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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abbreviations on a Ketuba #general

alter ophir <alterdina@...>
 

A. Sterlin wrote:

I am in possession of a Ketuba >from a family member & am puzzled by the
letters Mem hey vav (with the abbreviation symbol above the hey) which are
written & precedes the groom's name. My Hebrew dictionaries are not very
good with abbreviations, & this abbreviation does not appear on the website
from Princeton Univ. (I don't have the exact web address handy). Can anyone
tell me what they might signify?
It could be " Morenu Harav", the groome might be a rabbi.
Alter Ophir
Ashdot Yaacov
Israel

Re: Abbreviations on a Ketuba #general

alter ophir <alterdina@...>
 

A. Sterlin wrote:

I am in possession of a Ketuba >from a family member & am puzzled by the
letters Mem hey vav (with the abbreviation symbol above the hey) which are
written & precedes the groom's name. My Hebrew dictionaries are not very
good with abbreviations, & this abbreviation does not appear on the website
from Princeton Univ. (I don't have the exact web address handy). Can anyone
tell me what they might signify?
It could be " Morenu Harav", the groome might be a rabbi.
Alter Ophir
Ashdot Yaacov
Israel

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Suffix -czyk #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what the Polish suffix "czyk" means?
In the Ukrain, it stands for "Son of" ...

-Yigal Rechtman

Re: Suffix -czyk #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what the Polish suffix "czyk" means?
In the Ukrain, it stands for "Son of" ...

-Yigal Rechtman

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abbreviations on a Ketuba #general

MMS <nospam.mms@...>
 

May it be mem-hey-resh = morenu hrav = our teacher, the Rabbi

Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
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Re: Abbreviations on a Ketuba #general

MMS <nospam.mms@...>
 

May it be mem-hey-resh = morenu hrav = our teacher, the Rabbi

Moshe Shavit - Israel
mms@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:"Ustralinka" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

In part of her message of Dec. 30, 1998, Sue Leventhal inquired about a
shtetl she hesitantly spelled as "Ustralinka."
I think this must be "Ostraleka," also spelled as "Ostrolenka."
For its location she should use the shtetlseeker. (I've temporarily mislaid my
Polish map among the bookstacks on the floor.)

There is a Yizkor book for Ostraleka in which she may be able to find
mention of her Leventhals, provided she can get hold of the book through
purchase or interlibrary loan, and have someone look through it to translate
the Hebrew and Yiddish in which is it written (in case she can't read those
languages).

Sefer kehilat Ostrolenka (Book of kehilat Ostrolenka). Ed. Y.Ivri. Tel
Aviv: Association of Former Residents of Ostrolenka, 1963, 578 pp., and
portraits.

UCLA has a copy. Its call no. is DS 135 P62 075. There may be copies
elsewhere but Yale does not list it. YIVO surely would have a copy but it
hasn't reopened yet. If Ms. Leventhal can get to YIVO when it does reopen,
she can order the book >from its warehouse, unless in its new headquarters all
the Yizkor books will be available in situ, and have someone leaf through the
book and look up the Leventhal name. (The volunteer who does translations
has usually come in only on Thursdays, but perhaps one will be available more
often when YIVO reopens.)

Naomi
NFatouros@...
98/12/31

Re: "Ustralinka" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

In part of her message of Dec. 30, 1998, Sue Leventhal inquired about a
shtetl she hesitantly spelled as "Ustralinka."
I think this must be "Ostraleka," also spelled as "Ostrolenka."
For its location she should use the shtetlseeker. (I've temporarily mislaid my
Polish map among the bookstacks on the floor.)

There is a Yizkor book for Ostraleka in which she may be able to find
mention of her Leventhals, provided she can get hold of the book through
purchase or interlibrary loan, and have someone look through it to translate
the Hebrew and Yiddish in which is it written (in case she can't read those
languages).

Sefer kehilat Ostrolenka (Book of kehilat Ostrolenka). Ed. Y.Ivri. Tel
Aviv: Association of Former Residents of Ostrolenka, 1963, 578 pp., and
portraits.

UCLA has a copy. Its call no. is DS 135 P62 075. There may be copies
elsewhere but Yale does not list it. YIVO surely would have a copy but it
hasn't reopened yet. If Ms. Leventhal can get to YIVO when it does reopen,
she can order the book >from its warehouse, unless in its new headquarters all
the Yizkor books will be available in situ, and have someone leaf through the
book and look up the Leventhal name. (The volunteer who does translations
has usually come in only on Thursdays, but perhaps one will be available more
often when YIVO reopens.)

Naomi
NFatouros@...
98/12/31

Latvia SIG #Latvia Database of Latvian Jewish names/TSAL #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Here in Israel, we have been trying to collect as much information as we
can about modern Latvian Jewish and have begun a database of names given
to us by the Latvian Jews who arrived in Israel lately or who escaped the
Shoah. There are many books, telephone directories, professional
directories, Jews in the military directories, medical personnel
directories, and so forth, available for use. I am at a loss as to how
to make these resources available to us since they are privately owned,
written in Cyrillic or Lettish, and require knowledge of someone knowing
these alphabeths, at the very least. I do not, under any circumstance,
want constantly to disturb the owners of these materials, since in
general they are of an advanced age and are already being kind enough to
offer the resources. Does anyone have any constructive suggestions as to
how to go about this?

One of the sources of a rich Latvian library wished to know if any of us
has any family by the name of TSAL [Tsaddeh -lamed]. The gentleman's
cousin, Yerachmiel ben Baruch TSAL b. 1928, was murdered in the Shoah in
Rasneken near Daugaspils. But he was known to have family in America.

Warm regards to all! Martha

Researching >from Latvia:
LEVINSON
LIEBERTHAL
HIM[M]ELHOCH
LEVIUS
THAL
WEINBERG

Database of Latvian Jewish names/TSAL #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Here in Israel, we have been trying to collect as much information as we
can about modern Latvian Jewish and have begun a database of names given
to us by the Latvian Jews who arrived in Israel lately or who escaped the
Shoah. There are many books, telephone directories, professional
directories, Jews in the military directories, medical personnel
directories, and so forth, available for use. I am at a loss as to how
to make these resources available to us since they are privately owned,
written in Cyrillic or Lettish, and require knowledge of someone knowing
these alphabeths, at the very least. I do not, under any circumstance,
want constantly to disturb the owners of these materials, since in
general they are of an advanced age and are already being kind enough to
offer the resources. Does anyone have any constructive suggestions as to
how to go about this?

One of the sources of a rich Latvian library wished to know if any of us
has any family by the name of TSAL [Tsaddeh -lamed]. The gentleman's
cousin, Yerachmiel ben Baruch TSAL b. 1928, was murdered in the Shoah in
Rasneken near Daugaspils. But he was known to have family in America.

Warm regards to all! Martha

Researching >from Latvia:
LEVINSON
LIEBERTHAL
HIM[M]ELHOCH
LEVIUS
THAL
WEINBERG

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen obtaining birth certificate from Kiev? #general

Colin Easdon <Easdon.Ellis@...>
 

Can anyone help me with how to obtain a birth cert >from kiev? Who would I
write to in Kiev?

Thank you for any help.

Colin Easdon
London
easdon.ellis@...

searching GOLDENBERG=Kiev/Egypt
searching BLAIR=France

obtaining birth certificate from Kiev? #general

Colin Easdon <Easdon.Ellis@...>
 

Can anyone help me with how to obtain a birth cert >from kiev? Who would I
write to in Kiev?

Thank you for any help.

Colin Easdon
London
easdon.ellis@...

searching GOLDENBERG=Kiev/Egypt
searching BLAIR=France

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How do I find these people?!? #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 


I am trying to find children of my grandparents' cousins, but I'm not
sure how to proceed
May I suggest your read my FAQ about the SSA at www.rechtman.com or
http://members.aol.com/rechtman -- there are some ideas for exactly the state
your inquery is at.

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman

Re: How do I find these people?!? #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 


I am trying to find children of my grandparents' cousins, but I'm not
sure how to proceed
May I suggest your read my FAQ about the SSA at www.rechtman.com or
http://members.aol.com/rechtman -- there are some ideas for exactly the state
your inquery is at.

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kindertransport Association #general

Peter Sinclair <peter@...>
 

Apropos the comments made by Judith Romney Wegner below and actions
taken by the British Government at that time, it must be said that the
latter was cajoled into doing something by a relatively small group of
determined, dedicated and prominent Anglo-Jewish men and women who
left no stone unturned to secure aid and assistance of every sort, at
a time when Britain stood alone in the world against the Nazi terror .
A fully documented and excellent book on this subject under the title
"Men of Vision" (Anglo-Jewry's aid to victims of the Nazi Regime
1933-1945), author Amy Zahl Gottlieb, published by Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, The Orion Publishing Group Ltd., ISBN 0 297 84230 7 has to
be compulsory reading.

H. Peter Sinclair

On 31 Dec 1998 09:46:27 -0800, in soc.genealogy.jewish Judith Romney
Wegner wrote:

Subject: Re: KinderTransport
A note to the person asking about The KinderTransports.
There is a documentary that will be playing in NYC in
January about the KinderTransports (1938-1939) called
"My Knees Were Jumping" Take a look at its Website at
http://home.earthlink.net/~kinderfilm
...EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL SNIPPED........

Re: Kindertransport Association #general

Peter Sinclair <peter@...>
 

Apropos the comments made by Judith Romney Wegner below and actions
taken by the British Government at that time, it must be said that the
latter was cajoled into doing something by a relatively small group of
determined, dedicated and prominent Anglo-Jewish men and women who
left no stone unturned to secure aid and assistance of every sort, at
a time when Britain stood alone in the world against the Nazi terror .
A fully documented and excellent book on this subject under the title
"Men of Vision" (Anglo-Jewry's aid to victims of the Nazi Regime
1933-1945), author Amy Zahl Gottlieb, published by Weidenfeld and
Nicolson, The Orion Publishing Group Ltd., ISBN 0 297 84230 7 has to
be compulsory reading.

H. Peter Sinclair

On 31 Dec 1998 09:46:27 -0800, in soc.genealogy.jewish Judith Romney
Wegner wrote:

Subject: Re: KinderTransport
A note to the person asking about The KinderTransports.
There is a documentary that will be playing in NYC in
January about the KinderTransports (1938-1939) called
"My Knees Were Jumping" Take a look at its Website at
http://home.earthlink.net/~kinderfilm
...EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL SNIPPED........

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Suwalki, Poland #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Could anyone tell me the correct phonetic pronounciation of
Suwalki, Poland. I have also seen the town's name spelled Suwaki.
For more information, contact Landsmen, Box 228, 3701 Conneticute Avenue,
Washington DC 20008.

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman

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Re: Suwalki, Poland #general

Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Could anyone tell me the correct phonetic pronounciation of
Suwalki, Poland. I have also seen the town's name spelled Suwaki.
For more information, contact Landsmen, Box 228, 3701 Conneticute Avenue,
Washington DC 20008.

Good luck!
-Yigal Rechtman

MODERATOR NOTE: To answer the question asked... Soo valki' <grin>

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TRISTER and ALKALAI? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

From: "Laurence Trister" <ltrister@...>
I have just been told that my family name of Trister stems in some way from
the names Alkallay/Alkalai.
The early geographical links would be Botasani in Romania and Trieste in
Italy
This cryptic comment "I have just been told ...." intrigued me: I'd
love to know EXACTLY how your informant connected a Yiddish/Ashkenazic
surname like TRISTER to an Arabic/Sephardic name like ALKALAI. Can you
tell us more about this?

The surname "TRISTER" appears to mean simply "Triester" ("person from
Trieste" -- where Jews lived >from the middle ages on). And the Enc. Jud.
article on Trieste says those Jews came >from Germany -- which certainly
does not suggest Sephardic origin. So, I'm left wondeirng how you got
from here to there!
Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@...

TRISTER and ALKALAI? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

From: "Laurence Trister" <ltrister@...>
I have just been told that my family name of Trister stems in some way from
the names Alkallay/Alkalai.
The early geographical links would be Botasani in Romania and Trieste in
Italy
This cryptic comment "I have just been told ...." intrigued me: I'd
love to know EXACTLY how your informant connected a Yiddish/Ashkenazic
surname like TRISTER to an Arabic/Sephardic name like ALKALAI. Can you
tell us more about this?

The surname "TRISTER" appears to mean simply "Triester" ("person from
Trieste" -- where Jews lived >from the middle ages on). And the Enc. Jud.
article on Trieste says those Jews came >from Germany -- which certainly
does not suggest Sephardic origin. So, I'm left wondeirng how you got
from here to there!
Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@...