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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Trip to the Ukraine #hungary

Blrosen@...
 

Just a few notes on our trip to the Ukraine this summer with Louis Schonfeld
and Family Tree:

Berehovo/Berehi/all the towns we went through in the Ukraine look like they
must have looked 100 years ago. The people looked worn and haggard. In
Berehovo, there is a large square (I bought a post card dated 1978) where
there had been a statue of Lenin -- no longer there. The synagogue was
replaced by a music hall. Gypsy beggar children were all over us -- touching,
always touching. In Berehovo (as in other towns), there was a market --
people brought their wares, bread, chickens and fish(no refrigeration -- just
laying there in 104 degrees covered with flies), eggs, etc. Outside of
Berehovo, we saw horse-driven carts -- I did not see any mechanization at all.

We ate breakfast at the hotel in Mukechevo -- eggs were safe -- scrambled,
well done. Dinner was always at a nice restaurant. We brought (>from home)
food for lunch -- raisins, tuna fish, crackers, trailmix, cheese/crackers,
granola bars, etc. -- ate in the bus. Before we reached the border, we bought
bottled water (gas or still) for drinking, brushing our teeth. We were told
not to have dairy products (poor refrigeration), water, salad (which would be
washed in the water). A few of the people ate those things anyway and were
fine. I did not take a chance.

The roads were in very poor condition. The gravestones were in Hebrew.

We were very comfortable in an air-conditioned bus but outside of Budapest and
throughout the Ukraine, of course no AC --- no screens on the windows and lots
and lots of mosquitoes. Also we noticed that fans are almost unheard of --
only one restaurant had one. The locals did not seem to mind the 104 degree
heat even though it was a heat wave they are not used to.

We went through the following villages, stopping at cemeteries and "talking"
to the locals -- Berehi, Botrad, Kaszony, Lalovo, Drahovo, Lipsha, Hust,
Fekete Ardo and Vinogradov. The larger towns were Berehovo, Uzhgorod and
Mukechevo. In Lalovo, we "communicated" with the children with Life Savers
and chewing gum and with the adults through our interpreters. They were all
very friendly. It must have been the biggest event in the past 50 years,
because it seems like the whole town came out to see what the excitement was.
We walked through some of the villages -- it was an emotional experience for
me since my mother and her family probably walked the same streets.

More later

Szia
Betty Rosen

Re: Trip to the Ukraine #hungary

Blrosen@...
 

Just a few notes on our trip to the Ukraine this summer with Louis Schonfeld
and Family Tree:

Berehovo/Berehi/all the towns we went through in the Ukraine look like they
must have looked 100 years ago. The people looked worn and haggard. In
Berehovo, there is a large square (I bought a post card dated 1978) where
there had been a statue of Lenin -- no longer there. The synagogue was
replaced by a music hall. Gypsy beggar children were all over us -- touching,
always touching. In Berehovo (as in other towns), there was a market --
people brought their wares, bread, chickens and fish(no refrigeration -- just
laying there in 104 degrees covered with flies), eggs, etc. Outside of
Berehovo, we saw horse-driven carts -- I did not see any mechanization at all.

We ate breakfast at the hotel in Mukechevo -- eggs were safe -- scrambled,
well done. Dinner was always at a nice restaurant. We brought (>from home)
food for lunch -- raisins, tuna fish, crackers, trailmix, cheese/crackers,
granola bars, etc. -- ate in the bus. Before we reached the border, we bought
bottled water (gas or still) for drinking, brushing our teeth. We were told
not to have dairy products (poor refrigeration), water, salad (which would be
washed in the water). A few of the people ate those things anyway and were
fine. I did not take a chance.

The roads were in very poor condition. The gravestones were in Hebrew.

We were very comfortable in an air-conditioned bus but outside of Budapest and
throughout the Ukraine, of course no AC --- no screens on the windows and lots
and lots of mosquitoes. Also we noticed that fans are almost unheard of --
only one restaurant had one. The locals did not seem to mind the 104 degree
heat even though it was a heat wave they are not used to.

We went through the following villages, stopping at cemeteries and "talking"
to the locals -- Berehi, Botrad, Kaszony, Lalovo, Drahovo, Lipsha, Hust,
Fekete Ardo and Vinogradov. The larger towns were Berehovo, Uzhgorod and
Mukechevo. In Lalovo, we "communicated" with the children with Life Savers
and chewing gum and with the adults through our interpreters. They were all
very friendly. It must have been the biggest event in the past 50 years,
because it seems like the whole town came out to see what the excitement was.
We walked through some of the villages -- it was an emotional experience for
me since my mother and her family probably walked the same streets.

More later

Szia
Betty Rosen

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching TUBALOV/KOVALENKO - Kharkov, Ukraine #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Morning, JewishGen colleagues -

Finally back after absences for business, and desiring to ask your
advice for a friend who believes his grandparent's true ancestry may be
Jewish in whole or part. My friend's name is Dr. Virgil Kovalenko of
Salt Lake City, Utah.

I have done a Family Finder search on his family already, and will
shortly be posting his data in the Finder's Data Base. In the interim,
he asks if anyone knows anyrthing about this family and can provide him
with information a/o basic insights.

(1) TUBALOV, Maria Fedorovna of Kharkov, Russia [Ukraine];
Name may be known as - TUBOLOFF, TOOBOLOV, TOOBALOFF.

Died - Melitopol,Ukraine, circa 1923; Buried in original
central cemetery next to husband, KOVALENKO, Nikolai Kuzmich

(2) KOVALENKO, Nikolai Kuzmich - Kharkov, Sumi, Feodosia or Melitopol,
Russia [Ukraine]. Also - KOVALENKO, Kuzma of Kharkov, Russia [Ukraine]

Nikolai died 1905 during revolution. At death, he was station master
on railroad north of present city of Melitopol.

The central cemetery was eliminated when city expanded.
All interred were reburied in common graves outside of city limits
near present site of small (name ?) Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

As my friend, Dr. Kovalenko, is a Mormon and in SLC he is already trying
the Mormon Family History facilities. What he suffers >from currently is
info >from the Jewish vantage point on the area/s cited and the names.

E-Mails can be posted back to me <cfphrai@...> a/o Dr.
Virgil Kovalenko <vasaa@...>, or posted to the Discussion Group,
if of common interest to others.

Best regards,

Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JFF Research No.7493

Hungary SIG #Hungary Ellis Island Wall of Honor #hungary

Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I'm sure most of you know about this site, but just in case, I thought it
best to post it. Through this site I just now found long lost relatives
that my father and I have been looking for ever since we began our
genealogical expedition.

The tricky part of utilizing this website is that there's no mention of who
had the honorees listed. The solution is to call the correct office at
Ellis Island, to give whatever information you got >from the website, and to
ask them to tell you the names of the donors and the town and state of
residence (they won't give out addresses and phone numbers, understandably).
At this point you have two possibilities. One is to send a letter to Ellis
Island and have them forward it to the correct people. The other is to get
on Yahoo People Search, or some similar search engine, and find them that way.

If you haven't checked this site out recently, definitely take a look. Bear
in mind that many of the donors do not have internet access, and therefore
the Wall of Honor contains a different database than other ones which rely
solely on internet contributions.

Be forewarned--this site can be miserably slow at times. Be patient.

The @ddress is:

http://www.wallofhonor.com/wallofhonor/search_f.asp

The phone number of Ellis Island is:

212-883-1986

Their address is:

Ellis Island Foundation
52 Vanderbilt Avenue
New York, NY 10017-3898

Yahoo People Search's @ddress is:

http://www.yahoo.com/search/people/


Good Luck!!!

Robert

Searching TUBALOV/KOVALENKO - Kharkov, Ukraine #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Morning, JewishGen colleagues -

Finally back after absences for business, and desiring to ask your
advice for a friend who believes his grandparent's true ancestry may be
Jewish in whole or part. My friend's name is Dr. Virgil Kovalenko of
Salt Lake City, Utah.

I have done a Family Finder search on his family already, and will
shortly be posting his data in the Finder's Data Base. In the interim,
he asks if anyone knows anyrthing about this family and can provide him
with information a/o basic insights.

(1) TUBALOV, Maria Fedorovna of Kharkov, Russia [Ukraine];
Name may be known as - TUBOLOFF, TOOBOLOV, TOOBALOFF.

Died - Melitopol,Ukraine, circa 1923; Buried in original
central cemetery next to husband, KOVALENKO, Nikolai Kuzmich

(2) KOVALENKO, Nikolai Kuzmich - Kharkov, Sumi, Feodosia or Melitopol,
Russia [Ukraine]. Also - KOVALENKO, Kuzma of Kharkov, Russia [Ukraine]

Nikolai died 1905 during revolution. At death, he was station master
on railroad north of present city of Melitopol.

The central cemetery was eliminated when city expanded.
All interred were reburied in common graves outside of city limits
near present site of small (name ?) Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

As my friend, Dr. Kovalenko, is a Mormon and in SLC he is already trying
the Mormon Family History facilities. What he suffers >from currently is
info >from the Jewish vantage point on the area/s cited and the names.

E-Mails can be posted back to me <cfphrai@...> a/o Dr.
Virgil Kovalenko <vasaa@...>, or posted to the Discussion Group,
if of common interest to others.

Best regards,

Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
JFF Research No.7493

Ellis Island Wall of Honor #hungary

Robert & Sarah Klein <hamoreh@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I'm sure most of you know about this site, but just in case, I thought it
best to post it. Through this site I just now found long lost relatives
that my father and I have been looking for ever since we began our
genealogical expedition.

The tricky part of utilizing this website is that there's no mention of who
had the honorees listed. The solution is to call the correct office at
Ellis Island, to give whatever information you got >from the website, and to
ask them to tell you the names of the donors and the town and state of
residence (they won't give out addresses and phone numbers, understandably).
At this point you have two possibilities. One is to send a letter to Ellis
Island and have them forward it to the correct people. The other is to get
on Yahoo People Search, or some similar search engine, and find them that way.

If you haven't checked this site out recently, definitely take a look. Bear
in mind that many of the donors do not have internet access, and therefore
the Wall of Honor contains a different database than other ones which rely
solely on internet contributions.

Be forewarned--this site can be miserably slow at times. Be patient.

The @ddress is:

http://www.wallofhonor.com/wallofhonor/search_f.asp

The phone number of Ellis Island is:

212-883-1986

Their address is:

Ellis Island Foundation
52 Vanderbilt Avenue
New York, NY 10017-3898

Yahoo People Search's @ddress is:

http://www.yahoo.com/search/people/


Good Luck!!!

Robert

Hungary SIG #Hungary change of e-mail address #hungary

Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...>
 

Please note:

Effective immediately - Sunday September 6, 1998, 7:00 a.m., my new
e-mail address is
nrosen@...

Any messages sent since Saturday night to the old address should be
re-transmitted.

The old address is no longer valid. You may not necessarily have your
messages "bounce"
back to you until next week, but I will not receive them. Therefore, use
only the new address.

Regards,

Nathan Rosenshein and Family
5504 Alpine
Cote St. Luc (Montreal)
Canada

Hungary SIG #Hungary Immigration regulations #hungary

e. donath <edonath@...>
 

During the time when Eisenhower was president would it have been
possible for a former member of the Nazi Party to have come to the
United States? Would his wife being Jewish have any bearing on it?
Genealogy does lead one down strange alleys!
Thanks for any help.
E. L. Donath

change of e-mail address #hungary

Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...>
 

Please note:

Effective immediately - Sunday September 6, 1998, 7:00 a.m., my new
e-mail address is
nrosen@...

Any messages sent since Saturday night to the old address should be
re-transmitted.

The old address is no longer valid. You may not necessarily have your
messages "bounce"
back to you until next week, but I will not receive them. Therefore, use
only the new address.

Regards,

Nathan Rosenshein and Family
5504 Alpine
Cote St. Luc (Montreal)
Canada

Immigration regulations #hungary

e. donath <edonath@...>
 

During the time when Eisenhower was president would it have been
possible for a former member of the Nazi Party to have come to the
United States? Would his wife being Jewish have any bearing on it?
Genealogy does lead one down strange alleys!
Thanks for any help.
E. L. Donath

Hungary SIG #Hungary Toth Kajnya Records #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

On 9/6/98, you wrote ....


Subject: Tot Kajna/Sloveska Kajna
From: "Marc B. Weiss" <marcplot@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:32:44 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Can any one help me determine, for the Tot Kajna in old Hungary, Zemplen,=

now Sloveska Kajna in Slovakia:

1) What rolls of LDS film contain the recods for the 1848 Census, the 186=
9
Census,, vital records of any period.

2) What office in Slovakia would now house vital records covering 19th
century, 20th century.

Thanks.
Marc Weiss

The entry in the LDS catalog for the 1848 Census does not include Zemplen.
The LDS did film the 1869 Census >from Toth Kajnya (Slovenska Kajna). This
info is on Film #0720012. 19th Century vital records would probably be in
the Presov archive. Address is

Statny oblastny archiv v Presove
088 06 Presov-Nizna Sebastova
Slanska ul. c. 33
Slovak Republic

vivian Kahn
vkahn@...

Toth Kajnya Records #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

On 9/6/98, you wrote ....


Subject: Tot Kajna/Sloveska Kajna
From: "Marc B. Weiss" <marcplot@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:32:44 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Can any one help me determine, for the Tot Kajna in old Hungary, Zemplen,=

now Sloveska Kajna in Slovakia:

1) What rolls of LDS film contain the recods for the 1848 Census, the 186=
9
Census,, vital records of any period.

2) What office in Slovakia would now house vital records covering 19th
century, 20th century.

Thanks.
Marc Weiss

The entry in the LDS catalog for the 1848 Census does not include Zemplen.
The LDS did film the 1869 Census >from Toth Kajnya (Slovenska Kajna). This
info is on Film #0720012. 19th Century vital records would probably be in
the Presov archive. Address is

Statny oblastny archiv v Presove
088 06 Presov-Nizna Sebastova
Slanska ul. c. 33
Slovak Republic

vivian Kahn
vkahn@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obituaries? #general

David Zeit <davezeit@...>
 

I am new hers so if this is out of line, sorry. I want to get copies of
obits for my grandfather, grandmother and my grandfather's 2nd wife. I
know place of death and approximate times. Is there anyone here who
could help? I'd need some one in or near Miami, Cleveland, and
Steubenville. PLease E me if you can help or suggest other sources. I'm
not sure it's safe to share too much personal information on the web
itself.

Thank you so much,

David Zeit

Hungary SIG #Hungary Phone directories on the Web #hungary

Margarita <uzidog@...>
 

There is a Web Page that has an index to almost all of the on-line telephone
directories. It also has links to e-mail directories and an interesting link
to Place Names.

http://www.contractjobs.com/tel/



Margarita Lackó
Belgrano
uzidog@...

Obituaries? #general

David Zeit <davezeit@...>
 

I am new hers so if this is out of line, sorry. I want to get copies of
obits for my grandfather, grandmother and my grandfather's 2nd wife. I
know place of death and approximate times. Is there anyone here who
could help? I'd need some one in or near Miami, Cleveland, and
Steubenville. PLease E me if you can help or suggest other sources. I'm
not sure it's safe to share too much personal information on the web
itself.

Thank you so much,

David Zeit

Phone directories on the Web #hungary

Margarita <uzidog@...>
 

There is a Web Page that has an index to almost all of the on-line telephone
directories. It also has links to e-mail directories and an interesting link
to Place Names.

http://www.contractjobs.com/tel/



Margarita Lackó
Belgrano
uzidog@...

Hungary SIG #Hungary 1928 Zemplen Census #hungary

melody gross <melody@...>
 

If anyone has access to the 1928 Census for Zemplen, could you please check
if any people >from Stropkov appear? Do I understand correctly that this
census is a landowner's census, for tax purposes? So that means that any
other Jews in the town would be renting? Yes? Or, as they say in
Slovakian, he?

Sorry, just returned and couldn't resist!



Melody Amsel Gross in sunny Beersheva, Israel
melody@...
searching: AMSEL/Stropkov, Olka, Vraanov,
Michalovce, Humenne, and anywhere
BAUM/Stropkov, Okruhle
LANDAU/Humenne, Ladimirova
RITTER/Stropkov, Chotca
SCHWARTZ,SCHONFELD/Stropkov
ZAZULIA,BECKER,POLLACK,MORGENSTERN/
Navastelitza, Chotin, Klishkovitz

1928 Zemplen Census #hungary

melody gross <melody@...>
 

If anyone has access to the 1928 Census for Zemplen, could you please check
if any people >from Stropkov appear? Do I understand correctly that this
census is a landowner's census, for tax purposes? So that means that any
other Jews in the town would be renting? Yes? Or, as they say in
Slovakian, he?

Sorry, just returned and couldn't resist!



Melody Amsel Gross in sunny Beersheva, Israel
melody@...
searching: AMSEL/Stropkov, Olka, Vraanov,
Michalovce, Humenne, and anywhere
BAUM/Stropkov, Okruhle
LANDAU/Humenne, Ladimirova
RITTER/Stropkov, Chotca
SCHWARTZ,SCHONFELD/Stropkov
ZAZULIA,BECKER,POLLACK,MORGENSTERN/
Navastelitza, Chotin, Klishkovitz

Hungary SIG #Hungary Names from #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

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Following is a list of names that appear in Robert Perlman's Bridging Three
Worlds. Not all of these names are included in the index. Please contact me
by e-mail if you would like more info.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@...
Amsel, Maurice 12-15
Baal Shem Tov 75
Berger, Victor 214
Bettelheim, Rabbi aaron 58, 94, 190-91
Black, Joseph 87, 165
Black, Morris and family 99, 102-4, 208
Butcher (Butler?), Sam 88
Chorin, Rabbi Aaron 57
Drachman, Rabbi Bernard, 227-28
Edlis, Adolph 209
Elsner, Leopold 87
Eotvos, Joseph 40
Eotvos, Karoly 33
Fleischmann, Charles L. 91
Fried, Getzel 131-2
Gerster, Arpad 171
Greenwald, Leopold 75-77
Grosner, Joseph 91
Heilprin, Michael 98-102
Holitser, Louis 157
Horowitz, Osher 118
Huebsch, Rabbi Adolph 189
Kaczer, Illes 5-6, 43
Kann, Robert A. 37-39
Karady, Victor 31, 34
Katzburg, Nathaniel 26, 29-30
Kiss, Jozsef 42
Klein, Rabbi Philip 195-96
Knefler (Knoepfler), Frederick 87
Kohanyi, Tihamer 165, 167, 172
Kohut, Rabbi Alexander 58, 192-3
Kohut, Rebekah 67, 194
Korn, Bertram 86
Korn, Philip 85-6
Korosy, Jozsef 72
Kovacs, Alajos 45, 253-54
Lebowitz, Pepi and Meyer 155
Lederer, Gideon R. 95
Loew, Rabbi Leopold 57, 173
Loth, Joseph 91
Loveman, Bernard 104-108
Lowy, Endre and Aranka 72-73
Lulley, Emanuel 92-93
Mendlowitz, Rabbi Shraga 196
Molnar, Ferenc 43
Morawska, Eva 50
Patai, Joseph 63
Pollack, Esti 65
Pulitzer, Joseph 91
Raphall, Rabbi Morris Jacob 99
Rich, Morris 8 107
Rich, William 95-6, 107
Richter, Morris 90
Scheiber, Alexander 68
Schlesinger, Louis 86-7
Schwartz, Joe (Yosef Schwindler) 156-7
Singer, Sigmund and Victor 125
Sofer, Rabbi Moses (Hatam) 57, 62
Sonneschein, Rabbi Solomon H. 93, 190
Spitzer, Benjamin 83
Steiner, Edward A. 52, 186, 124, 126
Strasser, Adolph 212
Szold, Rabbi Benjamin 86, 94, 100, 192, 194
Szold, Henrietta 194
Taub, Rabbi Eizik the Kalever 59
Teitelbaum, Rabbi Moses 59
Tuska, Rabbi Mordecai and Simon 94 Ujvari, Peter (Pinchas Judah Groszman
43-44
Weinberger, Rabbi Moses 132, 188, 200

Names from #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

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Following is a list of names that appear in Robert Perlman's Bridging Three
Worlds. Not all of these names are included in the index. Please contact me
by e-mail if you would like more info.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@...
Amsel, Maurice 12-15
Baal Shem Tov 75
Berger, Victor 214
Bettelheim, Rabbi aaron 58, 94, 190-91
Black, Joseph 87, 165
Black, Morris and family 99, 102-4, 208
Butcher (Butler?), Sam 88
Chorin, Rabbi Aaron 57
Drachman, Rabbi Bernard, 227-28
Edlis, Adolph 209
Elsner, Leopold 87
Eotvos, Joseph 40
Eotvos, Karoly 33
Fleischmann, Charles L. 91
Fried, Getzel 131-2
Gerster, Arpad 171
Greenwald, Leopold 75-77
Grosner, Joseph 91
Heilprin, Michael 98-102
Holitser, Louis 157
Horowitz, Osher 118
Huebsch, Rabbi Adolph 189
Kaczer, Illes 5-6, 43
Kann, Robert A. 37-39
Karady, Victor 31, 34
Katzburg, Nathaniel 26, 29-30
Kiss, Jozsef 42
Klein, Rabbi Philip 195-96
Knefler (Knoepfler), Frederick 87
Kohanyi, Tihamer 165, 167, 172
Kohut, Rabbi Alexander 58, 192-3
Kohut, Rebekah 67, 194
Korn, Bertram 86
Korn, Philip 85-6
Korosy, Jozsef 72
Kovacs, Alajos 45, 253-54
Lebowitz, Pepi and Meyer 155
Lederer, Gideon R. 95
Loew, Rabbi Leopold 57, 173
Loth, Joseph 91
Loveman, Bernard 104-108
Lowy, Endre and Aranka 72-73
Lulley, Emanuel 92-93
Mendlowitz, Rabbi Shraga 196
Molnar, Ferenc 43
Morawska, Eva 50
Patai, Joseph 63
Pollack, Esti 65
Pulitzer, Joseph 91
Raphall, Rabbi Morris Jacob 99
Rich, Morris 8 107
Rich, William 95-6, 107
Richter, Morris 90
Scheiber, Alexander 68
Schlesinger, Louis 86-7
Schwartz, Joe (Yosef Schwindler) 156-7
Singer, Sigmund and Victor 125
Sofer, Rabbi Moses (Hatam) 57, 62
Sonneschein, Rabbi Solomon H. 93, 190
Spitzer, Benjamin 83
Steiner, Edward A. 52, 186, 124, 126
Strasser, Adolph 212
Szold, Rabbi Benjamin 86, 94, 100, 192, 194
Szold, Henrietta 194
Taub, Rabbi Eizik the Kalever 59
Teitelbaum, Rabbi Moses 59
Tuska, Rabbi Mordecai and Simon 94 Ujvari, Peter (Pinchas Judah Groszman
43-44
Weinberger, Rabbi Moses 132, 188, 200