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Re: Looking for Phone books of Poland, Lithuania, Lativa and Belarus from 1918 #russia #poland #belarus #lithuania #latvia

Jenny Schwartzberg
 

Dear Patrice,
 
A lot of these phone books are searchable at: https://genealogyindexer.org/
 
A list of the directories included are at: https://genealogyindexer.org/directories
 
Yours,
Jenny Schwartzberg
Chicago, IL, USA

 




Re: Looking for the dessendants of Alex ROGATSKY from NYC (and of his son Albert ROGART) #russia #usa

hoenig453@...
 

Dear Michael Moe,
                For quite a number of years starting in 1958 I worked as a teacher at Parsons JHS 168 in Queens (New York City-USA), and one of my colleagues was someone named Albert Rogart. he taught science, and sometime in the 1960s or 1970s he left the school to become an Assistant Principal and then a Principal of another junior high school  He and his family lived somewhere on Long Island.
Leo Hoenig, New York
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Yochevet Belinkoff Chernyakov #belarus

adar@...
 

I am searching for descendants of Yochevet Belinkoff Chernyakov, born 1973 in Gomel, Russia and died 1945 in Philadelphia, PA, USA.  She had one daughter who survived WWII in Russia, and whose descendants I am seeking.  I do not know her married name..

Adar Belinkoff

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Re: Jewish Prostitution (was Re: Jewish Argentinians) #latinamerica

tom
 

i would love to know the sources for these numbers.  hungary was a country of over 10 million people, so it's hard to imagine that there were only 108 traffickers altogether, and with a jewish population of less than 10%,  that 68 of them were jews. 
 
 
....... tom klein, toronto
 

At 3:06 -0700 26/5/20, main@... wrote:
 
From: Ittai Hershman
There is a fine line between genealogy and history, but I thought this recent scholarship might provide some helpful contextualization to the discussion on JewishGen.  In her 2019 book "Sarah Schenirer and the Bais Yaakov Movement", Professor Naomi Seidman includes the following footnotes on p. 26:

Re: Sharing family tree information #general

Sarah L Meyer
 

I give them a link to my online tree on my website.  It does not allow download of gedcoms, shows only names and no data for living people.  And some living people are privatized, upon request.  There are some photos there (none - of living people).  I strongly recommend to ALL companies that mother's maiden name is a TERRIBLE security question - and require a second one - often the name of a first pet.  When given choices for security questions - I avoid all questions about relatives - such as your father's middle name, if at all possible.  Cars, proms, streets lived on, pets, schools attended etc - all much better questions.
--
Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com

Re: Searching for Yacoby-Jacoby-Jacobi from Grodno, Grodno, Belarus 1800-1900 #belarus

jonathanliebman@...
 

My grandmother Fannie was born in Grodno around 1892 and lived in NY City around 1910-1913
My great grandmother Ida was born around 1860 and I assume born also in Grodno and assume lived in NY City also.
My great grandfather Abram (Abraham) I have no idea on birth date or shetl. I don't know if he ever migrated to the USA.

Jonathan Liebman


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1902 NYC Orphanage #general #usa

Diane Jacobs
 

Marcella,

 

If I recall correctly, there is a NYC Jewish Orphanage records on the Center for Jewish History website.

 

There I was able to find the names of 2 of my mom's cousins who were there in 1897 after there father

died.   The Center for Jewish History did send me their admission records page.

 

I am not sure how they do this today as this was about 18 years when I did this.

 

But hope it helps.  I knew they were in an orphanage but didn't know where so just took a chance to

look it up when I found their website.

 

Diane Jacobs

Somerset, NJ

 



Subject: [JewishGen.org] Child, FEIGE/GUSSIE lost in Transit approx 1902...arriving into New York alone

 

Feige aka Gussie [MATUS/MARCUS] was lost in transit  and arrived in New York in abt 1902, alone.  The story has her being 4 years old at the time but she may have been as old as 8…b 1894-1897 Panevesz Lithuania

She may not have been able to convey her last name properly when she arrived.  She was transported to an orphanage. ….? 

Somehow she eventually found family, last name Marcus and by 1925 was married to NATHANSON….she was always known as Gussie in her later life

Any suggestions on how to find Gussie’s earlier days in the orphanage or passage to New York - are most welcome

Thanks   Stay safe and well    Marcella Shames   <marcellash@...>

 


--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ViewMate translation request - 4 Yiddish postcards #translation #yiddish

Wladi Fridman
 

Dear all,

I've posted four postcards from our family archive in Yiddish for which I need a translation (and if possible a transcription in Hebrew block letters). It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82113
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82114
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82115
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82116

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you so much for your help.

Wladimir Fridman

Child, FEIGE/GUSSIE lost in Transit approx 1902...arriving into New York alone

Marcella Shames
 

Feige aka Gussie [MATUS/MARCUS] was lost in transit  and arrived in New York in abt 1902, alone.  The story has her being 4 years old at the time but she may have been as old as 8…b 1894-1897 Panevesz Lithuania

She may not have been able to convey her last name properly when she arrived.  She was transported to an orphanage. ….? 

Somehow she eventually found family, last name Marcus and by 1925 was married to NATHANSON….she was always known as Gussie in her later life

Any suggestions on how to find Gussie’s earlier days in the orphanage or passage to New York - are most welcome

Thanks   Stay safe and well    Marcella Shames   <marcellash@...>

Re: Discussion Group - Tips About Hashtags #guidelines

jbonline1111@...
 

This is very helpful.  I have noticed quite a few people using the #general hashtag, so many as to make it meaningless.
Can we not restrict the use of this hashtag to procedural questions rather than specific issues regarding our research?
--
Barbara Sloan, Conway, SC   <jbonline1111@...>

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ViewMate translation request - Yiddish #yiddish #lithuania #translation

Michael Herzlich
 

I've posted two short handwritten notes for which I need translations.  They both appear to be in Yiddish.
I do appreciate getting more than one translation as there can be small differences that can be significant to me.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82117
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82118

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
The notes are on the back of photo cards are from the album of a person related to the following families from the area near Merkine Lithuania:
SAPOKAITE, SAPOCKY, MERIKANSKY, MERIKANSKAS, BLOKH

Thank you,  
--   Michael Herzlich Delray Beach, Florida USA

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Birth records Mulheim, Cologne, Germany 1895 - Ida GROENER #germany

Mary Henderson
 

Hi, all!

Is anyone aware of a resource that I can use to find a birth record
for Ida GROENER who was reportedly born Apr 13 1895 in Mulheim,
Cologne (Koln), Germany to Heinrich GROENER and Helene ROSENBAUM, or
for her sister, Alwina, born Dec 29, 1897 in the same place? Alwina's
death record lists Helene Rosenbaum as her mother, but I am trying to
substantiate that and find more information on Helene - right now all
I have is her name.

Thank you very much!!!

Mary Henderson  <gengenres@...>

Search for descendants of Mrs. A. SCHUSSLER, Humboldt Street, Brooklyn NY circa 1923 #usa

Shlomo Katz
 

I am searching for descendants of Mrs. A. SCHUSSLER, who was living on Humboldt Street, Brooklyn NY in 1923.
 
She is believed to be the sister of my wife's great-grandfather, whose last name was KALKSTEIN.
 
Shlomo Katz,  Silver Spring, Maryland, USA  <shlomodkatz@...>

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Re: When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? #galicia

Lewis, Megan
 

In the 1920's and 1930's Jews were able to get passports.  USHMM has records from the Stanislawow region. I cannot speak about earlier periods because that is out of scope for our collections.

Megan Lewis, reference librarian
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Looking for Phone books of Poland, Lithuania, Lativa and Belarus from 1918 #russia #poland #belarus #lithuania #latvia

patrice.markiewicz@...
 

Looking forward for consulting phone books of Russia until 1918, Districts of Vilno, Postov, Kaunas ans Riga; of Poland from 1919 until 1939, gubernia of Vilno, District of Postawy; of Belarus from 1945 until today. Contact please patrice.markiewicz@....

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Moravian census (was Re: Familianten book from Trest, Moravia) #austria-czech #announcements

Lewis, Megan
 

The Moravian censuses from 1857-1910 are now online in beta form at https://www.mza.cz/scitacioperaty/.  (The image viewer in particular is clunky to use.)
The website is completely in Czech but easily translated using GoogleTranslate or DeepL.  
The census books are in German or bilingual German/Czech and include columns such as birthdate, marital status, birthplace, etc. Apparently in later years information such as disabilities was also recorded.
FamilySearch digitized some of the census books a few years ago (but I don't know if they are indexing them) and the archives digitized the rest in the last 2 years. The 1921 census was also digitized but is not online yet because of privacy regulations.

This information was posted today on the discussion list of GenTeam.eu. The list covers the entire Austrian-Hungarian empire so if you are interested in the region it might be worth it to you to subscribe.  The posts are usually in German, but most of the regular posters speak good English. The GenTeam.eu website has a lot of information about Jewish communities so is also worth a visit.  I have no affiliation with GenTeam- I just find the website and discussion list very useful.

Megan Lewis, reference librarian,  United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Update on Wohyn (Lublin, Poland) Project #poland #announcements

Smadar Gilboa
 

Dear fellow Lublin area researchers,
 
I am working on a vital records project for a town called Wohyn in the Lublin region of Poland.
If you are interested in an update for this project, please contact me directly.
 
Smadar Gilboa,  Los Angeles, California   Wohyn Townleader, JRI-Poland.org   gilsmadar@...  

Aide généalogie juive polonaise / Does a name suffice to prove Jewish ancestry?) #france #poland #names

gkoniec@...
 
Edited

Hello,
I would like to ask your help to enlighten me on certain points.
I am French of Polish origin and my grandfather who left recently left me without answers to certain questions.
My whole family arrived in France at the end of the 1930s to work on farms or in coal mines. They came from Chodziez and surroundings
which was in Greater Poland not far from Poznan under German domination.
For my part my grandfather Jerzy born in 1929 was Catholic but deep inside me and for several years I have always had a doubt about the origins of my family .

Let me explain :
I have always had a particular affinity with Jewish culture (music, history, books ...) and the rather strong intuition of having Jewish origins.
So, during confinement with the help of my brother, I researched my family, which revealed some surprises to me:
* the surnames that make up my tree (Koniec / Prusak / Filut / Drich) are listed on many Ashkenazi genealogy sites and present in significant numbers on the yad vashem site which lists the deported Jews of the 2nd World War. of my ancestors also have Hebrew origins (Joseph / Jacob / Matthias / Magdalena ..)
* The region of my family (Greater Poland) was a region with a large concentration of Jewish communities with the south of Poland and the cities and villages of origin of my ancestors included shtetl and synagogues.
* another argument may be invalid: some of my ancestors went to the United States in the 19th century like many Jews at the time.
These clues therefore troubled me especially since my ancestors or a good part of them were registered as catholic and some married in the church according to the site poznan project. Beyond 1800 and even before I do not find my trace in the registers of some which becomes complicated.

So my questions are:
* Does a name suffice to prove a Jewish ancestry?
* Have you ever heard of the names mentioned above?
* Were the Jews of Prussia registered under Catholic registers? Or did they abandon their religion before the 2nd war?
* or continue my research in early / mid 1850 since I am stagnating at this level?
How to find the trace of a possible Judaism in my ancestors?
I therefore appeal to you and I will be grateful if you could help me!
"Where shall I continue my research... ?
Thank you !!!                              <gkoniec@...>
             

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Bonjour,  
Je me permets de solliciter votre aide pour m’éclairer sur certains points. 
Je suis Français d’origine Polonaise et mon grand père qui est parti récemment m’a laissé sans 
réponses par rapport à certaines questions. 
Toute ma famille est arrivée à la fin des années 30 en France pour travailler dans des fermes ou mines de charbon .
Ils venaient de Chodziez et alentours qui se trouvait en Grande Pologne non loin de Poznan sous domination Allemande.
Pour ma part mon grand père Jerzy né en 1929 était catholique mais au fond de moi et depuis plusieurs années j’ai toujours eu un doute sur les origines de ma famille.. 
Je m’explique :
J’ai toujours eu une affinité particulière avec la culture juive ( musique, histoire, livres..)  et l' intuition plutôt forte d’avoir des origines juives. 
J’ai donc, pendant le confinement avec l’aide de mon frère fait des recherches sur ma famille ce qui m’a dévoilé quelques surprises :
*les noms de famille qui composent mon arbre (Koniec/Prusak/Filut/Drich) sont répertoriés sur de nombreux sites de généalogie ashkénaze et présents en nombre conséquent sur le site yad vashem qui repertorie les juifs déportés de la 2e guerre mondiale .Les prénoms de mes aïeux ont aussi d'origine hébraïque (Joseph/jacob/Matthias/Magdalena ..) 
*La région de ma famille (Grande Pologne)  était une région comptant une grande concentration de communautés juives avec le sud de la Pologne et les villes et villages de provenance de mes ancêtres comptait des shtetl et synagogues. 
*autre argument peut être invalide : une partie de mes ancêtres est partie aux États-Unis au 19eme siècle comme beaucoup de juifs à l’époque .
Ces indices m’ont donc troublé d’autant plus que mes ancêtres ou une bonne partie étaient enregistrés en tant que catholique et certains mariés à l’église d’après le site poznan project. Au delà de 1800 et même avant je ne trouve pas ma trace dans les registres des certains ce qui devient compliqué ..
Mes questions sont donc les suivantes :
*Un nom suffitfit il a prouver une ascendance juive ? 
*Avez-vous déjà eu connaissance des noms cités plus haut ? 
*Les juifs de Prusse étaient ils enregistrés sous des registres catholiques ? Ou ont-ils délaissé leur religion et cela avant la 2nde guerre ?
* ou poursuivre  mes recherches de début /milieu 1850 étant donné que je stagne à ce niveau ?
Comment trouver la trace d’un éventuel judaïsme chez mes aïeux ? 
Je fais donc appel à vous et je vous serai reconnaissant si vous pouviez m'aider ! 
Je n’exclue pas faire fausse route 🤔🤣mais mon intuition me dit de poursuivre mes recherches ! 
Merci !!!    <gkoniec@...>
 

Samuel FINKELSTEIN #general

Paul Silverstone
 

My grandfather’s uncle Chaim Finkelstein had two sons, Samuel and Samson.   Samuel Finkelstein married Minnie Liss and they had seven children, the last being Sadie, born in 1913 in Winnipeg.   It is my understanding that Samuel also had two children Zona and Lloyd, born 1912 and 1916 in Canada  with another wife.   I have not found birth records for Zona and Lloyd.
Minnie Liss and her unmarried children were living in Chicago, according to the 1930 census.
 
Samuel Finkelstein, now Stein, shows up in Seattle listed in the 1920 & 1930 censuses with his wife Sarah      and two children Zona and Lloyd.   
Ordinarily I would have dismissed the 1920/30 censuses as listing another Samuel Finkelstein.  However when my great-aunt Eva laid out the whole large family to me in the 1940s, I recall her specifically mentioning the second two children because of the unusual name Zona.   
His brother Samson added the initial R. before his given name to distinguish himself from his brother according to his naturalization papers.  There is no reason to believe that Samson was the father of the two children.
Was Sam Finkelstein/Stein  a bigamist?   Was Zona born out of wedlock?   But for Aunt Eva, an intelligent and educated woman, I would not find these events problematic.
 
   Paul Silverstone,    Vancouver, BC  <paulh2@...>

untranslatable word in Tykocin Memorial Book #translation

Selwyn
 

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The NYPL source book on Tykocin gives the following sentence in Hebrew on page 325 :
יעקה משה זלצמן - נולד בויסוקו ליטובסק במחוז בריסק. מפחד הגיוס נמלט לביאליסטוק. שם פגש את דויד טבל אלטשולר שהביאו  למיידן שלו שביער סמוך לטעקטין. כעבור שנתיים פתח בית מרזח בקפיץ שליד זבד.
The word outlined in red (mem-yod-yod-daled-nun) is problematic: It appears in Even-Shoshan NOT as a prime reference but as an alternative spelling to the single-yod version (with diacritics) and the added secondary definition as  "'me'yaden' an implement used in handling hazardous materials". Does anyone have any further information or knowledge on this word beyond what Even-Shoshan gives, because the context of the source text gives no clue?

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