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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Crimea #general

David Aron <davidaron@...>
 

Alan Suchat asks about locations in Crimea (or Kyrm as it appears
now to be called). There appear to be no maps avaiblin in Kyrm but
I did manage to obtain one in Kiev. It is published by the Institute
Geographie National in France and was dated 1 March 1997 and was
produced in association with UKrAGP of Kiev.

The map shows a small village called Zhaivoronky which is about 30km
north-west of Simferopol which seems similar to the Ziwenronkin that
you mention.

David Aron
London UK

Crimea #general

David Aron <davidaron@...>
 

Alan Suchat asks about locations in Crimea (or Kyrm as it appears
now to be called). There appear to be no maps avaiblin in Kyrm but
I did manage to obtain one in Kiev. It is published by the Institute
Geographie National in France and was dated 1 March 1997 and was
produced in association with UKrAGP of Kiev.

The map shows a small village called Zhaivoronky which is about 30km
north-west of Simferopol which seems similar to the Ziwenronkin that
you mention.

David Aron
London UK

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Canadian Info File #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

At 06:54:51 -0800 1/1/99, I wrote:
Subject: re Jews in Montreal, CA 1900
From: Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
(a lot snipped)
What is needed is for some ambitious Jewish Genner in Canada to
write an info file on Jewish Genealogy in Canada. If some one
volunteers I'd be glad to contribute my information.
And the moderator responded

MODERATOR NOTE: Why leave it to someone else to volunteer? <VBG>
and so:

This represents a start of an info-file for for persons residing
outside of Canada who want to research ancestors who lived in Canada.
At this writing the info-file is limited to those sites that I found
useful when I consulted them. There were other sites that I looked at
at one time but did not find anthing useful with respect to my ancestors
(who lived in Montreal and Winnipeg). If you send me additional
resources within the next month I'll add them and reformat to a proper InfoFile




Montreal InfoFile at JewishGen Vital records in Montreal

Harry Gutkin's book "Journey into our Heritage" - The Story of
the Jewish People in Western Canada

Canadian Jewish Congress http://www.cjc.ca

Canadian Jewish Congress library http://www.cjc.ca/archives.htm
archivist was very helpful - contact phyllisk@... or
jrosen@...

inGeneas: Canadian databases http://www.inGeneas.com/pay/index.html

J-GEMS - Jewish Genealogical Exploration Guide for Manitoba and Saskatchewan
http://www.concentric.net/~Lkessler/jgems.shtml
list of burials and entrys in the local Jewish press

Quebec Genealogical Society http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html
aka Quebec Family History Society

JGS-Montreal home page http://www.gtrdata.com/jgs-montreal
has a good bibliograpy of Canadian Jews, Jewsih communities etc

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://www.cwgc.org/


Canadian White Pages http://canada411.sympatico.ca/
Most provinces but not Alberta

Canadian Archives Web site http://www.archives.ca/


CANADIAN ARCHIVES

from JewishGen FAQ
CANADA: The National Archives of Canada (395 Wellington St.,
Ottawa K1A 0N3 Canada) has microfilm copies of passenger
manifests for ships arriving at six Canadian ports, including
Quebec (>from 1865) and Halifax (>from 1880) up to 1919. These
lists are arranged chronologically; there is NO name index.
For details see the National Archives of Canada WWW site:
<http://www.archives.ca/www/ImmigrationRecords.html>. Records
after 1920 are subject to restrictions of the Privacy Act.
Inquiries on these later records may be addressed to: Query
Response Centre, Citizenship and Immigration, 300 Slater
Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1L1 Canada. (613)
957-7667
Canadian Access to Information Law

from a post of mine
There is a cheaper method ($5.00) if you are a Canadian Citizen
or have a Canadian Address and can establish that the person in
question has been deceased for 20 years and that is to use the
"Access to Information" Act (the Canadian equivalent of the
Freedom of Information Law).
Access to Information forms are available >from many Public
Libraries and government offices in Canada. Separate forms are
required for each Federal Government Institution which might hold
such forms. In our case my brother (a Canadian) asked the
Citizenship and Immigration Department for immigration and
cititzenship papers for X and we provided our best guess as to
year of arrival and prior residences.

You must either prove that you are X or that X has been dead
for at least 20 years (proof can be in the form of a death
certificate, newspaper obituary, or a photo of a tombstone).
A check for $5 Cdn made out to the Receiver General of Canada
is required for each form. The requester must state that he
is "a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident or another
individual present in Canada or a corporation present in Canada"

The form and the check should be sent to:

Access to Information Officer
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
3rd Floor, Journal Towers,North
300 Slater Street
Ottawa,Ontario
K1A 1L1 (Note: those are ones not eyes)
CANADA

Figure on about 3 weeks for an initial response and an additional
6 weeks for real information (a copy of our grandmother's
application for citizenship and a copy of her late husband's
naturalization papers which she used to establish her eligibility).

Quoting >from the respose
"Prior to 1919 naturalization was handled locally by provincial
courts and very few details were forwarded to our Department. No
applications or documentst pertaining to anyone who was naturalized
locally prior to 1919 is available. Immigration records prior to
January 1, 1919 are under the jurisdiction of National Archives of
Canada, 395 Wellington Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N3, Attn:
Mrs Ellen Scheinberg (telephone 613-996-7733)".

Archives Canada has a web site dealing with Immigration records

http://www.archives.ca/www/ImmigrationRecords.html


Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@...

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel

MODERATOR NOTE: Having been the moderator on duty writing the
note above, can you imagine the size of my VBG now? Thanks
Avrum for so graciously accepting the "suggestion".

Canadian Info File #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

At 06:54:51 -0800 1/1/99, I wrote:
Subject: re Jews in Montreal, CA 1900
From: Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
(a lot snipped)
What is needed is for some ambitious Jewish Genner in Canada to
write an info file on Jewish Genealogy in Canada. If some one
volunteers I'd be glad to contribute my information.
And the moderator responded

MODERATOR NOTE: Why leave it to someone else to volunteer? <VBG>
and so:

This represents a start of an info-file for for persons residing
outside of Canada who want to research ancestors who lived in Canada.
At this writing the info-file is limited to those sites that I found
useful when I consulted them. There were other sites that I looked at
at one time but did not find anthing useful with respect to my ancestors
(who lived in Montreal and Winnipeg). If you send me additional
resources within the next month I'll add them and reformat to a proper InfoFile




Montreal InfoFile at JewishGen Vital records in Montreal

Harry Gutkin's book "Journey into our Heritage" - The Story of
the Jewish People in Western Canada

Canadian Jewish Congress http://www.cjc.ca

Canadian Jewish Congress library http://www.cjc.ca/archives.htm
archivist was very helpful - contact phyllisk@... or
jrosen@...

inGeneas: Canadian databases http://www.inGeneas.com/pay/index.html

J-GEMS - Jewish Genealogical Exploration Guide for Manitoba and Saskatchewan
http://www.concentric.net/~Lkessler/jgems.shtml
list of burials and entrys in the local Jewish press

Quebec Genealogical Society http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html
aka Quebec Family History Society

JGS-Montreal home page http://www.gtrdata.com/jgs-montreal
has a good bibliograpy of Canadian Jews, Jewsih communities etc

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://www.cwgc.org/


Canadian White Pages http://canada411.sympatico.ca/
Most provinces but not Alberta

Canadian Archives Web site http://www.archives.ca/


CANADIAN ARCHIVES

from JewishGen FAQ
CANADA: The National Archives of Canada (395 Wellington St.,
Ottawa K1A 0N3 Canada) has microfilm copies of passenger
manifests for ships arriving at six Canadian ports, including
Quebec (>from 1865) and Halifax (>from 1880) up to 1919. These
lists are arranged chronologically; there is NO name index.
For details see the National Archives of Canada WWW site:
<http://www.archives.ca/www/ImmigrationRecords.html>. Records
after 1920 are subject to restrictions of the Privacy Act.
Inquiries on these later records may be addressed to: Query
Response Centre, Citizenship and Immigration, 300 Slater
Street, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1L1 Canada. (613)
957-7667
Canadian Access to Information Law

from a post of mine
There is a cheaper method ($5.00) if you are a Canadian Citizen
or have a Canadian Address and can establish that the person in
question has been deceased for 20 years and that is to use the
"Access to Information" Act (the Canadian equivalent of the
Freedom of Information Law).
Access to Information forms are available >from many Public
Libraries and government offices in Canada. Separate forms are
required for each Federal Government Institution which might hold
such forms. In our case my brother (a Canadian) asked the
Citizenship and Immigration Department for immigration and
cititzenship papers for X and we provided our best guess as to
year of arrival and prior residences.

You must either prove that you are X or that X has been dead
for at least 20 years (proof can be in the form of a death
certificate, newspaper obituary, or a photo of a tombstone).
A check for $5 Cdn made out to the Receiver General of Canada
is required for each form. The requester must state that he
is "a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident or another
individual present in Canada or a corporation present in Canada"

The form and the check should be sent to:

Access to Information Officer
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
3rd Floor, Journal Towers,North
300 Slater Street
Ottawa,Ontario
K1A 1L1 (Note: those are ones not eyes)
CANADA

Figure on about 3 weeks for an initial response and an additional
6 weeks for real information (a copy of our grandmother's
application for citizenship and a copy of her late husband's
naturalization papers which she used to establish her eligibility).

Quoting >from the respose
"Prior to 1919 naturalization was handled locally by provincial
courts and very few details were forwarded to our Department. No
applications or documentst pertaining to anyone who was naturalized
locally prior to 1919 is available. Immigration records prior to
January 1, 1919 are under the jurisdiction of National Archives of
Canada, 395 Wellington Street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0N3, Attn:
Mrs Ellen Scheinberg (telephone 613-996-7733)".

Archives Canada has a web site dealing with Immigration records

http://www.archives.ca/www/ImmigrationRecords.html


Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@...

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel

MODERATOR NOTE: Having been the moderator on duty writing the
note above, can you imagine the size of my VBG now? Thanks
Avrum for so graciously accepting the "suggestion".

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "French Children of the Holocaust" by Serge Klarsfeld #general

Arthur S. Meyers <marciarthur@...>
 

I just came across a book in my local public library which
might prove valuable in Holocaust research. "French Children
of the Holocaust" by Serge Klarsfeld is a huge volume
containing not only the names of French children but of
children of those who moved to France >from other countries
to escape the Holocaust. For those researchers whose family might
have moved to France >from Poland - this is a book worth checking.
It was published in 1996 and might be available through interlibrary
loan.

Marcia Indianer Meyers
marciarthur@...

"French Children of the Holocaust" by Serge Klarsfeld #general

Arthur S. Meyers <marciarthur@...>
 

I just came across a book in my local public library which
might prove valuable in Holocaust research. "French Children
of the Holocaust" by Serge Klarsfeld is a huge volume
containing not only the names of French children but of
children of those who moved to France >from other countries
to escape the Holocaust. For those researchers whose family might
have moved to France >from Poland - this is a book worth checking.
It was published in 1996 and might be available through interlibrary
loan.

Marcia Indianer Meyers
marciarthur@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israeli lookup request #general

KKirshner@...
 

My grandmother (b. ca. 1887) had a cousin who migrated >from
Vilnius and is living in Hertzoleah (spelling?), Israel by
the name of Velvel GUREVICH. He must be in his 80s by now.
Can someone look up the name in an Israeli phonebook for a
mailing address and a phone number? If someone in Israel who
speaks Russian or Yiddish could speak to him for me, with
questions about his connection to the SINGER, LEVIN/LEVINE/LURIA,
CHIDEKEL and BERMAN lines via Liba ("Lily") CHIDEKEL BERMAN of
Shkuntsiki near Sharkovshschina, Disna, Vilna Giberna, I would
greatly appreciate it.

Karen Kirshner
KKirshner@...

Israeli lookup request #general

KKirshner@...
 

My grandmother (b. ca. 1887) had a cousin who migrated >from
Vilnius and is living in Hertzoleah (spelling?), Israel by
the name of Velvel GUREVICH. He must be in his 80s by now.
Can someone look up the name in an Israeli phonebook for a
mailing address and a phone number? If someone in Israel who
speaks Russian or Yiddish could speak to him for me, with
questions about his connection to the SINGER, LEVIN/LEVINE/LURIA,
CHIDEKEL and BERMAN lines via Liba ("Lily") CHIDEKEL BERMAN of
Shkuntsiki near Sharkovshschina, Disna, Vilna Giberna, I would
greatly appreciate it.

Karen Kirshner
KKirshner@...

Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Prenumeraten Lists #belarus

susan L Chernin <sueche1@...>
 

Does the Name Chernin or Czernin or Chanin appear. They were all from
Vitebsk as far as I know

Reply to sueche1@...

Researching chernin,Czernin,Chanin,Savadove or Savadofsky
Thank you

Susan L Chernin

Israel Pickholtz wrote:
I spent several hours on prenumeraten lists last
Thursday -
I did however copy two lists which include people
from Borisov and elsewhere in Belarus.
One is Galia Masechet, published in 1844, the other
is Ilma Rabbati and I neglected to note date of publication.
If someone wants me to look something up on these two
lists, please don't hesitate.
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Requests for lookups should be sent as private e-mail to
Israel Pickholtz rather then posting them to the group.

Re: Prenumeraten Lists #belarus

susan L Chernin <sueche1@...>
 

Does the Name Chernin or Czernin or Chanin appear. They were all from
Vitebsk as far as I know

Reply to sueche1@...

Researching chernin,Czernin,Chanin,Savadove or Savadofsky
Thank you

Susan L Chernin

Israel Pickholtz wrote:
I spent several hours on prenumeraten lists last
Thursday -
I did however copy two lists which include people
from Borisov and elsewhere in Belarus.
One is Galia Masechet, published in 1844, the other
is Ilma Rabbati and I neglected to note date of publication.
If someone wants me to look something up on these two
lists, please don't hesitate.
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Requests for lookups should be sent as private e-mail to
Israel Pickholtz rather then posting them to the group.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen printing ornamental family tree #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

I want to make a genealogy chart for an uncle who will soon be 90 years
old.

Although I can make various kinds of charts with my software (Ancestral
Quest), I want to make something special (decorative), suitable for
framing.
Are there companies who do this? Please tell me if you have personal
experience doing this.

Thanks,
Saul
sgoldsto@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Respond privately please

printing ornamental family tree #general

Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
 

JewishGeners,

I want to make a genealogy chart for an uncle who will soon be 90 years
old.

Although I can make various kinds of charts with my software (Ancestral
Quest), I want to make something special (decorative), suitable for
framing.
Are there companies who do this? Please tell me if you have personal
experience doing this.

Thanks,
Saul
sgoldsto@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Respond privately please

Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Conscripts/Soldiers - Russian/Soviet Armies #belarus

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

<< Subject: Conscripts/Soldiers - Russian/Soviet Armies
>From: "K.& L. Bertelsen" <klb@...>
>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:40:06

The *Minsk Belarus Museum of the Great Patriotic War* may well have the
information you are looking for.
Director: Raissa Andrejewna, Tschemoglasowa R, Minsk Prospekt Skorny 25a,
Belarus, tel: +375 227 7635 bus; +375 266 4925 home.

Charlotte Guthmann Opfermann
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/charlotte.html
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/prayers.html

Re: Conscripts/Soldiers - Russian/Soviet Armies #belarus

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

<< Subject: Conscripts/Soldiers - Russian/Soviet Armies
>From: "K.& L. Bertelsen" <klb@...>
>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:40:06

The *Minsk Belarus Museum of the Great Patriotic War* may well have the
information you are looking for.
Director: Raissa Andrejewna, Tschemoglasowa R, Minsk Prospekt Skorny 25a,
Belarus, tel: +375 227 7635 bus; +375 266 4925 home.

Charlotte Guthmann Opfermann
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/charlotte.html
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/prayers.html

Belarus SIG #Belarus Novogrodek, Belarus - USHMM Tape Available #belarus

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

Dear Moderator,
I just received word that the USHMM in Washington will offer a program
"Destruction of the Jewish Community of Novogrodek, Belarus"
on 1-21-1999 at 12:30, a subject of the Miles Lerman Center for the Study of
Jewish Resistance,
in the Conference Rm, Fifth floor.

For those of us who cannot attend in person in Washington, the Center will
make audio tape versions of such lectures available, free of charge.
I have been able to obtain such copies in the past, sent them blank tapes for
the purpose.
I seem to recall that the person in charge of these programs is Jaime Mollnor,
and I intend to write for such a copy myself. Will share with Belarus List
subscribers upon request.

Charlotte Opfermann
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/charlotte.html
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/prayers.html

Novogrodek, Belarus - USHMM Tape Available #belarus

CHARLOTTEO@...
 

Dear Moderator,
I just received word that the USHMM in Washington will offer a program
"Destruction of the Jewish Community of Novogrodek, Belarus"
on 1-21-1999 at 12:30, a subject of the Miles Lerman Center for the Study of
Jewish Resistance,
in the Conference Rm, Fifth floor.

For those of us who cannot attend in person in Washington, the Center will
make audio tape versions of such lectures available, free of charge.
I have been able to obtain such copies in the past, sent them blank tapes for
the purpose.
I seem to recall that the person in charge of these programs is Jaime Mollnor,
and I intend to write for such a copy myself. Will share with Belarus List
subscribers upon request.

Charlotte Opfermann
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/charlotte.html
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/prayers.html

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Can someone translate a sign from Pinsk? #general

liss@...
 

I recently was sent an image of a sign >from Pinsk.

Can someone translate? It is online at:

http://www.liss.olm.net/genealogy/wolinetz.gif

I'm not sure what book this came from.

Thank you very much.

Stuart Liss
Denver, Colorado

sliss@...

Can someone translate a sign from Pinsk? #general

liss@...
 

I recently was sent an image of a sign >from Pinsk.

Can someone translate? It is online at:

http://www.liss.olm.net/genealogy/wolinetz.gif

I'm not sure what book this came from.

Thank you very much.

Stuart Liss
Denver, Colorado

sliss@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Guildhall Libary city of london. #general

Corinne Silver <corinnesilver@...>
 

As my great grandfather had been an Alderman of the city of London I
telephoned the guild hall today on an off chance. The staff were very
helpfull and volunteered to send me all the information they had.
its always worth a try!
Corinne Silver

==

The Guildhall Libary city of london. #general

Corinne Silver <corinnesilver@...>
 

As my great grandfather had been an Alderman of the city of London I
telephoned the guild hall today on an off chance. The staff were very
helpfull and volunteered to send me all the information they had.
its always worth a try!
Corinne Silver

==