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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LEVY, Leo and Lillie of Memphis #general

jlipmanson <jlipmanson@...>
 

I posted this a few days ago but have not seen it appear.

Wish to contact descendents of Leo and Lillie Levy who owned Levy's
Department Store in Memphis, Tenn.

In 1926, when they were probably in their 40s or early 50s, the Levys
traveled to Germany with Emil and Julia Lipmanson of Philadelphis, old
friends. I have pictures >from that trip, and one letter >from Lillie Levy
that was written a few years later. The Levy descendents may be
interested in having these materials.

J. Lipmanson

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LEVY, Leo and Lillie of Memphis #general

jlipmanson <jlipmanson@...>
 

I posted this a few days ago but have not seen it appear.

Wish to contact descendents of Leo and Lillie Levy who owned Levy's
Department Store in Memphis, Tenn.

In 1926, when they were probably in their 40s or early 50s, the Levys
traveled to Germany with Emil and Julia Lipmanson of Philadelphis, old
friends. I have pictures >from that trip, and one letter >from Lillie Levy
that was written a few years later. The Levy descendents may be
interested in having these materials.

J. Lipmanson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bogorad (#17, 98/08/14) #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

Early this morning, after I finished scrolling down today's Jewishgen's
message compilation, I went back to bed to read the NY Times. In an article
about the problems immigrants faced when confronted by secret evidence which
they know nothing about and cannot question or refute, the name Louis M.
Bograd appeared. Mr. Bograd is the head of the Prison Project of the American
Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Perhaps Bograd is a contraction of the name
Tina Gam is researching.

If I were Ms. Gam I would do a people search not only on Jewishgen, but
also on Yahoo, and try to find Mark Bogorad, or his mother. I would also note
how many Bogorads and Bograds there are and, if there were not very many,
write to them. Probably she can find Mr. Louis Bograd as well to ask about
his surame and relatives.

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@...
98/08/15

BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD
of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" (
Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?);
RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podvolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of
Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of
Tel-Aviv and Odessa.


Bogorad (#17, 98/08/14) #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

Early this morning, after I finished scrolling down today's Jewishgen's
message compilation, I went back to bed to read the NY Times. In an article
about the problems immigrants faced when confronted by secret evidence which
they know nothing about and cannot question or refute, the name Louis M.
Bograd appeared. Mr. Bograd is the head of the Prison Project of the American
Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Perhaps Bograd is a contraction of the name
Tina Gam is researching.

If I were Ms. Gam I would do a people search not only on Jewishgen, but
also on Yahoo, and try to find Mark Bogorad, or his mother. I would also note
how many Bogorads and Bograds there are and, if there were not very many,
write to them. Probably she can find Mr. Louis Bograd as well to ask about
his surame and relatives.

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@...
98/08/15

BELKOWSKY of Tel-Aviv, Odessa, Kiev, Moscow, Berdichev; LEVY, WEIL, WILLARD
of Mulhouse, Altkirch, Seppois le Bas, Alsace; FELDMAN of "Chelsetz?" (
Kulczyce or Kulchitse or Kulcici?), near L'viv; MEEROVNA of Berdichev(?);
RAPPAPORT or RAPOPORT of Jaffa, Palestine, Podvolochisk and Ternopil; SAS, of
Podwolochisk; ROTHSTEIN, LIBERMAN >from Kiev and Moscow; ZUSMAN or SUSSMAN of
Tel-Aviv and Odessa.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Single women and Ellis Island #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Do we have a clear and definitive answer to the question of whether a
single woman was permitted to enter the US >from Ellis Island? Was it a
matter of law, policy or whim?Did it change over the years?
Not a whim, to the best of my knowledge. In "Crossing & Cruising" the policy
changes is described in detail. I believe it was a matter of law, i.e.
Congressional Law, that was enacted in 1890, and enhanced again and again in
1902 (?) and 1905, 1918, due to influx of immegrants >from Europe. I believe
the law was abandonded somewhere around 1918.

-Yigal Rechtman
+ Yigal Rechtman email: RECHTMAN@... +
+ www.RECHTMAN.com Mirror site:members.aol.com/rechtman
+ Research: RECHTMAN, Suwalk; Augustow;
+ WYBRANCZYK, Lomza; FOGLEMAN, Riga; MILLER,
+ Mazstrow-Maz., Poland; SHER or MARCUS, Kwarsk, Lithuania


Re: Single women and Ellis Island #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Do we have a clear and definitive answer to the question of whether a
single woman was permitted to enter the US >from Ellis Island? Was it a
matter of law, policy or whim?Did it change over the years?
Not a whim, to the best of my knowledge. In "Crossing & Cruising" the policy
changes is described in detail. I believe it was a matter of law, i.e.
Congressional Law, that was enacted in 1890, and enhanced again and again in
1902 (?) and 1905, 1918, due to influx of immegrants >from Europe. I believe
the law was abandonded somewhere around 1918.

-Yigal Rechtman
+ Yigal Rechtman email: RECHTMAN@... +
+ www.RECHTMAN.com Mirror site:members.aol.com/rechtman
+ Research: RECHTMAN, Suwalk; Augustow;
+ WYBRANCZYK, Lomza; FOGLEMAN, Riga; MILLER,
+ Mazstrow-Maz., Poland; SHER or MARCUS, Kwarsk, Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Szapse = Shabbetai? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


Shalom!
I am looking for a translation as to the firstname of Szapse. The origin is
from Austria and the Hebrew Name would be Yitzchak. Thank you
Mike Greenberg
Even though your ancestor's Hebrew name was Yitzchak, the name Szapse does
not correspond to Yitzhak (which is Itzik in Yiddish, Isaac in English
transliteration). Szapse sounds like a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew
name"Shabbsai" (an Ashkenazic pronunciation of Shabbetai.). Perhaps your
ancestor had two names, Shabbetai Yitzchak or vice versa?

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews in the Austrian Army #general

Corin Goodwin <corin@...>
 

Subject: Jews in the Austrian army
From: "Dan Leeson: LEESON@..." <leeson@...>

I just read Daniel Byrne's note about finding out about his family's
experiences in the Austrian army, and while I cannot be of help to
him in his specific search, I do want to mention a book available
from the Austrian Jewish Museum in Eisenstadt. The title is
"Jews in the Armed Forces of Austria, 1788-1918."

The book costs ATS 160 including shipping.
Fwiw, I got it for a little over a week >from my local library through
Inter Library Loan. It was made available through UCLA at no charge.

//Corin Barsily Goodwin
Cupertino, CA USA


Szapse = Shabbetai? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


Shalom!
I am looking for a translation as to the firstname of Szapse. The origin is
from Austria and the Hebrew Name would be Yitzchak. Thank you
Mike Greenberg
Even though your ancestor's Hebrew name was Yitzchak, the name Szapse does
not correspond to Yitzhak (which is Itzik in Yiddish, Isaac in English
transliteration). Szapse sounds like a Yiddish abbreviation of the Hebrew
name"Shabbsai" (an Ashkenazic pronunciation of Shabbetai.). Perhaps your
ancestor had two names, Shabbetai Yitzchak or vice versa?

Judith Romney Wegner


Jews in the Austrian Army #general

Corin Goodwin <corin@...>
 

Subject: Jews in the Austrian army
From: "Dan Leeson: LEESON@..." <leeson@...>

I just read Daniel Byrne's note about finding out about his family's
experiences in the Austrian army, and while I cannot be of help to
him in his specific search, I do want to mention a book available
from the Austrian Jewish Museum in Eisenstadt. The title is
"Jews in the Armed Forces of Austria, 1788-1918."

The book costs ATS 160 including shipping.
Fwiw, I got it for a little over a week >from my local library through
Inter Library Loan. It was made available through UCLA at no charge.

//Corin Barsily Goodwin
Cupertino, CA USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Records - cause of death #general

Schamroth <scham@...>
 

The Polish Gen group has done a wonderful job in preparing a Help List
showing the Polish terms for various job descriptions. This list can be
viewed and downloaded >from the JRI-Poland Home page.

After perusing several Polish death records, I feel that a similar list,
but dealing with the causes of death, would be an immense help.

Is there already such a list? If not, is their anyone out there who
could begin transcribing the Polish words related to cause of death. I
don't think that there would be many entries ...probably less than 100
to 150.

Julian Schamroth


Polish Records - cause of death #general

Schamroth <scham@...>
 

The Polish Gen group has done a wonderful job in preparing a Help List
showing the Polish terms for various job descriptions. This list can be
viewed and downloaded >from the JRI-Poland Home page.

After perusing several Polish death records, I feel that a similar list,
but dealing with the causes of death, would be an immense help.

Is there already such a list? If not, is their anyone out there who
could begin transcribing the Polish words related to cause of death. I
don't think that there would be many entries ...probably less than 100
to 150.

Julian Schamroth


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger Lists #general

Mark Olanoff <molanoff1@...>
 

Does anyone know if there is a website that contains Passenger Lists on
arrivals >from Ellis Island?

Thanks. (Please reply to my email).......


Passenger Lists #general

Mark Olanoff <molanoff1@...>
 

Does anyone know if there is a website that contains Passenger Lists on
arrivals >from Ellis Island?

Thanks. (Please reply to my email).......


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

I came across a most unusual Jewish surname of a person that married into my
family in Lomza Gubernia, Poland: ZWAWY and ZWAWA.

I'm pretty sure it's a distinct surname >from the much more common Szwab
(Schwab).

Does anyone know how the "Zw" would in ZWAWY would be pronounced in Polish?

Any suggestions on a possible "English" equivalent to look for in case the
family emigrated?

Thanks,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@...


Surname #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

I came across a most unusual Jewish surname of a person that married into my
family in Lomza Gubernia, Poland: ZWAWY and ZWAWA.

I'm pretty sure it's a distinct surname >from the much more common Szwab
(Schwab).

Does anyone know how the "Zw" would in ZWAWY would be pronounced in Polish?

Any suggestions on a possible "English" equivalent to look for in case the
family emigrated?

Thanks,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: ELBET(ALBERT), Argentina & GOLDBERG (kibbutz Yagur) #general

sam herstein <sam1925@...>
 

I am trying to locate relatives in Argentina and Israel.
The family in Argentina would be ELBET(ALBERT) >from LIbovne ,Russia.
The family in Israel would be >from kibbutz Yagur.The relative would be
from the
family of Zipporah Aloni Goldberg.


Searching: ELBET(ALBERT), Argentina & GOLDBERG (kibbutz Yagur) #general

sam herstein <sam1925@...>
 

I am trying to locate relatives in Argentina and Israel.
The family in Argentina would be ELBET(ALBERT) >from LIbovne ,Russia.
The family in Israel would be >from kibbutz Yagur.The relative would be
from the
family of Zipporah Aloni Goldberg.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Litvaks, Pollacks, Galicianers and whatever #general

haim harutz <yairharu@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,
Issy Fine >from Canada, with his interesting posting on Belarus/Ukraine has
gone and triggered me off again. I feel that I must throw in my
halfpenny's worth about Eastern-Eurropean Jewry. To anyone who may be bored
by my ravings, I beg your forgiveness in advance.

The Jews in Eastern Europe have, apparently, been there for hundreds of
years, and some communities trace their histories back for a thousand
years or more. The origins vary, but it appears that, for the most part,
the basis of the Jewish communities in Eastern Europe comes >from Jews who
settled the Rhineland region of Western Germany/Eastern France during the
period of the Roman Empire and, for various reasons, gradually spread
eastwards and northwards into Central and Eastern Europe.

Because of the generally disorganized and unstable nature of European
Society >from the fall of the Roman Empire until recent times, Jewish
community life has not always been too stable either, and one could find,
in parts of eastern Europe, other influences as well (remnants of the
Spanish exile, Jews >from Khazaria, Karaites, and others) who may have, in
one way or another, influenced local communities.
This would on, the one hand, explain the prevalence of Yiddish ( a dialect
of medieval or old German, or what is sometimes called Plat-Deutch - Flat
German), in many ways similar to some German dialects spoken today in
South-West Germany/Switzerland, with a further Hebrew and possibly Slavic
influence, among Eastern European Jews, while, on the other hand, it
might explain dialectical variations within the Yiddish of various regions.

[By the way, I have a very funny anecdote to tell about this. My late
mother, though born in South Africa, spoke a very fluent Litvak-Yiddish,
as well as English and South African-Dutch. Her younger sister, who spoke
Yiddish, but not so fluently, married a Jew >from Switzerland, and went to
live in Zurich in the 1960's. On one visit to her sister, my mother once
got into a conversation with a neighbour who speaks only German (the
local version). My mother, who knows no German, spoke in Litvak-Yiddish,
and managed to get by reasonably well. A few days later, my aunt told my
mother that the neighbour had commented very flatterngly about her, and
that she had been very impressed that "A visitor >from Africa could speak
such marvelous Schwitzerdeutsch. In fact, she speaks it much better than
you do, and you've been living here for years!"]

To cut a long story short, Eastern/Central European Jewry could be roughly
subdivided into three or four groups: i.e. those who where under German
influence, those who were under Russian influence, those who were
Austro-Hungarian influence and, maybe, those who retained some
independence, (at least for some of the time), >from all these influences.
One must remember that the whole area with large Jewish populations (at
least, so it was before the Nazi era), spreading roughly >from the Baltic
to the Black Sea, and >from the Ukraine/Russia border to Western Germany,
has been bouncing backwards and forwards, through a series of wars and
other major upheavals, between various empires for five hundred years or
more. Given the almost anarchic conditions prevailing for much of this
period in this part of Europe, it's amazing that Jews survived at all,
never mind flourish.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.


Litvaks, Pollacks, Galicianers and whatever #general

haim harutz <yairharu@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,
Issy Fine >from Canada, with his interesting posting on Belarus/Ukraine has
gone and triggered me off again. I feel that I must throw in my
halfpenny's worth about Eastern-Eurropean Jewry. To anyone who may be bored
by my ravings, I beg your forgiveness in advance.

The Jews in Eastern Europe have, apparently, been there for hundreds of
years, and some communities trace their histories back for a thousand
years or more. The origins vary, but it appears that, for the most part,
the basis of the Jewish communities in Eastern Europe comes >from Jews who
settled the Rhineland region of Western Germany/Eastern France during the
period of the Roman Empire and, for various reasons, gradually spread
eastwards and northwards into Central and Eastern Europe.

Because of the generally disorganized and unstable nature of European
Society >from the fall of the Roman Empire until recent times, Jewish
community life has not always been too stable either, and one could find,
in parts of eastern Europe, other influences as well (remnants of the
Spanish exile, Jews >from Khazaria, Karaites, and others) who may have, in
one way or another, influenced local communities.
This would on, the one hand, explain the prevalence of Yiddish ( a dialect
of medieval or old German, or what is sometimes called Plat-Deutch - Flat
German), in many ways similar to some German dialects spoken today in
South-West Germany/Switzerland, with a further Hebrew and possibly Slavic
influence, among Eastern European Jews, while, on the other hand, it
might explain dialectical variations within the Yiddish of various regions.

[By the way, I have a very funny anecdote to tell about this. My late
mother, though born in South Africa, spoke a very fluent Litvak-Yiddish,
as well as English and South African-Dutch. Her younger sister, who spoke
Yiddish, but not so fluently, married a Jew >from Switzerland, and went to
live in Zurich in the 1960's. On one visit to her sister, my mother once
got into a conversation with a neighbour who speaks only German (the
local version). My mother, who knows no German, spoke in Litvak-Yiddish,
and managed to get by reasonably well. A few days later, my aunt told my
mother that the neighbour had commented very flatterngly about her, and
that she had been very impressed that "A visitor >from Africa could speak
such marvelous Schwitzerdeutsch. In fact, she speaks it much better than
you do, and you've been living here for years!"]

To cut a long story short, Eastern/Central European Jewry could be roughly
subdivided into three or four groups: i.e. those who where under German
influence, those who were under Russian influence, those who were
Austro-Hungarian influence and, maybe, those who retained some
independence, (at least for some of the time), >from all these influences.
One must remember that the whole area with large Jewish populations (at
least, so it was before the Nazi era), spreading roughly >from the Baltic
to the Black Sea, and >from the Ukraine/Russia border to Western Germany,
has been bouncing backwards and forwards, through a series of wars and
other major upheavals, between various empires for five hundred years or
more. Given the almost anarchic conditions prevailing for much of this
period in this part of Europe, it's amazing that Jews survived at all,
never mind flourish.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.