it very difficult, unless one has some very
definite information. In the case of my mgf's family I don't have
much. I know that there were four brothers (Benjamin, Louis, Zolmon,
and Bernard) KRAMER. I know that MY mggf, Louis KRAMER came to America
in October 1885. I know that he probably came with his older brother,
Benjamin. Louis was born in September 1867. Benjamin was born April
1865. I know about these two brothers >from 1891 on. Benjamin died in
1893, in Lancaster, PA. Louis married in 1891 and was naturalized two
months later.

Here, in outline form is what I know of Zolmon and Bernard and their
families:

ZOLMON KRAMER m. ?
Barney KRAMER m. Lena ?
Dorothy KRAMER m. Jack NERENBERG
Leon KRAMER m. Ruth ?

BERNARD KRAMER m. ?
Isadore KRAMER m. ?
Morris KRAMER m. Ruth ?
Samuel KRAMER m. Bea ?
Morris KRAMER m. Lena SAMUELS
"Sech" KRAMER m. Ben BLOFSTEIN
(Ben was a pharmacist)
Burt BLOFSTEIN (died at age of 24)
(Burt was a college student at the time of his death)
Jean KRAMER m. Jerry TANNENBAUM
(Jerry was a merchandise mgr.
for women's clothing)
b: 1/14/1930, Phila., PA
m: 1/3/1954, Phila., PA
Stuart TANNENBAUM m. Wendy ?
(Stuart may be a jeweler)
b: 3/13/1955, Phila., PA

I know that that's not much to go on, but I'm hoping that someone
recognizes somebody in this outline. The last we knew of Jean Kramer
TANNENBAUM was that she and her husband were living in Dresher, PA.
Two years ago, when I was in Philly, I tried to find them in a phone
directory. Either they have an unlisted phone number, or they're living
in someone else's home. I have looked in online phone directories, but
to no avail.

I tried writing and calling the BLOFSTEIN folks listed in the Phila., PA
area (Elkins Park to be more precise). My letters never come back and
they never get answered. I phoned the place where I believe the family
lives, but the woman who answered the phone probably suffered >from a
stroke that affected her ability to speak. I could not understand
anything that she was saying to me. I have the feeling that she knew
the answers to the questions I was asking, but our communication was
ZIP! She sounded so frustrated. I knew how she felt.

Is there anyone in the area who can help me out with this one. My luck
with my mother's family hasn't been the best. I keep following leads
that go nowhere. I'd like to find these cousins for my mother. My luck
for my father's family has been great of late. Would that I'd have some
with Mom's.

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>


Searching Jean TANNENBAUM, Sech BLOFSTEIN Phila.Area #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

My KRAMER family research has not progressed as much as I would like it
to. I have some information, and it all seems to be about my immediate
KRAMER relatives (at this point that's only my mother). I know that
there are other KRAMER relatives out there, but I just have not been
successful in finding any of them. Yes, I have tried online phone
directories, but didn't have much luck. There is what I do know:

My mother's father was a KRAMER. Unfortunately, Kramer is all too common
a name to make researching it very difficult, unless one has some very
definite information. In the case of my mgf's family I don't have
much. I know that there were four brothers (Benjamin, Louis, Zolmon,
and Bernard) KRAMER. I know that MY mggf, Louis KRAMER came to America
in October 1885. I know that he probably came with his older brother,
Benjamin. Louis was born in September 1867. Benjamin was born April
1865. I know about these two brothers >from 1891 on. Benjamin died in
1893, in Lancaster, PA. Louis married in 1891 and was naturalized two
months later.

Here, in outline form is what I know of Zolmon and Bernard and their
families:

ZOLMON KRAMER m. ?
Barney KRAMER m. Lena ?
Dorothy KRAMER m. Jack NERENBERG
Leon KRAMER m. Ruth ?

BERNARD KRAMER m. ?
Isadore KRAMER m. ?
Morris KRAMER m. Ruth ?
Samuel KRAMER m. Bea ?
Morris KRAMER m. Lena SAMUELS
"Sech" KRAMER m. Ben BLOFSTEIN
(Ben was a pharmacist)
Burt BLOFSTEIN (died at age of 24)
(Burt was a college student at the time of his death)
Jean KRAMER m. Jerry TANNENBAUM
(Jerry was a merchandise mgr.
for women's clothing)
b: 1/14/1930, Phila., PA
m: 1/3/1954, Phila., PA
Stuart TANNENBAUM m. Wendy ?
(Stuart may be a jeweler)
b: 3/13/1955, Phila., PA

I know that that's not much to go on, but I'm hoping that someone
recognizes somebody in this outline. The last we knew of Jean Kramer
TANNENBAUM was that she and her husband were living in Dresher, PA.
Two years ago, when I was in Philly, I tried to find them in a phone
directory. Either they have an unlisted phone number, or they're living
in someone else's home. I have looked in online phone directories, but
to no avail.

I tried writing and calling the BLOFSTEIN folks listed in the Phila., PA
area (Elkins Park to be more precise). My letters never come back and
they never get answered. I phoned the place where I believe the family
lives, but the woman who answered the phone probably suffered >from a
stroke that affected her ability to speak. I could not understand
anything that she was saying to me. I have the feeling that she knew
the answers to the questions I was asking, but our communication was
ZIP! She sounded so frustrated. I knew how she felt.

Is there anyone in the area who can help me out with this one. My luck
with my mother's family hasn't been the best. I keep following leads
that go nowhere. I'd like to find these cousins for my mother. My luck
for my father's family has been great of late. Would that I'd have some
with Mom's.

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The MARKEEN Hotel/Apartments #general

Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson <tracibear@...>
 

The Markeen was listed as the First Fire-Proof Apartment bldg. errected
in the city of Buffalo. My grandfather was said to have owned or at
least run these apartments for a period of time. This bldg no longer
exists, I have the perspectus on the bldg which my uncle found, but would
love to find someone who has a personal account. Someone who possibly
lived there, remembers my grandparents Ben & Sara KAPE. My mother
remembers playing & working there as a young girl. Her name is Helaine.
She remembers it being very elegant for the time. I was looking for the
year this would have been erected, but have been unable to find this.
Location was on the corner of Utica & Main streets. On the diagram it
shows that it was across the street >from All Saints P. E. Church. It
looks like it was roughly 8 - 10 blocks >from the outer edge of Forrest
Lawn Cemetary according to the diagram.

If this rings any bells for anyone, please contact me at;
Tracibear@... or Tracibear@...

Thanks,
Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson


The MARKEEN Hotel/Apartments #general

Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson <tracibear@...>
 

The Markeen was listed as the First Fire-Proof Apartment bldg. errected
in the city of Buffalo. My grandfather was said to have owned or at
least run these apartments for a period of time. This bldg no longer
exists, I have the perspectus on the bldg which my uncle found, but would
love to find someone who has a personal account. Someone who possibly
lived there, remembers my grandparents Ben & Sara KAPE. My mother
remembers playing & working there as a young girl. Her name is Helaine.
She remembers it being very elegant for the time. I was looking for the
year this would have been erected, but have been unable to find this.
Location was on the corner of Utica & Main streets. On the diagram it
shows that it was across the street >from All Saints P. E. Church. It
looks like it was roughly 8 - 10 blocks >from the outer edge of Forrest
Lawn Cemetary according to the diagram.

If this rings any bells for anyone, please contact me at;
Tracibear@... or Tracibear@...

Thanks,
Traci :-)
Traci S. K. Thysell-McPherson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching YARESHEFSKY, Sam - Odessa ----> Brooklyn, NY/USA #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Morning All,

In this post, I am searching for information on YARESHEFSKY.
I'd like to hear >from anyone with info on the YARESHEFSKY family
(Sam/Sarah),Bklyn, NY (1900-48),>from Odessa, Ukraine.
GF Sam YARESHEFSKY arrived Port of NY, circa May 1900.

2 Brothers followed >from Odessa (1905-1910): David & Morris.
Derivative spellings for GF's name are:

YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,
JAROCHEWSKI, YARREY, YOUNG, YAROSH, YARESH.

This is an on-going search for family, as I have already searched/posted
to JG Family Finder (Researcher #7493); Consulted 1920 Census records;
Searched for GF's Declaration
of Intention (for US citizenship); Searched at Utah in the
Mormon Church records, etc. All have yielded up nothing.

If the above rings a bell, please reply.

Thank you very much,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493


Searching YARESHEFSKY, Sam - Odessa ----> Brooklyn, NY/USA #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Morning All,

In this post, I am searching for information on YARESHEFSKY.
I'd like to hear >from anyone with info on the YARESHEFSKY family
(Sam/Sarah),Bklyn, NY (1900-48),>from Odessa, Ukraine.
GF Sam YARESHEFSKY arrived Port of NY, circa May 1900.

2 Brothers followed >from Odessa (1905-1910): David & Morris.
Derivative spellings for GF's name are:

YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,
JAROCHEWSKI, YARREY, YOUNG, YAROSH, YARESH.

This is an on-going search for family, as I have already searched/posted
to JG Family Finder (Researcher #7493); Consulted 1920 Census records;
Searched for GF's Declaration
of Intention (for US citizenship); Searched at Utah in the
Mormon Church records, etc. All have yielded up nothing.

If the above rings a bell, please reply.

Thank you very much,

Charles F. Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JGFF Researcher #7493


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Tracing a Kohen (with note on Nebenzahls and genetics) #general

David Cooper <dcooper@...>
 

I also believed this, but I'm not so sure any more. A Galicia researcher
on this list and I have a common family name (Nebenzahl) which supposedly
is a single family. Although the male Nebenzahls of my family essentially
"daughtered out," the Nebenzahl men in my line were Kohanim. However,
this researcher told me that the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim,
and explained that he found in his research evidence of some matrilineal
transmission which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His
argument is interesting food for thought.
I have been told by a Chasedic (sp ?) rabbi that being a Kohaniem is
passed via the father. If I remember right, he also said that the mother
must be Jewish -- i.e. if the mother is Jewish and the father is a
Kohaniem, then the sons will be kohaniem.

...david

dcooper@...
Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,FLEISHMAN,POSNER
(POIZNER),PRITIKIN
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/


Re: Tracing a Kohen (with note on Nebenzahls and genetics) #general

David Cooper <dcooper@...>
 

I also believed this, but I'm not so sure any more. A Galicia researcher
on this list and I have a common family name (Nebenzahl) which supposedly
is a single family. Although the male Nebenzahls of my family essentially
"daughtered out," the Nebenzahl men in my line were Kohanim. However,
this researcher told me that the Nebenzahls in Galicia were not Kohanim,
and explained that he found in his research evidence of some matrilineal
transmission which might explain why my Nebenzahls are Kohanim. His
argument is interesting food for thought.
I have been told by a Chasedic (sp ?) rabbi that being a Kohaniem is
passed via the father. If I remember right, he also said that the mother
must be Jewish -- i.e. if the mother is Jewish and the father is a
Kohaniem, then the sons will be kohaniem.

...david

dcooper@...
Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,FLEISHMAN,POSNER
(POIZNER),PRITIKIN
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/o/David--Cooper/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish words #general

warshall@...
 

I am trying to translate parts of a Yizkor book and need
help with a few Yiddish words:

1. a broken-down wagon is described as "tsushedikt"

2. a collapsed horse is described as "gepeygert"

3. several groups of Jews are mentioned: shopkeepers,
butchers and "konyukhes"

4. a large public space is called a "rebeleh"

5. an impromptu flag is tied to an "eteseh"

6. a clumsy foolish fellow is called (among other names) a "latutnik"

7. Weinreich's dictionary says that "kitka" means a bit of putty, but
that doesn't fit in my context: a dancing Hasid is clapping two of
them together. Is there another meaning for the word?

Thanks in advance. I can make shrewd guesses about most of these, but
I hope somebody in this talented group really knows.


Stephen Warshall <warshall@...>
Gloucester, MA


Yiddish words #general

warshall@...
 

I am trying to translate parts of a Yizkor book and need
help with a few Yiddish words:

1. a broken-down wagon is described as "tsushedikt"

2. a collapsed horse is described as "gepeygert"

3. several groups of Jews are mentioned: shopkeepers,
butchers and "konyukhes"

4. a large public space is called a "rebeleh"

5. an impromptu flag is tied to an "eteseh"

6. a clumsy foolish fellow is called (among other names) a "latutnik"

7. Weinreich's dictionary says that "kitka" means a bit of putty, but
that doesn't fit in my context: a dancing Hasid is clapping two of
them together. Is there another meaning for the word?

Thanks in advance. I can make shrewd guesses about most of these, but
I hope somebody in this talented group really knows.


Stephen Warshall <warshall@...>
Gloucester, MA